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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:12pm On Jun 07, 2018
The cool and turquoise Lake Paradise at the top of Mount Marsabit, Northern Kenya.

The Lake Occupies Gof Sokorte Guda, one of the Craters of the mountain.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:16pm On Jun 07, 2018
The Kenyans in London wink

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:18pm On Jun 07, 2018
Kenya's up and coming rugby team, also known as Chipukizi.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:22pm On Jun 07, 2018
nwoke37:


You realize South Africa is a much older economy than Nigeria(i'm not talking about Independence) and is thus more advanced than Nigeria's although Nigeria has now the largest economy.. I mean take a look at sab miller, it was founded in 1895 in South Africa... Where were Nigerian companies at that time... virtually non existent... Plus South Africa has a large influx of foreigners.. this is why virtually all of multinational big South African companies are white owned

I could also use this example for Kenya... Kenya has a more advanced formal retail economy than Nigeria due to the large influx of foreigners in Kenya.. this is why stores like nakumatt are Indian owned

Many companies in the Kenya fail to identify their controlling shareholders. Take an example you mentioned Nakumatt.You think its owned by Indians but the major shareholder was one black dude called Mwau.The guy pulled his money out an now Nakumatt is going down…
Many black Kenyans own stakes in most of this companies but you guys keep on screaming white an Indians.

Truth be told. The richest ..an I mean the riches folks in Kenya are blacks. They don’t need to show their accounts but am telling you what everyone here knows. There are families who are billionaires in dollars but ya would hear about it

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke37: 4:23pm On Jun 07, 2018
MPSA:

We dominate all your shopping malls in your country, almost everything that you see in your malls is South African grin

Several Nigerian companies have been trying to crack the South African market, most to no avail...But as Nigerian companies become more competitive,richer, and continue to establish their presence in other African countries, soon Nigeria will crack the South African market.
Already Dangote has succesfully entered South Africa..

Dangote’s South African unit Sephaku is the country’s largest cement maker
Source:https://www.reuters.com/article/ppc-ma-dangote-cement/update-2-nigerias-dangote-no-longer-interested-in-south-african-ppc-tie-up-idUSL8N1MH2I3

Here is Dangote's South African website:
http://www.dangotecement.com/operations/south-africa/

Goodluck buying cement from a Nigerian company... and oh yea Dangote is black

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:23pm On Jun 07, 2018
TayserMahiri:
The Kenyans in London wink
Nice pics msee.Tell Nowe thats how average Kenyan look like..

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke37: 4:28pm On Jun 07, 2018
mtis:


Many companies in the Kenya fail to identify their controlling shareholders. Take an example you mentioned Nakumatt.You think its owned by Indians but the major shareholder was one black dude called Mwau.The guy pulled his money out an now Nakumatt is going down…
Many black Kenyans own stakes in most of this companies but you guys keep on screaming white an Indians.

Truth be told. The richest ..an I mean the riches folks in Kenya are blacks. They don’t need to show their accounts but am telling you what everyone here knows. There are families who are billionaires in dollars but ya would hear about it

I don't disagree with blacks having shares... but the main concept i was talking about is that these companies were founded by foreigners, Indians in Kenya, and Whites in South Africa. Technically it's not bad, cuz in the end you guys have a more advanced system while countries like Nigeria will have to catch up.. But in the end it'll be Nigerian indigenous companies that will fill the space foreigners in Kenya and South Africa have done

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by naijalander: 4:29pm On Jun 07, 2018
If you are a comedian in Kenya and you can't make your audience laugh without making some joke about Nigerians, just admit and say your a boring person. I swear, I will ensure that Obinna guy gets arrested if he ever comes to Nigeria and I'm around.

TayserMahiri:


You can attend one of their shows
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:46pm On Jun 07, 2018
mtis:


Many companies in the Kenya fail to identify their controlling shareholders. Take an example you mentioned Nakumatt.You think its owned by Indians but the major shareholder was one black dude called Mwau.The guy pulled his money out an now Nakumatt is going down…
Many black Kenyans own stakes in most of this companies but you guys keep on screaming white an Indians.

Truth be told. The richest ..an I mean the riches folks in Kenya are blacks. They don’t need to show their accounts but am telling you what everyone here knows. There are families who are billionaires in dollars but ya would hear about it

These backward guys cant comprehend simple symbiotic relationships in enterprise. Tuskys Supermarket (black owned) came to the rescue of Nakummatt (indian owned) when last year the company was flopping despite the two being fierce rivals.


Kenya’s second largest supermarket, Tuskys, has come to the rescue of its larger rival, Nakumatt, to save the latter from shuttering. The rescue came after Nakumatt, East Africa’s largest retailer, failed to secure a $75 million financing deal quickly enough to avoid its suppliers cutting it off.

https://qz.com/1082498/in-kenya-nakumatt-is-being-taken-over-by-tuskys/

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:48pm On Jun 07, 2018
naijalander:
If you are a comedian in Kenya and you can't make your audience laugh without making some joke about Nigerians, just admit and say your a boring person. I swear, I will ensure that Obinna guy gets arrested if he ever comes to Nigeria and I'm around.

On what basis will he be arrested?

Racism? grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by naijalander: 4:57pm On Jun 07, 2018
On the basis of being a fool.

Mind you, most Kenyans get their views about Nigeria from Afrosinema (another racist piece of sh*t with a foolish accent introduces the show) watching movies made in mid 90s!

You guys suck.
TayserMahiri:


On what basis will he be arrested?

Racism? grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 4:58pm On Jun 07, 2018
Excuses excuses - ohoo blacks or blue or white or indians! every country has their comparative advantages and disadvantages. I mean Nigeria is incredibly blessed with tonnes of hydro-carbons that they sell for top-dollars. Kenyans we got "nothing". According to the Nigerians - we just have some 80K indians as our hydrocarbon. Obviously whatever we got - including deserts we have tried to make them count - and that what every country ought to do - take advantage of it's natural and human resource to progress.

Please Nigerians stop
1) Making lame EXCUSES. Admit that you're IN a hell-hole. Perhaps one of Africa worse hell-hole. I mean lack of 24hrs electricity for how many decades now - even the worse of African country would revolt if that was to happen - been to many african countries - damn even Mogadishu have some decent electricity supply!

2) Consoling yourself with future plans & dreams. If wishes were horse, beggars could ride.

Deal with now & here. You can see us kenyans openly admit where we have problems. We don't ran away from them. We don't look for excuses.

Whatever cards nature has dealt you - make it count.

Admit you got huge problems. Your cities are nothing more than slums.Admit your economy outside OIL industry is chicken shiet. Admit you're FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR away from South Africa level. And for goodness sake you're not the GIANTS of Africa - except in Population. Tell you Stats office to go back and count again!!! What will South Africa or Egypt call themselves grin

Then start crawling out of that hell-hole called Nigeria...diversify from oil..review your messed up education (kenya is just about started with 3rd education reform - we change British systems(7-6-3) to Canadian systems(8-4-4 with vocational studies emphasis) in 1984 and now we are trying something else that we think is more progressive - 2-3-6-3-3 or something as crazy as that..)...I can go on and on...but it very disheartening to hear Nigerians from politicians to citizens making endless excuses.

Stop bleaching or running away from Nigeria, look your at black-self in the mirror and start leading honest lives.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 5:08pm On Jun 07, 2018
nwoke37:


You realize South Africa is a much older economy than Nigeria(i'm not talking about Independence) and is thus more advanced than Nigeria's although Nigeria has now the largest economy.. I mean take a look at sab miller, it was founded in 1895 in South Africa... Where were Nigerian companies at that time... virtually non existent... Plus South Africa has a large influx of foreigners.. this is why virtually all of multinational big South African companies are white owned

I could also use this example for Kenya... Kenya has a more advanced formal retail economy than Nigeria due to the large influx of foreigners in Kenya.. this is why stores like nakumatt are Indian owned

You don't have to write just because you have that freedom, facts must always come first.

Currently the biggest retailers in the country are owned 100% by black Kenyans. Nakumatt went under.

If foreigners were the reason for the advanced retail sector, we have countries like Botwana, Namibia,Zimbabwe,Madagascar would have more advenced retail sector than Kenya.

In kenya you will find malls and supermarkets in villages, low to high income areas.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by naijalander: 5:10pm On Jun 07, 2018
Good you have learned your lesson.

NairobiWalker:


Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 5:11pm On Jun 07, 2018
rvp20182:
I for once thought we were talking penetration - if you're talking absolute numbers - then clearly our pop is 48M and yours 190m! Again the really pathetic education you've received from Nigeria is shinning through. You cannot make one logical sound argument for crying out loud.
You are indeed very stupid, Sir. I was talking about phone penetration when you stupidly brought up internet penetration. Now you are crying when I faced you with population numbers which obviously scared you. You should have realized the inconsequentiality of your country by now. That's why Nigerian businessmen are coming to East Africa to eat your lunch. My friend, size matters. Ask your babe.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 5:12pm On Jun 07, 2018
naijalander:
On the basis of being a fool.

Mind you, most Kenyans get their views about Nigeria from Afrosinema (another racist piece of sh*t with a foolish accent introduces the show) watching movies made in mid 90s!

You guys suck.

You guys haven't evolved an inch since 90's. Same story different cast.

The other day I tried to watch the very latest naija movies on utube to see if you guys have up your game but nothing, couldn't watch one for ten minutes..
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by naijalander: 5:13pm On Jun 07, 2018
Give me the name of the movie. You are a pathological liar like the rest of your people. As if Kenya could ever produce a good movie.

Jay254:


You guys haven't evolved an inch since 90's. Same story different cast.

The other day I tried to watch the very latest naija movies on utube to see if you guys have up your game but nothing, couldn't watch one for ten minutes..

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 5:15pm On Jun 07, 2018
Read again - we beat you all over - smartphone penetration - internet penetration - phone penetration.

And you are throwing absolute numbers - we beat your in phone penetration - Kenya phone penetration is around 90% - Nigeria around 80%. You total connection is anything 140-160M - you still have about 50M (ANOTHER KENYA) inside Nigeria - before you can thinking of expanding to East Africa. In Kenya we are already 40M plus out of 48M - we only have to buy our teenagers phones to make
obaaderemi:
You are indeed very stupid, Sir. I was talking about phone penetration when you stupidly brought up internet penetration. Now you are crying when I faced you with population numbers which obviously scared you. You should have realized the inconsequentiality of your country by now. That's why Nigerian businessmen are coming to East Africa to eat your lunch. My friend, size matters. Ask your babe.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 5:23pm On Jun 07, 2018
naijalander:
Give me the name of the movie. You are a pathological liar like the rest of your people. As if Kenya could ever produce a good movie.



You guys haven't evolved an inch..

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by naijalander: 5:27pm On Jun 07, 2018
still a couple of usd billions strong. wtf is a Riverwood ?

Jay254:



You guys haven't evolved an inch..
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 5:28pm On Jun 07, 2018
As Nigerian are stuck with old British system - that clearly hasn't worked - Kenya is already on it's second systems that is skill-based replacing the 1984's (8-4-4) that was vocational based....

British System - 7-4-2-3 - we dumped it because it was too academic!
We adopted Canadian systems 8-4-4 - that emphasis vocational training - it soon became too burdensome for kids & too expensive
Now we are onto our own 2-6-3-3-3 - that de-emphasis exams (instead Kids will do CATS) & is more skill-based & will concentrate on pre-primary & primary - the foundation of kids - after which it hard to mold them.

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2017/12/25/new-2-6-3-3-3-curriculum-how-different-is-it-from-the-8-4-4-system_c1689364

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:30pm On Jun 07, 2018
naijalander:
On the basis of being a fool.

Mind you, most Kenyans get their views about Nigeria from Afrosinema (another racist piece of sh*t with a foolish accent introduces the show) watching movies made in mid 90s!

You guys suck.

Are you saying the accent in Afrosinema is not the Nigerian accent? You sound revisionist and you need to style up.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MIKOLOWISKA: 5:38pm On Jun 07, 2018
nwoke37:


First off Spar isn't South African.. It's a franchise with its headquarters in Netherlands...Spar was brought to NIgeria by an Indian-Nigerian, not South Africa. Nigeria has Stanbic IBTC(It was a merger between a South African and Nigerian bank)... Nigeria doesn't have pick and pay..Nigeria doesn't have jet mart, Golly where are you getting your facts..

Nigeria has several telecommunication brands.. MTN doesn't even control half the Nigerian market... It only controls 42%...

Doubt sab miller castle beer is popular in Nigeria... and lol its headquarters is in England...

All these brands are white brands.. where are the black multinationals?
Mtn na Arab moni sef
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 5:46pm On Jun 07, 2018
naijalander:
still a couple of usd billions strong. wtf is a Riverwood ?


Nollywood was among the biggest in the world but the viewership is crazyly shrinking.. some time back most Kenyans really enjoyed the movies but now it has been left to the house maid and villagers.

Nigerian producers should adapt to changing times.. 30yrs on and things are still done the same way?? You guys must be serious.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke37: 5:51pm On Jun 07, 2018
Jay254:


You guys haven't evolved an inch since 90's. Same story different cast.

The other day I tried to watch the very latest naija movies on utube to see if you guys have up your game but nothing, couldn't watch one for ten minutes..

most of those movies are even older movies that are posted as new..
Have you heard of The Wedding Party, The Wedding Party 2, The Ceo, Isoken, 93 days, The Royal Hibiscus Hotel, Banana Island Ghost.... etc

Just look up trailers of these movies, and you'll see how rapidly Nollywood is evolving... We're not there yet but I'm beginning to see the changes.. More higher budget movies are being made..
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke37: 6:02pm On Jun 07, 2018
Jay254:


You don't have to write just because you have that freedom, facts must always come first.

Currently the biggest retailers in the country are owned 100% by black Kenyans. Nakumatt went under.

If foreigners were the reason for the advanced retail sector, we have countries like Botwana, Namibia,Zimbabwe,Madagascar would have more advenced retail sector than Kenya.

In kenya you will find malls and supermarkets in villages, low to high income areas.

Which was founded first nakumatt or tuskys?It was nakumatt. But perhaps i stepped off the ledge about Kenya... But definitely South Africa's advancement is due to the large influence European whites had in South Africa. Some of the biggest African companies are South African, and they're white owned or founded but the majority of SA is black
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 6:06pm On Jun 07, 2018
naijalander:
Good you have learned your lesson.

Lol................you didn't even realize the Kenyan pronunciation is the correct pronunciation. Load have mercy. grin grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 6:08pm On Jun 07, 2018
rvp20182:
Read again - we beat you all over - smartphone penetration - internet penetration - phone penetration.

And you are throwing absolute numbers - we beat your in phone penetration - Kenya phone penetration is around 90% - Nigeria around 80%. You total connection is anything 140-160M - you still have about 50M (ANOTHER KENYA) inside Nigeria - before you can thinking of expanding to East Africa. In Kenya we are already 40M plus out of 48M - we only have to buy our teenagers phones to make

He's a special case lol. So according to him, internet penetration is higher in Nigeria than Finland. He's the most stupid forumer on this thread.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 6:36pm On Jun 07, 2018
rvp20182:
Excuses excuses - ohoo blacks or blue or white or indians! every country has their comparative advantages and disadvantages. I mean Nigeria is incredibly blessed with tonnes of hydro-carbons that they sell for top-dollars. Kenyans we got "nothing". According to the Nigerians - we just have some 80K indians as our hydrocarbon. Obviously whatever we got - including deserts we have tried to make them count - and that what every country ought to do - take advantage of it's natural and human resource to progress.

Please Nigerians stop
1) Making lame EXCUSES. Admit that you're IN a hell-hole. Perhaps one of Africa worse hell-hole. I mean lack of 24hrs electricity for how many decades now - even the worse of African country would revolt if that was to happen - been to many african countries - damn even Mogadishu have some decent electricity supply!

2) Consoling yourself with future plans & dreams. If wishes were horse, beggars could ride.

Deal with now & here. You can see us kenyans openly admit where we have problems. We don't ran away from them. We don't look for excuses.

Whatever cards nature has dealt you - make it count.

Admit you got huge problems. Your cities are nothing more than slums.Admit your economy outside OIL industry is chicken shiet. Admit you're FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR away from South Africa level. And for goodness sake you're not the GIANTS of Africa - except in Population. Tell you Stats office to go back and count again!!! What will South Africa or Egypt call themselves grin

Then start crawling out of that hell-hole called Nigeria...diversify from oil..review your messed up education (kenya is just about started with 3rd education reform - we change British systems(7-6-3) to Canadian systems(8-4-4 with vocational studies emphasis) in 1984 and now we are trying something else that we think is more progressive - 2-3-6-3-3 or something as crazy as that..)...I can go on and on...but it very disheartening to hear Nigerians from politicians to citizens making endless excuses.

Stop bleaching or running away from Nigeria, look your at black-self in the mirror and start leading honest lives.

Clap! Clap! That's why I say even moi in his own way was a reformer with his 844. FYI an 844 grad can compete with the best anywhere.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 6:41pm On Jun 07, 2018
Special kind of stupid
NairobiWalker:


He's a special case lol. So according to him, internet penetration is higher in Nigeria than Finland. He's the most stupid forumer on this thread.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by OMANBALA1: 7:11pm On Jun 07, 2018
nwoke37:


most of those movies are even older movies that are posted as new..
Have you heard of The Wedding Party, The Wedding Party 2, The Ceo, Isoken, 93 days, The Royal Hibiscus Hotel, Banana Island Ghost.... etc

Just look up trailers of these movies, and you'll see how rapidly Nollywood is evolving... We're not there yet but I'm beginning to see the changes.. More higher budget movies are being made..


There is actually tw branches of Nollywood , the ones found on YouTube which village and unexposed people watch and the Lagos based Nollywood. Big difference....Since Lupita won Oscars Kenyans have lost their mind....lol

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