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davidnazee:
Mugu Olu.. The Year is irrelevant. Was it the Aworis that told the Portuguese Lagos belongs to Benin Kingdom?
Wow you are so Myopic and dumb, very dumb.. how can u miss the point I was making??

As usual, always turning to abusive words for escape means. O.k ,show me ,where in any scholarly work, was said that Bini own Lagos? Bloody liar. The same way Bini claim Ga of Ghana is from Edo,right? In fact, Ashipa got to Lagos around 17th century, so how did Bini occupied Lagos in 14th/15th century? Have you no knowledge of history?

davidnazee:
Mumu like you.. Which Hoax? Did you ask those people you mentioned between Ekhaladeran story and Oduduwa descending from the heavens which one they believe to be true?
While you there like the mumu you are wondering why a father will kill his son, why not wonder why the Yorubas are still using their women and children for rituals? Why is that so prevalent in the Yoruba society? Everyday you hear story of yoruba people killing women, children, using them for sacrifice.. ever wondered about badoo?
Do u really think Nigerians are stupid?

FYI: Ekhaladeran is Oduduwa.. and Everybody believes it.

You came in riding high on the ekaladheran myth. You used to fill pages with nothing but the legendary stories of your hero.

To help you I posted a narration on the life of ekaladheran. I took it from an Edo website in order to be sure im using the authentic from the horse's mouth.

I dissected the retard and his dimwit father.

Following that Ive asked you, a believer of this hoax, several times to explain some phenomenon that are humanly impractical but which from Edo point of view is the proof that tie the ekaladheran to Oduduwa of Ife.

You dodged everyone of the questions I put to you.


If you are ready to answer them now I can bring the questions up to you again. In fact in the space of time between new things are discovered which should shed more light that ekaladheran could not ever have gone to Ife because his dimwit father was also banished from entering Ife.

Of all the people of Nigeria Yoruba is the only one you will engage online in a debate and at the end you will be thoroughly schooled and know things you never knew before.

This is because we argue on facts, and facts lead to discovery of new knowledge.

Olu317:
As usual, always turning to abusive words for escape means. O.k ,show me ,where in any scholarly work, was said that Bini own Lagos? Bloody liar. The same way Bini claim Ga of Ghana is from Edo,right? In fact, Ashipa got to Lagos around 17th century, so how did Bini occupied Lagos in 14th/15th century? Have you no knowledge of history?

These people have practically written everybody's history on their behalf and inserted themselves as primary founder or kingmaker of the culture.

Type Igala, type Nupe, type Oduduwa, type Itsekiri...and you will see an Edo content.

It is so bad even Esan is claiming they own Lagos.

BabaRamota1980:
The political system in Nigeria demands a militancy approach to remain respected and left alone without bother. You have to demonstrate insanity and readiness for mass murder against your opponents. Unfortunately Yoruba acts as if we are amongst civilized peoples like us who acknowledge diplomacy as a viable tool for conflict resolution. Nigeria only understands machette and guns as tools for conflict resolution. In this respect Yoruba is behind and disillusioned.

After what yanminri did to them in the war Edo learnt not to fvk with Ibo.

Nobody fvks with the Northerner.

Even Ijaw gets respect and people back off.


This simple social relationship of "you fvck with me I kill you" does not need a university degree or a dissertation paper to see and conclude.

When others say Yoruba is a coward they know in real sense we are not....but the interpretation of that is like saying " Yoruba, when are you going to kill us?"


Please permit to use the following graphic to illustrate my point.

You have been cooking history here all the way long. But the thing is; The civil wat was never an all out tribal war. While it was tribal for the Igbo's, to the rest of Nigeria (which the Midwest belongs), it wasn't so. So when the Igbo's invaded the Midwest and proclaimed a non existent country that lasted barely 48 hrs, it would have been totally nonsensical for the Midwesterners to Marshal local forces to dislodge them, but rather wait for the federal troops to do the dislodgement themselves just as was in the case of Ore. Use your common sense sometimes.

Olu317:
As usual, always turning to abusive words for escape means. O.k ,show me ,where in any scholarly work, was said that Bini own Lagos? Bloody liar. The same way Bini claim Ga of Ghana is from Edo,right? In fact, Ashipa got to Lagos around 17th century, so how did Bini occupied Lagos in 14th/15th century? Have you no knowledge of history?

Sometimes I wonder if your denial is out of jealousy or you truly do not know.. if you truly don’t know then u lack basic knowledge..
Benin founded Lagos. The Aworis were never in Lagos. The area the Aworis occupied was on the outskirts of modern day Lagos. It is later the Aworis area was included as part of modern day Lagos.
Please take time to do research and also use wisdom to understand some basic things..

BabaRamota1980:
These people have practically written everybody's history on their behalf and inserted themselves as primary founder or kingmaker of the culture.

Type Igala, type Nupe, type Oduduwa, type Itsekiri...and you will see an Edo content.

It is so bad even Esan is claiming they own Lagos.

I believe you were referring to the yorubas here.

davidnazee:
So you mean a slave sits ahead of all Nigeria traditional rulers..
Does Oba of Benin attend those meetings?

Leave Benin witchery alone.. wonder why your people are still backward and engaging in human sacrifices.. using Yoruba women and children for rituals.. why is that so Babaramota?

Oba must not attend meetings...
Oba must not stand in meetings...
Oba must not show face in public...
Oba must not blink in public...
Oba does not go on transfer...

steveosaz:
I believe you were referring to the yorubas here.

I said type it in google search. Come back and report your find.

If you cant find it ill help you, with screenshots.

BabaRamota1980:
You came in riding high on the ekaladheran myth. You used to fill pages with nothing but the legendary stories of your hero.

To help you I posted a narration on the life of ekaladheran. I took it from an Edo website in order to be sure im using the authentic from the horse's mouth.

I dissected the retard and his dimwit father.

Following that Ive asked you, a believer of this hoax, several times to explain some phenomenon that are humanly impractical but which from Edo point of view is the proof that tie the ekaladheran to Oduduwa of Ife.

You dodged everyone of the questions I put to you.


If you are ready to answer them now I can bring the questions up to you again. In fact in the space of time between new things are discovered which should shed more light that ekaladheran could not ever have gone to Ife because his dimwit father was also banished from entering Ife.

Of all the people of Nigeria Yoruba is the only one you will engage online in a debate and at the end you will be thoroughly schooled and know things you never knew before.

This is because we argue on facts, and facts lead to discovery of new knowledge.

You argue on fact lol. Your arguments is based on myth and legends.
If you know what fact is you won’t deny that Benin conquered and ruled Yoruba.
You won’t deny Benin was the mightiest and only independent kingdom in the 18th century.

Anyways keep riding your wave of delusion using your myths and legends as your paddle.
Ekhaladeran is Oduduwa and he did not descend from the skies with chains.

davidnazee:
Sometimes I wonder if your denial is out of jealousy or you truly do not know.. if you truly don’t know then u lack basic knowledge..
Benin founded Lagos. The Aworis were never in Lagos. The area the Aworis occupied was on the outskirts of modern day Lagos. It is later the Aworis area was included as part of modern day Lagos.
Please take time to do research and also use wisdom to understand some basic things..

So if Benin founded Lagos why did you have a king? Who were you ruling over, sea animals?

BabaRamota1980:
These people have practically written everybody's history on their behalf and inserted themselves as primary founder or kingmaker of the culture.

Type Igala, type Nupe, type Oduduwa, type Itsekiri...and you will see an Edo content.

It is so bad even Esan is claiming they own Lagos.

Do you mind Edos online liars? They always look for cheap glory,where there is non. Do you know that ADA/UDA that is common in Yoruba land,which special ones are inscribed on and given to princes , crept into the Bini lexicon/language? Guess what? Only Oba Bini use ADA(Scimitar always carried before the Oba) . This showed he is a foreigner . Edos beware.Yoruba own Biniland.

davidnazee:
You argue on fact lol. Your arguments is based on myth and legends.
If you know what fact is you won’t deny that Benin conquered and ruled Yoruba.
You won’t deny Benin was the mightiest and only independent kingdom in the 18th century.

Anyways keep riding your wave of delusion using your myths and legends as your paddle.
Ekhaladeran is Oduduwa and he did not descend from the skies with chains.

You do know that your Ogiso succession was not hereditary, correct? Also, an Ogiso rule is not lifetime, he can be removed and replaced. Some Ogisos were recalled from throne.

The complaint against an Ogiso is sent to Ife. The King in Ife rules on a recall. The recalled Ogiso returns to Ife. What they do to them in Ife is unclear.

The Ogiso is a class of Chiefdom that rule by proxy of Oduduwa's covenant.

So how could the son of the last Ogiso in line go to Ife and become a founding King?

Its impractical!

I will stop here. I want to engage you so im not going to say all i need to say in one post. I really need this to be a conversation and with goal to completely discredit Edo hoax.

This is coming from the Oluwo himself.

Olu317:
Do you mind Edos online liars? They always look for cheap glory,where there is non. Do you know that ADA/UDA that is common in Yoruba land,which special ones are inscribed on and given to princes , crept into the Bini lexicon/language? Guess what? Only Oba Bini use ADA(Scimitar always carried before the Oba) . This showed he is a foreigner . Edos beware.Yoruba own Biniland.

Ahah, i know now.

Ado became Udo in their tongue.
Oko became Eko
Agodo became Igodo

I go teach their history to them if they dare me.

They dont have meaning for Oba, no meaning for Igodo the pricipal symbols of culture that brought greatness to their land but they want talk and challenge the people who civilized them.

BabaRamota1980:
You do know that your Ogiso succession was not hereditary, correct? Also, an Ogiso rule is not lifetime, he can be removed and replaced. Some Ogisos were recalled from throne.

The complaint against an Ogiso is sent to Ife. The King in Ife rules on a recall. The recalled Ogiso returns to Ife. What they do to them in Ife is unclear.

The Ogiso is a class of Chiefdom that rule by proxy of Oduduwa's covenant.

So how could the son of the last Ogiso in line go to Ife and become a founding King?

Its impractical!

I will stop here. I want to engage you so im not going to say all i need to say in one post. I really need this to be a conversation and with goal to completely discredit Edo hoax.

You are totally unschoolable! Like Moorish rightly noted, you are an online robotic troll.

With this latest buffet of lies and comedy, You should be pitied.

davidnazee:
You argue on fact lol. Your arguments is based on myth and legends.
If you know what fact is you won’t deny that Benin conquered and ruled Yoruba.
You won’t deny Benin was the mightiest and only independent kingdom in the 18th century.

Anyways keep riding your wave of delusion using your myths and legends as your paddle.
Ekhaladeran is Oduduwa and he did not descend from the skies with chains.

Stop wasting your time with baba RAM ota. The "ram" in his name is what is dictating his reasoning. You can never make sense when arguing with a mad man.

steveosaz:
You are totally unschoolable! Like Moorish rightly noted, you are an online robotic troll.

With this latest buffet of lies and comedy, You should be pitied.

You are accepting defeat if this is your response to my claim that ekladheran is a myth.

Dont hide behind others for cover. This has nothing to do with Moorish say or didnt say.

Im even lenient and offered to engage you in a conversation instead of flooding you with records and facts.

David ekladheran, you cant give up at this point. Come on....

steveosaz:
This is coming from the Oluwo himself.

Just look at your ignorance. This was what Late professor Leo Frobenuis wrote about yoruba .. He said, cultural practices amongst North Africans are similar to those of the Yorubas and he thinks that it was easier to travel from North Africa to Yorubaland than from Egypt to Yorubaland (Frobenius 1968:186–204). Frobenius says that the Yoruba and the Atlantic culture share:
• Water storage construction systems. He emphasised that the style of houses constructed by the Yorubas was similar to those used by the Etruscans, Moroccans and Algerians whereby the Impluvium is built in the centre of the house whilst apartments with verandas are built in a rectangular form.
• The construction of their houses. Yorubas construct houses with ridge roofs that are similar to those in North Africa.
• The colour and form of bows and arrows used by the Yorubas are similar to those in Morocco.
• The North African hand loom, unknown in the Sudan, is found amongst Yoruba woman.
• The drum shape and other articles peculiar to North Africa are not found in the Sudan, but are found in Yorubland.
• The existence of the ‘Templum ’, amongst both the Yorubas and North Africans whereby houses are built round a temple or sacred building; even in towns, houses were generally built around sacred buildings.

You hate Yorubas at your own peril. Have you no knowledge of history ? Even the knot in Naira isnt from the North but From Yorubaland. But dont digress the issue? Anyway, If Oluwo was a fulani,then ,know Oba Bini's ancestors, that rule you are Fulanis

Olu317:
Do you mind Edos online liars? They always look for cheap glory,where there is non. Do you know that ADA/UDA that is common in Yoruba land,which special ones are inscribed on and given to princes , crept into the Bini lexicon/language? Guess what? Only Oba Bini use ADA(Scimitar always carried before the Oba) . This showed he is a foreigner . Edos beware.Yoruba own Biniland.

Like I said earlier you are a cheap mugu.. so igbos that answer Ada as name got it from Yoruba?

davidnazee:
Like I said earlier you are a cheap mugu.. so igbos that answer Ada as name got it from Yoruba?

Aaahh...
I told you, you have a genetic link to Owodo.

I cant believe my eyez

steveosaz:
You have been cooking history here all the way long. But the thing is; The civil wat was never an all out tribal war. While it was tribal for the Igbo's, to the rest of Nigeria (which the Midwest belongs), it wasn't so. So when the Igbo's invaded the Midwest and proclaimed a non existent country that lasted barely 48 hrs, it would have been totally nonsensical for the Midwesterners to Marshal local forces to dislodge them, but rather wait for the federal troops to do the dislodgement themselves just as was in the case of Ore. Use your common sense sometimes.

Federal troop indeed! Benjamin Adekunle and newly recruited Yoruba fought. Go check Tell magazine interview he granted in late 1990s. Don't digress, Below screenshot was what Edos claim.
Sorry is your case.

steveosaz:
You have been cooking history here all the way long. But the thing is; The civil wat was never an all out tribal war. While it was tribal for the Igbo's, to the rest of Nigeria (which the Midwest belongs), it wasn't so. So when the Igbo's invaded the Midwest and proclaimed a non existent country that lasted barely 48 hrs, it would have been totally nonsensical for the Midwesterners to Marshal local forces to dislodge them, but rather wait for the federal troops to do the dislodgement themselves just as was in the case of Ore. Use your common sense sometimes.

Federal troop indeed! Benjamin Adekunle and newly recruited Yoruba fought. Go check Tell magazine interview he granted in late 1990s. Don't digress, Below screenshot was what Edos claim.
Sorry is your case.....

steveosaz:
You have been cooking history here all the way long. But the thing is; The civil wat was never an all out tribal war. While it was tribal for the Igbo's, to the rest of Nigeria (which the Midwest belongs), it wasn't so. So when the Igbo's invaded the Midwest and proclaimed a non existent country that lasted barely 48 hrs, it would have been totally nonsensical for the Midwesterners to Marshal local forces to dislodge them, but rather wait for the federal troops to do the dislodgement themselves just as was in the case of Ore. Use your common sense sometimes.

Ibos invaded you incrementally.

First, the midwest Ibos told the President, Azikiwe, to give backing to Edo agitation to be freed from Western region and form its own independent region.

Second, they brought Ibos in Eastern region to cross into Asaba and vote in the referendum.

Anybody that thinks Ibo are not politically formidable is playing with danger. You Edos had no clue your demand for your own region would play into their hands. You wanted your Oba to have absolute power over all peoples of the midwest. Ibos were wating for you and planning also.

Third, after you got MidWest the Western Ibos became a bottle neck you had not anticipated. They wanted to carve you out from under Yoruba or Hausa and have your Oba doing yes sir yes sir to an Iboman.

They accomplished that eventually. Even for the brief 48hrs...your Oba had pledged loyalty to yanminri.

Let me show you once more do you not see Okonkwo, head of your Republic, abi Edo don dey answer to Okonkwo name?

davidnazee:
Like I said earlier you are a cheap mugu.. so igbos that answer Ada as name got it from Yoruba?

let me teach you a little about Yoruba etymology on Ada. There are many words in yoruba lexicon that has these same letters but different meaning . So, dont drag ‘AdaObi’, which is an Ibo name for first daughter in Iboland, because they are different. In yoruba, Àdà (sword), Àda ní(creator) Àdami(my creator), Âda( create ), Àdamo created being), Olú da silé ( the creator ). Àda/Uda/Ida is Yoruba word for sword. This doesn't mean, it can't be shared but strangely only Oba Bini uses it and such word for his sword . This is the point. Proof me wrong

davidnazee:
Like I said earlier you are a cheap mugu.. so igbos that answer Ada as name got it from Yoruba?

let me teach you a little about Yoruba etymology on Ada. There are many words in yoruba lexicon that has these same letters but different meaning . So, dont drag ‘AdaObi’, which is an Ibo name for first daughter in Iboland, because they are different. In yoruba, Àdà (sword), Àda ní(creator) Àdami(my creator), Âda( create ), Àdamo (created being from soil), Olú da silé ( the creator ). Àda/Uda/Ida is Yoruba word for sword. This doesn't mean, it can't be shared but strangely only Oba Bini use such word for his sword,which is usually carried infront of him . This is the point. Proof me wrong

Olu317:
let me teach you a little about Yoruba etymology on Ada. There are many words in yoruba lexicon that has these same letters but different meaning . So, dont drag ‘AdaObi’, which is an Ibo name for first daughter in Iboland, because they are different. In yoruba, Àdà (sword), Àda ní(creator) Àdami(my creator), Âda( create ), Àdamo created being), Olú da silé ( the creator ). Àda/Uda/Ida is Yoruba word for sword. This doesn't mean, it can't be shared but strangely only Oba Bini uses it and such word for his sword . This is the point. Proof me wrong

Great point!

Consider this...
Ado/Udo/Edo/Idu

Yoruba own these people.

If i tell them their history here dem go cry. Their witchery will not save dem from shedding tears by time i conclude. But we must keep some weapon in the back pocket.....cant let it all out just like that.


Olu,
Ask them the meaning of Ada/Uda/Ida. I want to hear their explanation.




Watch....they are going to respond with picture of a Yoruba in turban. They are combing internet to find a tie to fulani. Edo and witchery ehhn, mmmtchhew

Olu317:
let me teach you a little about Yoruba etymology on Ada. There are many words in yoruba lexicon that has these same letters but different meaning . So, dont drag ‘AdaObi’, which is an Ibo name for first daughter in Iboland, because they are different. In yoruba, Àdà (sword), Àda ní(creator) Àdami(my creator), Âda( create ), Àdamo (created being from soil), Olú da silé ( the creator ). Àda/Uda/Ida is Yoruba word for sword. This doesn't mean, it can't be shared but strangely only Oba Bini use such word for his sword,which is usually carried infront of him . This is the point. Proof me wrong

Lol.. Ada in Edo language means outside..
it may also mean something in other languages. I had expected that you shud know that there are some words that sound the same in different languages but have different meanings in each language..
Arguing with u guys have made me realize that Yorubas are not really educated as claimed. There are dull Yorubas like babaramota. That guy is a slowpoke..

steveosaz:
Stop wasting your time with baba RAM ota. The "ram" in his name is what is dictating his reasoning. You can never make sense when arguing with a mad man.

;DD

davidnazee:
I see that you are still promoting your white masters excuse to justify their invasion of Benin Kingdom..
Continue spreading their lies of human sacrifices and blood everywhere.. Good for you.. At least we know who enabled the white man to successfully invade Benin Kingdom and other parts of West Africa..

If the British upon entering Benin City had taken pictures, the only dead bodies would have been the thousands of innocent women and children and men they killed with their guns and canons.. But they only took pictures of the looting of the palace and artifacts and of prisoners.
Everybody knows the white man tactics of justifying any invasion.. The Yorubas help them promote it.

Don't mind him, he's a hater. All he wants is to discredit all those who say good things about Benin Kingdom and empower any propaganda against Benin Kingdom, such as the british war propaganda against Benin Kingdom. I know his likes, they think they are being smart...

prolog2:
Don't mind him, he's a hater. All he wants is to discredit all those who say good things about Benin Kingdom and empower any propaganda against Benin Kingdom, such as the british war propaganda against Benin Kingdom. I know his likes, they think they are being smart...

With certainty you cannot run from ekladheran nor his father, nor the queen or owodo"s chiefs. You also cannot escape Igala and that mask. You cannot run away from Biafran Republic. You cannot escape the British expedition and its nonsense. However much you try and use witchery, they are stuck on you from now on in Nairaland.

There far more revelations to disclose...but there is a wisdom that there is no permanent enemy. So we possibly might end up in future banding together against others....for that reason we are keeping somethings back from internet. We are not here to shame you...but to dispute and discredit your ekladheran bullshyyte.