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| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moneywomen17(m): 12:11pm On Jun 29, 2018 |
Christistruth00:of course I know this about the idejo chiefs owning Lagos land but be weary of edo boys apparently every piece of history is written by people who has a feud against Benin king. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Christistruth00: 12:52pm On Jun 29, 2018*. Modified: 2:15pm On Jun 29, 2018 |
gregyboy:Ogedengbe the generalissimo of Ilesa and Ekiti parapo forces invaded Edo territory around 1878 capturing towns and was about to overrun and take Benin city if not for the desperate attempts of the Oba of Benin and his Chiefs in pacifying him. Many Edo’s still bear the Ijesa Yoruba surname of Ogedengbe today. From an Edo website
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| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by gregyboy(m): 1:57pm On Jun 29, 2018 |
Moneywomen17:What da Bleep appreciate ife art ...if dey were asked to be returned they will return it with no delay it has no document or whatsoever ....most of the ife art was sold inexchange for goods the rest were archaeological findings in site and was given willingly to the finder's Share me the link of that page u quote all the time lemme see myself |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Christistruth00: 3:19pm On Jun 29, 2018 |
Moneywomen17:Thanks. The evidence is there, I wanted them to see a little of it. I respect Edos but this 419 lying propaganda History is not in their best interests. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by KingSango(m): 3:22pm On Jun 29, 2018 |
Moneywomen17:[b]Did you know having the masses, which are you poor people, fight with each other over tribalism is a plot of the ruling elite? You are kept poor, hungry, out of work, uneducated, and unable to rally for a change you so desperately need, do you realize that's what is happening? This is your only change for a voice on NL and you choose it to attack each other. How come? Its useless activity my young brothers. Instead of going on about the greatness of ancient kings, who was greater, become great kings of today. Unite people across ethnic groups that's how you become a great king. You may not believe it. Sango had more than Yorubas supporting him as king otherwise Oyo would not be classified as a great empire. Neither would the Edo King or Benin Emperor fail to unite other groups that would have furthered their greatness. Unite more than just your group if you want to change this Afrikan mess. Or fall short like the generation before you. The choice is yours. Ase Love Sango [/b] |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Born2Breed(f): 5:15pm On Jun 29, 2018 |
Obalufon:It's Edo. Benin is a political name just as Lagos is a political name. Benin is not in Edo lexicon. Just as Lagos is not in Yoruba lexicon. Hence Omo n'ba n'Edo or Eleko ni Eko. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Born2Breed(f): 5:20pm On Jun 29, 2018 |
[quote author=module post=68910063][/quote]Otemwen no'gie just leave these people. They don't know their history, they are the lost tribe and majority of them are children of slaves who are looking for somewhere to call a home in lekumi land. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Olu317(m): 6:56pm On Jun 29, 2018 |
Born2Breed:If you have no knowledge of history young lady,why involve on what's bigger than you? Your opinion as regard Yoruba history need not exist at all because you are ignorant of it all. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by gregyboy(m): 9:30pm On Jun 29, 2018 |
I will always say this awolowo is the ooni of yorubas ... He made yoruba history propaganded all the lies... And actualized yorubas N.b a pic was sent on this thread showing Yoruba kings meeting 1967 snd yorubss claim omo n oba was there i looked snd searched zoomed but i found no trace of even a Benin man I have also told moneywomen17 to share is link of the page he use as a prove in lagos but to no vail A man free from tribalism will see the yorubas are cunny as they where in d past even till now ... |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Christistruth00: 9:57pm On Jun 29, 2018 |
gregyboy:
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| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by gregyboy(m): 10:13pm On Jun 29, 2018 |
[quote author=Christistruth00 post=68944368][/quote]Can u spot the oba in dat pics |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by gregyboy(m): 10:25pm On Jun 29, 2018 |
Christistruth00:This is an edo website But post me ur link of urs
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| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Christistruth00: 11:01pm On Jun 29, 2018*. Modified: 11:36pm On Jun 29, 2018 |
gregyboy:Ogedengbe the generalissimo of Ilesa and Ekiti parapo forces invaded Edo territory around 1878 capturing towns and was about to overrun and take Benin city if not for the desperate attempts of the Oba of Benin and his Chiefs in pacifying him. Many Edo’s still bear the Ijesa Yoruba surname of Ogedengbe today. From an Edo website
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| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Christistruth00: 11:18pm On Jun 29, 2018 |
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| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by gregyboy(m): 11:41pm On Jun 29, 2018 |
[quote author=Christistruth00 post=68944368][/quote]Ok thought as much...but this was probably all kings meeting in old western region ...this doesnt mean oba is a yoruba man as long he was under the midwestern he was to be present... And him not sitting at the centre roll was humbilty Imagine kingdoms under his fathers territories ranked among him like osemawe of ondo,ekiti olowo of owo etc ...i bet if he did fight to be at the centre he would be outnumbered by the yorubas opinons so he decided to humble himself I guess this humilation and discraced made him vouch not to attend any kings meeting held by the britsh and decides to move out of Midwestern Get ur fact write ...nice prove but biased storyline |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Christistruth00: 11:51pm On Jun 29, 2018 |
gregyboy:Are you shocked?
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| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Christistruth00: 12:24am On Jun 30, 2018 |
gregyboy:
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| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moneywomen17(m): 3:32am On Jun 30, 2018 |
gregyboy:this is a video of ife art and there is several more on the internet especially YouTube where it’s being appreciated all over the world https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wa0st_aMjmA Meanwhile after u have been calling the British bias u finally want a link for it edo boy u got no shame grasping at straw since keep deflecting ok it shows only painment on ur side. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moneywomen17(m): 3:34am On Jun 30, 2018 |
gregyboy:the only cunny people a man free from tribalism will see its edo u have refute every single historical record written citing bias against ur village king but want us to believe a fake story made up from u. If that’s not cunny like a snake I don’t know what is. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Christistruth00: 5:29am On Jun 30, 2018*. Modified: 7:09am On Jun 30, 2018 |
gregyboy:With humility, Ogedengbe was not defeated not even by the Ibadan Army that defeated the Fulanis the Oba of Benin and his Chiefs pleaded desperately with him to show mercy and not destroy Benin he had already taken many Edo towns and had encircled and besieged Benin . Ebohon was probably the leader of the begging party Oba of Benin sent to deliver presents and plead with Ogedengbe ,but was later killed to save face, that is why there was no confrontation with Ogedengbe at Orhua. By the way Orhua was solid Benin territory why was Ogedengbes Army not confronted there? Or was the Benin Army too scared to fight? Think ,do people bear the name of a general they defeated for over 100 years ?
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| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Olu317(m): 6:36am On Jun 30, 2018*. Modified: 12:54pm On Jul 01, 2018 |
gregyboy:Oba Akenzua II is the one in the circle. Stop making mockery of yourself
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| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by gregyboy(m): 8:10am On Jun 30, 2018 |
Christistruth00:Lafft ure even mentioning ibadan fulani when the so called fulani pple were defeated by the Edo's and part of ibadan belongs to benin.... At 18c benin armys faced the British is ogendegbe they were afraid of pls go sit down and imagine it even he approached benin the moat would have swallowed him ....the walls of benin he would not even pass because d city was surrounded by moat and walls .... With guns.after the britsh treatned ogendegbe hr went to hide ....na benin when fex kill 200britsh soilders he won approach ... The reason why ebohon faced him because he was probably closer to the north esan pple of edo are in central while auci are in north so you see why ebohon was deployed to face him which he did a good job and chased him of ... Questions: what are d things benin used to beg him 2. Why did he yield to d begging when benin offended him 3. He came from osun state why did he go through edo north which was more far in distance compare to benin N.B: do u know most of edo north people are mostly akoko yorubas whi fled during wars edo central are more of the edos than the north when ever attack came to edo they always attacked the north why because the know they cant attack the central or benin itself ....fulani tried yorubas tried |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moneywomen17(m): 8:47am On Jun 30, 2018 |
gregyboy:u have come again with ur fraud. Tell us the name of the war u fought with the Fulani and what part of Ibadan is owned by edo liargreg |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Christistruth00: 9:30am On Jun 30, 2018*. Modified: 10:25am On Jun 30, 2018 |
gregyboy:Ebohon and his party were sent to plead with Ogedengbe . The Esans were the traditional Warriors of the Oba of Benin. Learn your History. The reason Ogedengbe wanted to punish Oba of Benin was because he was supporting the Ibadan Army while Ogedengbe and the Ekitiparapo were at war with Ibadan. Around 1878 Ogedengbes Army after overrunning and taking many Edo towns encircled Benin and besieged it and would have overun and taken the City but for the desperate attempts of the Oba of Benin and his Chiefs in pacifying Him. Many Edo’s still bear the Ijesa Yoruba surname of Ogedengbe today.
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| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 11:30am On Jun 30, 2018 |
gregyboy:Benin art is primitive |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 11:33am On Jun 30, 2018 |
gregyboy:You can't compare your primitive art ...with ife art. Ife art is compared with creeks and renaissance art.. Realism in art is the peak of civilization .. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Olu317(m): 1:29pm On Jun 30, 2018 |
Obalufon:Incomparable to any in Subsahara Africa but with Greek's and Persian's Artwork . Artworks at the Best.
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| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by gregyboy(m): 10:07pm On Jun 30, 2018 |
Christistruth00:nigga m tired of this thread .... its simple in history it has nevered happened where a warlord would be beg not to conquer a foreign land what can they use to beg him....if he conquer the lands he will get them all in abudance ... if he was neither promised but only on a pleading note i think a sane warrior would take advantage of a mere pleading.... this lies Yoruba's they aint appealing .... m ready to expose every lies of thiers when needed |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 11:03pm On Jun 30, 2018 |
Christistruth00:Which Ogedengbe? Please Ogedengbe was a coward.. He only raided villages on Benin Northern borders and fled when he was informed of an approaching Benin Army.. The only reason he succeeded in raiding those villages was due to slow method of communication at that time.. before message could get to Benin and an army sent to confront him he had raided a few villages.. Ogedengbe was given a choice by the advancing Benin army.. Stay and fight or leave before the Benin Army gets to his position and if he leaves they won't pursue him.. he took the deal and fled.. Why he no wait?"? I know it will make sense to you Yorubas that Benin that was never defeated in battle can be defeated my small Ogedengbe.. You people should stop deceiving yourselves.. I know u guys are pained that Benin is seen worldwide as a greater and mightier empire than all Yoruba kingdoms.. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 11:08pm On Jun 30, 2018 |
[quote author=Christistruth00 post=68944368][/quote]You seem like a dumb person.. before you post any link or info do u try to verify it? First Oba Akenzua 1 reigned in the 1700s.. and also Oba Akenzua 11 is not in that picture sitting with your useless Yoruba Obas.. try to google Oba Akenzua 11 picture and look for him in your stupid picture.. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 11:14pm On Jun 30, 2018 |
Moneywomen17:The only Yoruba art you guys keep showing is just the ife head.. If that is the only art you guys can talk about then you don;t have to be proud of anything. Edo has thousands of arts worldwide, you guys singing about only one head?? I bet who ever is appreciating your art will be tired of appreciating one piece of art work.. Fact remains, nobody knows about Yoruba art.. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 12:28am On Jul 01, 2018 |
Christistruth00:It is okay for you to celebrate your Ogedengbe since that is the only hero Yorubas can boast of in all of your history. However stop lying about Ogedengbe exploits in Benin Kingdom. He staged a surprise invasion into Benin territory and when Benin knew he was given a choice (either stay and fight Benin army or flee and be spared) and he fled so as not to face confrontation from the Benin army. Below is message sent to Ogedengbe while Benin army was approaching. "Oba sent a parcel of red sand, stony sand and gunpowder to Ogedengbe as ‘’aroko’’. "Look at this red sand, If the land on which you are standing is red, you are in Edo/Benin territory. Also, Gun powder means war, sand means leave the Edo/Benin lands and return to your stony land of Ilesha and fight the Ibadans. We will not attack you if you heed advice and we shall support your fight with Ibadan’’. Your Ogedengbe choose sand and left Benin territory. On another note, Ogedengbe invasion into Benin Territory was around 1848.. It was around this period Benin Kingdom was fighting wars in Eastern Yoruba lands, and few years before Ogedengbe exploits Benin had captured Akure and beheaded your Deji.. So it is suprising that it is the same Mighty Benin you guys are thinking Ogedenbge could defeat in battle? "Every town or village under him (Ewi) except Ijan were prepared to fight…The Benin soldiers stormed Igbara-Odo and Ilawe and took them. At this time, Ado town had been vacated. Aroloye took the people to a place called Oke Oko Axis between Ifaki and Iworoko. Most of the gods Ado worshipped on that side: Olua at Eyio, Obanifon at Esure and Are, Ogbese and Orisala at Iworoko. The soldiers pitched their camps near Uyin (Iyin)…Ogbesi Okun, the then Oluyin …was conquered and killed. They proceeded to Igede, Awo and Esure and took them. The inhabitants of Igede then uder Okiribiti were driven in a north-easternly direction to a place called Oke Asha…Edo troops then marched to Iworoko…The soldiers entered Are…The same fate befell Afao. They were all taken to Ikere. The soldiers moved to Igbemo …entered Igbo-Omoba (now Ilu-Omoba)…The soldiers left Aisegba for Agbado and without delay took it and evacuated the people. Agbado was the last place under the Ewi. With the conquest, of Agbado, the soldiers seemed to have finished their job…’ Ewi Aroloye (1808-1836) who reigned at Ado but were attacked successively by Benin hordes…‘During the reign of Ewi Aroloye, Ado-Ewi’s kingdom witnessed massive dislocation across the terrain as town dwellers and villagers ran for safety in different directions. Many of the captives from Iworoko, Are, Afao, Ugboomoba (now Ilumoba) and Agbado were taken to Ukere by Benin invaders’." |
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