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post=69152934:
They should arrest him now.
Why the video?
Someone is destroying your business and you have time for video?
Arrant rubbish

If the farmer tries to do anything, he will go six feet below straight.

Oshiomole what do u have to say about this?

post=69152934:
They should arrest him now.
Why the video?
Someone is destroying your business and you have time for video?
Arrant rubbish

but its not easy to arrest an armed man, with out been armed.

brownshooga:
who will arrest him
When they have oga at the top

You get sense I swear...

This is exactly how they go about their duty with lack of respect for other peoples effort, unfortunately the government will always look away from this calculated attempt by a few nomadic element to cause vexation that can lead to wanton destruction of life and property to a group of law abiding citizen whose sole source of income is the same agriculture the Government is encouraging the populace to go into. The irony is that they have nothing to loose not with their lackadaisical attitude to life and lack of place to call a home, they definitely feel no pain for others with
good and noble ambition. What a pitiful country we are in, where servants ride on horses and the princes are walking as servants with fear and trepidation. Such a Nation can never make a meaningful progress as it were, and that's why we are stuck at this lonely point we are because of this injustice and to exit this point the country must be restructured to correct all these anomaly, only then can we make the desired progressive we all are craving for.

So unfortunate that we share the same country with this animal in human skin

mide419:
Is it a farm?


That should be your first question.

Are the cows authorised to be there by the owner of the land oga?

Is cow business govt business sir?

Can a yoruba man do the same in Kano?

Be fair even with social media comments.

The ground you are stepping on is judging you.

You will be surprised to hear that those cows are most likely owned by Benin indigenes who only employed the Fulani man to care for them. At least that is the way it is for more than 80% of cattle reared in the South West. Ranching by the private owners of the cattle is the answer. Government has no business in providing ranches for private livestock businessmen.

Rekeb:
You will be surprised to hear that those cows are most likely owned by Benin indigenes who only employed the Fulani man to care for them. At least that is the way it is for more than 80% of cattle reared in the South West. Ranching by the private owners of the cattle is the answer. Government has no business in providing ranches for private livestock businessmen.

would you support herdsmen buying their own ranches in the SW/SE if they are so willing, and since they have been grazing there for decades?. Why i asked is bcus the local buy these cows from them which means it is a business.

I am not talking about forcefully taking the land but buying for themselves (for ranching) from their own capital?.

BlackAfrican:
The video was recorded by a useless IPOB member...

Only you dey run commentary for the video they talk rubbish....

Facts

No where in the video did the herdsman ask his cow to eat corn....

The said corn in the video have already been harvested and wat is left there is just the dried out corn stalks....

When the useless video recorder called the attention of the herdsman to the fact that the place where the cattles are grazing is someone's "farm", he promptly drove his cattles out of there...

Nothing indicates in the video that that place is a farm except for the presence of dried out corn stalks and the continuous ranting of the ipob dimwit recording the video.


SEUN
Your platform is being used to circulate hatred in Nigeria and one day you will answer for it. Your mods push rubbish news to fp with false headlines and without proper investigation for gullible readers to feed on... Thereby spreading more hatred amongst Nigerians... Surely, one day, you will be called to answer for all this.

You are nothing but a mumu for not using your brain to think. The fact remains that the place is someone's farm and nobody has right to take cows there to feed. The harvested corn is the only thing camera could capture, what of other things like yam, melon and some other farm produce that don't grow tall but might possibly be spreading and germinating under the harvested maize. People like you are the enemies of this country. What is bad is bad. Cattle rearer should build ranches for their cows and stop destroying other people's farm. #simple#

Empiree:
would you support herdsmen buying their own ranches in the SW/SE if they are so willing, and since they have been grazing there for decades?. Why i asked is bcus the local buy these cows from them which means it is a business.

I am not talking about forcefully taking the land but buying for themselves (for ranching) from their own capital?.

An individual Fulani can buy a land anywhere and ranch his cattle but I don't support govt backed fulani sort of cluster where a lot of fulani migrate and which will later become a village that will demand an emir in the future.

Moyinoluwa35:
I dreamt a very bad dream,i woke up it was 4.32am,in my dream the hausa are planning war on xtians,it wil start frm d main north,i saw them chasin anything christian with cutlass.i dnt knw d state where the plan wil take place in north.lets pray 4 nigeria

Your dream will happen if Buhari fails to successfully rig the next year elections.
1. Should we pray that he wins rather?
2. Should we plan to leave the country before then?

Empiree:
would you support herdsmen buying their own ranches in the SW/SE if they are so willing, and since they have been grazing there for decades?. Why i asked is bcus the local buy these cows from them which means it is a business.

I am not talking about forcefully taking the land but buying for themselves (for ranching) from their own capital?.

Of course the law of the land does not prohibit anyone buying land at any part of the country for agric purpose. However, locals need to beware of people from the other part of the country strategically buying large expanse of land in another region with the future aim of establishing villages and towns ruled by the "foreigners".

To be clear, Yoruba people will welcome other tribes to buy land, but they will not want a town or village ruled by an Ezeh or an Emir within their domain. Likewise the Igbos or Housa/Fulani people will not want a Yoruba kingdom within their domain. This will be a recipe for future war.

post=69152934:
They should arrest him now. Why the video? Someone is destroying your business and you have time for video? Arrant rubbish

. who will arrest him?

brownshooga:
You concluded that I dont follow the genocide trend and partiality going on in this country from my profile? Thats laughable.

Keep supporting him until fulani herdsmen invade your bbq stand with their cows to graze.

Well said, people are just blinded to reality

What if the farm owner allowed the cows to help him eat up the chaffs because it looks like the corns have been plucked?

PeterUdeme:
An individual Fulani can buy a land anywhere and ranch his cattle but I don't support govt backed fulani sort of cluster where a lot of fulani migrate and which will later become a village that will demand an emir in the future.

paranoia. Goes to show you that Fulani intregate easily than other tribes. Ilorin comes to mind. They are more Western than you. In the US, they love integration To have different tribes coexist. Ilorin is truly diversed. That's how it should be. When you diverse, you have no time to hate. This is the reality in New York. NY is more diverse than other states. You barely hear of race issue in New York. That's why majority igbi hate others because they are so secluded and have time to hate.

You have contradicted yourself.

Remember, this is the same way I support folks in SW/SE should have free access to the north as well. Let's just say irrational fear dey worry all of you.

If you don't want them in your area, you guys should have had similar businesses to fill up your lands. But instead, your youths are just roaming the streets jobless or do fraud instead of your state and local govt to invest heavily on those lands. Because you didn't, and there are vacant lands, therefore, fulani herdsmen are coming and I am supporting them. This will ease cost of transportation and cost of lifestock in the SE and SW.


Now, let me tell you mistake you guys are making.

When you said fulani should buy the lands by themselves instead of govt, you guys make it worst. If they buy lands in your state, they become by permanent owners. You no longer have right to claim ownership or invoke your ancestors defense or worse them to abide by your custom.


This is the reason I said govt should take responsibility of the lands by buying those lands from families or owners and reserve them for ranches and many things profitable for the community and the govt.


If govt take over, how's your problem?. Nar your money govt go spend on it?. The real problem is for fulani to buy those lands. They will claim permanent ownership.

You people don't understand. Now so you agree with what I just said?

Good for them. It's their darling party. Let them enjoy the change. If they like, they should reelect Buhari and remain under oppression for four more years. I wonder why a sensible Southerner will still pledge allegiance to this terrorist party.

mide419:
Is it a farm?


That should be your first question.

Are the cows authorised to be there by the owner of the land oga?

Is cow business govt business sir?

Can a yoruba man do the same in Kano?

Be fair even with social media comments.

The ground you are stepping on is judging you.

Bros, these questions shouldn't be directed to me, because I don't support open grazing.

For me, open grazing is backward.

But then, Nigeria as a country is very backward except for few areas.

But how we go about resolving this problem is wrong. Too many unfavorable sentiments are directed at the Fulanis. Maybe because of their religion or whatever. Like in this very case, the ops directly implies that the cows destroyed live crops, which is very untrue.

Rekeb:
Of course the law of the land does not prohibit anyone buying land at any part of the country for agric purpose. However, locals need to beware of people from the other part of the country strategically buying large expanse of land in another region with the future aim of establishing villages and towns ruled by the "foreigners".

To be clear, Yoruba people will welcome other tribes to buy land, but they will not want a town or village ruled by an Ezeh or an Emir within their domain. Likewise the Igbos or Housa/Fulani people will not want a Yoruba kingdom within their domain. This will be a recipe for future war.

You have agreed they can buy land in the SW/SE. Anything else you said is irrelevant, excuse me. But I repeat that I don't support them buying the land for agriculture or ranches. Your approach will eventually lead to what you are trying to avoid (ruling over you).

But rather the govt should buy those lands from the people, and farmers and herdsmen should lease from govt. This is so easy. That way you don't have to worry about them taking over you because they do not own the land. But you are saying they should buy the lands. You just contradicted yourself and your proposition is recipe for disaster.

Rekeb:
You will be surprised to hear that those cows are most likely owned by Benin indigenes who only employed the Fulani man to care for them. At least that is the way it is for more than 80% of cattle reared in the South West. Ranching by the private owners of the cattle is the answer. Government has no business in providing ranches for private livestock businessmen.

Ok.

Lets say the cows are owned by private individuals.

Maybe I should contact femi adesina to repeat himself for us to hear and understand better.

It shall be well with Nigeria

Empiree:
You have agreed they can buy land in the SW/SE. Anything else you said is irrelevant, excuse me. But I repeat that I don't support them buying the land for agriculture or ranches. Your approach will eventually lead to what you are trying to avoid (ruling over you).

But rather the govt should buy those lands from the people, and farmers and herdsmen should lease from govt. This is so easy. That way you don't have to worry about them taking over you because they do not own the land. But you are saying they should buy the lands. You just contradicted yourself and your proposition is recipe for disaster.

This is where we are getting it wrong.

CATTLE BUSINESS IS A PERSONAL BUSINESS. JUST LIKE SHIT BUSINESS.

GOVERNMENT SHOULD HAVE NO HAND IN IT.

GOVERNMENT DOES NOT provide land for the igbo businesses in Lagos nor yoruba businesses in kano nor ijaw businesses in Benue. Businesses men go the market.

Igbo business men get kicked around wella in Lagos.

Today they build plaza here tomorrow government say move to a different location. They will reluctantly go and still continue their businesses without violently protesting or killing anybody.

Do that to these guys and they will start counting cows.

Johnnyessence:
Fulani Herdsman Carries His Cows Into A Farm For Them To Eat And Destroy The Farmers Corn In Benin City Edo State.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD2Bnuo_SBw

To stop the herdsmen, stop eating patronizing their products. Stop buying cow meat.
If all Nigerians can do that for a month of meat fasting, they will run out of business like a low sperm count
Also, if you cannot kill stop the cows from eating the corn, you can stop them from leaving the farm. We have figured out how to poison each other. How more difficult can it be to poison a cow or a herd of cawus

BlackAfrican:
The video was recorded by a useless IPOB member...

Only you dey run commentary for the video they talk rubbish....

Facts

No where in the video did the herdsman ask his cow to eat corn....

The said corn in the video have already been harvested and wat is left there is just the dried out corn stalks....

When the useless video recorder called the attention of the herdsman to the fact that the place where the cattles are grazing is someone's "farm", he promptly drove his cattles out of there...

Nothing indicates in the video that that place is a farm except for the presence of dried out corn stalks and the continuous ranting of the ipob dimwit recording the video.


SEUN
Your platform is being used to circulate hatred in Nigeria and one day you will answer for it. Your mods push rubbish news to fp with false headlines and without proper investigation for gullible readers to feed on... Thereby spreading more hatred amongst Nigerians... Surely, one day, you will be called to answer for all this.

Seun I think you should contemplate on the bold portion seriously. I have been on Nairaland for many years but have never seen hate speeches than what I am witnessing on Nairaland since the beginning of this administration. More than 90% of the hate speeches and abuse are against Hausa/Fulani/Muslims only because the President happens to be one of them.
I am not a politician and I have no intention to join politics. I have never worked for Government and will never work for any Government but I am Muslim Hausa/Fulani and I do not support any criminal Christian or Muslim.
There are over 2 million people on Nairaland and these speeches are propagated by about 200 to 300 Nairalanders. Please do not allow the actions of about 0.01% to turn your forum into hate speech platform against any religion, tribe or region.
Remember when the chips are down you shall be the one to account for it in this life or hereafter.

mide419:
This is where we are getting it wrong.

CATTLE BUSINESS IS A PERSONAL BUSINESS. JUST LIKE SHIT BUSINESS.

GOVERNMENT SHOULD HAVE NO HAND IN IT.

GOVERNMENT DOES NOT provide land for the igbo businesses in Lagos nor yoruba businesses in kano nor ijaw businesses in Benue. Businesses men go the market.

Igbo business men get kicked around wella in Lagos.

Today they build plaza here tomorrow government say move to a different location. They will reluctantly go and still continue their businesses without violently protesting or killing anybody.

Do that to these guys and they will start counting cows.

You dont get it and i am not gonna waste my time with you.

Empiree:
You have agreed they can buy land in the SW/SE. Anything else you said is irrelevant, excuse me. But I repeat that I don't support them buying the land for agriculture or ranches. Your approach will eventually lead to what you are trying to avoid (ruling over you).

But rather the govt should buy those lands from the people, and farmers and herdsmen should [b]lease from govt[/b]. This is so easy. That way you don't have to worry about them taking over you because they do not own the land. But you are saying they should buy the lands. You just contradicted yourself and your proposition is recipe for disaster.

I only choose to reply to your statements in bold. I am telling you the concern of people whose land the government is planning to acquire for the purpose of ranching and you are saying what I say is "irrelevant". Don't you think that is sheer arrogance on your part?

You said govt should buy land and "lease" it to the farmers and herdsmen. That sort of statement can only come from someone who thinks what others are saying on sensitive issues is "irrelevant". That is the real recipe for disaster.

Empiree:
You dont get it and i am not gonna waste my time with you.

I careless.

But kindly put your brain to work cos the younger ones are reading every damn thing you type.

And believe me they run with it.

That i know.

africanusvu:
But though I hate Fulani wit passion. This don't look like a maize farm.I saw land overgrown wit weeds and few dry already harvested dry maize plant standing.just my opinion pls

i take it you dont drink pap or custard...

Empiree:
paranoia. Goes to show you that Fulani intregate easily than other tribes. Ilorin comes to mind. They are more Western than you. In the US, they love integration To have different tribes coexist. Ilorin is truly diversed. That's how it should be. When you diverse, you have no time to hate. This is the reality in New York. NY is more diverse than other states. You barely hear of race issue in New York. That's why majority igbi hate others because they are so secluded and have time to hate.

You have contradicted yourself.

Remember, this is the same way I support folks in SW/SE should have free access to the north as well. Let's just say irrational fear dey worry all of you.

If you don't want them in your area, you guys should have had similar businesses to fill up your lands. But instead, your youths are just roaming the streets jobless or do fraud instead of your state and local govt to invest heavily on those lands. Because you didn't, and there are vacant lands, therefore, fulani herdsmen are coming and I am supporting them. This will ease cost of transportation and cost of lifestock in the SE and SW.


Now, let me tell you mistake you guys are making.

When you said fulani should buy the lands by themselves instead of govt, you guys make it worst. If they buy lands in your state, they become by permanent owners. You no longer have right to claim ownership or invoke your ancestors defense or worse them to abide by your custom.


This is the reason I said govt should take responsibility of the lands by buying those lands from families or owners and reserve them for ranches and many things profitable for the community and the govt.


If govt take over, how's your problem?. Nar your money govt go spend on it?. The real problem is for fulani to buy those lands. They will claim permanent ownership.

You people don't understand. Now so you agree with what I just said?

You must be someone who is not very perceptive. If you were, you should know that it is precisely what happened in Ilorin that scares other tribes. If your idea or Fulani integration is dominating and ruling other people, then you are a tyrant and bully. I can tell you that people don't like tyrants and bullies.

What you should be advising government to do is utilise the vast dams, irrigation infrastructure and vast landmass that the north is blessed with to establish whatever ranches they want to establish. But for the cattle farmers in the south west, we are ready to establish our private ranches without the help of the government.

Rekeb:
You must be someone who is not very perceptive. If you were, you should know that it is precisely what happened in Ilorin that scares other tribes. If your idea or Fulani integration is dominating and ruling other people, then you are a tyrant and bully. I can tell you that people don't like tyrants and bullies.

What you should be advising government to do is utilise the vast dams, irrigation infrastructure and vast landmass that the north is blessed with to establish whatever ranches they want to establish. But for the cattle farmers in the south west, we are ready to establish our private ranches without the help of the government.

Highlighted, 100yrs from now?. Those lands have been there for donkey yrs while your people are jobless and govt loot money. If not for this crisis none of you would ever thought about the lands. Lands are just sitting there useless. Yes, anyone can do this cattle rearing business. Agree.


Real bullying is your govt looting you dry and deprived you of your basic rights like electricity. That's bullying. Recent Lagos State fixing roads for foreign president is prime example.


I'm sure you are just speaking for yourself. Your govt aren't sharing your view but their pockets. They would share your view only for political purposes.

As for ilorin, it is said that ilorin is not Yorubaland either. That's another argument for another day. Ilorin is a symbol of diversity. Take it or leave it.

And when I said govt should take over lands, it doesn't have to be federal. Your state can do it too instead of having lands sitting there for no reason.

Rekeb:
I only choose to reply to your statements in bold. I am telling you the concern of people whose land the government is planning to acquire for the purpose of ranching and you are saying what I say is "irrelevant". Don't you think that is sheer arrogance on your part?

You said govt should buy land and "lease" it to the farmers and herdsmen. That sort of statement can only come from someone who thinks what others are saying on sensitive issues is "irrelevant". That is the real recipe for disaster.

again you don't get it. Let me say it again.

Lands in most part of Nigeria especially Yorubland are owned by families who inherited them from their forefathers. If herdsmen buy these lands from a yoruba family, Yoruba have history of conflicts within family where by some member of the family are not willing to sell the land while others want to. If they sell the land anyway to herdsmen, other family member who are not content will cause trouble which will affect fulani or cattle enterprenuers. But with govt, there is no such thing. You can't go wrong with govt. But with family, it is hell on Earth. You know too well how Yoruba kill one another over land.

mide419:
I careless.

But kindly put your brain to work cos the younger ones are reading every damn thing you type.

And believe me they run with it.

That i know.

at the end of the day, younger ones will realize I have been talking sense. I know it is hard at first to reason to change. Later, you get to realize what i have been saying is close to achieving peace for as long as it takes.