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| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by AxxeMan: 10:29pm On Jun 06, 2018 |
Buch of confused animals with no history!! History me get K-leg ;Shameless slaves |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by steveosaz(m): 10:41pm On Jun 06, 2018 |
Y0ruba:Yorubas are historical pillagers, so it wouldn't be out of place to regulate their access to palace information. You people are known to work from the answer to the question - that's your stock in trade. Meanwhile, tell us why the Olugbo of Ugbo is puncturing the falsehood and the blatant lie telling of the ooni. Also tell us why the Alaafin and the Olugbo are both saying the ooni is a deceptive impersonator and stranger. Even the Olugbo also quoted the Benin palace when they said Oduduwa was their lost prince. Till tomorrow, there are millions of yorubas who would defend with their last blood the claim that Oduduwa came from Mecca via Egypt (this is simply to dodge another narrative that Oduduwa migrated to Ife from eastwards which ordinarily tallies with the Edo story). There are yet still, millions of yorubas out there who say that Oduduwa came from heaven. So at what point did you people revise all these and come up with the comical versions people like you now hide under the mango tree writing? Dude, Yoruba history is a cow with multiple horns - no direction. It wouldn't even make a good storyline for children's cartoon. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by steveosaz(m): 10:42pm On Jun 06, 2018 |
AxxeMan:Slaves indeed. People who allow slaves to become kings(ooni) would forever be slavish in thought. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by AxxeMan: 10:50pm On Jun 06, 2018 |
steveosaz:Of course !..... Bunch of docile dogs I tell you |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by steveosaz(m): 10:56pm On Jun 06, 2018*. Modified: 4:12am On Jun 07, 2018 |
Y0ruba:This was also how either you or one of your ever lying Yoruba compatriots earlier on Here claimed no Yoruba town ever attacked ife due to its spiritual significance amongst the yorubas(even though there wasn't any such thing as Yoruba at the time), but the story of moremi clearly contradicts that as alluded to by the Olugbo. Yoruba has no history, it's all hogwash, pure lies and fabrications. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 11:16pm On Jun 06, 2018 |
Y0ruba:So my true talk pain u eh? very good.. I’m all about reminding you of the pain and suppression Benin Kingdom brought on your people.. You claim Benin only conquered 6 kingdoms and your mumu brother babaramota is jumping and celebrating.. so why don’t you tell us how big each of those conquered 6 kingdoms were? Since every post u have made has been an embarrassment for the Yoruba race I guess your answer will be another embarrassment.. Tell us the size of those 6 kingdoms.. is it just one town that made up each kingdom or several towns and villages in each? I Dey wait your answer and while u finding out the size pleaseee tell me which part of Yoruba you are from so I can give u a detailed account of how Benin burnt all the houses in your place and took ur people into exile.. I Dey wait. Babaramota has been making a fool of himself like the mugu he is but you have been embarrassing the entire Yoruba by playing to our advantage.. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by BabaRamota1980: 12:04am On Jun 07, 2018 |
AxxeMan:Errand boy fronting as cultists. ![]() |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by BabaRamota1980: 12:15am On Jun 07, 2018 |
davidnazee:Ekaladheran, let's assume the 6 communities were towns. These towns got their own guns and marched on Benin, a Kingdom, one-on-one and demolished you. The keyword is MARCHED and the hook is ONE-on-ONE! They came for you, bullet for bullet, sword for sword, arrow for arrow....and beat you to a surrender. Lessons learnt.... ...history has no record of you ever invading or attacking. them again. You learnt not to mess with Yoruba. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by BabaRamota1980: 12:21am On Jun 07, 2018 |
steveosaz:Ekaladheran, respond to what he said in that quote you posted and stop beating about the bush. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by AxxeMan: 12:36am On Jun 07, 2018 |
BabaRamota1980:Thunder fire your Asha.WO mama , yorobberr bastard |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by BabaRamota1980: 12:40am On Jun 07, 2018 |
steveosaz:You have a modus operandi when overpowered....you begin to pacify your opponent. Britain was not the first power to loot your palace. Are you aware? Recall a ritual face mask worn only by the Oba was seized from your palace by Igala warriors. Till today the mask is in their posession. Where was your Oba when Igala entered and took his mask during war? Was he hidden away or something ![]() In the second war, while Igala warriors were camped just outside your city. Oba sent fresh young Edo pussies into the camp to entertain his enemy, hoping the action will pacify them to turn around and head back to Idah. After chopping pussy Igala warriors headed into Benin....Oba sent a Save Our Soul dispatch for Portuguese help. 1966, Biafra, are you aware that... Noo, let me leave Biafra beside for now, its use will come later. ![]() If we didnt occupy its because you likely sent a pacifier to calm us down. Beside....you are already under Yoruba occupation when Oranmiyan became your king. That was also "accompanied" by an act of pacification using ekaladheran as a hoax to settle the foreigner on Edoland with no problem. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 12:53am On Jun 07, 2018 |
BabaRamota1980:Marched on Benin lol. Between 1830 and 1897 Benin executed your Deji, killed your Oluyins, mudered ur Baales, hanged many Obas, beheaded your Ewis, imprisoned your crown princes and took thousands of your people into captivity.. and u are here celebrating like a slowpoke.. your weak uprisings was suppressed easily.. una no reach. Continue thanking the British they are your liberators.. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 12:57am On Jun 07, 2018 |
BabaRamota1980:And the Igalas till today cannot forget what the Edos did to them.. Benin conquered and ruled your race.. go ask the igbos and Fulanis they will tell u it’s true.. If u like shout oo, deny it ooo but you can’t change what happened to ur people.. we shaped ur destiny |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by steveosaz(m): 4:32am On Jun 07, 2018 |
Here's one foolish off road comment... Y0ruba: Highlighted in black is the brainwashing these voodoo historians do on an already traumatized people from the constant pillaging, vandalization and cannibalization of Thiers history by these quacks. steveosaz:Below is the comment of the dumbest ndi offemmanu(red soup eaters according to Igbo) on this platform... BabaRamota1980:This ewedu soup eating ndi offemmanu failed to see the response to his brothers delusion. Meanwhile, tell us why you people initially lied here that Ife never came under attack from any (Yoruba) town because of its spiritual significance when the moremi story clearly contradicts/counters that's falsehood and records Ugbo constantly r invading and raping Ife? Oloshi grade one |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by steveosaz(m): 4:44am On Jun 07, 2018 |
BabaRamota1980:You are another offemmanu herb mixer cooking and conjuring history. Conjectures, conjectures, conjectures. That's all you ever do. Might have been, ought to be, most like been... These are how you come about your insanely delusional ideas. Stop embarrassing yo-ROBBERs here ejoo. You made it impossible anyone to respond to this your post because it was devoid of any rationality and filled with if's and maybe. Please go and play elsewhere. You are a joke. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by steveosaz(m): 4:55am On Jun 07, 2018 |
BabaRamota1980:Guy, if you are using a smart phone to type all these crap, Google dictionary is just one click away. Stop shaming yo-ROBBER people now haba! So at your age, you don't know the meaning of 'marched on'? No Yorubastard tribe could have ever marched on the great Benin, not possible, never recorded in history. Yoruba has effectively suffered colonization twice at least on official records. The Edos first colonized Yoruba which lasted several centuries while at the same time, maintaining diplomatic and trade relations with the whites(Portuguese). And with Portuguese guns, Bini established its dominion and chokehold on Yoruba people. The evidence of this colonization is clearly seen in the cultures, customs and dressing patterns of the people of Owo who share striking similarities with their Edo lords and masters. Second colonization of Yoruba came from the British. You already know that story. We were suzerains over you and your territory for ages. Bow to your kings!!! |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Nobody: 6:30am On Jun 07, 2018 |
steveosaz:And you think core research lies in weblinks & freebooks? Oh you think archival documents lie in free weblinks? You have a poverty of the mind & poverty of the pocket. Book you nor fit expend money ontop, smh. No wonder you are dumb & can’t provide citations to Bini researchers. Engaging you is hurtful to my level of intellect, you have added zilch to this discourse. You only want to argue blindly. I don’t do that. I deal with referenced points. If you are bot going to & cannot do this providing Bini authors, then you can fly away. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Nobody: 6:34am On Jun 07, 2018 |
steveosaz:If there’s nothing like Yoruba history then there’s nothing like Bini history. Your inability to buy & read books is why you have made this careless statement. Caucasians of different ethnicities have dedicated their entires lives to testing & studying Yoruba history. Yet a dimeit like you with a cheap axx brick phone is talking glib. Smh. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Nobody: 6:39am On Jun 07, 2018 |
steveosaz:Every town claim to have come from Ife & their kings were sons of Odudywa. As a result they tend to invent narratives to suit & embellish their perspective. Have you read Ife’s history of Ife? Why bother about what Olugbo said, Alaafin & so on when Ife has its own history and the families involved. I’m not going to waste my time here. Several posters have told you the backgrounds to the different narraives & given you proper stuff. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Nobody: 6:41am On Jun 07, 2018 |
steveosaz:Well, tell us what town attached Ife in recent times. I’ll wait. And also include citations to back this up. Thank you. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Nobody: 6:45am On Jun 07, 2018 |
davidnazee:You’re a fxxxking Arrow. Look at the Map of Naija. Present day Ekiti state is made up of the 16 kingdoms & their dependencies. Point out Ekiti state. Look at how small the entire state is. Then look at the towns in the southern part of the state. Yes, the southern area Bini invaded was very tiny. You’re welcome. And since you asked, I am from Ife. I await your story about how Bini burnt it down. And while at it include references. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Nobody: 6:59am On Jun 07, 2018 |
steveosaz:This exactly is the type of stupidity your Oba displayed wheb he wrote that book. Both of you share a similarity of looking at Ife history from the outside. Sorry to burst your bubble, it works differently. As for what you emboldened in my previous post. Your king’s progenitor was a Yoruba man, hence, he is Yoruba. Also, Kings own the lands & the people in it. It is not a problem if Yoruba folks think Oba Bini is Yoruba & consequently, Bini [not edo] & the people is Yoruba. Please tell us what Yoruba town attacked Ife ever, use a source please. And your lack of ability to read is why you do not know Ife is made up of Ugbo, including Oduduwa. And only one section of Ugbo wanted rotation of crown between the 13 Ugbo communities to continue as opposed to having a paramount king. This group were from Iwinrin quarters. They didn’t even come to attack Ife, they periodically came to worship some deities at intervals from Igbo forest [still in Ife]. It was the costume they wore to hide their identity which caused chaos in Ife who attacked, captured them & revealed their identities. They were taken back t their quarters and other Ugbos appeased them to come back home. Most moved back & the remnant are those who left the Igbo forest & moved on to where they are now. See: The ancient constitution of Ife Ooyelagbo by Fasogbon, M. O 50 Years in the History of Ile Ife by Oba Adesoji Aderemi by Omotoso Eluyemi Art and Risk in Ancient Yoruba: Ife History, Power, and Identity, C. 1300 by Susan P Blier. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by steveosaz(m): 8:33am On Jun 07, 2018 |
Y0ruba:You have again shifted you line a little forward to include core research not in web links and free books. Indeed, your level of intellect is pitiably nose facing the gutters. You are exactly the type of beans scholars whose quackery make white people believe that blacks are incapable of doing proper academic work. You shamelessly stated it elsewhere that Yoruba dubious authors always went to the Benin palace to gather information, only for them to go skew whatever information they got to paint a less glorious picture of the kingdom; something the immediate past Oba felt was a drift which needed urgent correction, and thus decided to write his own perspectives about his ancestors and their origins. The very source those foolish Yoruba authors went to is now the one coming out with the true picture of what they had always told those Yoruba distorters, but because, many of you have already been programmed and conditioned to propagate lies, you claim the source is wrong, but what your own people brought out of the same source is correct. Isn't that thoroughly stupid and yet you come here to announce yourself as an intellectual. I've told you, stop arrogating scholarship to yourself, at best you're only a local herbs mixer in a little hut in ile ife where you engage in dubious historical fabrication. When it comes to this particular topic, I would NEVER accept anything coming from a Yoruba that doest tally with the stories coming from Benin. Waste your time here from now till eternity, you cannot change that. The Edos are very patriotic to their culture and customs and would NEVER accept garbages slipping in from outside especially Yoruba crooked quacks. So keep blabbing. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by steveosaz(m): 8:40am On Jun 07, 2018 |
Y0ruba:Let me restate it again, there's nothing like Yoruba history- its a fraud perpetrated for several years. What you fools now call Yoruba history is only a collection of fairytales with divergent versions and editions. I've never seen anywhere there has been an abuse of history than with the Yoruba. I told you guys earlier, streamline your Oduduwa perspective first before you can be taken serious. You are currently painting yourselves as comedians before the world. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by steveosaz(m): 8:53am On Jun 07, 2018 |
Y0ruba:The several poster had only succeeded in adding salt to injury. They were utterly incoherent and dubious just like yourself. Contradictions were like rastals all through their arguments. Because most of what you people call stories are actually things that never happened but were purely the figment of the imagination of certain people, that's why the stories lack alignment and currency. Just the way a country comes up with national symbols such as national anthems, design of flags, coat of arms and the likes, that's the same way Yoruba people formulated most of those stories to fit into a picture they are frantically trying to sell to the world about being a great tribe. You find artifacts and then spin a story around it. Till eternity, Yoruba would never achieve unity in their historical perspectives. Again, we cannot wave off what the Olugbo or the Alaafin of Oyo is saying. They are calling attention to grave historical distortions and imposition in Ife. And as far as objectivity is concerned, the ooni has questions to answer. He must tell everyone who he really is and where he came from. That he is a slave is no longer in doubt, but what is crying for explanation is where is he from. Where was he bought from and how did he get himself accepted as king. These are what he is being told to elaborate on that he has been running away from. Alaafin is number one monarch in yorubaland while Oduduwa's roots remain in Benin. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by steveosaz(m): 8:57am On Jun 07, 2018 |
Y0ruba:Your being from Ife is what propels you to strive so hard to protect the fraud you all ooni. To extent that you dismiss the Alaafin's claims and also that of the Olugbo. Even the Awujale, you also dismissed. I told you , you are a voodoo historian who should be a local herbs mixer. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by steveosaz(m): 9:05am On Jun 07, 2018 |
Y0ruba:Hahahaha, see how you finally commit intellectual harakiri - ripping your stinky belly out. You don't want us to look at Ife history from an outside perspective, but you are here just like your brainless Yoruba compatriots advancing you putrid views about Bini/Edo from an outside perspective. If I cannot tell ife story from an outsiders perspective, then you clearly do not have the right to tell Edo story being a bloody outsider yourself. And isn't it a case of senility for you to now claim the very number one insider-the Oba of Benin is wrong fro. His own direct sources. So you now expect us to open our doors to allow pillagers like you come in, see A and report B. You must be sick! |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Olu317(m): 9:43am On Jun 07, 2018 |
davidnazee:imagine how unstudied you are! A real big disappointment to Oviedos. So ,Bini conquered all of them ? You are really the biggest clown of all time on NL. You can even posit Bini conquered ILE . Bloody liar. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Olu317(m): 9:43am On Jun 07, 2018 |
davidnazee:imagine how unstudied you are! A real big disappointment to Oviedos. So ,Bini conquered all of them ? You are really the biggest clown of all time on NL. You can even posit Bini conquered ILEIFE . Bloody liar..... |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Olu317(m): 9:48am On Jun 07, 2018 |
Y0ruba:Davidzee or Davidnazee is a bloody clown. It is better he change his name/monicker to Davidedo ,since do do do are prevalent in their lexicon. He should not be taken serious, in whatsoever.Cheers. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by steveosaz(m): 10:41am On Jun 07, 2018 |
In the meantime, this is how Yoruba kings degrade royalty by engaging in frivolities with commoners. This is the Oba of Lagos and Tinubu's son. There is no where in the whole world where kings indulge in public show of shame like this other than in yorubaland. Yet they say they have a history. History my foot!
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| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moorish: 11:37am On Jun 07, 2018 |
Do you know Igbo, igala, Edo and Yoruba languages all derive from one root source ? Let us try and build bridges guys You guys are scholars Scholars all bow to reasoning and logic Not insults or mockery |
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