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Y0ruba:
Uncle

1. Both your sources were written by Yoruba men. When do you intend to start posting articles written by those of Bini origins? Can’t find any? Would you take offense if non-diplomatic Yoruba attacked you by saying ‘Binis depend on Yoruba for everything including sources for their own history?’ Just kidding

2. If you took a deep breath and read the page you screenshot & and the text you posted, you would see that the towns Bini invaded before in Ekiti are to the south. Apart from those added during state creation, there are 16 kingdoms in Ekiti, Bini invaded about 6. If you look at present day Ondo state, there are several towns in between Bini & Ondo town, several towns between Bini & Akure town. All sources are quiet about Bini’s presence in the go-between towns. This can be interpreted to mean they were not conquered. Do you not think this would make Bini’s grip on Ondo town & Akure town difficult to sustain?

3. Both papers including the one from Prof. Akintoye agree that Bini’s invasion was not for conquest or empire building. It was rather to protect Bini’s long distance traders & consequently Bini’s economic interest as can be seen with Lagos when Bini traders were harrassed & soldiers were sent from Bini to protect them along the coast in Lagos. Bini was not expanding an empire, it was, like the present day USA protecting her economic interests & citizens by planting military bases on places of interest.

4. All articles used so far agreed that Bini’s activities were limited to south of Ekiti, Ondo town [not the entire Ondo state] & Akure town. All the articles also agreed that these towns revolted, murdered Bini traders & a war of re-invasion to quel revolt broke out.

5. All articles agreed that Bini lost control of the towns, attempted to take them back but failed. Prof Akitoye who used several sources mostly from Europeans [see footnotes in the document] stated that the introduction of guns into the interior changed the game & Bini army was defeated in southern Ekiti, Ondo town & Akure.

6. This goes to show that, like Ijebu controlled the trade on the coastal town of Lagos, Bini also controlled trade in the coast and as a result monopolized guns which the Bini army used to achieve her several invasions until her previous victims laid hands on guns too.

7. In essence Bini’s invasion was an unequal warfare. Bini brought guns to a bow, arrow, spear & machete fight. Nothing was special about Bini army. Kind of like how Bini used guns & canons against Bini kingdom when Bini ised basic war instruments during the punitive expedition. If Bini had guns & cannons too, it would have been different. Lagos had & used guns against Britain at a war that lasted for several days until a mishap occured in the Lagos camp with gunpowder catching on fire and ruining everything. In one word, Bini army fought a war against a disadvantaged group.

8. While we Yoruba agree that your Bini army invaded parts of Eastern Yorubaland. We Yoruba are stating that [based on facts posted by you & us] that your invasion was limited to 6 towns in south Ekiti, Ondo town & Akure town. We are also saying that you had guns to fight swords, bow, arrow & spear. We are also saying that when the Ondo, Ekiti & Akure people had guns they repelled you and crushed your army for life.

Aaahh!!!

davidnazee:
Oh so Akure, Ondo were not part of pre-colonial Ekiti land? You and all your brothers you mentioned should be ashamed of yourselves..
Anyways Benin Conquered all of Eastern Yoruba.. The fear of Benin was the beginning of wisdom of your ancestors, a fear which lingered on till you were set free by the British..
Please also get it into your blockhead that it was Benin soldiers that helped you guys in your fight against Ibadan..

Just accept defeat when you reach a dead-end in your argument. Anything else is witchcraft.

Y0ruba has demonstrated higher capacity for greatness and tactically seized this advantage from under you by admitting that history is there for all to see and we are not hiding anything. In fact Yoruba historians documented the victory for Bini....not Edo. This testifies to TRANSPERANCY and FORTHRIGHTNESS of Yorubas and earns us CREDIBILITY in the global community.

Furthermore, the same source and acknowledgement of Bini defeating 6 communities in Eastern Yorubaland also confirmed the defeat of Bini by these communities at a later period.

There are questions to ask.

1. Do you care about credibility, or do you, by default, argue on the faith of Edo witchcraft.

2. If Bini had attacked these 6 communities using sword, bow and arrow, lance and so on....do you believe Bini would have victory?

3. After these 6 communities acquired modern warfare gears they erased the Bini capacity and advantage.

It shows the Bini victory was not an act of superiority in warfare skills or tactics or bravery......but rather in use of more efficient tools.

Let me ask you another question relevant to our political situation today in Nigeria.

In Nigeria, is the fulani a superior military power?

If you say yes then you would need to explain why they call for military backup and rescue when overpowered by their victims.

Access to military backup in this case is a tool or resource acting to advamtage a fulani dominance......just as access to cannons and guns was to advantage of Bini over those 6 communities.

BabaRamota1980:
Aaahh!!!

Egbon mi, I salute.

steveosaz:
One can just imagine the garbage you would have stuffed up in that crappy publication of yours. Filled up with cooked up data just like those of many before you.

Lol you must think History is for all comers and that papers aren’t peer-reviewed by top scholars before they are published.

Your ignorance seeps through your every post, smh.

steveosaz:
Yoroooooobaaaaa, iro po lenu e. Haahaahha

I asked you a question earlier which you tactically dodged; what led to the demise of the Oyo empire?

Benin empire never had any business with Oyo. It's surviving 70yrs after Oyo is testament of its tenacity. Their exploits are indisputable.
Even if you drink gamalin 20, it wouldn't change anything.

- Oyo’s demise resulted from constitutional problems from within. Go & read, uncle.

- There were no exploits uncle. Fighting machetes with guns is no exploit abeg.

davidnazee:
We only fought 6 villages, we were kicked in the ass lol. Keep consoling yourself Yoruba man lol.
Anyways I won’t argue with u too much. U can read the screen shots below and count some of the few towns in Yoruba we conquered. It’s about 100 there, I still have many more but weep on this ones first.

e pain am well why not say 1000 Kiss the truth U only won against those 6 kingdoms and centuries later not only did they kick ur ass after they got modern warfare they came to the heart of ur own kingdom conquer ur town and u had to beg instead like a coward instead of fight smh.

Y0ruba:
- Oyo’s demise resulted from constitutional problems from within. Go & read, uncle.

- There were no exploits uncle. Fighting machetes with guns is no exploit abeg.

by the 18c the 1700 Benin was already weak and when they try to rise up again and attack the kingdom like owo in the 19c they were easily beaten but u will see davidnaze saying Benin conquered all Yoruba land even Ibadan even though Ibadan was only born during the down spiral of oyo. They have a hard time accepting they only won against the 6 community and the people came for revenge and kick their ass and took their land according to the document anyway

Y0ruba:
I’m weak

Fam, you is one ‘helluva’ dumbfxxk.

Ekitiparapo was Ijesa, Ife, Ijebu, Imesi. They ganged to fight Ibadan for balance of power. This event happened looooooong after the 6 towns Bini invaded had crushed your army.

So in your olodo mind Bini invaded Ekitiparapo?

Olu317, BabaRamota, Obalufon eyin egbon mi, come & see blockheadedness in full gear. I can’t stopcracking up.

https://www.reactiongifs.com/r/mtbu.gif

davidnaze na iredemable dumbass coz according to him Benin conquered ondo ekiti osun ogun lagos and even Ibadan can u believe that lol if u take davidnaze serious u are wasting ur time coz whenever he is saying his rubbish I just reply him accordingly. This same guy said Benin were fighting in ekiti parapo against Ibadan is the same guy saying they invaded ekiti parapo again see logic.

davidnazee:
Revolted and crushed Benin hahahaha.. You are really delusional.. well I guess its the fake pride in you that's speaking lol..
Your documents says guns were massively used and yet you lost.. Your deji executed, your princes turned slaves in Benin court..
History is not favorable to you, deal with it..

e enter davidnaze well when those kingdom got gun of their own they pepper Benin well came to ur kingdom and took ur land that’s favorable history to me. They had the last laugh chai

Chai this thread sweet wella

BabaRamota1980:
Just accept defeat when you reach a dead-end in your argument. Anything else is witchcraft.

Y0ruba has demonstrated higher capacity for greatness and tactically seized this advantage from under you by admitting that history is there for all to see and we are not hiding anything. In fact Yoruba historians documented the victory for Bini....not Edo. This testifies to TRANSPERANCY and FORTHRIGHTNESS of Yorubas and earns us CREDIBILITY in the global community.

Furthermore, the same source and acknowledgement of Bini defeating 6 communities in Eastern Yorubaland also confirmed the defeat of Bini by these communities at a later period.

There are questions to ask.

1. Do you care about credibility, or do you, by default, argue on the faith of Edo witchcraft.

2. If Bini had attacked these 6 communities using sword, bow and arrow, lance and so on....do you believe Bini would have victory?

3. After these 6 communities acquired modern warfare gears they erased the Bini capacity and advantage.

It shows the Bini victory was not an act of superiority in warfare skills or tactics or bravery......but rather in use of more efficient tools.

Let me ask you another question relevant to our political situation today in Nigeria.

In Nigeria, is the fulani a superior military power?

If you say yes then you would need to explain why they call for military backup and rescue when overpowered by their victims.

Access to military backup in this case is a tool or resource acting to advamtage a fulani dominance......just as access to cannons and guns was to advantage of Bini over those 6 communities.

my oga I hail ooo nice analysis

davidnazee:
Revolted and crushed Benin hahahaha.. You are really delusional.. well I guess its the fake pride in you that's speaking lol..
Your documents says guns were massively used and yet you lost.. Your deji executed, your princes turned slaves in Benin court..
History is not favorable to you, deal with it..

Akure, Ondo, Owo & Ekiti were all it took to silence Bini forever.

If you’re in doubt, here you go:

Throughout the eighteenth century, Benin's power suffered a decline, marked
only occasionally by short periods of recovery.2 Even in places like Qwo and
Akure, this led to a long spell of independence from Benin and comparative
freedom from Benin invasions. Moreover, guns and gunpowder had gradually
entered into the trade, with the result that many people became familiar with
their use.[/b]3 The consequent [b]defiance of Benin led to acts of violence against
Benin agents and settlers in many places. At Akure, a chief (Chief Osagwe)
sent to chastise the people for installing a Deji without first seeking the sanction
of the Qba of Benin, was murdered - according to Talbot, in 1815.4 About the
same time, [b]an assault on a Benin trader named Ogonto in the Akure market led
to violent disturbances in which a number of Edos were killed. At Igbara-Odo,
an incident similar to the latter occurred, leading to the murder of many Çdos
and the burning of their belongings.
These incidents led to the Benin invasions of the early nineteenth century in
which guns were massively used. Owo easily repulsed a Benin army. At Akure,
the Deji was captured and beheaded and his son Osupa taken in captivity to
Benin.5 From Akure, Benin forces fanned out into Ekiti. In most places, they
met stout resistance. At Qtun, the Benin warrior chief, finding the Qtun forces
too strong, gave up fighting them and joined them in a local war.6 Neighbouring
Ewu was however not so lucky. All the great leaders of these invasions - the
Ologbosere, Ezomo and Imaran - died in the campaigns, and many of their
followers settled in Ekiti.
These proved to be the last Benin invasions of the north-eastern Yoruba
country[/b]

Moreover, though until quite late in the nineteenth century we still
occasionally hear of Benin messengers sent to remind Akure of its duties to
Benin,7 the early nineteenth century invasions were followed by disappearance
of Benin's political influence. From the middle forties, Ibadan gradually con-
quered and reduced to tributaries almost all Ekiti and Akoko without encoun-
tering Benin resistance anywhere - although individual Benin settlers like Asa
of Itaogbolu featured in Akure armies until the Ekitiparapo war, 1878 In fact, the measure of Benin's weakness ,can be seen in the fact that about
1876-7, a group of Ekiti and Ijesha warriors (comprising Ogedengbe of Ilesha,
Aduloju and Falowo of Ado) conquered the towns and villages of the Afenmai
area of the Benin kingdom and penetrated as far into the heart of the Benin
kingdom as Iruekpen near Eho.

steveosaz:
If in this time and era, you can still come here and shamelessly denounce the very mighty Google, then guy, you don't belong in this generation.
Every sensible person in this era knows that google gives you ease of access to information thitherto obscure and difficult to find.

It is this same Google that has helped in exposing what an inept and incompetent, slave worshiping people the yorubas are.

Oh wow, did you go to school at all? I mean you conducted all researches (assignments, term papers & long essays) by yourself?

No wonder Naija academia has gone to the dogs. Google, really?

You actually believe solid data is on google? I smh.

Moneywomen17:
davidnaze na iredemable dumbass coz according to him Benin conquered ondo ekiti osun ogun lagos and even Ibadan can u believe that lol if u take davidnaze serious u are wasting ur time coz whenever he is saying his rubbish I just reply him accordingly. This same guy said Benin were fighting in ekiti parapo against Ibadan is the same guy saying they invaded ekiti parapo again see logic.

Olu ibini needs to line him & his co travellers up & pump hot leads in them. He is making Bini look bad. Poor comprehension skills & poor analytical abilities. If he had focused on Bini’s economic-military activities, it would not have been ao bad.

Interestingly, I stumbled on a research by Prof. Ekpo Eyo who excavated a burial site from where burial stuff related to the remains of Bini kings brought to Ife. I want them to beh so i can throw that out there.

Y0ruba:
Olu ibini needs to line him & his co travellers up & pump hot leads in them. He is making Bini look bad. Poor comprehension skills & poor analytical abilities. If he had focused on Bini’s economic-military activities, it would not have been ao bad.

Interestingly, I stumbled on a research by Prof. Ekpo Eyo who excavated a burial site from where burial stuff related to the remains of Bini kings brought to Ife. I want them to beh so i can throw that out there.

lol they are also pained on this thread one of them is even threatening olu that he will deal with him cuz of this thread can u imagine that.

BabaRamota1980:
Just accept defeat when you reach a dead-end in your argument. Anything else is witchcraft.

Y0ruba has demonstrated higher capacity for greatness and tactically seized this advantage from under you by admitting that history is there for all to see and we are not hiding anything. In fact Yoruba historians documented the victory for Bini....not Edo. This testifies to TRANSPERANCY and FORTHRIGHTNESS of Yorubas and earns us CREDIBILITY in the global community.

Furthermore, the same source and acknowledgement of Bini defeating 6 communities in Eastern Yorubaland also confirmed the defeat of Bini by these communities at a later period.

There are questions to ask.

1. Do you care about credibility, or do you, by default, argue on the faith of Edo witchcraft.

2. If Bini had attacked these 6 communities using sword, bow and arrow, lance and so on....do you believe Bini would have victory?

3. After these 6 communities acquired modern warfare gears they erased the Bini capacity and advantage.

It shows the Bini victory was not an act of superiority in warfare skills or tactics or bravery......but rather in use of more efficient tools.

Let me ask you another question relevant to our political situation today in Nigeria.

In Nigeria, is the fulani a superior military power?

If you say yes then you would need to explain why they call for military backup and rescue when overpowered by their victims.

Access to military backup in this case is a tool or resource acting to advamtage a fulani dominance......just as access to cannons and guns was to advantage of Bini over those 6 communities.

Baba, nice analysis.

Rounding up lectures, administering & grading tests, preparing exam questions, writing papers & my thesis had my participation here limited last week. I saw their post about going the length with us Yoruba on this thread & I knew in my mind when my students begin writing exams them go hear am & today na the day.

We have not been only to dislodge their BS. We have also been able to put their ‘illiteracy’ on full display. Dem nor sabi anything & they are not well read at all.

BabaRamota1980:
Just accept defeat when you reach a dead-end in your argument. Anything else is witchcraft.

Y0ruba has demonstrated higher capacity for greatness and tactically seized this advantage from under you by admitting that history is there for all to see and we are not hiding anything. In fact Yoruba historians documented the victory for Bini....not Edo. This testifies to TRANSPERANCY and FORTHRIGHTNESS of Yorubas and earns us CREDIBILITY in the global community.

Furthermore, the same source and acknowledgement of Bini defeating 6 communities in Eastern Yorubaland also confirmed the defeat of Bini by these communities at a later period.

There are questions to ask.

1. Do you care about credibility, or do you, by default, argue on the faith of Edo witchcraft.

2. If Bini had attacked these 6 communities using sword, bow and arrow, lance and so on....do you believe Bini would have victory?

3. After these 6 communities acquired modern warfare gears they erased the Bini capacity and advantage.

It shows the Bini victory was not an act of superiority in warfare skills or tactics or bravery......but rather in use of more efficient tools.

Let me ask you another question relevant to our political situation today in Nigeria.

In Nigeria, is the fulani a superior military power?

If you say yes then you would need to explain why they call for military backup and rescue when overpowered by their victims.

Access to military backup in this case is a tool or resource acting to advamtage a fulani dominance......just as access to cannons and guns was to advantage of Bini over those 6 communities.

Isn't it an irony that you are asking someone to accept defeat when by this very write up of yours, you have already capitulated. Within the context of today's world, the superpowers are enjoying that status for no other reason than the very fact that they have superior weaponry.

Remember, times and seasons change, while Benin was kicking Yoruba ass over those many centuries, when Yoruba also had access to guns(according to your pedestrian scholars), why couldn't they establish occupation in Benin.

Benin occupied several Yoruba towns and established suzerainty over them in certain instances. Meanwhile, at no time in history has Yoruba ever replicated same in Edo land.

Yorubas for several centuries were trade stock for the slave market, many ended up in ships bound for Europe and America to go work on cotton plantations. Meanwhile, Edos were never sold as slaves. In fact, its on record that being that the Edos abhorred the idea of selling humans, they were known to have freed so many slaves(yorubas inclusive) who had been captured and waiting to be ferried off to the western world.

Edos a were your Lords and benefactors. Bow to your kings!!!

Y0ruba:
Lol you must think History is for all comers and that papers aren’t peer-reviewed by top scholars before they are published.

Your ignorance seeps through your every post, smh.

I can assure you that I am far more familiar with the academia than you ever could and I know how articles and papers get published and accepted in journals OK.

You know you yorubas and tribalism, its like bread and butter.

It is through the 'omo wa ni, e je o she' door many of you get your garbages accepted into crappy journals.

So you are just another Yoruba quack, at least, that has been fully displayed here; very typical of charlatans.

steveosaz:
Isn't it an irony that you are asking someone to accept defeat when by this very write up of yours, you have already capitulated. Within the context of today's world, the superpowers are enjoying that status for no other reason than the very fact that they have superior weaponry.

Remember, times and seasons change, while Benin was kicking Yoruba ass over those many centuries, when Yoruba also had access to guns(according to your pedestrian scholars), why couldn't they establish occupation in Benin.

Benin occupied several Yoruba towns and established suzerainty over them in certain instances. Meanwhile, at no time in history has Yoruba ever replicated same in Edo land.

Yorubas for several centuries were trade stock for the slave market, many ended up in ships bound for Europe and America to go work on cotton plantations. Meanwhile, Edos were never sold as slaves. In fact, its on record that being that the Edos abhorred the idea of selling humans, they were known to have freed so many slaves(yorubas inclusive) who had been captured and waiting to be ferried off to the western world.

Edos a were your Lords and benefactors. Bow to your kings!!!

You are daft.

- Your king enjoyed the brotherhood Yoruba kings extended to it. And I wont lie, Bini’s invasion of eastern Yorubaland was also because she your Oba wanted to keep that route open for Ife to acquire weapons during her wars from the Isoya-Ondo-Bini trade route.

- Why did your king beg Ogedengbe, a radical who conquered Edo territories into Bini hearland?

What Bini enjoyed was the recognition Yoruba had for him as a fellow Yoruba man in a strange land. The same recognition reflected in the Kings’ sitting arrangement & so on. Till today 90% Yoruba still think Bini king is a Yoruba man in a strange land & because he is a Yoruba man, Yoruba owns Bini land. A mentality I’ve had to take pains to enlighten people about informing them that your king hates us & I presented the book he wrote & comments of people like you.

Y0ruba:
Akure, Ondo, Owo & Ekiti were all it took to silence Bini forever.

If you’re in doubt, here you go:

Only slaves celebrate the decline of their masters.. and because you yorubas arguing are dumb you fail to realize that all great empires decline at a point, the decline is defined as loosing its vassal states.. but the great empire itself stays strong and alive..
but the weak/pretender empires die a woeful and painful death like Oyo, dead and decayed with no trace of its existence..

Worse still for you Yorubas is that this argument have been in Yoruba lands ( we saying we conquered and ruled all of Yoruba and you saying we did not) and it will always remain in Yoruba lands.. we are rooted deep in your history you cannot remove us.
When you type Yoruba you must see great Benin conquered and ruled you. It’s there forever and forever you will continue to argue and lie that we did not. It’s a cross u will carry on, so deal with..

steveosaz:
I can assure you that I am far more familiar with the academia than you ever could and I know how articles and papers get published and accepted in journals OK.

You know you yorubas and tribalism, its like bread and butter.

It is through the 'omo wa ni, e je o she' door many of you get your garbages accepted into crappy journals.

So you are just another Yoruba quack, at least, that has been fully displayed here; very typical of charlatans.

Good.

Now tell us what school you lecture & papers you’ve published.

From there we can then take you serious.

davidnazee:
Only slaves celebrate the decline of their masters.. and because you yorubas arguing are dumb you fail to realize that all great empires decline at a point, the decline is defined as loosing its vassal states.. but the great empire itself stays strong and alive..
but the weak/pretender empires die a woeful and painful death like Oyo, dead and decayed with no trace of its existence..

Worse still for you Yorubas is that this argument have been in Yoruba lands ( we saying we conquered and ruled all of Yoruba and you saying we did not) and it will always remain in Yoruba lands.. we are rooted deep in your history you cannot remove us.
When you type Yoruba you must see great Benin conquered and ruled you. It’s there forever and forever you will continue to argue and lie that we did not. It’s a cross u will carry on, so deal with..

This man is either totally unintelligent or trolling.

Y0ruba:
Oh wow, did you go to school at all? I mean you conducted all researches (assignments, term papers & long essays) by yourself?

No wonder Naija academia has gone to the dogs. Google, really?

You actually believe solid data is on google? I smh.

When I called you an incompetent, ineffectual jackass, you shouldn't have responded. Now you further expose yourself.

You failed to realize that google holds very little information itself, but is a link up to so many other resources.

Ogbeni, expand your knowledge base and stop cooking history in your hut.

Hello, this is the 21st century, we now use laptops. Lol...

Y0ruba:
You are daft.

- Your king enjoyed the brotherhood Yoruba kings extended to it. And I wont lie, Bini’s invasion of eastern Yorubaland was also because she your Oba wanted to keep that route open for Ife to acquire weapons during her wars from the Isoya-Ondo-Bini trade route.

- Why did your king beg Ogedengbe, a radical who conquered Edo territories into Bini hearland?

What Bini enjoyed was the recognition Yoruba had for him as a fellow Yoruba man in a strange land. The same recognition reflected in the Kings’ sitting arrangement & so on. Till today 90% Yoruba still think Bini king is a Yoruba man in a strange land & because he is a Yoruba man, Yoruba owns Bini land. A mentality I’ve had to take pains to enlighten people about informing them that your king hates us & I presented the book he wrote & comments of people like you.

Jeez, did you actually write that down?

You should be a native doctor than messing up the hallowed halls of education in this country.
With every sense of modesty, I say you are an embarrassment.

What you are doing is not education, you are only brainwashing your people who are pitiably ignorant.
It's your type of people who believed many years ago that the world was flat and went to great lengths spreading that falsehood through useless publications that have no source currency.

As Moorish rightly stated, these arguments need to be subjected to modern fact finding techniques. Have you carbon dated any of those trashy artifacts you claim someone found?

Mr man, the Edos care less of what the Yoruba think. The yorubas are already inundated and overwhelmed by the sheer pillaging of Thiers chequered history by distortionists and dubious revisionists like yourself.

Gather a forum of Yoruba history pundits and you'll hear a thousand and one versions of the same stories.
Even here on NL, many of you quacky scoundrels have danced naked in the public several times. How could you of all people now want to give perspective on your superiors?

The white man says, charity begins at home.

See people who want to write Edo history, yet their obas are in a dirty was over supremacy and doctored history. Interestingly however, not only the Alaafin is telling the ooni that he is a slave and a nobody, the Olugbo of Ugbo kingdom in Ondo state Akinruntan Obateru is also calling the ooni a stranger and asking him to clearly identity his roots cause he is a usurper.

Here is a report on the matter from the punch newspaper.

FEMI MAKINDE

There is an ongoing battle of supremacy between the Ooni of Ife, Oba Adeyeye Ogunwusi, and Olugbo of Ugbo, Oba Obateru Akinruntan, over which throne is the monarchical seat of power in Yorubaland and the origin of Oduduwa, the so-called progenitor of Yoruba people.

Oba Akinruntan also attacked the Ooni of Ife for describing Moremi Ajasoro as a heroine.

The Ugbo monarch disagreed with the Ooni, who described Moremi as a goddess and recently built a 42-foot statue in her honour.

To the Ondo monarch, Moremi was a traitor who betrayed her husband, Osangangan Obamakin.

But in a swift reaction, the Ife monarch said Olugbo did not have deep knowledge of Yoruba history.

The Olugbo, in a statement issued by the Olugbo-in-Council, said, “We, the Olugbo–in–Council, found such (Ooni’s remarks about Moremi) unguarded statements and historical fallacy disturbing, particularly when such emanated from a monarch who is expected to be a custodian of history, customs and traditions of Yorubaland. We hereby state categorically that we are Ugbos, the aboriginal settlers and owners of Ile-Ife.

“Our forefathers descended from heaven, that is why we are called ‘Ugbo Atorunwo.’ We are not Ibos (Igbos), who are from the South-East, and who have their own clearly researched and defined ancestry. To set the record straight, Moremi remains a traitor. She was a slave captured by Ugbo warriors during one of their many raids on Ile-Ife. She later became the wife of Osangangan Obamakin, the son of Oranfe, of who was the paramount ruler of over 13 aboriginal communities of ancient Ugbomokun, which later came to be called Ile Ife.”

The statement said further, “Oduduwa came to Ugbomokun as a stranger and was welcomed in Ilero, the aboriginal palace of Osangangan Obamakin, which is still in existence in present-day Iremo, in Ile Ife. During the dynastic struggles, Osangangan Obamakin was directed by the oracles (Ifa and Osanyin) to leave Ile Ife. Moremi betrayed her husband’s trust when she exposed the secret of the Ugbo warriors’ gallantry.”

“Popular history states that Oduduwa, the progenitor of the Ooni, migrated from the East/Mecca. In another account by the Oba of Benin, recently, Oduduwa came from Benin. We ask that the Ooni should confirm his ancestral roots. It is also of importance to note that in the ancient custom of Yoruba, an incumbent king must have no living father. Also, no man from a female lineage of a ruling house is qualified to sit on the throne.”

But Oba Ogunwusi, who spoke through the Director of Public Affairs of the Ooni’s Palace, Moses Olafare, said the Ooni would not dignify the Olugbo with an answer because he was more focused on achieving unity among all Yoruba people and would not allow himself to be distracted.

The Ooni insisted that Moremi was a heroine, who deserved accolade because of the role she played in the liberation of Ife people from some “faceless terrorists.”

He said, “This outburst of Olugbo can only be viewed by well-meaning people as a pitiable act of absurdity that doesn’t deserve serious attention by serious people. How on earth could a Yoruba king refer to Moremi as a traitor because she used her power as a woman to liberate her people from incessant invasions by some faceless terrorists?

“Most paramount on the mind of His Imperial Majesty, Ooni Adeyeye Ogunwusi Ojaja II, with the unflinching support of the Alaafin, baba; the Awujale; the Alake; the Orangun; the Deji; the Ewi; the Osemawe; the Olubadan; the Oba of Lagos; and other relevant peace-loving monarchs in Yorubaland and in other parts of the country is and remains the much-needed progress of Yoruba nation which can only be achieved through peace and unity.

“It is a pity that at this time when everybody is tired of retrogressive royal discord, the Olugbo, who claims to be the Chairman of Yoruba Obas Committee on Peace and Reconciliation, has suddenly without a deep knowledge of Yoruba history, woken up to see royal controversy as the only tool for cheap publicity.”

http://punchng.com/ooni-olugbo-supremacy-battle/

steveosaz:
When I called you an incompetent, ineffectual jackass, you shouldn't have responded. Now you further expose yourself.

You failed to realize that google holds very little information itself, but is a link up to so many other resources.

Ogbeni, expand your knowledge base and stop cooking history in your hut.

Hello, this is the 21st century, we now use laptops. Lol...

No published scholar who presents lectures stands in the front of the audience & says they use google. People buy books even off google.

You are stupid, QED.

steveosaz:
Jeez, did you actually write that down?

You should be a native doctor than messing up the hallowed halls of education in this country.
With every sense of modesty, I say you are an embarrassment.

What you are doing is not education, you are only brainwashing your people who are pitiably ignorant.
It's your type of people who believed many years ago that the world was flat and went to great lengths spreading that falsehood through useless publications that have no source currency.

As Moorish rightly stated, these arguments need to be subjected to modern fact finding techniques. Have you carbon dated any of those trashy artifacts you claim someone found?

Mr man, the Edos care less of what the Yoruba think. The yorubas are already inundated and overwhelmed by the sheer pillaging of Thiers chequered history by distortionists and dubious revisionists like yourself.

Gather a forum of Yoruba history pundits and you'll hear a thousand and one versions of the same stories.
Even here on NL, many of you quacky scoundrels have danced naked in the public several times. How could you of all people now want to give perspective on your superiors?

The white man says, charity begins at home.

With every post, you break the bounds of stupidity.

Are you aware Yoruba history is based on Historical & Archeological evidences? And these two fields affirmed Yoruba superseded Bini by far & built Bini?

Not to waste time, revisit your Bini history citing 10 Bini scholars without using any Yoruba researcher. I’ll wait.

My peoples, Bini is the only place where researchers are threatened & forced to bring their research to the palace first before it can be published. They did this to caucasian researchers, Yoruba researchers & even their own sor J. Egarevbha.

Bini palace is scared of something & tries to give every research a pre-determined direction. Research should develop & take a course based on evidences available but for Bini palace na lie, they gats force you to design your work a certain way.

Most researchers include this caveat in their work. Heck, their own son Egarevbha included it too.

Y0ruba:
No published scholar who presents lectures stands in the front of the audience & says they use google. People buy books even off google.

You are stupid, QED.

Shifting the goal post from your outright dismissal of google to "people buy books even off google".

You are one dumb jackass!

People don't only buy books on (not off) google, people also get valuable links to download books for free(through google) dummy. That's why computer-internet libraries are provided in most universities of this era to facilitate research.

You really should be mixing herbs.

If dem born una useless mama well una for quote my moniker correctly so I for get notification !! Fucking Yoruba cowards!.... Bastards of a thousand fathers!!

Come Osas stop going back and forth with this bastardzz , they are beneath us and will always be

Y0ruba:
With every post, you break the bounds of stupidity.

Are you aware Yoruba history is based on Historical & Archeological evidences? And these two fields affirmed Yoruba superseded Bini by far & built Bini?

Not to waste time, revisit your Bini history citing 10 Bini scholars without using any Yoruba researcher. I’ll wait.

First of all, there is technically nothing like Yoruba history as its all cock and bull stories of incongruous things being cooked in one pot with several cooks sticking their spoons in all at the same time.
Subject your findings to recent scientific tests and see them fall like a pack of cards. Prick!