₦airaland Forum

eodavids:
Dear, Kingibe is the only living beneficiary of these awards to Abiola (GCFR); Kingibe (GCON) and Gani (GCON).

Let it dawn on you that the dead has nothing to benefit from this cosmetics of awards. But, your guess is as too as mine: Kingibe will reap much much benefit from it.

Kinigbe is an irrelevance in this move, this move is from Jagaban to diminish both OBJ and IBB (who annulled the election) both of whom are joining forces against Buhari. OBJ electricity probe, Saraki armed robbery suspects, now National award to Gani and MKO and you are talking about Kinigbe?

geometricaxis:
Agbakogba will not because he wants to be president and he wont want to alienate the SW, Ozekhome may but no judge will rule in his favour because of the political implications. The law is ambiguous enough for the supreme court to err on the side of caution. Like it or not a precedent has been set, national awards will henceforth be granted post-humously.

Your point is noted. But do not forget that the law is an ass. It mustn't be during Buharis regime, but, judicial pronouncements will be made to correct this anomaly.

eodavids:
Your point is noted. But do not forget that the law is an ass. It mustn't be during Buharis regime, but, judicial pronouncements will be made to correct this anomaly.

The most that will happen is an amendment to the act to explicitly allow post humous awards, No sane judge will declare this illegal

geometricaxis:
Kinigbe is an irrelevance in this move, this move is from Jagaban to diminish both OBJ and IBB (who annulled the election) both of whom are joining forces against Buhari. OBJ electricity probe, Saraki armed robbery suspects, now National award to Gani and MKO and you are talking about Kinigbe?

Read between the lines. Abiola and Gani no longer has anything to gain is this awards. But Kingibe has a lot to gain. The award giver did it because he knows who the true beneficiary is.

geometricaxis:
The most that will happen is an amendment to the act to explicitly allow post humous awards, No sane judge will declare this illegal

See, an amendment even if effected cannot operate retrospectively. The law does not operate retrospectively. Note that.

eodavids:
Read between the lines. Abiola and Gani no longer has anything to gain is this awards. But Kingibe has a lot to gain. The award giver did it because he knows who the true beneficiary is.

Buhari did not give the award because he has any love for gani or MKO. you read between the lines and read again what I wrote, the is a battle for the SW as well as a battle to to take on OBJ and IBB. This has Jagaban written all over it.


Who cares about Kinigbe, he is an irrelevance.

eodavids:
See, an amendment even if effected cannot operate retrospectively. The law does not operate retrospectively. Note that.

Look I'm not going back and forth with you, Abiolas awards stands one way or another is all i am saying. either the law and award stays as is or law is ammended and he is then re awarded but no one will take away Abiolas GCFR and Nigeria will remain as a country.

Buhari want to buy the West with dis move.

geometricaxis:
Buhari did not give the award because he has any love for gani or MKO. you read between the lines and read again what I wrote, the is a battle for the SW as well as a battle to to take on OBJ and IBB. This has Jagaban written all over it.


Who cares about Kinigbe, he is an irrelevance.

I agree with you on the battle for Southwest. But will the southwesterners be deceived now to take this move as a reasonable incentive from buharis Government to give him the unflinching support??

No no!.

What the southwesterners must get, which they truly deserve is THE GRANTING OF SPECIAL STATUS TO LAGOS AS THE REAL COSMOPOLITAN CITY IN NIGERIA.

Anything short of this is not of any benefit the southwest and they should not be deceived with little award that stands the risk of being revoked in near future.

Akainzo:
Actually you and your ilk are the ones that are ignorant of the law!

While Section 3, Paragraph 2 stated that the awards are to be received in person, which is the basis for the "not posthumous" scream, the very next Paragraph, Paragraph 3, stated clearly that



That clearly, allows the President to suspend the provisions of Paragraph 2 if he so wishes.

You guys need to read the law COMPLETELY.

What you have quoted there says "any person". I don't think it includes a dead person and since it isn't totally explicit, I think it should be clarified. We have a former CJN faulting the president's action and I don't think you are in a better position to explain the constitution than someone who has held that position before and can be described as an authority in legal matters concerning Nigeria.

geometricaxis:
Look I'm not going back and forth with you, Abiolas awards stands one way or another is all i am saying. either the law and award stays as is or law is ammended and he is then re awarded but no one will take away Abiolas GCFR and Nigeria will remain as a country.

you are on point bro, this is just like Faleke/Bello case, the law was vague and the court erred on the side of caution. No court can invalidate this decision and no president will revert it.
What I want to be address is the swear-in date, is it now Jun 12 or still May 29

eodavids:
I agree with you on the battle for Southwest. But will the southwesterners be deceived now to take this move as a reasonable incentive from buharis Government to give him the unflinching support??

No no!.

What the southwesterners must get, which they truly deserve is THE GRANTING OF SPECIAL STATUS TO LAGOS AS THE REAL COSMOPOLITAN CITY IN NIGERIA.

Anything short of this is not of any benefit the southwest and they should not be deceived with little award that stands the risk of being revoked in near future.

I had no intention to vote come 2019 but based on this I will vote for Buhari come 2019. Why? No country moves forward without given recognition to significant moments in it's history, especially people who died in the struggle. Buhari whether or not for political gain has corrected an anomally that will stand long after all of us are dead, whether or not his administration has been competent, this is a truly significant moment. Plus anything I can do to consign the evil that isOBJ to extinction I will do.

who cares about lagos, let lagos fix itself and the theivery and god fatherism first before looking for special status

chronique:
What you have quoted there says "any person". I don't think it includes a dead person and since it isn't totally explicit, I think it should be clarified. We have a former CJN faulting the president's action and I don't think you are in a better position to explain the constitution than someone who has held that position before and can be described as an authority in legal matters concerning Nigeria.

just the way you are using S3p2 for your defense, advocate of it will use the S3p3, the word if he think it's expedient to do away with p2 gave him a very strong backing to decide how he feels it should go.

chronique:
What you have quoted there says "any person". I don't think it includes a dead person and since it isn't totally explicit, I think it should be clarified. We have a former CJN faulting the president's action and I don't think you are in a better position to explain the constitution than someone who has held that position before and can be described as an authority in legal matters concerning Nigeria.

Any person is ANY person, that person can be short, tall, dead, alive, in ICU, hospitalized.

In law, so long as there is no statement to exclude a dead person, then a dead person is allowed.

deflover:
Hmmmm the elderly man says na corner of mouth person dey take chop kolanut
So yesterday we heard the news that June 12 is now democracy day
Same June 12 that the Yorubas stop observing after they won elections under APC in 2015.
And I watched Yorubas scream and dance
Ewedu and gbegiri was served free in all iya barsiratu amala joints.
Agberos gave free tickets
Even bisi our street prostitute allowed me to press her yansh for the first time.
Is this how gullible a whole tribe can be.
Suddenly buhari is the best thing after agbo jedi jedi
Even after he disgraced their demi god tinubu
When emir sanusi said Yorubas are the problem of Nigeria I was wondering how he came about his notion
How can a people forget so soon
Now the killings in the middle belt doesn't matter
The killings in ife doesn't matter
A traditional ruler of Yoruba culture was arrested like a common thief
Yet it doesn't matter
The killings in their farms
It doesn't matter
You see why most of us hate this tribe
How they are helping the north destroy the nation just for a few crumbs
All they say is OBJ didn't recognize MKO
Buhari has done it
So all his sins are forgiven
Now he will get Yoruba votes
South south south east
You see why we laugh at any handshake across the Niger
These people will never change
Their aim is to undermine us
Make sure we don't achieve anything
We should be wise
This is a wake up call
The Yorubas are not our friends
They hate us more than we know

Your write up here did a lot of damages to your educational heights.

Akainzo:
Any person is ANY person, that person can be short, tall, dead, alive, in ICU, hospitalized.

In law, so long as there is no statement to exclude a dead person, then a dead person is allowed.

GBAM otherwise there would be no need to qualify a dead person if a person does not include the dead.

SuperS1Panther:
We defeated you and made you our conquered Osus by helping your miserable lives with £20.

Not everyone after Ore ondo state is Igbo
Awolowo free education was a waste after all

geometricaxis:
I had no intention to vote come 2019 but based on this I will vote for Buhari come 2019. Why? No country moves forward without given recognition to significant moments in it's history, especially people who died in the struggle. Buhari whether or not for political gain has corrected an anomally that will stand long after all of us are dead, whether or not his administration has been competent, this is a truly significant moment. Plus anything I can do to consign the evil that isOBJ to extinction I will do.

who cares about lagos, let lagos fix itself and the theivery and god fatherism first before looking for special status

Sorry!

I put it to you that you are not a southwesterner. If you were, you will refuse to be bribed with crumbs when you deserve real meals.

Largos' special status has enompus economic gain for the southwest. Juxtaposed with this award which benefits only Kingibe - the west loses out completely.

Now look at the fact:
Buhari will not grant special status to Lagos because that makes Lagos go far-far ahead of Kano, the commercial hub of the northern which the northerners wished can overtake Lagos.

So Buhari will hadly grant special status to lagos because of the enormous benefit but has swiftly granted a posthumous award to dead Abiola and dead Gani who will remain oblivious of the cosmetics award.
Kingibe on the other hand will be celebrating right now with his well wishers.

In a nutshell: it still victory for the north and zero to the south.

Vatsyayana:
Well this is an executive order. Let's see how far it can go.

Executive order indeed

geometricaxis:
I had no intention to vote come 2019 but based on this I will vote for Buhari come 2019. Why? No country moves forward without given recognition to significant moments in it's history, especially people who died in the struggle. Buhari whether or not for political gain has corrected an anomally that will stand long after all of us are dead, whether or not his administration has been competent, this is a truly significant moment. Plus anything I can do to consign the evil that isOBJ to extinction I will do.

who cares about lagos, let lagos fix itself and the theivery and god fatherism first before looking for special status

If you will forget the over 5000 lives lost and over 13 million jobs lost to Buharis bad governance and vote him because of a public holiday that could be done by anyone at anytime then it shows the kind of poor thinking you do all day

Legal or illegal....,political or no political......,,i believe Buhari has taken a strong step by making June 12 a democracy day

Is PDP looting legal? Face front

ZorGBUooeh:
The democracy day is also illegal cos he dint consult the senate.

Well at least he for allow the yorubas rejoice over de 419 award a little na..I heard they are already preparing 1trillion votes for him.

Lmao!

eodavids:
Sorry!

I put it to you that you are not a southwesterner. If you were, you will refuse to be bribed with crumbs when you deserve real meals.

Largos' special status has enompus economic gain for the southwest. Juxtaposed with this award which benefits only Kingibe - the west loses out completely.

Now look at the fact:
Buhari will not grant special status to Lagos because that makes Lagos go far-far ahead of Kano, the commercial hub of the northern which the northerners wished can overtake Lagos.

So Buhari will hadly grant special status to lagos because of the enormous benefit but has swiftly granted a posthumous award to dead Abiola and dead Gani who will remain oblivious of the cosmetics award.
Kingibe on the other hand will be celebrating right now with his well wishers.

In a nutshell: it still victory for the north and zero to the south.

My friend whoever comes in in 2019 is not going to do much for you and I, they are all the same. I dont know why you are killing yourself over this. This is not about being from the SW. Like i said heroes (even accidental ones like Abiola) and significant moments in our history must be recognised. Abiola, OBJ, IBB,Atiku, Abacha,IBB,etc etc are all from the same mother. I am not a fan of any of them, Abiola himself was a govt contractor who was killed by the same lions on whose backs he rode. Acknowledging June 12 is not about coming from the SW, it's not about Abiols the man, it's about us as a people. Yes I know this was a political calculation but sometimes even your enemy can do something right. Salvage your mind from this North south mentality and acknowledge that fior whatever reason it was done, June 12 has been acknowledged. or you would rather Obasanjo's may 29 who worked to make sure no yoruba man had any higher honour than himself?


I still do not understand your Obsession with Kinigbe.

SalamRushdie:
If you will forget the over 5000 lives lost and over 13 million jobs lost to Buharis bad governance and vote him because of a public holiday that could be done by anyone at anytime then it shows the kind of poor thinking you do all day

and who is your alternative? WHat did the guy before do? who is the alternative that will do any different? I am not voting for him based on performance. I will vote for him because he has corrected a wrong and if you are too shallow to get that, then you arent worthy of any further dialogue.

And by the way let me make on thing clear, the problem with Nigeria is not GEj or Buhari, the problem with Nigeria is the average Nigerian. So long as Nigerians are the way they are it doesnt matter who is president, we will continue to be a sh*thole

geometricaxis:
Agbakogba will not because he wants to be president and he wont want to alienate the SW, Ozekhome may but no judge will rule in his favour because of the political implications. The law is ambiguous enough for the supreme court to err on the side of caution. Like it or not a precedent has been set, national awards will henceforth be granted post-humously.

The law is NOT ambiguous. Section 3 Paragraph 3 enables the President to suspend the provisions of Paragraph 2. Once the requirement for the award to be received in person as stipulated by Paragraph 2 is suspended, it means that provision is no longer required.

The President has rightly, and legally, exercised his discretion as granted him by the laws of the Federation to do the right thing.

geometricaxis:
and who is your alternative? WHat did the guy before do? who is the alternative that will do any different? I am not voting for him based on performance. I will vote for him because he has corrected a wrong and if you are too shallow to get that, then you arent worthy of any further dialogue.

And by the way let me make on thing clear, the problem with Nigeria is not GEj or Buhari, the problem with Nigeria is the average Nigerian. So long as Nigerians are the way they are it doesnt matter who is president, we will continue to be a sh*thole

I hope you know I voted for Buhari in 2015 and Obama not voting for him because he is a terrorist who has been arming and protecting killer herdsmen as they plunder Nigeria ...if you are not voting Buhari because of performance then you are voting him because he is protecting you bigotry interest either as a Muslim or a northener...which one are you

Akainzo:
The law is NOT ambiguous. Section 3 Paragraph 3 enables the President to suspend the provisions of Paragraph 2. Once the requirement for the award to be received in person as stipulated by Paragraph 2 is suspended, it means that provision is no longer required.

The President has rightly, and legally, exercised his discretion as granted him by the laws of the Federation to do the right thing.

can we fast forward? It is not politically expedient to remove Abiols's national honour so whether by interpretation of law as it stands or by future ammendment,
the bottom line is Abiols's GCFR is not going anywhere, if they succeed in challenging it, the law will be am mended and it will be reinstated.

EOD

SalamRushdie:
I hope you know I voted for Buhari in 2015 and Obama not voting for him because he is a terrorist who has been arming and protecting killer herdsmen as they plunder Nigeria ...if you are not voting Buhari because of performance then you are voting him because he is protecting you bigotry interest either as a Muslim or a northener...which one are you

Even FFK recognises the significance of this and commended Buhari for it. so who is is the real Bigot?

Abeg find somebody else to rant with

geometricaxis:
Abeg find somebody else to rant with

Get out of my mention

They have come again, if Buhari did not acknowledge june 12, they will start saying he is undemocratic and not sensitive for the fight for democracy in Nigeria.
Now he has acknowledged the date and honored the late MKO Abiola, yet haters of the President still can not see reason, that the president has decided to make it a day for Nigerians to celebrate democracy rather than celebrating Hand over day in May 29th..

What Buhari has done is what Obasanjo could not do.
What Buhari has done is what Yaradua could not do.
What Buhari has done is what Goodluck could not do
Shame to all those that enjoy democracy they never fought for yet could not honored those that fought for the democracy they so much enjoy...
People can say what ever they what to say about Buhari but he has proven to be more democratic than all the president we have had from 1999 till now.....

GSA01:
They have come again, if Buhari did not acknowledge june 12, they will start saying he is undemocratic and not sensitive for the fight for democracy in Nigeria.
Now he has acknowledged the date and honored the late MKO Abiola, yet haters of the President still can not see reason, that the president has decided to make it a day for Nigerians to celebrate democracy rather than celebrating Hand over day in May 29th..

What Buhari has done is what Obasanjo could not do.
What Buhari has done is what Yaradua could not do.
What Buhari has done is what Goodluck could not do
Shame to all those that enjoy democracy they never fought for yet could not honored those that fought for the democracy they so much enjoy...
People can say what ever they what to say about Buhari but he has proven to be more democratic than all the president we have had from 1999 till now.....

Thank-you

There is no bigger hater of Buhari than FFK, even FFK commended Buhari for this and some idiots are here talking crap blaming buhari and turning this into North/Muslim bashing agenda. Any Nigerian who cannot see the significance of this, irrespective of tribe, religion and political affilation should sit down and ponder and realise that it is that sort of mentality (when you cannot even acknowledge a good development because of ingrained bias) that is to blame for Nigeria's problems.