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Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 1:29am On Jul 02, 2018
Obalufon:
you people are primitive you are hostile to people . you have no cultural exchange the edge you had among your forest mongrels in your region is the Yoruba connection ..
Yet the primitive people conquered and ruled most of your people. The primitive people are described as the most advanced and civilized people in west Africa..
do you know that it was acknowledged by the Europeans that if the Europeans hadn’t partitioned and conquered Africa, the Yoruba lands and people were about to be shared by Benin kingdom, Dahomey kingdom and the Fulanis. That was how weak the Europeans saw Yorubas.
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 3:26am On Jul 02, 2018
davidnazee:
You are the fool and very shallow. What is clothing culture? Is civilization based on clothing culture? Are u trying to say Africans were naked till Yoruba invented the so called clothing culture??
You are really an idiot. All your arguments so far has been Yoruba gave Benin oba. Is that how you measure Yoruba greatness by giving Benin oba??

We Edos measure our greatness by our conquests, imperial expansions, territories we colonized, vassal states we subdued, cities we founded and our resistance to European imperialism..
You small Yorubas can keep saying u gave great Benin an Oba or started clothing culture it however doesn’t change the fact you are a weaker race compared to the Edo people and Yoruba kingdoms were weaker than Mighty Benin Kingdom.
your people were naked.. .. animals....we gave you wrapper to cover your nasty ass....we are special people different from you animals..even the fula/Hausa misconstrue our identity think we are Canaanite , point to the east as our root because we are extremely exceptional people ...
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 3:37am On Jul 02, 2018
purge yourself off the hatred and research on yoruba ..
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 4:56am On Jul 02, 2018
Obalufon:
your people were naked.. .. animals....we gave you wrapper to cover your nasty ass....we are special people different from you animals..even the fula/Hausa misconstrue our identity think we are Canaanite , point to the east as our root because we are extremely exceptional people ...
Naked.. animals.. nasty ass.. the white man’s rethorics about Africans.. you can continue to display ur enslavement and training by ur white masters.
You are exceptional because you are a race of sellouts. You are special to your Fulanis and white masters because you are their slaves and easily used to promote their agenda against fellow brave Africans.
You can continue to scream your frustration and hatred and tell lies but it doesn’t change the fact that Great Benin conquered and ruled your race.
That is a generally acknowledged fact.
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 10:02am On Jul 02, 2018
davidnazee:
Naked.. animals.. nasty ass.. the white man’s rethorics about Africans.. you can continue to display ur enslavement and training by ur white masters.
You are exceptional because you are a race of sellouts. You are special to your Fulanis and white masters because you are their slaves and easily used to promote their agenda against fellow brave Africans.
You can continue to scream your frustration and hatred and tell lies but it doesn’t change the fact that Great Benin conquered and ruled your race.
That is a generally acknowledged fact.
fulanis were used as slaves in yoruba land before afonja betrayed alafin..ilorin is just a safe haven for runaway slaves and Islamist 1840 ilorin got ceded from oyo .. they tried to expand their territory to osogbo met heavy resistance from osogbo .1845 great ibadan warriors was called up into the battle they annihilated the ilorin cavalry captured their war generals chased them out from every yoruba land restricted them to ilorin they would have conquered ilorin if other yoruba state accepted their leadership .
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 10:04am On Jul 02, 2018
davidnazee:
Naked.. animals.. nasty ass.. the white man’s rethorics about Africans.. you can continue to display ur enslavement and training by ur white masters.
You are exceptional because you are a race of sellouts. You are special to your Fulanis and white masters because you are their slaves and easily used to promote their agenda against fellow brave Africans.
You can continue to scream your frustration and hatred and tell lies but it doesn’t change the fact that Great Benin conquered and ruled your race.
That is a generally acknowledged fact.
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what part of our land or race as you called it ,did your kingdom rule over list it ..
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 10:18am On Jul 02, 2018
davidnazee:
Naked.. animals.. nasty ass.. the white man’s rethorics about Africans.. you can continue to display ur enslavement and training by ur white masters.
You are exceptional because you are a race of sellouts. You are special to your Fulanis and white masters because you are their slaves and easily used to promote their agenda against fellow brave Africans.
You can continue to scream your frustration and hatred and tell lies but it doesn’t change the fact that Great Benin conquered and ruled your race.
That is a generally acknowledged fact.
you people don't have a clothing culture your race run around in the bush like animals typical stereotype of Africans.. the little your people know we taught them..we civilized your your race, gave you religion ... what else do you people want from us be grateful . ..Do you know why leo frobenius excavated ife ?
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by HajimeSaito(m): 10:46am On Jul 02, 2018
davidnazee:
I don't know which tribe you are but definitely your tribe have thousands of their women hawking their bodies too and some doing free of charge.. prostitution is a general thing among all races on earth..
and since Yorubas and Igbos have more population, more of their women are prostitutes..
But the whole world knows that Edos are the most active players grin E ma do ra yin lo grin

Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 2:00pm On Jul 02, 2018
Obalufon:
you people don't have a clothing culture your race run around in the bush like animals typical stereotype of Africans.. the little your people know we taught them..we civilized your your race, gave you religion ... what else do you people want from us be grateful . ..Do you know why leo frobenius excavated ife ?
You didn’t civilize anybody. You couldn’t even civilize or organize yourselves properly. Edo people were regarded as the most civilize and advanced West Africans and you know that fact.
As for clothing culture nobody cares who was the first people to weave cloths, doesn’t mean you were great, it’s just a skill.
Many great empires borrow skills from other cultures incorporate it into their culture and become great with it.
What did the excavation at Ife result in? Only few bronze heads and 3 calabash pots lol.
Do u know why there was no screaming headlines about that excavation?? They got nothing special lol.
Benin Empire was a greater empire than all Yoruba kingdoms.. that is a fact!!
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 2:03pm On Jul 02, 2018
HajimeSaito:
But the whole world knows that Edos are the most active players grin E ma do ra yin lo grin
Edos are international players. Yorubas are local champions.
If there are 1 million Edo prostitutes, there will be 10 million Yoruba prostitutes.
And Yoruba men are confirmed gays..
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by gregyboy(m): 6:12pm On Jul 02, 2018
Obalufon:
That statue depict ife chief 'priest ....we have clothing culture every cult has its own dressing code
Lol...you will defend urself....anyway anyhow u want to put it ...everything in dat statue depit a benin chief which mean a chief was sent to ife to probably teach them art ,worship to civilized ife

Here is a prove showing a benin chiefs just exactly how the chief crosses its hand the dress depicit a benin chief

Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by gregyboy(m): 6:58pm On Jul 02, 2018
Obalufon:
visit ile-ife benin dressing culture is from ile-ife ..
Lol....benin dressing culture is from ile ife ....is dat what u can say .....


Fairytale benin have so many proves oduduwa is from edo

Now lets examine this picture the first picture is d oba of benin.... Dressing

The second pictures a statue of an oba of benin

The third is a yoruba statue of oduduwa which depicit wat is common btwn the two images above ..oduduwa statue morw depicit the first picture of oba of benin ....with clothes around his wasit with a bare chest and long beads rolling to his kneews ...lets assume the dressing was learnt from ife ..then why did they stop dressing like the original odudwa like the oba of benin at this note with this fact i would say benin verson of oduduwa is most appropriate

Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by gregyboy(m): 7:05pm On Jul 02, 2018
Obalufon:
you people are too dumb to be part of us ..we don't need you ...Benin monarch belong to us
Dont you wonder in every part of nigeria benin influnced spread on benin always imposed a king there like deltas,lagos,ekiti ,onitisha why do u think ife own is different if u aint ethnocentric
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by gregyboy(m): 7:12pm On Jul 02, 2018
davidnazee:
I dont know if Yoruba arts have any realism about it.. They only have few bronze heads and that is what they keep shouting as great art works..
The unique thing about Benin arts is that it is just not only art works but it also tells stories.. It is like a documentation of Benin history. The art works represents historical events and encounters in Benin History, some tell of different Obas and their achievements, while some represent religious festivals and dieties..
It is this uniqueness of the Benin arts and what they represents that has the world in awe of Benin art works.. Since we could not write on paper, we told our stories in our art works. This is one reason Benin was described has the most civilized and advanced Kingdom in West Africa.

Yoruba art works represent nothing. The only thing you will hear about it will be what type of material was used or what date it was made.. nothing else..
I don't know for certain between the two races who first started making art work, but Benin was better at it.
You have said it well ....more than i could i still insit benin taught ife art work they made statue of the chiefs who Benin sent to teach them art work ....benin taughr them art but didn't teach them how to documents with the art and how to cover the art work .... That is d benin man who taught ife art

Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by banku: 8:41pm On Jul 02, 2018
Using everything you learn from Ife against Ife with your reverse mentality is not going to work, not even on those that had primary school in Nigeria before disgruntled Oba kicked against its own in 2003(?), I think.

What are the oldest artifacts from Igodo abi na Bini sef?

Ever heard of IWO ELERU, 10,000 B.C

gregyboy:
You have said it well ....more than i could i still insit benin taught ife art work they made statue of the chiefs who Benin sent to teach them art work ....benin taughr them art but didn't teach them how to documents with the art and how to cover the art work .... That is d benin man who taught ife art
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by gregyboy(m): 9:41pm On Jul 02, 2018
banku:
Using everything you learn from Ife against Ife with your reverse mentality is not going to work, not even on those that had primary school in Nigeria before disgruntled Oba kicked against its own in 2003(?), I think.

What are the oldest artifacts from Igodo abi na Bini sef?

Ever heard of IWO ELERU, 10,000 B.C
Yoruba with fairytales ur ooni said adam nd eve is from ife then ure a comming with an oral tradition of 10,000 bc when ur fadas cnt even tell oduduwa correct story of 800 yrs ago
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 10:26pm On Jul 02, 2018
banku:
Using everything you learn from Ife against Ife with your reverse mentality is not going to work, not even on those that had primary school in Nigeria before disgruntled Oba kicked against its own in 2003(?), I think.

What are the oldest artifacts from Igodo abi na Bini sef?

Ever heard of IWO ELERU, 10,000 B.C
What do you know about the Iwo Eleru or the conclusion the white scientist made about the Iwo Eleru skull? They found a skull believed to be 13,000 years old and after analyzing the skull they decided that early inhabitants of that area where the skull came from where not humans, rather more like apes.. So I guess you can be proud that your ancestors are confirmed apes and monkeys..

Also having the oldest artifact doesn't mean you are greater or more civilized than other races or kingdoms around you.. There are artifacts older than British Empire but yet it was one of the greatest empire ever..
If you like continue to claim oldest artifact, it still doesn't change the fact that Benin Kingdom was more powerful and mightier than all your Yoruba kingdoms..
Almost every tribe in Nigeria was influenced by Benin Kingdom, we influence their culture, their monarchies.. How many Yoruba fit influence?
None!!
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by banku: 10:42pm On Jul 02, 2018
You need to lecture your fellow Bini appendages that think Iwo Eleru is oral tradition.

When Ooni told you Ife is older than Adam and Eve or might have come from there, he was not joking.

The same way you guys shot wide and wild on Oduduwa that was way before Christ.

A liar has no memory, no history, no facts but make up stories as the go along.

So Iwo Eleru is not Bini predecesor, eh? You are not part of man prehistory, Bini existed before man! Odesons!

davidnazee:
What do you know about the Iwo Eleru or the conclusion the white scientist made about the Iwo Eleru skull? They found a skull believed to be 13,000 years old and after analyzing the skull they decided that early inhabitants of that area where the skull came from where not humans, rather more like apes.. So I guess you can be proud that your ancestors are confirmed apes and monkeys..

Also having the oldest artifact doesn't mean you are greater or more civilized than other races or kingdoms around you.. There are artifacts older than British Empire but yet it was one of the greatest empire ever..
If you like continue to claim oldest artifact, it still doesn't change the fact that Benin Kingdom was more powerful and mightier than all your Yoruba kingdoms..
Almost every tribe in Nigeria was influenced by Benin Kingdom, we influence their culture, their monarchies.. How many Yoruba fit influence?
None!!
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 11:59pm On Jul 02, 2018
banku:
You need to lecture your fellow Bini appendages that think Iwo Eleru is oral tradition.

When Ooni told you Ife is older than Adam and Eve or might have come from there, he was not joking.

The same way you guys shot wide and wild on Oduduwa that was way before Christ.

A liar has no memory, no history, no facts but make up stories as the go along.

So Iwo Eleru is not Bini predecesor, eh? You are not part of man prehistory, Bini existed before man! Odesons!
Iwo Eleru is name of a place not name of a person or skull.. and Iwo Eleru is not 10,000 years old, it was founded some hundreds centuries ago.
As for the skull, are u saying that the ape skull is that of a Yoruba man? (I agree the Yorubas behaves like monkeys and very foolish people)
Oduduwa is an Edo prince.
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by banku: 12:23am On Jul 03, 2018
Hey boy, I told you to lecture your appendages, I do not belong to the same pedestrian level as you guys, that is why I stayed back and watch Bini that were ruled over and that worship their ruling house, make a fool of themselves about subject taught in elementary schools to most Nigerians. If you belong to the ruling House, you will have a Yoruba name and god to worship.

Turn Iwo Eleru to whaever you want, as usual.
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 1:03am On Jul 03, 2018
banku:
Hey boy, I told you to lecture your appendages, I do not belong to the same pedestrian level as you guys, that is why I stayed back and watch Bini that were ruled over and that worship their ruling house, make a fool of themselves about subject taught in elementary schools to most Nigerians. If you belong to the ruling House, you will have a Yoruba name and god to worship.

Turn Iwo Eleru to whaever you want, as usual.
If you like dey level 6 or level 9 no your business be that.. Fact remains that Great Benin conquered and ruled your weak ancestors for hundreds of years.. That is a subject taught in elementary, secondary and tertiary institutions in Nigeria..
I know in elementary schools they also teach that Oduduwa descended from the skies in chains and that Yorubas migrated from Arab nations.. Oh I forget to add that they also teach that most modern Yorubas are descendants of slaves..

Its only a fake and lowlife person that claims level.. We know your type..
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 8:54am On Jul 03, 2018
gregyboy:
Lol....benin dressing culture is from ile ife ....is dat what u can say .....


Fairytale benin have so many proves oduduwa is from edo

Now lets examine this picture the first picture is d oba of benin.... Dressing

The second pictures a statue of an oba of benin

The third is a yoruba statue of oduduwa which depicit wat is common btwn the two images above ..oduduwa statue morw depicit the first picture of oba of benin ....with clothes around his wasit with a bare chest and long beads rolling to his kneews ...lets assume the dressing was learnt from ife ..then why did they stop dressing like the original odudwa like the oba of benin at this note with this fact i would say benin verson of oduduwa is most appropriate
that's the only dressing exposed to Benin way back then we still dress like that . visit ile- ife.. to know your root..languages differences is what is causing the problem .. ile-ife is the source the birthplace
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 9:56am On Jul 03, 2018
davidnazee:
You didn’t civilize anybody. You couldn’t even civilize or organize yourselves properly. Edo people were regarded as the most civilize and advanced West Africans and you know that fact.
As for clothing culture nobody cares who was the first people to weave cloths, doesn’t mean you were great, it’s just a skill.
Many great empires borrow skills from other cultures incorporate it into their culture and become great with it.
What did the excavation at Ife result in? Only few bronze heads and 3 calabash pots lol.
Do u know why there was no screaming headlines about that excavation?? They got nothing special lol.
Benin Empire was a greater empire than all Yoruba kingdoms.. that is a fact!!
you people should face the reality you can't
compare Yoruba as race to you people we are different exceptional people we introduced lot of things to west Africa manual looming machine.. bronze copper we knew about metallurgy mining we cast in 99% copper free of lead poisoning, reinforced furnace system using hydraulic pumping to fan metals to attend high temperature ...glass making medicine, immuniology before the white introduced to the west by Yoruba slaves . Oyo alone encompassed 3 countries Nigeria Benin Togo even stretching to Ghana brought Empires under her tributary.. Name one kingdom you people conquered igala humiliated your kingdom
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 10:37am On Jul 03, 2018
gregyboy:
Lol....benin dressing culture is from ile ife ....is dat what u can say .....


Fairytale benin have so many proves oduduwa is from edo

Now lets examine this picture the first picture is d oba of benin.... Dressing

The second pictures a statue of an oba of benin

The third is a yoruba statue of oduduwa which depicit wat is common btwn the two images above ..oduduwa statue morw depicit the first picture of oba of benin ....with clothes around his wasit with a bare chest and long beads rolling to his kneews ...lets assume the dressing was learnt from ife ..then why did they stop dressing like the original odudwa like the oba of benin at this note with this fact i would say benin verson of oduduwa is most appropriate
laugh !!!!do you know why your king hold it IDA?
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 3:36pm On Jul 03, 2018
davidnazee:
Yet the primitive people conquered and ruled most of your people. The primitive people are described as the most advanced and civilized people in west Africa..
do you know that it was acknowledged by the Europeans that if the Europeans hadn’t partitioned and conquered Africa, the Yoruba lands and people were about to be shared by Benin kingdom, Dahomey kingdom and the Fulanis. That was how weak the Europeans saw Yorubas.
. from which source? stay in your jungle mothefucker ? where you want to put Malians and other empires they superior to your village kingdom
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 3:44pm On Jul 03, 2018
davidnazee:
What do you know about the Iwo Eleru or the conclusion the white scientist made about the Iwo Eleru skull? They found a skull believed to be 13,000 years old and after analyzing the skull they decided that early inhabitants of that area where the skull came from where not humans, rather more like apes.. So I guess you can be proud that your ancestors are confirmed apes and monkeys..

Also having the oldest artifact doesn't mean you are greater or more civilized than other races or kingdoms around you.. There are artifacts older than British Empire but yet it was one of the greatest empire ever..
If you like continue to claim oldest artifact, it still doesn't change the fact that Benin Kingdom was more powerful and mightier than all your Yoruba kingdoms..
Almost every tribe in Nigeria was influenced by Benin Kingdom, we influence their culture, their monarchies.. How many Yoruba fit influence?
None!!
retarded nitwit, you guys need to evole
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by gregyboy(m): 4:32pm On Jul 03, 2018
Obalufon:
that's the only dressing exposed to Benin way back then we still dress like that . visit ile- ife.. to know your root..languages differences is what is causing the problem .. ile-ife is the source the birthplace
Laye eeh laye eeh oga yoy too lie

U also dress like that very funny probably when oduduwa came from ife that he clothed yorubas ur were all naked bush pple ...the britsh saw the benin chiefs dress like dat so how did the British see yorubas dress show me a picture of early 18c
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by gregyboy(m): 6:49pm On Jul 03, 2018
Obalufon:
your people were naked.. .. animals....we gave you wrapper to cover your nasty ass....we are special people different from you animals..even the fula/Hausa misconstrue our identity think we are Canaanite , point to the east as our root because we are extremely exceptional people ...
O my god u can lie... Iyemwen who be dis trained lier was yoruba even clothed at all ...benis have been wearing clothes on thier waist before d advent of pourtuguese ...Portuguese account in benin nevered mentioned we were naked or uncivilized they mention our oba to be fully beaded our men were clothed pictures still proves it till date ....so no record of yoruba was kept oduduwa was d only man who LovePeddler clothea and ile ife pple saw him as a god and made him a king
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by gregyboy(m): 7:19pm On Jul 03, 2018
Obalufon:
you people should face the reality you can't
compare Yoruba as race to you people we are different exceptional people we introduced lot of things to west Africa manual looming machine.. bronze copper we knew about metallurgy mining we cast in 99% copper free of lead poisoning, reinforced furnace system using hydraulic pumping to fan metals to attend high temperature ...glass making medicine, immuniology before the white introduced to the west by Yoruba slaves . Oyo alone encompassed 3 countries Nigeria Benin Togo even stretching to Ghana brought Empires under her tributary.. Name one kingdom you people conquered igala humiliated your kingdom
Ure lying in other countries head again yea is a prove that oduduwa was a benin man....

Starting from oduduwa there was nothing like oba or obatanla so the word oba started from oduduwa when he came from ife to benin ...the second ooni clear shows that oduduwa came from benin has the name is seen ti bear osa which means god in benin just like oludmare means god in yoruba ....osagangan means in edo strong god and obamakin means i am a king ...
This shows the list of previous oonis right from oduduwa and it was named during ooni coronation....

My question now is there is so many prove showing yorubas dat edo begot oduduwa but yorubas will ignore it but rather lie whyhuh


Why after oduduwa reign the next ooni bore an edo name for God in edo and bore a name for king in edo .....

Why did ife make statue of a benin chief if they didnt worship benin might

Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 11:56pm On Jul 04, 2018
gregyboy:
O my god u can lie... Iyemwen who be dis trained lier was yoruba even clothed at all ...benis have been wearing clothes on thier waist before d advent of pourtuguese ...Portuguese account in benin nevered mentioned we were naked or uncivilized they mention our oba to be fully beaded our men were clothed pictures still proves it till date ....so no record of yoruba was kept oduduwa was d only man who LovePeddler clothea and ile ife pple saw him as a god and made him a king
lol..you have no clothing culture ..we introduced it to you people ... prior to coming Oramiyan you before dressed in raffia palm way back before oramiyan . Only your chiefs or your elite used rapper to cover their waist the peasants were either naked or used raffia palm...your brothers across the Niger were not lucky they were still running around naked till 50s ..read history
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 12:00am On Jul 05, 2018
gregyboy:
Ure lying in other countries head again yea is a prove that oduduwa was a benin man....

Starting from oduduwa there was nothing like oba or obatanla so the word oba started from oduduwa when he came from ife to benin ...the second ooni clear shows that oduduwa came from benin has the name is seen ti bear osa which means god in benin just like oludmare means god in yoruba ....osagangan means in edo strong god and obamakin means i am a king ...
This shows the list of previous oonis right from oduduwa and it was named during ooni coronation....

My question now is there is so many prove showing yorubas dat edo begot oduduwa but yorubas will ignore it but rather lie whyhuh


Why after oduduwa reign the next ooni bore an edo name for God in edo and bore a name for king in edo .....

Why did ife make statue of a benin chief if they didnt worship benin might
laughing you guys are funny .. the earlier you embrace your root the better it is for you ..
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Emilokoiyawon: 1:30am On Jul 05, 2018
Bini propagandists still spreading lies about their origin. If you like deny all you want it will not change reality and history. Bini royalty is from Ife.
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