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Re: Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie Wins 2018 PEN Pinter Prize by maestroferddi: 6:37pm On Jun 12, 2018 |
RedboneSmith:Why do you think so? She is exposed... She will get if she merits it. |
Re: Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie Wins 2018 PEN Pinter Prize by Tonymegabush1(m): 6:38pm On Jun 12, 2018 |
A big congratulations to her she has really made her mark home and abroad any parents that gave birth to such a child will be so proud of her.. Honestly adichie deserves some accolade |
Re: Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie Wins 2018 PEN Pinter Prize by musicwriter(m): 6:53pm On Jun 12, 2018 |
"When we see a black man who is constantly being praised by the Americans, begin to suspect him. When we see a black man get honors and all sorts of decorations and the United States flatters him with fine words and phrases, immediately suspect that person. Because our experience has taught us that the Americans do not exalt any black man that is really working for the benefit of the black man." ................ Malcolm X "I’ve never seen a sincere white man, not when it comes to helping black people. Usually things like this are done by white people to benefit themselves. The white man’s primary interest is not to elevate the thinking of black people, or to waken black people, or white people either. The white man is interested in the black man only to the extent that the black man is of use to him."............. Malcolm X 8 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie Wins 2018 PEN Pinter Prize by BluntBoy(m): 6:57pm On Jun 12, 2018 |
maestroferddi: Is it with her watery prose that she wants to win a Nobel Prize? Prose that sound like Mills and Boon books. How many Nobel Prize winners have you read? 1 Like |
Re: Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie Wins 2018 PEN Pinter Prize by Nobody: 7:02pm On Jun 12, 2018 |
Pataricatering: sophisticated moroons everywhere. |
Re: Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie Wins 2018 PEN Pinter Prize by maestroferddi: 7:10pm On Jun 12, 2018 |
BluntBoy:How knowledgeable are you in literature? She is writing superficial literature yet she is winning awards left, right and center. How do you situate that? She is a young writer so you shouldnt her to be penning Homer's Iliad. Her writing style and depth are still evolving. She will definitely mature in the coming years. What is germain is that she is a precocious and talented literary mind. Her trajectory is shouting greatness and I believe she will write herself to immortality... I know a standout writer when I see one. Have been a literary critic for some decades. 2 Likes |
Re: Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie Wins 2018 PEN Pinter Prize by Xisnin(m): 7:13pm On Jun 12, 2018 |
MartinCorridon:Maga, take my advice before it is too late. |
Re: Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie Wins 2018 PEN Pinter Prize by charain: 7:16pm On Jun 12, 2018 |
musicwriter:Don't you have a brain? Why are you waiting for the white man to help you or do you see yourself as being inferior? SMH 1 Like |
Re: Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie Wins 2018 PEN Pinter Prize by Xisnin(m): 7:17pm On Jun 12, 2018 |
musicwriter:Another victim crying like a baby. 1 Like |
Re: Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie Wins 2018 PEN Pinter Prize by MartinCorridon: 7:19pm On Jun 12, 2018 |
Xisnin: Mumu take the Female Likes to invest in treasury bills. You would still remain a wankster |
Re: Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie Wins 2018 PEN Pinter Prize by musicwriter(m): 7:35pm On Jun 12, 2018 |
charain: Where did I tell you I want the white man to help me? Indeed, I don't want any help or accolades by the white man. You're the one that glory in an award by your slave master, not realising he's using you to promote his language, while giving you a mockery crown like they did Christ on the cross. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie Wins 2018 PEN Pinter Prize by Acepen(m): 7:36pm On Jun 12, 2018 |
NoSidonLook:but If Na" Nnamdi The Drug Smuggler Caught In Malaysia'' U No Go Dey Here Shout Igbo Amaka 1 Like |
Re: Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie Wins 2018 PEN Pinter Prize by musicwriter(m): 7:38pm On Jun 12, 2018 |
Xisnin: Victim of what, please? 1 Like |
Re: Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie Wins 2018 PEN Pinter Prize by BluntBoy(m): 7:38pm On Jun 12, 2018 |
maestroferddi: I asked a simple question. How many Nobel Prize winners have you read? And what has precociousness got to do with the coveted Nobel Prize? And please, Adichie is not a standout writer. It is not like her style is very distinct (like that of Soyinka or Achebe or Gordimer) or her voice different from those who write popular fiction. 1 Like |
Re: Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie Wins 2018 PEN Pinter Prize by maestroferddi: 7:57pm On Jun 12, 2018 |
BluntBoy:I cant see the point you are trying to make. Adichie is unique in her own way. She is carving a literary niche for herself. Her style will become more evident as she matures as a writer...Is that difficult to discern? What is, BTW, the big deal with The Nobel Prize? Achebe could have won it if not for politics being played by the establishment. I still maintain that Adichie can win it... 1 Like |
Re: Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie Wins 2018 PEN Pinter Prize by BluntBoy(m): 8:33pm On Jun 12, 2018 |
maestroferddi: And you call yourself a literary critic. Which politics was played to deny Achebe? Which year's Nobel Prize was Achebe denied? I will like to read about it. |
Re: Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie Wins 2018 PEN Pinter Prize by maestroferddi: 9:04pm On Jun 12, 2018 |
BluntBoy:Oga, use the internet conscientiously. Achebe was known for being an African right s activist while in the US. It was said that the white establishment were not well disposed with him getting the Nobel Prize. People were winning even they couldn't hold a candle to Achebe"s stature as a literary colossus. Don't tell me you don't know that some politicking is involved in selecting the honourees. |
Re: Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie Wins 2018 PEN Pinter Prize by BluntBoy(m): 9:26pm On Jun 12, 2018 |
maestroferddi: You are the one who needs to read further. Internet sentiment is not enough. I ask, "in what year should Achebe have won"? Let me educate you. Until 1986 when Soyinka won, the Nobel Prize had been largely criticized as Eurocentric. The 1986 Prize was open to the world and Soyinka won. The nominees for the Nobel Prize are not revealed to the public until after 50 years from that particular year. The nominees of the 1986 Prize can only be known after 50 years. It is not 50 years yet so how and where did you people hear that Achebe was ever considered? You claim Achebe was a rights activist forgetting that there were loads of rights activists like Alex La Guma, Nadine Gordimer (who won the 1989 Nobel Prize), Coatzee (who won the 2003 Nobel Prize) and even our own Wole Soyinka (who was the first African to win it in 1986). You claim the Nobel Prize is politics but would deny that Adichie's awards were through politicking. I am so disappointed that a so-called literary critic can be this petty. Because Achebe was not good enough, you want to reduce the coveted Nobel Prize to a political thing. It is really sad. 1 Like |
Re: Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie Wins 2018 PEN Pinter Prize by maestroferddi: 9:49pm On Jun 12, 2018 |
BluntBoy:Your assertions are purely visceral You are fixated on something. Will not further time trying to disabuse your blinkered viewpoints... |
Re: Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie Wins 2018 PEN Pinter Prize by BluntBoy(m): 10:01pm On Jun 12, 2018 |
maestroferddi: Don't run away, Mr Literary Critic. Answer my question. You can't just claim that Achebe was cheated out of a Nobel Prize without providing any credible argument. All you have done is make assertions and then turn around to accuse me of presenting assertions as fact. Google is accessible and I would expect you to try and refute me instead of using big words to cover up your inadequacy. |
Re: Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie Wins 2018 PEN Pinter Prize by Nobody: 10:07pm On Jun 12, 2018 |
TheUbermensch: She didn't win the award for writing, keep spending your life bashing people that are far better than you and don't brush up yourself intellectually, you will end up bitter, angry and useless at 90 and that's not a curse . That's if you even get to 90, your hate will probably eat you up alive before then |
Re: Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie Wins 2018 PEN Pinter Prize by Nobody: 10:11pm On Jun 12, 2018 |
maestroferddi: Keep being a literary critic and fading into the woodwork in comparison to those you're criticizing |
Re: Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie Wins 2018 PEN Pinter Prize by OGHENAOGIE(m): 10:20pm On Jun 12, 2018 |
Who are all these idiots whinning their stupidity and foolishness ...Chi is a feminist and happily married too... most pples problem is not lack of reading and education but idols of the cave and too much tied to cultural boundaries.... 1 Like |
Re: Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie Wins 2018 PEN Pinter Prize by TheUbermensch: 10:24pm On Jun 12, 2018 |
skarlett: skarlett: skarlett: I don't mind being bitter and angry at 200. It's my cross to bear not yours. Because you're happy and proud of certain persons doesn't mean I should be. Our DNAs are wired differently. Being happy and proud of them doesn't place you on the same level with them. So I don't see how you're better than me. Saying I won't live to see 90. Lol. I send it back to your mom and dad. 1 Like |
Re: Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie Wins 2018 PEN Pinter Prize by searchlight: 11:55pm On Jun 12, 2018 |
Thegamingorca:at least she's a specialist in one thing. dick sulking. which one do we know you with? |
Re: Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie Wins 2018 PEN Pinter Prize by maestroferddi: 6:17am On Jun 13, 2018 |
BluntBoy:I value my time. I would rather you derobe yourself of the crass ethnocentrism you are wearing on your sleeves. You don't expect me to waste my time trying to convince you when your tribal intransigence is there for all to see. I have made my points and those are in the know know that I am not talking nonsense. If you choose to keep regaling yourself with cheap nitpicking and pettiness, then that is your cup of tea.... |
Re: Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie Wins 2018 PEN Pinter Prize by maestroferddi: 6:20am On Jun 13, 2018 |
skarlett:My young lady, knowledge is the principal thing... A literary critic is has nothing to do with what you think... |
Re: Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie Wins 2018 PEN Pinter Prize by Nobody: 6:36am On Jun 13, 2018 |
TheUbermensch: The major thing you forgot to highlight is still there, you couldn't even comprehend the basic reason why she was given the award, that's how I'm better than you, ciao! |
Re: Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie Wins 2018 PEN Pinter Prize by Nobody: 6:38am On Jun 13, 2018 |
maestroferddi: I know who literary critics are and to me they're just wasting their time. The time you'll use to analyse other people's work should be spent creating yours, that's all I'm saying. |
Re: Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie Wins 2018 PEN Pinter Prize by Henon: 8:07am On Jun 13, 2018 |
Thegamingorca:She sucked the right one and got the prize. Your sis has been sucking keke drivers and just did her eighth abortion last week. |
Re: Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie Wins 2018 PEN Pinter Prize by Henon: 8:15am On Jun 13, 2018 |
NoSidonLook:You dey mind him. He can't compose essay of 800 words ooo! 1 Like |
Re: Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie Wins 2018 PEN Pinter Prize by BluntBoy(m): 8:18am On Jun 13, 2018 |
maestroferddi: So, because Adichie is Igbo, I should not give bad reviews merely to avoid being labeled a tribalist? So, we can't have an intellectual discussion without someone seeing tribalism somewhere in the argument? And you call yourself a literary critic. If you indeed are a literary critic, have you never given a bad review before? This issue has nothing to do with tribalism. Adichie is a wonderful writer but not a bet for the Nobel Prize. Her novels are at best popular fiction, something which the Nobel Committee don't consider with much seriousness. It is the reason why popular writers hardly win it. That was why I asked for how many Nobel Prize winners you have read. If you have read Toni Morrison or Nadine Gordimer, place their books side by side with Adichie and you would see why Adichie can never even smell the Nobel. It takes a lot of power and sustained voice to win the Nobel. You can't read Morrison the way you read Adichie just as you can't read Soyinka the way you read Achebe. There are clear differences. Morrison and Soyinka are in a deeper level than Adichie and Achebe. You are likely to drop their books after a few lines because of the deep, highly personal writings which the Nobel believes to be real literature. Go and read Soyinka's The Interpreters and Achebe's No Longer At Ease. These books have the same theme of alienation. While Achebe's writing is straightforward (nothing bad about that but the Nobel committee likes something deeper and highly philosophical), Soyinka's writings are deeper, mythical and powerful. Using the myth of Ogun, Soyinka perfectly conveyed the theme of alienation deeply while Achebe did so on the surface like every popular fiction. You can't win the Nobel Prize with books like Half of a Yellow Sun or the unnecessarily bulky Americanah. Moreover, you can't win the Nobel Prize if you don't write constantly (especially if you are African). How could Achebe have won with only 4 major novels in the category that had Soyinka (who had over 15 plays), Naguib Mahfouz (who was already a force to reckon with in Egypt and the Arab world) and the exquisite Nadine Gordimer? Now, look at what is happening to Adichie too. She has not published any major work since May, 2013. And people insist her first two novels are far better than the third. How can you win the Nobel when you are not even consistent? Exact same thing happened to Achebe. Prior to the 1986 Nobel Prize, Achebe had only published 4 novels and had last published in 1966 and yet people expect him to be picked over Soyinka who continued to publish plays after plays and even published a powerful autobiography "Ake" in 1986. My argument has nothing to do with tribalism. Some of my favorite African novelists are Igbos. I love Chukwuemeka Ike and Cyprian Ekwensi and one of my favorite poets is Christopher Okigbo. |
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