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gregyboy:
I would have to school you again ....

“ Izoduwa ekaladeran” was his name not imoduwa
In the early years benins purely adopted thier own name excluding thier fathers name as time went on. contact with the europeans they started adopting thier fathers name along side thier name to help show family lineage but then benin used greetings as a means for identification of ones linage.instead of expecting ekaladeran izoduwa owodo .note ekaladeran izoduwa are both is name both are used interchangble when describing his story...

Again why do u believe the story is false ...at the primitive period of men ostracizing or banishment was a means of punishment ...the african as you know in days of olds married many wives and they gave birth to many children and the number of the family determines the wealth of a man not to say a king ...
Ogiso owodo was worried like all kings will do if they married many wives and only begot a son the rest remained barren if he even decide to accept it that way its gonna be a mockery to him by his subject not only that the pressure from his other wives to find solution to thier problems why dey are barren ...
He simply sought a chief priest whom told him to sacrifice is only son... He did pain him to loose only son but he had to do it to please his kingdom and his wives

gregyboy:
Hmm...regarding my previous comment dat the edos wasn't notice meaning thier culture were not notice and thier pop was not much to recong with....u shld use your head to
..must i explain it logically ahh...and i never claimed in all my comment with u dat lagos was an edo land but a benin territory but the part which was made camp by the edo is an edo land in lagos the rest may belong to the yorubas..
And again i gave u the best answer why the call him oba but yet u still want to reason fairytales again ....“wise boy” ok tell me king in english means ruler ,oba in benin also mean ruler so why would the britsh use thier own word for ruler for an africa king who trace its origin to a popular dynasty every where in the world has thier world for king “wise boy” king is for the britsh oba is for edo ...

Lol wise boy u have started on fairytales again the britsh was the one who stoped oba of lagos from paying tribute to Benin this mean that whosoever was king when the British came mainted the duke lineage.... Ur just spilling jargons dat keture married edo woman like you were there.....logically speaking they wobt there to change d linage and put thiers for the fear of oba of benin this happened to owo in d 18c....

This is a link pls read with an open mind....
https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.edo-nation.net/beneko.htm&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjg0NHgpvHbAhWJbVAKHYWyBAgQFjAJegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw3yGdXC26TfWB2ITMFhWtBV

If u doubt d story feel free to argue with me...then we will reason it logically

Christistruth00:
And from Joao Alfonso D’Aveiro of Portugal (Navigator) who visited the Oba of Benin in 1486[i][/i]

Christistruth00:
From the Yorubas Obas conference 1937 proceedings
Hosted by Sir Bernard Boudillon Governor General of Nigeria
on 31st March and 1st April 1937



Quoting last paragraph of first page:

“The Chiefs were seated in a horse-shoe formation, with the Oni of Ife ,as the head of the town from which all Yorubas have traditionally sprung , at the centre ,and the Alaafin of Oyo at the western and the Oba of benin at the eastern end, an arrangement which gave general satisfaction.”

Christistruth00:
From the Yorubas Obas conference 1937 proceedings
Hosted by Sir Bernard Boudillon Governor General of Nigeria
on 31st March and 1st April 1937



Quoting last paragraph of first page:

“The Chiefs were seated in a horse-shoe formation, with the Oni of Ife ,as the head of the town from which all Yorubas have traditionally sprung , at the centre ,and the Alaafin of Oyo at the western and the Oba of benin at the eastern end, an arrangement which gave general satisfaction.”


I see no oba of benin in that pics all i see is a sketch of how d kings are supoosed to sit which was probably done by the yorubas or the britsg ignorance...the British knew very well edo birthed yoruba nations but payed blind eyes to it to punish benins further more for the killings of the British peopke even after the expendition war

gregyboy:
Oga pls dont lemme use Nigeria loss face u dis morning... Ahh ..so wat do i mean na...onni who is a chief priest preceded over d oba of Benin are u high..the falling oduduwa is a myth ...you nd ur brothers starts oduduwas story from were benin came to collect bck their son but exclude the part wehe he migrrated from but form stories to cover that up ...ooni sitting at the centre is a misplacement on the people ...the British did d best to favour him because he was a puppet putting oba of benin at d centre would have been treat to d British they did thier best to disgrace oba and favour the weaknly ooni have u fact right

Christistruth00:
And from Benin Historian Jacob Egharevba

gregyboy:
Egharevba wasnt wrong in what he said yoruba just missuoted his intentions....

He said oba of benin came from ife which he was not wrong but failed to say the reason why d oba of benin had to beem sent forth from ife and was was the connection from ife to benin

Moneywomen17:
they will soon tell u Joao document is false and Joao had a vendetta against the Oba Of Benin lol

Ashiru97:
Mr English lecturer , am not here to have a war of word with you, but let me explain this to you, i choose to type the way i want so far my message is understandable. And for you to type all these trash, that shows your brain has being reek by inferiority Complex, that is why your people believe until they get to abroad they can never succeed, and that is why you always end up as slave and prostitute in libya. I think you need to see physiatrics to check your medulla oblongata you this fool, people like you can only belong to a curse and impoverished tribe, you this nonentity and a twonk and lest i forget your tribe is a minority that nobody it exist.

gregyboy:
Egharevba wasnt wrong in what he said yoruba just missuoted his intentions....

He said oba of benin came from ife which he was not wrong but failed to say the reason why d oba of benin had to beem sent forth from ife and was was the connection from ife to benin

Moneywomen17:
shut up dumbass is Wikipedia a verifiable source u do know anybody can write and edit on Wikipedia right so shut the Bleep up. Every thing documented about Benin was it not by the Europeans especially the Portuguese and tell me were they not told by the lander. Once more the British stayed in Lagos for 98 years they spoke to the landers make their own observations and wrote it down simple and this is what they came up with below with a historical document written in the time period. The colony of Lagos was Yoruba land and it does not belong to Benin like u guys and ur brother in crime ibo have been claiming on Nairaland. Now unless u find any historical document written by the British that is contrary to the document below u are grasping at straw in this “argument” and stop saying the British had any personal vendetta against ur village king they fought ur village and conquer it like the conquer many places in Nigeria and Africa and simply documented it there is no bias like u liars claim.

davidnazee:
I see that you are another misinformed Yoruba man or just twisting true accounts which is a common thing for the Yorubas..
Or should I say the Yorubas can only discuss history starting from post colonial Nigeria.

All these divisions you mentioned were created in recent times and didn't exit pre-colonial times.. I guess you know that but as usual will choose to lie about it.
In earlier times the area know as Lagos was only restricted to the island of lagos and Iddo island. The main land part of lagos was unpopulated and wasn't part of Lagos till recent times.
The Aworis who were mainly hunters and fishermen occupied the Iddo Island.. What is fairly certain is that the Awori settlement in Lagos was earlier than that of the Benin which eventually subjugated the emergent settlement. Lagos Island was an unoccupied territory at that time and did not belong to the Aworis, neither was main land Lagos Awori territory (you cannot claim an unoccupied area because you are close it).. The Yorubas were never part of Lagos. They migrated to the area when Lagos began to develop in a formidable settlement.

The Edo warriors were the first settlers on Lagos Island which served as a military camp and from there they carried out their expeditions in to west africa.. Over the years the warriors paved way for their families and also Edo traders to settle in Lagos Island and the camp began to take shape from just a military camp into a city.

Yoruba elements started migrating to and settled on the lagos mainland in later years after the Island of Lagos has become a booming city and trading center. As wars began plaguing the Yoruba lands more Yorubas started migrating to Lagos mainland till the danger of an attack by he warring tribes plaguing Yorubaland drove them to seek the security of the nearest island, Iddo, from where they spread to Eko. These Yoruba traders and war refugees were the first wave of Yorubas in Lagos.
The second wave of Yorubas into Lagos were the returnee slaves. By 1851 after the abolition of the slave trade, there was a great attracton to Lagos by the repatriates. Mainly freed Yoruba captives and their descendants who have been set ashore in Sierra leone, responded to the pull of their homeland and returned in successive waves to Lagos. They were granted land to settle in areas of the island.

The areas of Badagry, Ikorodu and Epe Local Governments were never part of Lagos. These areas were only merged as part of Lagos by the British at the end of the 19th century.

Any history of Lagos always accounts the Aworis and the Edos as the first settlers of Lagos. The Aworis never identified as Yoruba hundreds of years ago, but were assimilated into the yoruba culture in later years. Yorubas are migrants to Lagos.. Yoruba lands closeness to Lagos accounts for its large numbers in Lagos..

As I always say; Lagos was founded by Benin Kingdom and built by the collective efforts and wealth of all Nigerians (Ibo, Hausas, etc).. If Nigeria breaks up as being drummed by some Yoruba elements, Lagos will be a war booty.

gregyboy:
U just make me laff ..neither am gonna believe d fuckinf British write up yprubas also influence their writing so as the British did everything at thier best to demolished Benin so u don't expect to believe i would rather believe the benin who documented history through out again if oba of benin is a village king am just imgining d glorified ooni or alafin would be i know d female dahomey raped ur kingdom during war took ur people as slaves nupes caught ur empire under seizage for centuries ur shrine onni came from benin...

Village king hahaha i know you are high thats what ur moniker say

Tell me y ur kingdom is not z villagw rather than mine

davidnazee:
Thank you bro for a very enlightening piece.
I have asked them same question before when they said Aworis invited Benin. Why would the Aworis bypass all the Yorubas kingdoms and come to Benin?
Even if it is true that Aworis came to Benin for help then doesn’t that proves Benin was a mightier, more powerful kingdom than all the Yorubas kingdoms and the Aworis must have seen Benin conquer and ruling over Yoruba lands hence it came to Benin for help.

The problem with the Yorubas is that no matter how much they lie and twist the truth their stories will always work against them and show that Benin was more powerful than Yoruba and ruled over the Yorubas.

gregyboy:
U just make me laff ..neither am gonna believe d fuckinf British write up yprubas also influence their writing so as the British did everything at thier best to demolished Benin so u don't expect to believe i would rather believe the benin who documented history through out again if oba of benin is a village king am just imgining d glorified ooni or alafin would be i know d female dahomey raped ur kingdom during war took ur people as slaves nupes caught ur empire under seizage for centuries ur shrine onni came from benin...

Village king hahaha i know you are high thats what ur moniker say

Tell me y ur kingdom is not z villagw rather than mine

Christistruth00:
And from Joao Alfonso D’Aveiro of Portugal (Navigator) who visited the Oba of Benin in 1486[i][/i]

Obalufon:
your war general Ologbesere was executed like a dog picture before execution by the askaris

Olu317:
Please kindly pull down the picture. It is not WORTH IT.

ODU A GBE WA LA'SÉ ÈLÈDUMARÈ

PVision2020:
Oba of Benin , Oba Ewuare II , has just arrived at the palace of the Ooni of Ife , Oba Adeyeye Ogunwusi , for a visit .

The Oba arrived at the palace in Ile -Ife at 1: 15 pm with his chiefs and some dignitaries from the ancient city of Benin .

Prominent traditional rulers and notable indigenes of Ife , who joined the Ooni to receive the Benin monarch are the Orangun of Ila , Oba Wahab Oyedotun, traditional rulers from Ile Ife and Dr. John Odeyemi .

Oba Ewuare II first went to the residence of the Ooni
Security was beefed up around the Ooni ’s Palace at Enuwa in Ile- Ife as an armoured personnel carrier, armed policemen and other security agents were stationed at the entrance .

Cultural troupes from Benin , entertainers , and drummers from Ile -Ife started drumming , singing and dancing as early as 10 am inside the hall where Oba Ewuare was received .

http://www.punchng.com/breaking-oba-of-benin-arrives-oonis-palace-for-visit/

Obalufon:
Thanks bro ..God bless house of Oduduwa

module:
"I therefore stand before you today as the 40th Oba of Benin A direct descendant of Oromiyan, the son of Oduduwa who the Benin people of that era knew as Ekharaderan, their self exiled Prince who later became ruler in IIe Ife, the Benin people recognized Oduduwa and his origin but it is not in our place to force this recognition on others outside our boundaries. The history of the world, is a shared one and they will certainly be unexpected connections in future. This is a time for unity and not divisiveness’. A time for mutual respect, recognizing that our wholeness as equals is so much more than some of our past. - OBA OF BENIN

module:
"I therefore stand before you today as the 40th Oba of Benin A direct descendant of Oromiyan, the son of Oduduwa who the Benin people of that era knew as Ekharaderan, their self exiled Prince who later became ruler in IIe Ife, the Benin people recognized Oduduwa and his origin but it is not in our place to force this recognition on others outside our boundaries. The history of the world, is a shared one and they will certainly be unexpected connections in future. This is a time for unity and not divisiveness’. A time for mutual respect, recognizing that our wholeness as equals is so much more than some of our past. - OBA OF BENIN