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davidnazee:
hahahaha.. e dey pain you say Yoruba means BASTARDS and IM-BECILES.. I didn't invent it.. blame the Hausas who invented it and blame your weak and cowardly ancestors who accepted it.

Moneywomen17:
out of all the king u mentioned a refrence was only made about the dejis the rest only happened in ur imagination. Ogedengbe conquer almost ur own town and reach ur capital till ur king has to appease him that’s what a conqueror his. Ogedengbe oko edo

davidnazee:
Universally accepted fact is Great Benin Kingdom conquered and ruled the Yorubas for about 500years..
Benin Kingdom was more advanced than any Yoruba Kingdom.
Oduduwa is an Edo prince.
Better still for us Edo is that the whole world knows this fact as witnessed and documented in early times, unlike the Yoruba history that just started yesterday.

But in this thread facts don't matter.. The Yorubas will not accept the truth about their past as a conquered and subjugated tribe.. So lets leave facts out of it and just stick to name calling and insults.. I have abundance of that for the Yorubas.

For the Yorubas please tell me, why does other Nigerian tribes see you people as a very Useless and Cowardly tribe?
Nobody fears the Yorubas at all..

davidnazee:
Really only Dejis.. haba Yoruba and lies are like brothers and sisters..
Well I have posted some sweet information below for you.

Ewi Idagunmodo (1696--1710) beheaded in 1710 by Benin for failing to pay tributes.
Ewi Okinbaloye Aritawekun (1710-1722) beheaded in 1722
Ewi Amono Ola (1722-1762) beheaded in 1762
Ewi Afunbiowo (1762-1781) beheaded in 1781
Ewi Akulojuorun (1781-1808) assassinated by Benin for political reasons
Ewi Aroloye (1808-1836) who reigned at Ado beheaded for his part in uprising and revolt against Benin rule
Oluyin of Uyin sentenced to death by hanging in 1841 for his part in uprising against Benin
Oba of Ado killed for his role in compromising Benin suzerainty in Ado-Ekiti

and many more which I cannot remember now but will update you on them as soon as I can

Moneywomen17:
the record that is there shows that the name has no Hausa origin except to edo fools and ibo fools too. Post ur research any one that shows the name Yoruba has any Hausa origin u won’t cause na fraud but na Yoruba name ur land ile bini cuz so long oranmiyan don know so u boys na angry folks and till today u bear such name.

Obalufon:
you don start again ..Nobody fear yoruba yet we control Nigeria..the day Yoruba say we are done with Nigerian the country will break immediately

davidnazee:
Okay see what your learned Yoruba brother found when he researched the origin of the name Yoruba.. He even confirmed that it on record in "European" archives.. Even Europeans knows meaning of Yoruba. Thank God he no lie like una. He even compared your acceptance of the name to the Igbos rejection of the derogatory word Hausas tried to give them. Shame on you Yorubas.

[b]"I asked a lot of people to define Yoruba, nobody had a clue so I decided to return to history and I delved into what Yoruba scholars of the past centuries had written. Slowly I began to unravel the mystery of our name.
The first hint I got was from an ordinary search which spouted Yoruba. What does that mean?? I carried on, I moved on to the always ready Yoruba dictionary written by Samuel Ajayi Crowther which defines ‘Yoruba’ as a bastard and deceitful person.

Another came from the one I found on a scholarly written journal of Dr Taiwo Ayanbolu who insisted Yoruba is a name derived from Hausa language which means deceit. He claimed he found the definition at York Museum in England dating to the 19th century.
Before I go further here, I would like to stress how the name came aboard. It has been recorded that the Hausa-Fulani who had been in contact with the Yoruba even before the rise of Oyo Empire had for some reasons chosen to call us Yoruba, or Yaribansa.

The Igbos had cleansed themselves off ‘Yinmiri’, a name the Hausa-Fulani had technically given to them. The igbos have today refuted Yinmiri to be a derogatory word, however, the reverse is the case for the Yoruba. From findings I have made, Yaribansa is a Fulani word meaning Bastard. An extremely derogatory word in Yoruba discourse.
I read one of Professor Ade Ajayi’s book “Yoruba Warfare in the Nineteenth century” where he insisted that during the indirect rule era, it was necessary for the imperialists to give a unique name to the entire towns and people who spoke Yoruba language.

Somehow, they settled for Yoruba. Yoruba is a deviation of Yoruba which the Yoruba people of that century rejected. The Ijebu, Ijesa and Egba rejected this name vehemently but because during the Kiriji war (the Yoruba civil war) where the collapse of Oyo Empire commenced and the signalling factor the imperialists used to prompt the rule over Oyo from covers. The name Yoruba was foisted on Oyo and Ibadan mainly on documents and slowly the name Yoruba was enshrined in our culture and hence, our appellation.

Research shows that the Egba were the last to accept Yoruba as their appellation, reason coming from facts emanating from the first newspaper published in Yorubaland in 1859, goes: Iwe Iroyin Fun Ara Egba Ati Yoruba. This indicates that the Egba refused the name Yoruba as at 1859.

Furthermore, I have read the Odu Ifa and I have familiarised myself with many Ogede Ofo, Iwure and Ewi of the past generations and I have never heard where we were referred to as Yoruba, rather, as Omo Kaaro Ojiire, Omo Oduduwa or Omoluabi.

I am penning this for us to know the origin of the word Yoruba, it is a bitter pill to swallow especially now that the name has travelled far and wide, should we try to augment our appellation Yoruba? certainly too late to make any sort of modification. We might as well just carry on dealing with it.

Source & Written By: Bola Olalekan
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Moneywomen17:
shut up there fool another lie made popular by u and ur fellow edo fools. The name Yoruba was first written down in the treatise written by the Songhai scholar Ahmed baba way back in the 16th century when he visited oyo empire to refer to the people of oyo. The oyo told him they were Yoruba and that’s what he wrote down not the other way around. U tell strangers who u are cuz strangers do not name u. Yoruba is only a degrading name to a edo fool like u.

Moneywomen17:
like I said another davidnaze source no refrence to where he read it from lol just fraud. If I ask for link to the place u read it from u will start cursing me men edo boys like u are illiterate I swear. Lol

davidnazee:
Which Nigeria does Yoruba control? U are really funny..
anyways you don read my post about the origin of Yoruba name? let me know what u think.. no cry oo

Obalufon:
..Teach this slowpoke ...yoruba were literate people ..since 13 century were writing in Arabic ajami .

davidnazee:
see your source.. http://www.ekimogundescendant.org/the-true-meaning-of-the-word-yoruba-2/

davidnazee:
Literate but yet submissive abi.. whats the point of your knowledge if you are eternally submissive?

davidnazee:
If you like promote your art works, its your duty as a Yoruba to do that.. But it doesn`t change anything.. Edo arts are more regarded and revered and renowned than Yoruba arts.. Apart from maybe archaeologists, common people don`t know and have never heard of Yoruba arts..
Edo arts are regarded to be valuable than any Yoruba arts.

davidnazee:
Really only Dejis.. haba Yoruba and lies are like brothers and sisters..
Well I have posted some sweet information below for you.

Ewi Idagunmodo (1696--1710) beheaded in 1710 by Benin for failing to pay tributes.
Ewi Okinbaloye Aritawekun (1710-1722) beheaded in 1722
Ewi Amono Ola (1722-1762) beheaded in 1762
Ewi Afunbiowo (1762-1781) beheaded in 1781
Ewi Akulojuorun (1781-1808) assassinated by Benin for political reasons
Ewi Aroloye (1808-1836) who reigned at Ado beheaded for his part in uprising and revolt against Benin rule
Oluyin of Uyin sentenced to death by hanging in 1841 for his part in uprising against Benin
Oba of Ado killed for his role in compromising Benin suzerainty in Ado-Ekiti

and many more which I cannot remember now but will update you on them as soon as I can

davidnazee:
Okay see what your learned Yoruba brother found when he researched the origin of the name Yoruba.. He even confirmed that it on record in "European" archives.. Even Europeans knows meaning of Yoruba. Thank God he no lie like una. He even compared your acceptance of the name to the Igbos rejection of the derogatory word Hausas tried to give them. Shame on you Yorubas.

[b][b]"I asked a lot of people to define Yoruba, nobody had a clue so I decided to return to history and I delved into what Yoruba scholars of the past centuries had written. Slowly I began to unravel the mystery of our name.
The first hint I got was from an ordinary search which spouted Yoruba. What does that mean?? I carried on, I moved on to the always ready Yoruba dictionary written by Samuel Ajayi Crowther which defines ‘Yoruba’ as a bastard and deceitful person.

Another came from the one I found on a scholarly written journal of Dr Taiwo Ayanbolu who insisted Yoruba is a name derived from Hausa language which means deceit. He claimed he found the definition at York Museum in England dating to the 19th century.
Before I go further here, I would like to stress how the name came aboard. It has been recorded that the Hausa-Fulani who had been in contact with the Yoruba even before the rise of Oyo Empire had for some reasons chosen to call us Yoruba, or Yaribansa.

The Igbos had cleansed themselves off ‘Yinmiri’, a name the Hausa-Fulani had technically given to them. The igbos have today refuted Yinmiri to be a derogatory word, however, the reverse is the case for the Yoruba. From findings I have made, Yaribansa is a Fulani word meaning Bastard. An extremely derogatory word in Yoruba discourse.
I read one of Professor Ade Ajayi’s book “Yoruba Warfare in the Nineteenth century” where he insisted that during the indirect rule era, it was necessary for the imperialists to give a unique name to the entire towns and people who spoke Yoruba language.

Somehow, they settled for Yoruba. Yoruba is a deviation of Yoruba which the Yoruba people of that century rejected. The Ijebu, Ijesa and Egba rejected this name vehemently but because during the Kiriji war (the Yoruba civil war) where the collapse of Oyo Empire commenced and the signalling factor the imperialists used to prompt the rule over Oyo from covers. The name Yoruba was foisted on Oyo and Ibadan mainly on documents and slowly the name Yoruba was enshrined in our culture and hence, our appellation.

Research shows that the Egba were the last to accept Yoruba as their appellation, reason coming from facts emanating from the first newspaper published in Yorubaland in 1859, goes: Iwe Iroyin Fun Ara Egba Ati Yoruba. This indicates that the Egba refused the name Yoruba as at 1859.

Furthermore, I have read the Odu Ifa and I have familiarised myself with many Ogede Ofo, Iwure and Ewi of the past generations and I have never heard where we were referred to as Yoruba, rather, as Omo Kaaro Ojiire, Omo Oduduwa or Omoluabi.

I am penning this for us to know the origin of the word Yoruba, it is a bitter pill to swallow especially now that the name has travelled far and wide, should we try to augment our appellation Yoruba? certainly too late to make any sort of modification. We might as well just carry on dealing with it.

Source & Written By: Bola Olalekan
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Obalufon:
look how stupid you are.. you can't even take your time to watch the video before spitting trash..your forefather said they learnt the art from ife....

Moorish:
That is a compelling read, david

I am impressed with the depth of your research, never seen this before

I never felt comfortable with the name Yoruba

A name without meaning in my own tongue

I remain an Oyo

Respectfully

True royalty

Ife is also a royal state, and my brothers east of Oyo should adopt the name

We are related linguistically and probably by bloodlines, yes

But independent

Do you know not all Yorubas claim ancestry from odduduwa?

There are factions

P.S I also know davidnazee does not mean the words he says; He is only defending his culture best way he knows how

All is fair in love and war

Fire for fire

P.S My South-Western Nigerian Kinsmen....

Dead the beef

Build bridges

We need the brothers in the south more than those in the North as at RIGHT NOW CURRENT STATE OF AFFAIRS

I say that as a so called "Yoruba" with northern blood

If you know, you know

Moneywomen17:
Bleep out here man ur a big dumbass nobody cares of ur referee position u gave urself if u want peace ignore this thread and go to sleep boy.

Moorish:
I know I am no dumbass

My educational, professional and financial achievements give me that confidence

Not to sound proud and conceited but..

You tested me.. so..

Do not be proud bro

The hateful one is the one who suffers

Moneywomen17:
trash go and sleep boy nobody appointed u referee if u are not happy about this thread cover ur eyes and go to sleep boy there is nothing called south

Moorish:
You are my brother

Relax

I know the north more than you do

My mum is northern

They see us as an ever available and willing appendage

To destabilize the south

The other tribes in the south are easier to dialogue with if push comes to shove

How many houses in the West have been burnt by Igbos?

I was born in the Edo territory and I was oppressed, we fought, we bled, and we broke bread

There was love in all of it

The north's love is purely conditional on you bowing or being islamically inclined

You truly do not understand the mess we Yorubas are in

davidnazee:
Pained and frustrated fellow.. maybe you should give all Nigerians that Education because all Nigerians know that your Hausa/Fulani masters labelled you Yoruba (meaning bastards and im-beciles).. I wonder why the British even acknowledge that name knowing what it stands for.. abi they agreed that you guys are really worthless?

Moneywomen17:
shut the Bleep up the north the Igbo all of them are all Yoruba enemy. I know the north well myself and I also know the rest of the tribe too as well. Go to the average street of Yoruba and tell me the Yoruba that “love” northerner thesame north we call aboki and gworo chewer. Only politics bring Yoruba and north together and until 2015 yoruba has made no such alliance with the north check well the history of Nigeria if u are too dumb to know majority of when north rule they mostly have an ibo vice not Yoruba. U do not know the north more than me nor do u know the ibo and other tribe more than me yoruba are in a mess but the solution remain with Yoruba not some enemies called “southern tribe”

Moneywomen17:
shut the Bleep up the north the Igbo all of them are all Yoruba enemy. I know the north well myself and I also know the rest of the tribe too as well. Go to the average street of Yoruba and tell me the Yoruba that “love” northerner thesame north we call aboki and gworo chewer. Only politics bring Yoruba and north together and until 2015 yoruba has made no such alliance with the north check well the history of Nigeria if u are too dumb to know majority of when north rule they mostly have an ibo vice not Yoruba. U do not know the north more than me nor do u know the ibo and other tribe more than me yoruba are in a mess but the solution remain with Yoruba not some enemies called “southern tribe”

Obalufon:
na jealousy go kill you na

Moorish:
You made some fantastic points gee

Yes, self determination remains Yoruba's last hope HOWEVER....

I say south because we want thesame things

State police

Secular state

Resource control

Women's rights

Western Education

Peace to you my bro and I never meant any harm

And I am truly sorry if any of my words did offend you

Moorish:
Do you brothers ever ponder on the universal beauty of the black woman?

How does she feel seeing her god the black man subservient to a man he is superior to both mentally and physically?

Just because you gods do not know how to unite and build bridges

For 2000 years us and our fathers getting f.ucked in the ass by mutants we civilized

Wake up black man

Moneywomen17:
check well during Jonathan confab ibo a south did not want regionalism there is nothin called south. Yoruba are oyo on your own and only Yoruba can fight their own fight

Moneywomen17:
meaning