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melody91:
yes ..and I have questions for you as well..how long have you been on nairaland? do you know it wasn't that way right from time? and finally what led to it's creation?

Here is the problem I have with you as a Muslim filled with bias and false accusation.

Since you opened this thread accusing Christians of jumping into Islamic threads to criticise. You are yet to bring in one single evidence of prove of your accusation, while you demand prove from butterflyleo on the other hand supplied you numerous proves.

The fact that there is Islamic section where no one can go in without taking an oath is a fair sign of intolerance of your religion to others.

You are swift to accuse others and point fingers at them on exactly what you are guilty of.

Hypocrisy goes side by side with Islam. Trust me everybody knows this.

melody91:
yes ..and I have questions for you as well..how long have you been on nairaland? do you know it wasn't that way right from time? and finally what led to it's creation?

Asalamu Alykum sir.
I sympathize with your concerns. A little research of this So-called religious forum will convince you that it was NOT established with the right motive in the first place.

Atheists disguised as Christians and Muslims cruelly mocked and insulted our RESPECTED and revered holy doctrines to turn us against each other.

This fake religious forum is in fact an Atheist forum built by an Atheist for obvious reasons.
Islam wisely saw the scam and did the right thing to restore the dignity of its followers.

If I build this forum and received the threats from Usman Muhammad as BUTTERFLYLEO pointed out here, I would also separate the religions.

Footnote:
Christians are mostly banned when they counter attack atheist who mock their HOLY scriptures.


BUTTERFLYLEO posted this warning made to Se.un from: Usman Muhammad. "An advice for you I really appreciate your dedication and skills in designing this website. I write not to praise your exceptional skills but to advice you on just one thing that will inevitable come to you. By birth a Muslim is emotionally reactive to his religion, Nigeria Muslim on the other hand are slightly explosive to any thing they consider blasphemy to Islam and our noble Prophet.seun, I respectably urge you to have firm control of your web site. The forum under religion is embodied with lots of abusive, offensive and incisive phrase against Islam. Phrase that is capable of igniting a serious tension and a threat to your own life. I am a Muslim, a moderate Muslim you may say, but I can tell the reaction and counter reaction of an extremist who can easily be offended by contents of your web site. The authors may not be known, but you as the founder, would be easily branded as an abettor and a party to the offence. What I am saying in effect is that, you should edit, delete and choose topics posted on the forum you consider offensive. Imagine phrase calling Prophet Muhammad “evil” “stupid”. No! No!! No!!! osewa, you should act quickly, or else one day, a fatwa would be issued for you, and then you will be a celebrity under serious police protection. Then you can as well spend your [salary] undercover. These guys that post this thing are trying to destroy what you have suffered to build."

melody91:
another hypocrite on the loose, why can't you just attack me instead and not Muslims, no Muslim association or organization sent me to create this thread..every man/woman should be hold responsible for his/her action..you just proved my point, you have so much hatred in your heart to anything tagged Islam ..so much for your love ,tolerance preaching and pls links to the threads against Christianity or stfu forever ..

If you go through my thread ..you'll will find out I don't like Christians but I try as much as possible to be unsentimental when it concerns issues as this.

you're a bigger hypocrite ...
you opened a thread accusing Christians of being violent against Muslims , which means in a way comparing the two and faulting just one/Christians. And yet you have the guts to ask a christian on this thread to leave Muslim out of her discussions and to that you added the word hypocrite to her moniker.

what a shame..

skyhighweb:
Bros hows that possible to comment on muslim thread u got agreed to being a muslim b4 u can proceed or is there any other way to comment on muslim thread as a xtain

It's because of your excess and otiose criticisms on the Muslims that Seun introduced that.

iceboy4752:
It's because of your excess and otiose criticisms on the Muslims that Seun introduced that.

n yet he didn't introduce it on xtain section to balance both shey

skyhighweb:
n yet he didn't introduce it on xtain section to balance both shey

Because Muslims don't pervert your threads with nonsense bro, yet they are "terrorists" and "intolerant."
Moreover, we are talking about topic invasion and drailing, not oath taking.

Truthsbitter:
If you go through my thread ..you'll will find out I don't like Christians but I try as much as possible to be unsentimental when it concerns issues as this.

you're a bigger hypocrite ...
you opened a thread accusing Christians of being violent against Muslims , which means in a way comparing the two and faulting just one/Christians. And yet you have the guts to ask a christian on this thread to leave Muslim out of her discussions and to that you added the word hypocrite to her moniker.

what a shame..

what's this one saying?

udatso:
If you could say this even after all that I have typed....then I am really disappointed

I never said Muslims have been totally innocent.... so what's with this reply? Did you even read my post?
Is kafir an English word? And you gave an English definition of kafir? You are Just like the rest who can't keep religious sentiments from logical and critical reasoning.

Asalamalaikum brother, its been a very long time. Perhaps it's because I hardly patronize that religion section any more. Hope you are good. Udatso, except if discussions are geared towards MUTUAL UNDERSTANDING, don't waste your time over Minds that are LACKING in intellectual elasticity. May Allah make us live and die as SINCERE MUSLIMS most pleasing to Him. Amin!

iceboy4752:
It's because of your excess and otiose criticisms on the Muslims that Seun introduced that.

Seun once mentioned in one of his posts that you muslims are intolerant and abusive .

I hope he is reading this now and would make comments based on historical facts at his disposal.

WORDWORLD:
Asalamalaikum brother, its been a very long time. Perhaps it's because I hardly patronize that religion section any more. Hope you are good. Udatso, except if discussions are geared towards MUTUAL UNDERSTANDING, don't waste your time over Minds that are LACKING in intellectual elasticity. May Allah make us live and die as SINCERE MUSLIMS most pleasing to Him. Amin!

Ameen. I gave up on them long time ago.

udatso:
Ameen. I gave up on them long time ago.

Hahahaha ....... Bro leave them with the Mighty Atheists abeg to be running the show on that section. Perhaps some day those Mighty Atheists too will realise that the cant make any head way with such mindsets who practice BLIND FAITH because of their insistance that YOU CANT APPLY LOGIC AND REASONING when it comes to discussing about their religion. And it goes ironically like this "THINKING (logic) WILL LEAD YOU ASTRAY, I WANT YOU TO 'THINK' ABOUT IT" Hahaha udatso how can one make any head way with people who are always running around in circles always contradicting themselves. Udatso why should you be surprise that what you get as response are nothing but SENTIMENTS devoid of LOGIC and CRITICAL THINKING and most of all INSULTS. What else should be expected from Minds devoid of reasoning when it comes to discussing about their religion, cannot use simple logic to communicate if not INSULTS. That's the way their minds have been wired.

So, UNFORTUNATE they mostly cant think outside the box except a few and its these few interested in elastic conversation, who show respect should you invest your time in. Otherwise you are only WASTING YOUR TIME ON THESE LOTS!!!

The One and major reason why Muslims were designated a seperate section on this social media platform NAIRALAND is because of the honest observation of the OP. That section was created to make peace and despite the ULTIMATE DECLARATION OF THE MUSLIM FAITH as the pass into the Muslim section, to Bar non- Muslims TROUBLE MAKERS, these non-Muslims particularly they FANATICAL CHRISTIANS, the BLIND, DEAF AND DUMB ones among them full of HATRED, yet do not hesitate to throw away their BLIND FAITH and embrace ISLAM which they despise so much yet accepting the SHA'ADAH by the click just to come and cause troubles. It is not funny such MENTAL ILLNESS they exhibit really. Indeed it's a mental illness am very serious, its no insult at all just telling the TRUTH.

Udatso, I believe that those missionaries who didn't eventually embrace Islam, who used to make Ahmed Dedat cry furiously by their taunting of ISLAM when he was so young died REGRETING not minding their business as it is on NAIRALAND.
You hardly find Christians telling you about the beauty of Christianity as to attract non Christian. All they mostly do just as any honestly observer of NAIRALAND is to be looking for trouble up and down. If one is devoid of WISDOM what else should be expected?

Though Ahmed Dedat has returned to his CREATOR, may Allah bless him with Janatul Firdausi as well as all those who are not ARROGANT, who submit and submitted WHOLE HEARTEDLY to the LORD AND CHERISHER OF THE WORLDS. Ahmed Dedat's books and videos till date win UNCOUNTABLE hearts into the folds of ISLAM. Not to talk of his countless students alive today of which Zakir Naik is a prominent example. Udatso, my latest thread is titled, "I AM GAY" it is dedicated to a friend, am still putting my thoughts together, YES! NO STONE MUST BE LEFT UNTURNED. Hope you don't mind if I mention you with due respect but meanwhile you can kindly have a glimpse into it on my profile. PEACE BROTHER.

udatso:
Butterflyleo

The first was creation of the Islam for Muslim thread. Though I wasn't active on nairaland when it happened but I heard beer parlor rumor of se.un was issued fatwa and a threat to his life made him create a separate section for Muslims.....this was never confirmed as he never denied it nor affirm it. I believe you are a reasonable person and taking rumoured gossip as fact is beneath you

Chai, i was not aware of this. I hope it was false. And thanks for the rest. I was aware of the second one. That got on my nerve. I think that was 2014. I still remember those products of rape by bandits caused hell of trouble.

Empiree:
Chai, i was not aware of this. I hope it was false. And thanks for the rest. I was aware of the second one. That got on my nerve. I think that was 2014. I still remember those products of rape by bandits caused hell of trouble.

Yeah. It feels like yesterday....those guys were pure evil.... children of hate.

enilove:
Seun once mentioned in one of his posts that you muslims are intolerant and abusive .

I hope he is reading this now and would make comments based on historical facts at his disposal.

it is apparent who the abusive ones are already. Seun's comment does not change the fact that we get bashed at any instance. I've seen many Christian threads that ran as smooth as lotion, without a Muslim interrupting to ridicule your "Message of Salvation." Whenever we peacefully discuss ours, the people of the Cross flood the thread and castigate our beliefs. They also fire harsh insults at us, and we hardly reply with insults. I know someone will definitely criticize me for this comment. Despite these, we are still "intolerant."

iceboy4752:
it is apparent who the abusive ones are already. Seun's comment does not change the fact that we get bashed at any instance. I've seen many Christian threads that ran as smooth as lotion, without a Muslim interrupting to ridicule your "Message of Salvation." Whenever we peacefully discuss ours, the people of the Cross flood the thread and castigate our beliefs. They also fire harsh insults at us, and we hardly reply with insults. I know someone will definitely criticize me for this comment. Despite these, we are still "intolerant."

What do you mean by " when we peacefully discuss ours , the people of the cross flood the thread and castigate our beliefs"?

Why do you have to leave your Islamic section to open a thread in another section made for others to avoid insults and abuse between the Muslims and other religions. Who then is a trouble maker? More especially when those threads are meant to discredit their religions.

enilove:
What do you mean by " when we peacefully discuss ours , the people of the cross flood the thread and castigate our beliefs"?

Why do you have to leave your Islamic section to open a thread in another section made for others to avoid insults and abuse between the Muslims and other religions. Who then is a trouble maker? More especially when those threads are meant to discredit their religions.

Imagine the impudence! They have been given a dedicated section but that does not seem to be enough for them to open all their religious threads and hold their discussions . They would still intentionally leave that dedicated section and come and open threads which they use to bash and discredit "the people of the cross".

Even the way he wrote " the people of the cross" shows the level he loathes them

Butterflyleo:
Imagine the impudence! They have been given a dedicated section but that does not seem to be enough for them to open all their religious threads and hold their discussions . They would still intentionally leave that dedicated section and come and open threads which they use to bash and discredit "the people of the cross".

Even the way he wrote " the people of the cross" shows the level he loathes them

It's a full package that comes with being a Muslim, "HYPOCRISY".

They steal what is yours and make it theirs and tell you yours is fake and no longer valid.

They stole bible records mixed it up with Arabian fables and condemn the bible to being corrupted.

They stole all the biblical patriarchs and claimed they were all muslims.

They stole Jesus and claimed that they love him and that they are the true followers of christ.

They claim that the present Israelis are not the true Israelis.

They attack you and when you reciprocate, they claim you are an intolerant fellow and a trouble maker.

They ask for evidence and prove for just about everything while they provide none for their claims.

everything is a lie and fabrication as long as it's not coming from a fellow Muslim.

I could go on and on.

But the obvious truth remain undiluted all over the world. That they profess religion of peace but act in the very opposite.

melody91:
you're not making sense sir ..get the proofs or get lost

Pls go behead someone, that'll make you feel good

enilove:
Something is greatly wrong with you Muslims.

Can any christian come to the Islamic section and open a thread as you did here ? As if that is not enough , just like your co Muslims , the thread is always against Christianity .
What then do you expect ? We should fold our arms because Christianity is about love and let you discredit our Holy religion? It is not done .

they think as they bully Christians in the north, they can bully us here in nairaland.

Won ti de (the bandits don arrived)

anas

mamin

enilove

These 3 are tsunamis but they aren't their toughest. Thoughest christian guys are on vacation

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Maamin:
It's a full package that comes with being a Muslim, "HYPOCRISY".

They steal what is yours and make it theirs and tell you yours is fake and no longer valid.

They stole bible records mixed it up with Arabian fables and condemn the bible to being corrupted.

They stole all the biblical patriarchs and claimed they were all muslims.

They stole Jesus and claimed that they love him and that they are the true followers of christ.

They claim that the present Israelis are not the true Israelis.

They attack you and when you reciprocate, they claim you are an intolerant fellow and a trouble maker.

They ask for evidence and prove for just about everything while they provide none for their claims.

everything is a lie and fabrication as long as it's not coming from a fellow Muslim.

I could go on and on.

But the obvious truth remain undiluted all over the world. That they profess religion of peace but act in the very opposite.

Truthfully , there was a revelation regarding this.

God bless you .

WORDWORLD:
Hahahaha ....... Bro leave them with the Mighty Atheists abeg to be running the show on that section. Perhaps some day those Mighty Atheists too will realise that the cant make any head way with such mindsets who practice BLIND FAITH because of their insistance that YOU CANT APPLY LOGIC AND REASONING when it comes to discussing about their religion. And it goes ironically like this "THINKING (logic) WILL LEAD YOU ASTRAY, I WANT YOU TO 'THINK' ABOUT IT" Hahaha udatso how can one make any head way with people who are always running around in circles always contradicting themselves. Udatso why should you be surprise that what you get as response are nothing but SENTIMENTS devoid of LOGIC and CRITICAL THINKING and most of all INSULTS. What else should be expected from Minds devoid of reasoning when it comes to discussing about their religion, cannot use simple logic to communicate if not INSULTS. That's the way their minds have been wired.

So, UNFORTUNATE they mostly cant think outside the box except a few and its these few interested in elastic conversation, who show respect should you invest your time in. Otherwise you are only WASTING YOUR TIME ON THESE LOTS!!!

The One and major reason why Muslims were designated a seperate section on this social media platform NAIRALAND is because of the honest observation of the OP. That section was created to make peace and despite the ULTIMATE DECLARATION OF THE MUSLIM FAITH as the pass into the Muslim section, these non-Muslim particularly FANATICAL CHRISTIANS, the BLIND, DEAF AND DUMB ones among them full of HATRED, yet do not hesitate to throw away their beliefs and embrace ISLAM which they despise so much yet accepting the SHADAH by the click just to come and cause troubles. It is indeed not funny such MENTAL ILLNESS really. Indeed it's a mental illness am very serious, its no insult at all just telling the TRUTH.

Udatso, I believe that those missionaries who didn't eventually embrace Islam, who used to make Ahmed Dedat cry furiously by their taunting of ISLAM when he was so young died REGRETING not minding their business at it is on NAIRALAND. You hardly find Christians telling you about the beauty of Christianity as to attract non Christian s. All they mostly do just as any honestly observer of NAIRALAND is to be looking for trouble up and down. If one is devoid of WISDOM what else should be expected?

Though Ahmed Dedat has returned to his CREATOR, may Allah bless him with Janatul Firdausi as well as all those who are not ARROGANT, who submit and submitted WHOLE HEARTEDLY to the LORD AND CHERISHER OF THE WORLDS. Ahmed Dedat's books and videos till date win UNCOUNTABLE hearts into the folds of ISLAM. Not to talk of his countless students alive today of which Zakir Naik is a prominent example. Udatso, my latest thread is titled, "I AM GAY" it is dedicated to a friend, am still putting my thoughts together, YES! NO STONE MUST BE LEFT UNTURNED. Hope you don't mind if I mention you with due respect but meanwhile you can kindly have a glimpse into it on my profile. PEACE BROTHER.

I pity you. Can't you see the end of Ahmed Dedat? He was paralysed and tormented for more than 5 years . Go and watch the video , maybe it will change you.

Go and pray to God to reveal who Muhammad was and who Jesus is to you b4 it gets too late for you.

You keep asking PROOFS TO THIS, PROOF TO THAT. The question is, how long have u been on this forum? Cos there was a time the Muslim guys were always ravaging Nd derailing our topics. And that threats issued to seun bout the Islamic section is actually true.
A Christian will post something here and after few minutes, the topic has disappeared. But check the Islamic side, it is there.

melody91:
lol ..I won't be forced to believe all they teach in your church is how to lie, mislead people with baseless facts,hypocrisy among others...you're just a bloody liar ...
proofs to where Seun was threatened or keep shut till eternity.. I'm so disappointed none of you could drop no proof to back your so called facts , all y'all do is to makeup shits from your heads and other ppl like you will follow without confirming the originality... not surprised tho ,we have pastors that use snakes ,turn members to carpets to walk upon and other despicable things as well ,still you lots follow.

peace sir

enilove:
I pity you. Can't you see the end of Ahmed Dedat? He was paralysed and tormented for more than 5 years . Go and watch the video , maybe it will change you.

Go and pray to God to reveal who Muhammad was and who Jesus is to you b4 it gets too late for you.

So now people should be judged by how they passed away?. There are no Christians and Jews that passed away in pain and suffering?. Christian evangelist liar, Nabeel Quraishi died of painful cancer despite given second chance by God to embrace the truth of Islam.

Ariel Sharom died after 8yrs of suffering in a coma. He suffered btw life and death for yrs. Does that mean anything to you?

Empiree:
So now people should be judged by how they passed away?. There are no Christians and Jews that passed away in pain and suffering?. Christian evangelist liar, Nabeel Quraishi died of painful cancer despite given second chance by God to embrace the truth of Islam.

Ariel Sharom died after 8yrs of suffering in a coma. He suffered btw life and death for yrs. Does that mean anything to you?

Navel Quaraishi died of cancer but was at peace even till he passed away which not the case with Ahmed Dedat.

Everyone will die one way or the other but you could see from the video of Dedat on the sick bed that he was GREATLY TROUBLED AND TORMENTED . HE WAS CRYING WITH FEAR ON HIS FACE.

I wouldn't have mentioned it but did to let WORLDWORLD know how Ahmed Dedat himself died , since he claimed some Missionaries died horribly .

enilove:
Navel Quaraishi died of cancer but was at peace even till he passed away which not the case with Ahmed Dedat.

how did you know his cancer sickness was peaceful when he himself confessed the pain he went through?. There is no painless cancer

Everyone will die one way or the other but you could see from the video of Dedat on the sick bed that he was GREATLY TROUBLED AND TORMENTED . HE WAS CRYING WITH FEAR ON HIS FACE.

So your definition of "greatly troubled and tormented" was Sheikh Ahmed Deedat(ra)?. In that case , look at highlighted phrases, that fit the death of your Jesus as described by biblical accounts. He was greatly tormented and troubled to the point of crying out loud for help on the cross. If by your logical deduction Ahmed Dedat's death was a proof that islam is false, then christianity is more false bcus your Jesus died painful death. Besides, Ahmed Deedat was not criteria we judge islam. But your Jesus is used to judge your religion cus according to you he was GREATLY TROUBLED AND TORMENTED . HE WAS CRYING FOR HELP WITH FEAR ON HIS FACE ON THE CROSS.

enilove:
What do you mean by " when we peacefully discuss ours , the people of the cross flood the thread and castigate our beliefs"?

[/b]Why do you have to leave your Islamic section to open a thread in another section made for others to avoid insults and abuse[b] between the Muslims and other religions. Who then is a trouble maker? More especially when those threads are meant to discredit their religions.

It is simply because the OP's question: [/b]"Why Are Christians Quick To Jump On Muslim Threads And Criticise"[b] is not meant for only Muslims that is why it was not posted under "Islam for Muslims." The last time I checked, general topics like this are to be posted under "Religion."

Empiree:
Won ti de (the bandits don arrived)

anas

mamin

enilove

These 3 are tsunamis but they aren't their toughest. Thoughest christian guys are on vacation

Lol, Empiree it's been a while, I guess you are on vacation too. Trust me these days I don't engage in long argument because it's futile. I tell it as it is and leave you to ponder on it.

I Hope you find conviction in the light of christ.

Shalom!

@op. Most Nairaland Christians are nothing but stupid hypocrites who fight for Jesus day and night online even they say Jesus shouldn't be fought for.

Their level of intolerance is manifold compare to Muslims. You will know this with their preaching in a public bus while Muslims patiently listen without making troubles. Imagine what would happen if Muslims begin to preach the same way.

Their actions are absolutely contrary to that Jesus. I wonder if jesus would tow their path if he were a Nairalander.

Empiree:
how did you know his cancer sickness was peaceful when he himself confessed the pain he went through?. There is no painless cancer

So your definition of "greatly troubled and tormented" was Sheikh Ahmed Deedat(ra)?. In that case , look at highlighted phrases, that fit the death of your Jesus as described by biblical accounts. He was greatly tormented and troubled to the point of crying out loud for help on the cross. If by your logical deduction Ahmed Dedat's death was a proof that islam is false, then christianity is more false bcus your Jesus died painful death. Besides, Ahmed Deedat was not criteria we judge islam. But your Jesus is used to judge your religion cus according to you he was GREATLY TROUBLED AND TORMENTED . HE WAS CRYING FOR HELP WITH FEAR ON HIS FACE ON THE CROSS.

The pain and sufferings of Jesus cannot be compared with that of Dedat's . Infact, Dedat did not go through any pain when compared with that of Jesus. He was also physically tormented and abandoned but Dedat was not abandoned , so you are right.

Just want to repeat this , Dedat's death was boasted of by WORLDWORLD and that promoted me to remind him of what he went through. I did not generalised it. And that is clear from what I have posted so far on this issue. There are many wicked souls who died peacefully but their judgements is awaiting them in hell.

Back to death of Jesus , he suffered all that on the cross for you and me . He was made a sinner for us so as not to face the punishment of eternal torments in hell.

Without Jesus , you cannot escape hell, that is the truth.

1 Corinthians 1:18 KJV
For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

I was a Muslim and now a christian . I can see or tell the differences and the truth that Islam cannot not save , it is a satanic religion.
This may be hard for you to believe , that is why you need prayers.