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| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moneywomen17(m): 7:39am On Jun 23, 2018 |
steveosaz:post the full document let’s see what they said leading up to the name u cite cuz all I see are restructuring and some shit and even with that have u still forgotten it was quickly withdrawn with them admitting they made a mistake. Who has a bigger presence in the oil and gas industry bigger than Yoruba and Hausa in form of oil block or working in oil companies who do u expect them to give quick notice before is it edo nupe or who. As long as they are already withdraw and admit they made a mistake we are cool now and more Yoruba will be going there soon to get more job in the oil company |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 7:44am On Jun 23, 2018 |
Moneywomen17:First, Lagos is not Yoruba state. even if you say so rest of Nigeria does not agree to that. Ogun state does not beat Edo or delta state. Meanwhile which document did u provide about lagos? The document you provided only discusses Yoruba people and the population of entire Yoruba race in all of Yoruba lands at that time.. and at that time the population of Yorubas in Lagos colony was only 86k (the document doesnt say Lagos is Yoruba land even) .. Population of Edos in Lagos at that time could have been more.. You really lack basic understanding.. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moneywomen17(m): 7:48am On Jun 23, 2018 |
davidnazee:ur old age is worrying u I hope u are not blind but I will help and break the LASG statement for u. The first screen shot talked about the name Lagos edo and Europeans trading there and the controversy regarding the name of Eko of which one account involve awori and the second Benin. Second screen shot talked about their knowledge of what they say in this document is by the account of the Europeans of which English are European just leaving that there. Now the main line of the LASG and I quote “what is fairly certain is that the awori settlement in Lagos was earlier than that of the benin” now read this quoted statement and tell me where is says edo and awori were the earlier settler of Lagos island. The first settler of Lagos is awori(yoruba) before Benin came not awori and edo the same time read well |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by steveosaz(m): 7:58am On Jun 23, 2018 |
davidnazee:That 17 year old boy knows nothing. First of all, he should tell us his state of origin so that we could properly place him. I bet he is from one remote interior village, yet claiming Lagos to be his father's property. The link below is to an interview granted by a son of the soil in Lagos; a royalty with blue blood who is giving the true account of things as it was. He is Layi Ajayi-Obembe. Let all these bastardz tell us their own ancestry and stop twisting other peoples own. Storyless people http://punchng.com/bini-not-yoruba-are-original-owners-of-lagos-ajayi-bembe/ |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moneywomen17(m): 7:59am On Jun 23, 2018*. Modified: 8:15am On Jun 23, 2018 |
davidnazee:u mean the rest of Nigeria(ibo and edo) of which the same ibo complain all the time that all development is station in Yoruba land which is the same Lagos smh. Show me the igr of edo,delta and Ogun and show me where delta and edo beat Ogun State. I see u are agreeing with the document now instead of claiming one stupid British bias. U said the British were only discussing the population of Yoruba island which Lagos is part of but in the same sentence says Lagos doesn’t belong to yoruba see how foolish u are being in other to be stupid and dishonest read well below the British said Yoruba population is estimated at 3 million and the area can be ranged from 25000 to 30000 square miles of which the colony of Lagos is 1069 so it clearly states that Lagos island which Yoruba land is 1069 out of the 25000 to 30000 square miles. It didn’t list edo there cuz like I said they knows who owns the land not nairaland ownership
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| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 8:00am On Jun 23, 2018 |
Moneywomen17:Thank God you know I'm older than you little boy.. I explained to you before but you didnt understand because of your fish brain.. In the whole area called Lagos, the Aworis only occupied Iddo.. That was their land, not the whole present day Lagos.. The Edos came and settled in Lagos Island which was unoccupied and no mans land at that time and developed it into a formidable trading town.. It was this town that attracted more people to migrate to Lagos.. That is why it is correct to say Benin founded Lagos because it was our activities there that opened up the place and gave it its recognition and importance. So the first settlers in Lagos is Aworis and Edos and the founder of modern day Lagos is Edos. anyways I'm done with you little boy for now.. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moneywomen17(m): 8:06am On Jun 23, 2018 |
steveosaz:shut up there now he resorts to recent interview given after he realizes his foolishness regarding the LASG document he was holding on too. This is another interview granted by two indigene of the same soil that approve that awori was owner of the land not Benin. Ajayi Bembe na hungry man simple. I will keep posting British account that experience things first hand without any politics or bias and explain who they met and owns Lagos island which is none other than Yoruba. Edo and ibo boys can kill them selves if it pain them that much
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| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moneywomen17(m): 8:11am On Jun 23, 2018 |
davidnazee:if u are older than me why are u so foolish then, the awori were the first settler in all of Lagos island not only Iddo Benin came there met them there end of story. Any other story from edo it’s plain false. In the whole history of any town if na somebody own am the language, custom will reflect that and the customs only reflect Yoruba. Once again this the British were not dumb they knew who they met in Lagos, signed treaty with them and it was no edo but Yoruba i will keep pounding it into ur very very thick skull. Awori are the first settler in Lagos and in such virtue owns the land. Read the British document again and get some ice cream. Lagos first settler are only awori not awori and edo they did not come the same time awori came before them.
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| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 8:14am On Jun 23, 2018 |
Moneywomen17:Yes you can post British accounts and instructions as handed to you by your masters.. We will post real lagosians accounts.. https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/12/benin-people-owned-lagos-aworis-paid-royalties-erelu-abiola-dosunmu/ |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moneywomen17(m): 8:21am On Jun 23, 2018 |
davidnazee:u mean hungry lagosian account, just like I posted for ur brother osaz here is indigene of the same “real lagosians” saying that awori owns the land and Benin are migrant. Here is it below so controversial oral stories with no fact to back it up cuz most of them were not alive or if they were which I doubt they were will be very young in the time period but below is the British acccount who were there documented the real account first hand what they saw and experience and wrote it down and it all points to yoruba so I will agree with British account better cuz they have no reason to lie unlike edo boys and history distorted of today.
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| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 8:22am On Jun 23, 2018 |
Moneywomen17:Maybe another from a real lagosian too.. http://www.irinajo.co/victorian-doorways-yaba/ |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moneywomen17(m): 8:27am On Jun 23, 2018 |
davidnazee:no not real lagosian but from a osu ibo whose from the east of the Niger telling super story. U are real desperate to find prove for ur lies davidnaze smh why not accept the truth and get some ice cream to console u lol.
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| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moneywomen17(m): 8:32am On Jun 23, 2018 |
davidnazee:dumbass Lagos is a state created from Lagos island to merge with places in the western region in 1967. In the modern Lagos state like u say in ikorodu epe it’s plain ijebu who are the people who are first settler and owner of the land there is no awori there same with badagry ogu . Lagos island where awori is are the first settler 100% no edo co-owned it with them. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by steveosaz(m): 8:32am On Jun 23, 2018 |
Moneywomen17:This small boy is a dickwad! You went to bring up an interview by that same useless and hopelessly compromised historian called Akintoye who we had destroyed in some pages back?! Hahahahaha... LoL Then you went to bring someone who is president of a pirate group called Eko foundation. Ajayi-Obembe is a household name in Lagos. Read the interview and hear the man destroy you lilly livered chickens with hard incontrovertible facts. Ajayi Obembe was president of Lagos descendants Association - a more recognized group. Even the Oba of Lagos had alluded to this in time past. The previous Oba of Lagos too, Oyekan had also said something to that effect. So what hocus pocus are you spewing? |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by steveosaz(m): 8:35am On Jun 23, 2018 |
Moneywomen17:Again your foolishness. Ask anyone familiar with the customs of Ikorodu, they'll tell you that till today, the kingmakers in Ikorodu are an elite group who can still trace their origin to Benin. You distorters are only wasting your time. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by steveosaz(m): 8:40am On Jun 23, 2018 |
Moneywomen17:Loser!!! This is what happens when you get to the end of your rope, you suddenly begin to use derogatory language on the writer while being unable to counter the veracity of his findings. Real loser indeed! |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moneywomen17(m): 8:43am On Jun 23, 2018 |
steveosaz:shut up if u want to see another controversial account here read the interview like I keep telling u an interview of prince from Lagos ruling family even akiolu said he never claimed Benin own Lagos. Like I keep telling u and it’s being said by prince Adebiyi all the false claim are by hungry people and just politics. The true historical account is in what the British document a non bias Europeans not what people started making up in their backyard after some drink of ogogoro.
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| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moneywomen17(m): 8:44am On Jun 23, 2018*. Modified: 9:00am On Jun 23, 2018 |
steveosaz:who are this elite group in ikorodu who trace their origin to Benin and are u sayin benin owns ikorodu cuz I only know of one Benin descendant who migrated to ikorodu and the king made chief just like chief oloton in Benin a person who traced his origin to ife too. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moneywomen17(m): 8:47am On Jun 23, 2018 |
steveosaz:what is there to counter all he was saying was story u know wat Yoruba called alo wit no source whatsoever and I know ibo ways regarding Lagos. But if that’s the best source u have tell us right now and unbiased people reading this thread can know and laugh at ur foolishness |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by steveosaz(m): 9:02am On Jun 23, 2018 |
Moneywomen17:Stop being a dishonest fool. First of all, the so called prince Adebiyi is a contender for the seat of the Oba. He is part of those who has a court case with the monarch. But while you want to quote Adebiyi denying Benin ownership of Lagos, the man also denounces the yorubas as strangers too. See it in the screenshot.
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| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moneywomen17(m): 9:09am On Jun 23, 2018 |
steveosaz:like I said my point prove all controversial the one u posted and the one I posted each contradict each view cuz they are hungry boys taking one side. Price Adebiyi is a bonafide son of Lagos a prince who said awori owns Lagos not bini, not Yoruba. The awori are Yoruba that’s a fact perphaps he means the particular sub tribe of Yoruba awori not other Yoruba either way doesn’t matter another real lagosian clearly state Benin Doesn’t own the land even oba akiolu says so too. But do u know who are not hungry boys like the people u listed up there and I listed is the British with historical account of the moment long before any of this modern pseudo historians are born and they documented who owns Lagos island and it’s none other than the Yoruba end of discussion if u like bring another hungry boy I go bring my own hungry boys at the end of the day the historical document written not Mumbo jumbo state who clearly own the land. Thank god British wrote things down
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| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by steveosaz(m): 9:19am On Jun 23, 2018 |
Moneywomen17:Now you are coming to the table. The point is; the whites are also subjective because they asked the opinions of these people you call 'hungry boys' before forming Thiers. The only advantage they had is that they were able to read and write before people on this clime, but that doesn't mean what they write can be taken as authority. When a white man writes about what happened in Europe, I wouldn't doubt that, but when a white man is coming to tell stories in Africa, he is mostly advancing the opinions of subjectivity especially in contentious topics such as this. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moneywomen17(m): 9:35am On Jun 23, 2018 |
steveosaz:see ur life so when the British came to Lagos everybody during the time said it was Yoruba land not edo. When white land somewhere they communicate with the lander both the leader and the citizen and document everything and all what they documented about their interactions only points to yoruba. The politics of today of which even ibo are claiming Lagos despite them not knowing what or where Lagos was before the British and bitter angry people giving different false account in interview with no source but just their own stupid opinions holds no water. If the words of the British or the Europeans who travelled and documented things hold no water then we might as well discard every thing that they have said and start listening to modern day pseudo historians who are already claiming their people are from the Middle East and claiming Hebrew and Jew. There is no reason to lie about who ur people are hundreds or two hundreds years ago to the foreigner British in the 19c but there is definitely reason to distort history now in the 21st century simple as that. In the case the only genuine historical document written by British regarding their colony which was their first colony is the right account any other is just trash and fraud simple as that. And during the time of the British it was not a contentious topic it’s only contentious right now due to recent distortion from some camp the British remains a good authority regarding a colony which was theirs from 1862 to 1960 almost 100 years. U don’t spend close to 100 years in a place without knowing the root of the place beyond the words of the lander.
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| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by steveosaz(m): 9:48am On Jun 23, 2018 |
Moneywomen17:Dudue, you are confused and irredeemably lost. You contradict yourself effortlessly. You are here writing down jargons and posting crap, in another breath, you claim you would keep bringing 'hungry boys' to back up your baseless claims. These same hungry boys are the ones feeding the white man with opinions riddled with subjectivity. Anyway, you are only 17, ask your elders. I won't talk to you henceforth! |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moneywomen17(m): 9:50am On Jun 23, 2018 |
Tired of replying edo boys regarding Lagos island using source from hungry distorteres or ibo story teller as refrence. If anybody want authentic historical source about Lagos here is one below from a non bias foreigner the British. Any further argument with me regarding Lagos will just involve me posting the same authentic source. Historical document shows the owner of the land, the language, culture and tradition, monarch and the food points to the same people as the owner of the land. My point is proven.
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| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moneywomen17(m): 9:54am On Jun 23, 2018 |
steveosaz:shut up there. Point where I said I will bring hungry boys to prove my claim I posted the hungry boys alone from the same “bonafide lagosian” that u posted to show they are both contradicting themselves and u cannot believe one without believing the other if u claim ur authority are the “Lagos bonafide indigene” my only prove which I keep showing has always been the historical document from the British before the hungry boys were even born. I will post it again for u and if being old has not made u to have sense what will a fool at 40 like u is a fool forever u know that and there is nothing subjective about the 19c when the British came that will allow not only the monarch and ruling class and citizen to denounce edo and claim they were Yoruba but what is subjective is today hungry boys speaking from both side of their mouth with both prince, elder, citizen contradicting them selves being influenced by outside politics that’s subjectivity. The monarch were the ruling class of back then not like today and they identified themselves pretty well to the British and that’s Yoruba. Anyway am out of this thread for now
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| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by steveosaz(m): 10:39am On Jun 23, 2018 |
Moneywomen17:Highlighted in bold is what convinced me you are lost. It would only amount to a waste of time engaging you any further. Layi Ajayi-Obembe is still alive for you to consult. You like many other yorubas(excluding the Awori) are simply atohunrinwa as far as the Lagos question is concerned. Good luck with your delusion. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by gregyboy(m): 11:35am On Jun 23, 2018 |
Moneywomen17:I would have to school you again .... “ Izoduwa ekaladeran” was his name not imoduwa In the early years benins purely adopted thier own name excluding thier fathers name as time went on. contact with the europeans they started adopting thier fathers name along side thier name to help show family lineage but then benin used greetings as a means for identification of ones linage.instead of expecting ekaladeran izoduwa owodo .note ekaladeran izoduwa are both is name both are used interchangble when describing his story... Again why do u believe the story is false ...at the primitive period of men ostracizing or banishment was a means of punishment ...the african as you know in days of olds married many wives and they gave birth to many children and the number of the family determines the wealth of a man not to say a king ... Ogiso owodo was worried like all kings will do if they married many wives and only begot a son the rest remained barren if he even decide to accept it that way its gonna be a mockery to him by his subject not only that the pressure from his other wives to find solution to thier problems why dey are barren ... He simply sought a chief priest whom told him to sacrifice is only son... He did pain him to loose only son but he had to do it to please his kingdom and his wives |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moneywomen17(m): 6:26pm On Jun 23, 2018 |
gregyboy:trash trash trash didn’t bother to read it na waste of my time |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moneywomen17(m): 6:41pm On Jun 23, 2018 |
steveosaz:close ur mouth u are making no sense. Is layi ajayi bembe an historian. He is a “bonafide son” of Lagos just like prince Adebiyi is and they both grant an interview and said two different things. The only reason u believe ajayi version is cuz it suits ur lie but u discard Adebiyi own cuz it doesn’t that has been my point exactly. If the words from “bonafide indigene” is ur source why choose which one to believe. U have to believe everything don’t u meanwhile the British historical document that doesn’t have any contradictory view and existed by before modern distorter still remains my ultimate source nothing more and here is it again below for u to read and digest. I don’t know wat U mean about atohunrinwa or whatever but am sure it’s trash and the only deluded person who keeps trying to counter actual historical document written by unbiased outsider the British with modern pseudo non historians who u called “bonafide lagosian” I mean the fact that the each of the “bonafide Lagosians” contradict each other view will show someone with common sense that it’s not reliable but what do I know according to steveosaz ajayi bembe oral account someone who was not alive during the time is better than the people which were the British who were alive and experience it first hand and wrote it down. A fool at 40.
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| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Olu317(m): 6:57pm On Jun 23, 2018 |
Moneywomen17:Not easy as it seems. Take it easy ,my dear. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by gregyboy(m): 8:31pm On Jun 23, 2018 |
Moneywomen17:No p.... But moneywomen17 pls i need a picture or any prove showing oba of benin shrine at ife where the oba of benin buried thier heads in ife ....it is a well renowed statement in the nation with the help of fone lets realy prove it truthfulness ....if you can justify it.with a tangible prove not just a written prove but a picture showing it even probably an head on an oba if necessarily... I would join the yorubas to attack the edos.... |
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