Freddonance:

wider than you can ever imagine

then kindly enlighten us please....

God bless you bro! Continue what you are doing coz I'm following. Don't mind those dogs barking, they're just ordinary thread derailers.

Shameful thread by a helpless charlatan.

MrBigiman:
Shameful thread by a helpless charlatan.

MrBigiman greetings

MrBigiman:
Shameful thread by a helpless charlatan.

if it was to be your so-called wardboys, would you have uttered such?

bmlsbmls:

if it was to be your so-called wardboys, would you have uttered such?

They wouldn't be so dumb and deficient in knowledge as my friend who tries to give out what he doesn't have.

Apart from the fact he doesn't know the "predominant"
mode of transmission of HBV in different regions of the world, equating cirrhosis with cancer is very unprofessional of even a final year medlab student.
I suspect the boy is a Jambite.

You are indeed very childish and immature. Those errors are easily sorted.


This is not a classroom and I think errrors can be managed without insults that is what adults do.

If you were in a meeting with a non medic and they made an obvious howler would you tell them to their face they are a Jambite.

You obviously have no experience of Multidisciplinary working and quite clearly are an obnoxious little bully.


The reality is members of the public do not reallly care about your self iindulgent pedantry.

The issues are

Hepatitis B is a serious condition that is transmitted byy contact with body fluid

In Nigeria and Africa generally this is very common from mother to child in the perinatal period.

The vrus is very infectious and can be transmitted among members of the same household.

Also from blood transfusion or sharing needles, razors etc. Theoretically it can be got from the barber, and from tattoo or body piercing equipment

The virus causes an illness after which it is either eliminated from the body OR in some cases the individual becomes a "CARRIER" and the virus "hides" in the liver indefiinitely.

It can later cause serious disease of the liver and potentially be transmitted to sexual partners etc.

Infection can be prevented by avoiding risk factors and also by a vaccine.

The vaccine is relatively new and not routinely administered around the world. However some countries have adopted the vaccine as a routine for all children and it is compulsory for health workers like surgeons.


All of this is stuff that can easily be understood by any person with secondary school education and there is no justification for the self indulgent arrogance and insolence we have seen on this thread.


My take is it is a good idea to get the vaccine if available where you are thogh many people find that they are immune having had an infection without being aware perhaps mistaking the hepatitis illness when it occurred for something else e,g malaria.
I do not see any reason why this information should be considered the preserve of doctors.

Much of the science that went into understanding the condition was established by scientists who are not doctors.

I will point out something controversial but factual. Almost 100% of doctors are not scientists. They are technicians who operrate or run algorithms, protocols or guidelines of care that are developed by scientists but they are not scientists.

In facts the vast majority of doctors do not do any single experiment after leaving medical school. What does this tell us?


Let us respect everyone and stop this childishness

aribisala0:
You are indeed very childish and immature. Those errors are easily sorted.


This is not a classroom and I think errrors can be managed without insults that is what adults do.

If you were in a meeting with a non medic and they made an obvious howler would you tell them to their face they are a Jambite.

You obviously have no experience of Multidisciplinary working and quite clearly are an obnoxious little bully.


The reality is members of the public do not reallly care about your self iindulgent pedantry.

The issues are

Hepatitis B is a serious condition that is transmitted byy contact with body fluid

In Nigeria and Africa generally this is very common from mother to child in the perinatal period.

The vrus is very infectious and can be transmitted among members of the same household.

Also from blood transfusion or sharing needles, razors etc. Theoretically it can be got from the barber, and from tattoo or body piercing equipment

The virus causes an illness after which it is either eliminated from the body OR in some cases the individual becomes a "CARRIER" and the virus "hides" in the liver indefiinitely.

It can later cause serious disease of the liver and potentially be transmitted to sexual partners etc.

Infection can be prevented by avoiding risk factors and also by a vaccine.

The vaccine is relatively new and not routinely administered around the world. However some countries have adopted the vaccine as a routine for all children and it is compulsory for health workers like surgeons.


All of this is stuff that can easily be understood by any person with secondary school education and there is no justification for the self indulgent arrogance and insolence we have seen on this thread.


My take is it is a good idea to get the vaccine if available where you are thogh many people find that they are immune having had an infection without being aware perhaps mistaking the hepatitis illness when it occurred for something else e,g malaria.
I do not see any reason why this information should be considered the preserve of doctors.

Much of the science that went into understanding the condition was established by scientists who are not doctors.

I will point out something controversial but factual. Almost 100% of doctors are not scientists. They are technicians who operrate or run algorithms, protocols or guidelines of care that are developed by scientists but they are not scientists.

In facts the vast majority of doctors do not do any single experiment after leaving medical school. What does this tell us?


Let us respect everyone and stop this childishness

Quite funny. who are those scientists? are they medlab scientists? pls reply

Freddonance:

Quite funny. who are those scientists? are they medlab scientists? pls reply

Lol

they do not have to be


That is not relevaant to this thread though might be crucial to your self esteem

Fact is doctors are technicians

aribisala0:
Lol

they do not have to be


That is not relevaant to this thread to might be crucial to your self esteem

Fact is doctors are technicians

Lemme ask u this. Who is a scientist?

Freddonance:

Lemme ask u this. Who is a scientist?

Go and find out by yourself.Did you pay me school fees?
You have learnt how to type
WHO IS A SCIENTIST? Congrats



go and ask Buhari
get out of my face

Most doctors are not trained to critically appraise research papers.
Doctors generally are consumers (rather than producers) of research by real scientists.

Doctors are simply technicians many are good at remembering what they read in textbooks but have no idea how stuff gets into textbooks. Many have been trained though T or F conditioning to view textbooks as bibles without any understanding of how stuff gets there.


One clown up there was sneering at the stated predominant mode of transmission.

My question to the fool would be

Describe an experiment to demonstrate how hepatitis B is trasmitted in Ikeja Local government Area and they will start stammering because it is not in their textbooks

aribisala0:
Most doctors are not trained to critically appraise research papers.
Doctors generally are consumers (rather than producers) of research by real scientists.

Doctors are simply technicians many are good at remembering what they read in textbooks but have no idea how stuff gets into textbooks. Many have been trained though T or F conditioning to view textbooks as bibles without any understanding of how stuff gets there.


One clown up there was sneering at the stated predominant mode of transmission.

My question to the fool would be

Describe an experiment to demonstrate how hepatitis B is trasmitted in Ikeja Local government Area and they will start stammering because it is not in their textbooks

Doctors are technicians!!! Bitterness should have a limit. An upgraded technician turns back at those who gave him a hand of fellowship, and call them technicians. NCBI is an American achive of Journals. Go there, enter the health and Medical section and see who head 98% of the Medical research.

Bitterness is understandable. But becoming petty, and spewing falsities to look sane is gross insanity.

aribisala0:
Lol

they do not have to be


That is not relevaant to this thread though might be crucial to your self esteem

Fact is doctors are technicians

a person employed to look after
technical equipment or do practical
work in a laboratory.

That's the dictionary definition of technicians. That's exactly what Lab Scientist, who are fighting to be consultants were employed to do. Lab scientist will remain technicians for a long time coming.

MrBigiman:


Doctors are technicians!!! Bitterness should have a limit. An upgraded technician turns back at those who gave him a hand of fellowship, and call them technicians. NCBI is an American achive of Journals. Go there, enter the health and Medical section and see who head 98% of the Medical research.

Bitterness is understandable. But becoming petty, and spewing falsities to look sane is gross insanity.

For me my appearance here is not personal. I do not take these things personal.
People like you insist on doing so



First of all answer why I am bitter. If you cannot say or explain what I am bitter about then please shut up and do not quote me any more.

I sincerely look forward to hearing the cause of my bitterness

MrBigiman:


a person employed to look after
technical equipment or do practical
work in a laboratory.

That's the dictionary definition of technicians. That's exactly what Lab Scientist, who are fighting to be consultants were employed to do. Lab scientist will remain technicians for a long time coming.

What you have provided is the definitiion of

LABORATORY TECHNICIAN

Reading English and comprehension is not your forte.

Go back to the place you copied your nonsense from and read it again ............. SLOWLY

Technicians can be anywhere not necessarily in laboratories.
In fact most technicians have nothing to do with laboratories

Pilots, drivers, Herdsmen, butchers even pornstars AND doctors are all technicians

Cristiano Ronaldo is a technician. Indeed he is a Master technician in his craft

When you go back to your dictionary I expect you to humbly shut up and keep your mouth closed for a long time

aribisala0:


For me my appearance here is not personal. I do not take these things personal.
People like you insist on doing so



First of all answer why I am bitter. If you cannot say or explain what I am bitter about then please shut up and do not quote me any more.

I sincerely look forward to hearing the cause of my bitterness

Forget about u it young man. U are bitter. Anyone claiming a Doctor is a Technician is bitter.

MrBigiman:


Forget about u it young man. U are bitter. Anyone claiming a Doctor is a Technician is bitter.

Your problem is illiteracy or semi-literacy.

There is a difference between "technician" and "Technician" , doctors are technicians. There are other categories of worker called Technician.

These fundamental lacunae in your education are not too late to retrieve and remedy.

This is an anonymous forum so let us stick to the issues.

I never introduced myself to you as a man or young. You only reveal your insecurity with condescending or patronizing rhetoric.

What is it I am "bitterR" about?


If you have followed the development of medical education curricula over the last 30 years at postgraduate and undergraduate level then you cannot be so blissfully oblivious about complaints by senior medics at conferences and in the literature about being turned into technicians with very rigid categories of disease and treatment protocols and guidelines and an increasingly litigious society. In short doctors are trained and expected to follow algorithms that can be fed into computers wth computers performing consistently better than traained specialists in ALL objective theoretical testing.
This is very TECHNICAL and doctors have been moaning about this for over 20 years in WRITING.This phenomenon has advanced in that time.

Folk like you instead of avoiding issues which you are clueless about must dive in, you must have an opinion,you must talk and be heard at the full blast of your vacuity and when pushed it is : " young man you are bitter" . No I am salty and spicy not bitter.


Leave all that nonsense out and speaK to Hepatitis B>

aribisala0:
Tec

Your problem is illiteracy or semi-lieracy.

There is a difference between "technician" and "Technician" , doctors are technicians. There are other ccategories of worker called Technian. These fundamental lacunae in your education are not too late to remedy.

This is an anonymous forum so let us stick to the issues. I never introduced myself to you as a man or young. You only reveal your insecurity with condescending or patronizing rhetoric.

What is it I am "bitterR" about?


If you have followed the developmen of medical education curricula oer the last 30 years at postgraduate and undergraduate level then you cannot be so blissfully oblivious about complaints by senior medics at conferences and in the literature about being turned into technicians with very rigid categories of disease and treatment protocols and guidelines and an increasingly litigious society. In short doctors are trained and expected to follow algorithms that are fed into computers wth computers performing consistently better than traained specialists in ALL objective testing.
This is very TECHNICAL and doctors have been moaning about this for over 20 years in WRITING.This phenomenon has advanced in that time.

Folk like you instead of avoiding issues which you are clueless about must dive in, youu must have an opinion,you must talk and be heard at the full blast of your vacuity and when pushed it is : " young man you are bitter" . No I am salty and spicy not bitter.


Leave all that nonsense out and speaK to Hepatitis B>

I know a Femi Aribisala, and if u are related then I need not worry much. Guidelines and protocols are now designed by computers says a helpless Johesu noise maker.

Doctors will still remain leaders in designing treatment guidelines and protocols, and other health workers either comply or fall off the radar. The guidelines and protocols ensure uniformity and protect patients from being mistreated. It is the same guideline and protocols that Johesu in Nigeria kick against vehemently.

It is common knowledge that the only true professionals in the hospitals are Doctors and pharmacists. All others are glorified and upgraded technicians.

MrBigiman:


I know a Femi Aribisala, and if u are related then I need not worry much. Guidelines and protocols are now designed by computers says a helpless Johesu noise maker.

Doctors will still remain leaders in designing treatment guidelines and protocols, and other health workers either comply or fall off the radar. The guidelines and protocols ensure uniformity and protect patients from being mistreated. It is the same guideline and protocols that Johesu in Nigeria kick against vehemently.

It is common knowledge that the only true professionals in the hospitals are Doctors and pharmacists. All others are glorified and upgraded technicians.

You cannot read.

You are illiterate.

Where did I say that guidelines and protocols are designed by computers?


This thread is not about doctors and how they are half a step below God.

It is not about YOU>

I am not interested in you or your biography .

Subdue your ego and compulsive need to be noticed

let us discuss Hepattiis B otherwise please stay on your lane

aribisala0:


You cannot read.

You are illiterate.

Where did I say that guidelines and protocols are designed by computers?


This thread is not about doctors and how they are half a step below God.

It is not about YOU>

I am not interested in you or your biography .

Subdue your ego and compulsive need to be noticed

let us discuss Hepattiis B otherwise please stay on your lane

so what do you wanna discuss about hepatitis??
is it the pathology or the symptomatology? or the diagnostic approaches/management?

aribisala0:


You cannot read.

You are illiterate.

Where did I say that guidelines and protocols are designed by computers?


This thread is not about doctors and how they are half a step below God.

It is not about YOU>

I am not interested in you or your biography .

Subdue your ego and compulsive need to be noticed

let us discuss Hepatis B otherwise please stay on your lane

This thread is dead from the outset. Ur verbose words gives it no life. If I am woken up from sleep to give a talk on diabetes, pulmonary TB, hepatitis, etc I will give a fine and convincing talk.

But for a struggling technician to claim Hepatitis B from a Lab scientist perspective is gross sacriledge, that can only be committed in this shit hole.

A lab scientist should give me a HBSAG result. He should further show me the envelop and core AB and Ag, as these will allow me determine infectivity. He should finally tell me the viral count. Any other thing apart from these is unquantifiable stupidity, and a single credit will not be given.

The truth is better, but Mr Bigiman has been in the forefront of keeping Johesu liars in their place and saying the truth for sanity in our health sector.

Because of this ugly post, intruders entered the group asking people to check their signature, and how they cure hepatitis B. These intruders are definitely Johesu members, who cure all sort of ailment with becham.

Stay on ur lame young man.

MrBigiman:


This thread is dead from the outset. Ur verbose words gives it no life. If I am woken up from sleep to give a talk on diabetes, pulmonary TB, hepatitis, etc I will give a fine and convincing talk.

But for a struggling technician to claim Hepatitis B from a Lab scientist perspective is gross sacriledge, that can only be committed in this shit hole.

A lab scientist should give me a HBSAG result. He should further show me the envelop and core AB and Ag, as these will allow me determine infectivity. He should finally tell me the viral count. Any other thing apart from these is unquantifiable stupidity, and a single credit will not be given.

The truth is better, but Mr Bigiman has been in the forefront of keeping Johesu liars in their place and saying the truth for sanity in our health sector.

Because of this ugly post, intruders entered the group asking people to check their signature, and how they cure hepatitis B. These intruders are definitely Johesu members, who cure all sort of ailment with becham.

Stay on ur lame young man.

YOU are the most important subject in your world we have heard.

Can you STFU about you.

JOHESU

You are funny

aribisala0:


YOU are the most important subject in your world we have heard.

Can you STFU about you.

JOHESU

You are funny

I don't mind giving a concise but intelligent lecture on hepatitis. Not this over watered piece of gibberish being dished out by an excited Scientist.

Nobody is funnier than u here. Ur trying to hold on to a facade make u and all Johesu members subject of cheap ridicule. Biobelemoye promised the uneducated touts that he'll use thuggery, lies, stupidity and bribery to equate Johesu members with Doctors. Today the obese man has left every man to his tent, after gulping the largese handed him by disgruntled members in the form of membership fees.

Use the money for membership fees to buy JAMB form and study Medicine if u want to be a Doctor. Coming here to diagnose and treat ailment from a lab scientist perspective displays ur arrogance, ignorance and petulance in full glare.

I am Mr Bigiman, and I stand with the truth.

Lab Scientists , Bloggers , commercial sex workers, Food handlers and volunteer workers are all appropriate people to give advice about HepB with adequate training.
This does not have to be technical

Some of The key issues to be shared with the public are that

1. it is caused by a virus called the Hepatitis B Virus( There are other Hepatitis virus eg Hepaatitis A )
it is sexually trasmitted
2 It can be transmitted by other intimate contact withing the household from body fluids
3.. It causes an acute illness which may be mistaken for something else or not even remembered
4 After this most people clear the virus from their systems and become immune
5. A small number do not clear the virus and it stay dormant in the Liver and sometimes may be infective
So it is important to know the status of your partner and other household members
Chck your status as some carriers have no idea
6. It can be prevented by vaccination which is compulsory for health workers to protect them and their patients
7 those that do not clear the virus may later on develop more serious live disease shortening their lives and this is importaant for alcohol users.
I think these are easy to understand concepts and the idea that it is sacrilegious for any one not a doctor to discuss these things is petty in the extreme.

This is the Information era and information is available to the public easily now

MrBigiman:


I don't mind giving a concise but intelligent lecture on hepatitis. Not this over watered piece of gibberish being dished out by an excited Scientist.

Nobody is funnier than u here. Ur trying to hold on to a facade make u and all Johesu members subject of cheap ridicule. Biobelemoye promised the uneducated touts that he'll use thuggery, lies, stupidity and bribery to equate Johesu members with Doctors. Today the obese man has left every man to his tent, after gulping the largese handed him by disgruntled members in the form of membership fees.

Use the money for membership fees to buy JAMB form and study Medicine if u want to be a Doctor. Coming here to diagnose and treat ailment from a lab scientist perspective displays ur arrogance, ignorance and petulance in full glare.

I am Mr Bigiman, and I stand with the truth.

pls just ignore him. The guy who created this thread has given up. we haven't seen any further post from him again after he noticed he will be rubbished should he post purulence here just to make unsuspecting Nigerians patronise his lab.

Yes the OP I think made a mistake in saying it is mostly transmitted sexually. I doubt that generally though it may be true in small poplations. In fact I did question it but I think we do not need to put people down to feel good.

That error is not enough to kill off everything

MrBigiman:


I don't mind giving a concise but intelligent lecture on hepatitis. Not this over watered piece of gibberish being dished out by an excited Scientist.

Nobody is funnier than u here. Ur trying to hold on to a facade make u and all Johesu members subject of cheap ridicule. Biobelemoye promised the uneducated touts that he'll use thuggery, lies, stupidity and bribery to equate Johesu members with Doctors. Today the obese man has left every man to his tent, after gulping the largese handed him by disgruntled members in the form of membership fees.

Use the money for membership fees to buy JAMB form and study Medicine if u want to be a Doctor. Coming here to diagnose and treat ailment from a lab scientist perspective displays ur arrogance, ignorance and petulance in full glare.

I am Mr Bigiman, and I stand with the truth.

I have no clue about or interest in your local tribal wars.

My point is any person with O level biology can discuss Hepatitis B competently after a few hours study

So do not bring in all your quarrels here

aribisala0:
Lab Scientists , Bloggers , commercial sex workers, Food handlers and volunteer workers are all appropriate people to give advice about HepB with adequate training.
This does not have to be technical

Some of The key issues to be shared with the public are that

1. it is caused by a virus called the Hepatitis B Virus( There are other Hepatitis virus eg Hepaatitis A )
it is sexually trasmitted
2 It can be transmitted by other intimate contact withing the household from body fluids
3.. It causes an acute illness which may be mistaken for something else or not even remembered
4 After this most people clear the virus from their systems and become immune
5. A small number do not clear the virus and it stay dormant in the Liver and sometimes may be infective
So it is important to know the status of your partner and other household members
Chck your status as some carriers have no idea
6. It can be prevented by vaccination which is compulsory for health workers to protect them and their patients
7 those that do not clear the virus may later on develop more serious live disease shortening their lives and this is importaant for alcohol users.
I think these are easy to understand concepts and the idea that it is sacrilegious for any one not a doctor to discuss these things is petty in the extreme.

This is the Information era and information is available to the public easily now

Accepting that u are in the information age makes u a decade backward. It's obvious where ur petulance is emanating from. It's time lag.

MrBigiman:


Accepting that u are in the information age makes u a decade backward. It's obvious where ur petulance is emanating from. It's time lag.

Back to HeepB you are one of those entities in their element when engaged in a good quarrel.

I am here to discuss HepB
Informing the public about it, how to avoid it and what to do if you have it

So It is probably a good idea for every one to get tested and get advice.

In countries where prostitution/porn industry is legal there are many commercial centres involved in testing and giving advice to the public
In Nigeria non Sexual transmission within families households and possibly hospiitals likely to be more significant. So thos working in Hospitals need to consider vaccination along with there families.

Those who are carriers may need to have their families immunized and or take antiviral treatment, best thing is to get advice from a qualified professional

Vaccination requires testing afterward to confirm that indeed immunity has been achieved

aribisala0:
Back to HeepB you are one of those entities in their element when engaged in a good quarrel.

I am here to discuss HepB
Informing the public about it, how to avoid it and what to do if you have it

So It is probably a good idea for every one to get tested and get advice.

In countries where prostitution/porn industry is legal there are many commercial centres involved in testing and giving advice to the public
In Nigeria non Sexual transmission within families households and possibly hospiitals likely to be more significant. So thos working in Hospitals need to consider vaccination along with there families.

Those who are carriers may need to have their families immunized and or take antiviral treatment, best thing is to get advice from a qualified professional

Vaccination requires testing afterward to confirm that indeed immunity has been achieved

This useless thread has gone south. A lab technician who wanted to take over treatment of HepB, and advertise his shop has been bursted.

Lies cannot thrive in this health room when I am still around. I will speak the truth, no matter how unpopular.

Is hepatitis B a health problem?, yes. can anyone talk about it?, yes. Is the topic misleading?, yes. Did he stick to a lab Scientist perspective?, No. Was he professional, and did he deal with the possible complications of hepatitis B exhaustively?, No.

Trying to learn from this thread is gross waste of time, and the reader ends up having half baked knowledge.

Bigiman.