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steveosaz:
Yorubas are historical pillagers, so it wouldn't be out of place to regulate their access to palace information.
You people are known to work from the answer to the question - that's your stock in trade.

Meanwhile, tell us why the Olugbo of Ugbo is puncturing the falsehood and the blatant lie telling of the ooni.

Also tell us why the Alaafin and the Olugbo are both saying the ooni is a deceptive impersonator and stranger.

Even the Olugbo also quoted the Benin palace when they said Oduduwa was their lost prince.

Till tomorrow, there are millions of yorubas who would defend with their last blood the claim that Oduduwa came from Mecca via Egypt (this is simply to dodge another narrative that Oduduwa migrated to Ife from eastwards which ordinarily tallies with the Edo story).

There are yet still, millions of yorubas out there who say that Oduduwa came from heaven.

So at what point did you people revise all these and come up with the comical versions people like you now hide under the mango tree writing?

Dude, Yoruba history is a cow with multiple horns - no direction. It wouldn't even make a good storyline for children's cartoon.

Bring proof where Olugbo and Alaafin formed alliance? Looking for an escape root? Never. What concerns Oviedo with Yorubas highest position ? Face your only Oba,who refused to let you all know the meaning of Oba until Ewuare informed the who world that ,the word, ‘Oba' is a Yoruba word for king.Yoruba rocks.

Moneywomen17:
e pain am well why not say 1000 Kiss the truth U only won against those 6 kingdoms and centuries later not only did they kick ur ass after they got modern warfare they came to the heart of ur own kingdom conquer ur town and u had to beg instead like a coward instead of fight smh.

Less than a decade.

Moneywomen17:
e pain am well why not say 1000 Kiss the truth U only won against those 6 kingdoms and centuries later not only did they kick ur ass after they got modern warfare they came to the heart of ur own kingdom conquer ur town and u had to beg instead like a coward instead of fight smh.

Less than a decade not century before being chased out . The contact with Europeans around 1485 gave them such edge but always lost it. All wars Bini fought against Yorubas were lost at later time to yorubas. In fact, they fought Igalas,the Bini lost. The Bini fought against Itsekiri ,the Bini lost. . Even a descendant of Oba Bini is in Ekiti but pledge his allegiance to Ooni Oranmiyan–Odudua. Does this not show fraudulent act by revisionism of Oba Eredieuwa and the Uzamas who tried to twist history? We know our story, family by family and lineage by lineage, even when intermarriage is involved.

Y0ruba:
Olu ibini needs to line him & his co travellers up & pump hot leads in them. He is making Bini look bad. Poor comprehension skills & poor analytical abilities. If he had focused on Bini’s economic-military activities, it would not have been ao bad.

Interestingly, I stumbled on a research by Prof. Ekpo Eyo who excavated a burial site from where burial stuff related to the remains of Bini kings brought to Ife. I want them to beh so i can throw that out there.

,so when Oviedo bée ,you will unleashed the document? I am waiting for them to do the needful.

steveosaz:
Hahahaha, see how you finally commit intellectual harakiri - ripping your stinky belly out.

You don't want us to look at Ife history from an outside perspective, but you are here just like your brainless Yoruba compatriots advancing you putrid views about Bini/Edo from an outside perspective.

If I cannot tell ife story from an outsiders perspective, then you clearly do not have the right to tell Edo story being a bloody outsider yourself. And isn't it a case of senility for you to now claim the very number one insider-the Oba of Benin is wrong fro. His own direct sources.

So you now expect us to open our doors to allow pillagers like you come in, see A and report B. You must be sick!

steveosaz:
The several poster had only succeeded in adding salt to injury. They were utterly incoherent and dubious just like yourself. Contradictions were like rastals all through their arguments.

Because most of what you people call stories are actually things that never happened but were purely the figment of the imagination of certain people, that's why the stories lack alignment and currency.

Just the way a country comes up with national symbols such as national anthems, design of flags, coat of arms and the likes, that's the same way Yoruba people formulated most of those stories to fit into a picture they are frantically trying to sell to the world about being a great tribe. You find artifacts and then spin a story around it. Till eternity, Yoruba would never achieve unity in their historical perspectives.

Again, we cannot wave off what the Olugbo or the Alaafin of Oyo is saying. They are calling attention to grave historical distortions and imposition in Ife. And as far as objectivity is concerned, the ooni has questions to answer. He must tell everyone who he really is and where he came from. That he is a slave is no longer in doubt, but what is crying for explanation is where is he from. Where was he bought from and how did he get himself accepted as king. These are what he is being told to elaborate on that he has been running away from. Alaafin is number one monarch in yorubaland while Oduduwa's roots remain in Benin.

steveosaz:
Your being from Ife is what propels you to strive so hard to protect the fraud you all ooni. To extent that you dismiss the Alaafin's claims and also that of the Olugbo. Even the Awujale, you also dismissed.

I told you , you are a voodoo historian who should be a local herbs mixer.

As usual, no academic citations to back up your many tirades. I’ll say this the Alaafin, the Olugbo, you & your king have a lot of well researched works in History, Anthropology & Archeology that took almost the entirety of 20th century to contend with, a lot.

Any of your posts to me with no indicated references will get no response from me.

steveosaz:
See people who want to write Edo history, yet their obas are in a dirty was over supremacy and doctored history. Interestingly however, not only the Alaafin is telling the ooni that he is a slave and a nobody, the Olugbo of Ugbo kingdom in Ondo state Akinruntan Obateru is also calling the ooni a stranger and asking him to clearly identity his roots cause he is a usurper.

Here is a report on the matter from the punch newspaper.

FEMI MAKINDE

There is an ongoing battle of supremacy between the Ooni of Ife, Oba Adeyeye Ogunwusi, and Olugbo of Ugbo, Oba Obateru Akinruntan, over which throne is the monarchical seat of power in Yorubaland and the origin of Oduduwa, the so-called progenitor of Yoruba people.

Oba Akinruntan also attacked the Ooni of Ife for describing Moremi Ajasoro as a heroine.

The Ugbo monarch disagreed with the Ooni, who described Moremi as a goddess and recently built a 42-foot statue in her honour.

To the Ondo monarch, Moremi was a traitor who betrayed her husband, Osangangan Obamakin.

But in a swift reaction, the Ife monarch said Olugbo did not have deep knowledge of Yoruba history.

The Olugbo, in a statement issued by the Olugbo-in-Council, said, “We, the Olugbo–in–Council, found such (Ooni’s remarks about Moremi) unguarded statements and historical fallacy disturbing, particularly when such emanated from a monarch who is expected to be a custodian of history, customs and traditions of Yorubaland. We hereby state categorically that we are Ugbos, the aboriginal settlers and owners of Ile-Ife.

“Our forefathers descended from heaven, that is why we are called ‘Ugbo Atorunwo.’ We are not Ibos (Igbos), who are from the South-East, and who have their own clearly researched and defined ancestry. To set the record straight, Moremi remains a traitor. She was a slave captured by Ugbo warriors during one of their many raids on Ile-Ife. She later became the wife of Osangangan Obamakin, the son of Oranfe, of who was the paramount ruler of over 13 aboriginal communities of ancient Ugbomokun, which later came to be called Ile Ife.”

The statement said further, “Oduduwa came to Ugbomokun as a stranger and was welcomed in Ilero, the aboriginal palace of Osangangan Obamakin, which is still in existence in present-day Iremo, in Ile Ife. During the dynastic struggles, Osangangan Obamakin was [b]directed by the oracles (Ifa and Osanyin) to leave Ile Ife. [/b]Moremi betrayed her husband’s trust when she exposed the secret of the Ugbo warriors’ gallantry.”

“Popular history states that Oduduwa, the progenitor of the Ooni, migrated from the East/Mecca. In another account by the Oba of Benin, recently, Oduduwa came from Benin. We ask that the Ooni should confirm his ancestral roots. It is also of importance to note that in the ancient custom of Yoruba, an incumbent king must have no living father. Also, no man from a female lineage of a ruling house is qualified to sit on the throne.”

But Oba Ogunwusi, who spoke through the Director of Public Affairs of the Ooni’s Palace, Moses Olafare, said the Ooni would not dignify the Olugbo with an answer because he was more focused on achieving unity among all Yoruba people and would not allow himself to be distracted.

The Ooni insisted that Moremi was a heroine, who deserved accolade because of the role she played in the liberation of Ife people from some “faceless terrorists.”

He said, “This outburst of Olugbo can only be viewed by well-meaning people as a pitiable act of absurdity that doesn’t deserve serious attention by serious people. How on earth could a Yoruba king refer to Moremi as a traitor because she used her power as a woman to liberate her people from incessant invasions by some faceless terrorists?

“Most paramount on the mind of His Imperial Majesty, Ooni Adeyeye Ogunwusi Ojaja II, with the unflinching support of the Alaafin, baba; the Awujale; the Alake; the Orangun; the Deji; the Ewi; the Osemawe; the Olubadan; the Oba of Lagos; and other relevant peace-loving monarchs in Yorubaland and in other parts of the country is and remains the much-needed progress of Yoruba nation which can only be achieved through peace and unity.

“It is a pity that at this time when everybody is tired of retrogressive royal discord, the Olugbo, who claims to be the Chairman of Yoruba Obas Committee on Peace and Reconciliation, has suddenly without a deep knowledge of Yoruba history, woken up to see royal controversy as the only tool for cheap publicity.”

http://punchng.com/ooni-olugbo-supremacy-battle/

1. Ugbo were not warriors. They were not at war with their fellow Ugbo.

2. Osangan Obamakin took over the throne after Oduduwa. Moremi came into the picture during the reign of Obalufon II. How was she Osangan Obamakin’s wife again? Smh

3. Osangan Obamakin was Oramfe’s comtemporary & not his son. Like Oramfe, he was one of the 16 elders of Ife. Oramfe’s children were Ososo, Bamideyi, Oluyoko, Orasusi & Orayigba.

4. Ile’ro or Ile Ero was the place captured Ugbo were later resettled. When they were first captured, they were locked up in Ile Ugbo, a place withon the palace walls existing today but they did not come to fight and neither should dey be prisoners in their own lands and they were taken to Ilero from where they moved back to their Iwinrin section.

5. Osangan Obamakin never left Ife. The person who led that group of Ugbo out of Ife was Obawinrin.


You see the absurdity you refer to as history? You seem to enjoy revisionism a lot.

These books below were written in the 80s & are far removed from politics-influenced revisionism of today.

Y0ruba:
You’re a fxxxking Arrow.

Look at the Map of Naija.

Present day Ekiti state is made up of the 16 kingdoms & their dependencies. Point out Ekiti state.

Look at how small the entire state is.

Then look at the towns in the southern part of the state. Yes, the southern area Bini invaded was very tiny.

You’re welcome.

And since you asked, I am from Ife. I await your story about how Bini burnt it down. And while at it include references.

So now Ekiti is very tiny or Ekiti is a recent creation abi? Guy no need to continue ur delusion.
Benin Kingdom conquered and ruled all of Eastern Yoruba except Ife.. We cud have taken Ife but because of the spiritual status it has we left it alone..

So because I asked u which part of Yoruba are you from you run go claim Ife knowing Benin didn’t touch it abi lol. Why u no claim other parts, You know we conquered all..

Y0ruba:
If there’s nothing like Yoruba history then there’s nothing like Bini history.

Your inability to buy & read books is why you have made this careless statement.

Caucasians of different ethnicities have dedicated their entires lives to testing & studying Yoruba history. Yet a dimeit like you with a cheap axx brick phone is talking glib. Smh.

Abeg which history does Yoruba have? Which caucasians dedicated their lives to study Yoruba history? If u must know, the only way the little that is known about Yoruba was done using the “question and answer” method.. there was nothing else to use to find out about Yoruba only oral accounts which is always not credible.

Do u know why the British rushed to colonize Yoruba? I will tell u..
When the Europeans came the Yorubas were a broken and traumatized people, devastated by internal conflicts and external aggression from forces like the Benin and Fulanis..
The Yorubas were killing and selling themselves into slavery, the British afraid that the French may use the disorder and disorganization in the Yoruba race as an excuse to claim Yoruba as their colony quickly rushed to colonize the region.
The British out of pity and their selfish interests decided to save the Yorubas from themselves and from Benin Kingdom..
Now you know a little bit of your history..

Olu317:
imagine how unstudied you are! A real big disappointment to Oviedos. So ,Bini conquered all of them ? You are really the biggest clown of all time on NL. You can even posit Bini conquered ILE . Bloody liar.

Benin Kingdom conquered all of Eastern Yoruba, deal with it. Don’t blame me go blame your weak ancestors for allowing it to happen and giving me the edge over you to yab u with it.

Olu317:
Less than a decade.

No, you guys were ruled over 500yrs.. if the denial makes u feel good then keep on deny it, I don’t have a problem with ur feel good tactics..
I don’t know if Eastern Yoruba had up to 1000 settlements at that time but if it did then surely Benin conquered all..

And as for the coward statement you made, every Nigerian knows who are the cowards.. and the cowardly name attributed to you yorubas didn’t start recently nor was it Edos that started calling you cowards.. Yorubas have been known to be cowards since the beginning of time.
Imagine as soon as you hear Benin is coming full towns evacuate instead of standing to fight. You run and scatter in different directions.. some run to the mountains others run into the bushes and some in process of running fall inside hole and die there, many drowned in rivers while fleeing the advancing Benin armies.
Una weak sha..

davidnazee:
Benin Kingdom conquered all of Eastern Yoruba, deal with it. Don’t blame me go blame your weak ancestors for allowing it to happen and giving me the edge over you to yab u with it.

Yeah I do have legends as ancestors but do you have any to reckon with? I am waiting to read their names.

Olu317:
Yeah I do have legends as ancestors but do you have any to reckon with? I am waiting to read their names.

Chai.. that’s all ur can say? That was a very weak response, the weakest response so far from the Yorubas in the forum. Clap for ur self, u just won the award for weakest response.. Babaramota won award for the most moronic Yoruba in the forum, Y0ruba won award for the most foolish Yoruba scholar and now u don win too.
Yoruba never ceases to amaze.

We have our own legends but we don’t brag about them because it’s just legends. We prefer real things that can be verified..

davidnazee:
And the Igalas till today cannot forget what the Edos did to them..
Benin conquered and ruled your race.. go ask the igbos and Fulanis they will tell u it’s true..
If u like shout oo, deny it ooo but you can’t change what happened to ur people.. we shaped ur destiny

What did Edo do to Igalas? Please tell us openly or stop this hogwash.

davidnazee:
Chai.. that’s all ur can say? That was a very weak response, the weakest response so far from the Yorubas in the forum. Clap for ur self, u just won the award for weakest response.. Babaramota won award for the most moronic Yoruba in the forum, Y0ruba won award for the most foolish Yoruba scholar and now u don win too.
Yoruba never ceases to amaze.

We have our own legends but we don’t brag about them because it’s just legends. We prefer real things that can be verified..

Name those legends with their accomplishments as well as documents within Edo and outside Edo to back up your claims


Please no insult

davidnazee:
Chai.. that’s all ur can say? That was a very weak response, the weakest response so far from the Yorubas in the forum. Clap for ur self, u just won the award for weakest response.. Babaramota won award for the most moronic Yoruba in the forum, Y0ruba won award for the most foolish Yoruba scholar and now u don win too.
Yoruba never ceases to amaze.

We have our own legends but we don’t brag about them because it’s just legends. We prefer real things that can be verified..

BabaRamota is the biggest fool of them all. The foolishness of the guy is legendary.

Y0ruba is a historical magician. He sits in one small hut in Ife and conjures history like a herbalist.

This Olu317 is a clown. I have always had to laugh whenever I read his post. I enjoy his post more than any other Yoruba crook here. The guy practically runs a circus show. Lol...

rhektor:
Name those legends with their accomplishments as well as documents within Edo and outside Edo to back up your claims


Please no insult

Just back off before the sledge hammer falls on you.

Read through earlier posts and stop being lousy. I have said it before that Yoruba has no history. What you call history is what was put down by dubious and compromised people like Y0ruba. This is why there are several version, editions and revisions to your history. What you call history has been badly distorted and doctored.

Meanwhile, none of you is ready to address the serious issues I raised about what the number one king in yorubaland, Alaafin of Oyo said about the ooni. I really am going to get you all to the point where you would begin to ask yourselves why the ooni is even regarded as a king in yorubaland in the first place. Because the ooni being a slave boy of Oduduwa shouldn't have been made king. His being regarded as a king is an aberration.

Y0ruba:
1. Ugbo were not warriors. They were not at war with their fellow Ugbo.

2. Osangan Obamakin took over the throne after Oduduwa. Moremi came into the picture during the reign of Obalufon II. How was she Osangan Obamakin’s wife again? Smh

3. Osangan Obamakin was Oramfe’s comtemporary & not his son. Like Oramfe, he was one of the 16 elders of Ife. Oramfe’s children were Ososo, Bamideyi, Oluyoko, Orasusi & Orayigba.

4. Ile’ro or Ile Ero was the place captured Ugbo were later resettled. When they were first captured, they were locked up in Ile Ugbo, a place withon the palace walls existing today but they did not come to fight and neither should dey be prisoners in their own lands and they were taken to Ilero from where they moved back to their Iwinrin section.

5. Osangan Obamakin never left Ife. The person who led that group of Ugbo out of Ife was Obawinrin.


You see the absurdity you refer to as history? You seem to enjoy revisionism a lot.

These books below were written in the 80s & are far removed from politics-influenced revisionism of today.

All those crap you wrote together with those crappy and very poorly written books you snapshot are in conflict with what the Olugbo in council are saying. Mind you, the Olugbo has written a book on this subject, have you bothered getting the book and going through it? Those who have challenged the lies of ooni have gone to the extent of writing books to document the truth of the matter as it relates to them vis the book written by Oba of Benin and the one written by Olugbo of Ugbo. Yet in all these, ooni has not been able to pen down a single line in his own defense. This is because the ooni is an illiterate on historical matters as well as the fact that even the little he knows is something he dares not make public otherwise a revolt in Ife might happen.

The Ugbo have clearly stated that they constantly launched attacks on ife and you are here posting useless publications that have no currency from the perspective of objectivity.

Y0ruba:
As usual, no academic citations to back up your many tirades. I’ll say this the Alaafin, the Olugbo, you & your king have a lot of well researched works in History, Anthropology & Archeology that took almost the entirety of 20th century to contend with, a lot.

Any of your posts to me with no indicated references will get no response from me.

That's the coward in you talking.
If you were actually intellectual as you want us to believe, you would have known that research doesn't essentially entail digging into the past, because the past most times is fraught with errors, but about finding new things that hitherto weren't known.

Pluto since around 1930 had been on schools curriculum all over the world and had been taught to be the nineth planet. This was discarded in 2005 after new research confirmed that Pluto is not a planet but just an asteroid. Imagine using such publications between 1930 and 2005 for referencing and see how lost you would be. Those books you keep quoting are antiquated garbages. The book by the Oba of Benin is first hand source information on this matter and remains the most clearly illustrated version of the story of Oduduwa.

Though, these your magical books might continue to serve your purpose within your immediate interest of rewriting and distorting Yoruba history. Good luck with that.

davidnazee:
No, you guys were ruled over 500yrs.. if the denial makes u feel good then keep on deny it, I don’t have a problem with ur feel good tactics..
I don’t know if Eastern Yoruba had up to 1000 settlements at that time but if it did then surely Benin conquered all..

And as for the coward statement you made, every Nigerian knows who are the cowards.. and the cowardly name attributed to you yorubas didn’t start recently nor was it Edos that started calling you cowards.. Yorubas have been known to be cowards since the beginning of time.
Imagine as soon as you hear Benin is coming full towns evacuate instead of standing to fight. You run and scatter in different directions.. some run to the mountains others run into the bushes and some in process of running fall inside hole and die there, many drowned in rivers while fleeing the advancing Benin armies.
Una weak sha..

dabidnaze e pain u well if u like scream coward louder than the ibo man it won’t change that fact that the people u earlier attacked and won with the use of modern warfare came back right to the heart of ur kingdom and conquer ur land led by the courageous ogedengbe Benin boys bow to their knee and beg the ekiti warriors to have mercy I have never seen any bother as weak as that u can’t even fight back shior I spit in Benin weaklings.

steveosaz:
Guy, if you are using a smart phone to type all these crap, Google dictionary is just one click away. Stop shaming yo-ROBBER people now haba!

So at your age, you don't know the meaning of 'marched on'? No Yorubastard tribe could have ever marched on the great Benin, not possible, never recorded in history.

Yoruba has effectively suffered colonization twice at least on official records. The Edos first colonized Yoruba which lasted several centuries while at the same time, maintaining diplomatic and trade relations with the whites(Portuguese). And with Portuguese guns, Bini established its dominion and chokehold on Yoruba people. The evidence of this colonization is clearly seen in the cultures, customs and dressing patterns of the people of Owo who share striking similarities with their Edo lords and masters.
Second colonization of Yoruba came from the British. You already know that story.

We were suzerains over you and your territory for ages. Bow to your kings!!!

e pain the steveosaz well ogedengbe lead forces suyanized ur Benin people well and till today like a good colonial people u bear Yoruba like Nigerians bear English name u worship Yoruba god like sango like Nigerians worship British god and so many more that’s the real effect of colonization if i have ever seen one.

steveosaz:
That's the coward in you talking.
If you were actually intellectual as you want us to believe, you would have known that research doesn't essentially entail digging into the past, because the past most times is fraught with errors, but about finding new things that hitherto weren't known.

Pluto since around 1930 had been on schools curriculum all over the world and had been taught to be the nineth planet. This was discarded in 2005 after new research confirmed that Pluto is not a planet but just an asteroid. Imagine using such publications between 1930 and 2005 for referencing and see how lost you would be. Those books you keep quoting are antiquated garbages. The book by the Oba of Benin is first hand source information on this matter and remains the most clearly illustrated version of the story of Oduduwa.

Though, these your magical books might continue to serve your purpose within your immediate interest of rewriting and distorting Yoruba history. Good luck with that.

Historical Research is the systematic collection and evaluation of data to describe, explain, and understand actions or events that occurred sometime in the past.

http://research.iaun.ac.ir/pd/shafiee-nahrkhalaji/pdfs/UploadFile_2857.pdf


You are a complete mo.r0n.

Quote me no further, goodbye.

davidnazee:
Abeg which history does Yoruba have? Which caucasians dedicated their lives to study Yoruba history? If u must know, the only way the little that is known about Yoruba was done using the “question and answer” method.. there was nothing else to use to find out about Yoruba only oral accounts which is always not credible.

Do u know why the British rushed to colonize Yoruba? I will tell u..
When the Europeans came the Yorubas were a broken and traumatized people, devastated by internal conflicts and external aggression from forces like the Benin and Fulanis..
The Yorubas were killing and selling themselves into slavery, the British afraid that the French may use the disorder and disorganization in the Yoruba race as an excuse to claim Yoruba as their colony quickly rushed to colonize the region.
The British out of pity and their selfish interests decided to save the Yorubas from themselves and from Benin Kingdom..
Now you know a little bit of your history..

oyo fell to British in 1896 while Benin fell in 1897 but Yoruba like egba we’re serve governing and their king recognized by the British under the (eug) egba united government till the amalgamation. British took control of all Benin land by 1896 and impose their government on them completely to save them from ekiti warriors while Yoruba like the egba were still serve governing so I guess it’s the benin the British rush to colonize now u know a bit of ur own history. No need to thank me

Y0ruba:
http://research.iaun.ac.ir/pd/shafiee-nahrkhalaji/pdfs/UploadFile_2857.pdf


You are a complete mo.r0n.

Quote me no further, goodbye.

that guy man lol

Moneywomen17:
oyo fell to British in 1896 while Benin fell in 1897 but Yoruba like egba we’re serve governing and their king recognized by the British under the (eug) egba united government till the amalgamation. British took control of all Benin land by 1896 and impose their government on them completely to save them from ekiti warriors while Yoruba like the egba were still serve governing so I guess it’s the benin the British rush to colonize now u know a bit of ur own history. No need to thank me

Moneywoman you make me laugh anytime I read ur clownish posts.. I don’t like calling you slowpoke even though you keep acting like one..
Every article worldwide describes Benin Kingdom as the only existing and independent African Kingdom in the 18th century.. The only Kingdom to have retained its independence from European colonialists.
I guess you don’t understand the meaning of that that’s why u keep making ur rubbish statements..

Y0ruba:
http://research.iaun.ac.ir/pd/shafiee-nahrkhalaji/pdfs/UploadFile_2857.pdf


You are a complete mo.r0n.

Quote me no further, goodbye.

Again, the coward in you keeps playing out. Aren't you just one headless chicken?

You don't have to run away so early because I still have a lot of whup ass in store for you.

You ain't a historian, you are a conjurer, a magician.

Moneywomen17:
e pain the steveosaz well ogedengbe lead forces suyanized ur Benin people well and till today like a good colonial people u bear Yoruba like Nigerians bear English name u worship Yoruba god like sango like Nigerians worship British god and so many more that’s the real effect of colonization if i have ever seen one.

While you guys keep defending and denying Benin conquest and suzerainty over the Yorubas do you see any Edo man talking about Ogedengbe? We don’t bother about that because it never happened. Even if u go to the village you claim the coward ogedengbe invaded they will tell u they have no recollection of it..
Ogedengbe sneaked unnoticed and attacked some farm settlements on our northwest border and quickly fled when he was informed of an advancing Benin army..

Reminder for you: Great Benin conquered and ruled your race for at least 500yrs.

steveosaz:
Again, the coward in you keeps playing out. Aren't you just one headless chicken?

You don't have to run away so early because I still have a lot of whup ass in store for you.

You ain't a historian, you are a conjurer, a magician.

Who dash am magician? That suegbe?
He is a coward like his kind..

Moneywomen17:
e pain the steveosaz well ogedengbe lead forces suyanized ur Benin people well and till today like a good colonial people u bear Yoruba like Nigerians bear English name u worship Yoruba god like sango like Nigerians worship British god and so many more that’s the real effect of colonization if i have ever seen one.

Everyone is at liberty to bear whatever they wish OK. But let's even use your own maxim, are you indirectly telling us that Yorubas who now bear typically Hausa names like Usman, Salihu, Garba are doing so because your culture is not as sophisticated as Hausa culture?

This is your litmus test, let's hear from you, slavebuoy.

Moneywomen17:
dabidnaze e pain u well if u like scream coward louder than the ibo man it won’t change that fact that the people u earlier attacked and won with the use of modern warfare came back right to the heart of ur kingdom and conquer ur land led by the courageous ogedengbe Benin boys bow to their knee and beg the ekiti warriors to have mercy I have never seen any bother as weak as that u can’t even fight back shior I spit in Benin weaklings.

Lol... and yet the Yorubas are the universally acclaimed cowards and weaklings.. abeg answer your generational name, no give another person..

davidnazee:
Chai.. that’s all ur can say? That was a very weak response, the weakest response so far from the Yorubas in the forum. Clap for ur self, u just won the award for weakest response.. Babaramota won award for the most moronic Yoruba in the forum, Y0ruba won award for the most foolish Yoruba scholar and now u don win too.
Yoruba never ceases to amaze.

We have our own legends but we don’t brag about them because it’s just legends. We prefer real things that can be verified..

I dont blame you for your ignorance but your Oba Erediuwa that conjure a classified fable on Yoruba history in your huts kingdom. Little do you know that David Van Nyendael,Olfert Dapper wrote about Bini declination.Your smallish city was bewitched with retrogressive knowledge of human sacrifice and slave trade that even depopulated Bini. Is Bini a kingdom or a community? Whatever you like, call it ,but the truth is that ,you are a bloody irrelevant group as at today. Do you know why? You lost you touch with your source. Even Oba Bini, even threatened your Ashewos and others with Juju. This only showed that you're indeed a land of vexation . Bloody set of Yoruba followers, that learned about Olokun ,Ogun, Ifa etc from Yorubas. Even itsé is a borrowed word from asé ,which has no etymology in Edo language. I mock you and your ignorance.

rhektor:
Name those legends with their accomplishments as well as documents within Edo and outside Edo to back up your claims


Please no insult

Are you babaramota’s cousin? Because he is the only one who make the dumbest and most moronic statement like this..
do u know the meaning of legends?
We celebrate and touts our heroes not our legends..
so you can continue to sing about your legend of the man descending from the skies in chains or of the man that can draw fire and thunder from the heavens it’s ur business..

steveosaz:
Everyone is at liberty to bear whatever they wish OK. But let's even use your own maxim, are you indirectly telling us that Yorubas who now bear typically Hausa names like Usman, Salihu, Garba are doing so because your culture is not as sophisticated as Hausa culture?

This is your litmus test, let's hear from you, slavebuoy.

dumbass like u who told u name like usman is Hausa name. Those are Islamic name dumbass soon u will tell us that buhari is Fulani name or that sanusi is Fulani name too. Ur people bear full Yoruba name with only Yoruba interpretations coz of colonial history of Yoruba over u simple. E pain u well