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| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 9:52pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
Moorish:at least there's a fish thing about him.. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moorish: 9:58pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
davidnazee:I dont know maybe he is a great swimmer Do you like nas? |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moorish: 10:07pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
Obalufon:Yes. Popo, Sabe and ketu are our blood relatives separated from us by those who hated our people They are also the imperial might and glory of our ancient kingdoms So are we We used to be extremely powerful I have cried before When I remember the days old My brother I love you because you carry yoruba blood I admonish you to love your people also in benin kingdom |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by banku: 11:42pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
These people are tickled to death because Olu of Itsekiri called their Oba father. At least they did not point their left hand to Bini since it was a Bini son that gave them their dynasty. It simply means they are not in denial like the ungrateful Oba that re-wrote his own history hoping that Ogiamen would accept him without paying his token for the land at every crowning ceremony. The day Oba of Binin refuses to pay for the royal land/house, that is the the day they will send him packing back to Ile-Ife. After all, Ogiamen's children disrespect their Yoruba benefactors already. Can you imagine that Ogiamen tried to become Oba! He was soundly rejected, calling on Ife to send their son over. When are these Bini peasants going to Beni Republic, Sierra Leone, Brazil, Cuba, Jamaica and Trinidad to explain that they are Yoruba too? |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Nobody: 12:02am On Jul 18, 2018 |
Notice how the yoruba speaks even more rubbish when confronted with reality and truth, the guy above seems to have descended into some sort of skyzophrenia. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Nobody: 12:06am On Jul 18, 2018 |
One question to you yoruba: why do you keep trying to rewrite history and why do you focus your fraudulent efforts on my Edo people and our history? Where is this obsession coming from? |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Nobody: 12:09am On Jul 18, 2018 |
Yoruba, don't you find it weird that you claim to know Benin history better than the actual Edo and better than those who witnessed it and wrote it down? What kind of crazyness makes you guys act this way? Don't you understand that you are trying to reap where you did not sow and that nobody is buying your stories except your own retarded kids? |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 12:22am On Jul 18, 2018 |
banku:You have overtaken Babaramota to become the most foolish and dumbest Yoruba troll on here. Kudos to you.. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Favor99(m): 3:34am On Jul 18, 2018 |
Moorish:Yea pastors, some of them aren’t real. Too many of them preach strictly a prosperity gospel and not many of them teach about the most important commandment, which is love. That’s why people can go to church every Sunday all of their lives but will be filled with hatred for their fellow Nigerian. The church needs to get its priorities straight and teach things like Yeshua preached: loving your neighbors unconditionally even when they insult you or persecute you, being humble, being generous, kind, not loving money more than Yahweh, treating others with respect, not being proud or arrogant or condescending. These are the true Christ like qualities we should be emulating not the prosperity gospel preached in church where pastors promise people money wealth and healing and they mainly focus on those things. Although the Bible preached these gentle qualities I mentioned above such as being loving, respectful, peaceful humble etc it also states that we should be brave, bold and courageous and fearless as well. I like the topic you made the other day by the way |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Favor99(m): 3:39am On Jul 18, 2018 |
If any of you on this thread are Christians and your throwing insults and tribalistic condescending remarks, then shame on you guys! Your not real Christians, your not real patriots and your not truly Nigerians Your really enemies of progress Nigeria cannot move forward with disunity and tribalism it can’t. So guys put away your egos, br humble and respectful. Go and read the books Paul wrote in the Bible Debate in civil manner without putting others down |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Favor99(m): 3:48am On Jul 18, 2018 |
“Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar. For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen. And he has given us this command: Anyone who loves God must also love their brother and sister.” 1 John 4:20-21 - https://www.biblegateway.com/passage?search=1%20John%204:20-21&version=NIV |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by banku: 4:05am On Jul 18, 2018 |
Tell me any part of what I wrote that is not fact.. SomebAdy wants us to compare pictures. I did and complemented it with factual observation and a touch of history. I do not engage in gutter language. E pain am? davidnazee: |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Nobody: 4:53am On Jul 18, 2018 |
banku:It seems you don't know the meaning of the words "fact" and "history". Yoruba unproven stories claiming the king of a mighty kingdom named Benin Kingdom is neither fact nor history. Also, all that talk about reknown imposter ogiamen is either coming from your ignorance or you are just speaking trash on purpose. For your information, nobody comes from Ife and our Oba is our lord, he pays nothing to nobody and owes nothing to nobody. He is our king and his ancestors have always been on the throne as far as history can tell. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Nobody: 4:57am On Jul 18, 2018 |
Favor99:wtf is wrong with you? |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Favor99(m): 7:11am On Jul 18, 2018 |
prolog2:I didn’t really see much tribalism or hate from you. You were making your point. I’m talking about others calling people peasants and mongrels in every post of theirs |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Nobody: 7:25am On Jul 18, 2018 |
Favor99:OK, but please point that out, it felt as if there was some moral equivalence. The fact is this thread was opened by some yoruba who are hell bent on humiliating Edo and basically robbing Edo of Edo history. And they believe it is their right because they are "plenty". |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by gregyboy(m): 8:00am On Jul 18, 2018 |
The yorubsd get osagangan as their past onni edp always dominating long live oba of benin whereever is descendant goe to he establish a kingdom ....his son went to ife nd established a stool,he went to itsekeri nd established a stool What am emperor Umugun gha to kpere isee...
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| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Favor99(m): 9:12am On Jul 18, 2018 |
prolog2:Yea the Yorubas having been some sort false superiority complexes on this thread and on nairaland in general. Calling people peasants and mongrels in every post. The Yorubas on this thread like many Nigerians on nairaland are tribalistic and quite ridiculous if you ask me. I don’t understand why someone can repeatedly insult and put down another group of people without any sort of provocation. But their not our enemies. There are groups and entire races of people millions and millions and millions of times worse than that. Those are the people we should be careful of. Not senseless tribalism and banter on nairaland. There entire groups of very wicked evil people that so detest us Africans and oppress and exploit us. These people have a sick obsession with oppression and marginalizing the African race. These people originate from Caucasus mountain. Europeans and people of that extraction are our real problems not our fellow African |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Olu317(m): 9:58am On Jul 18, 2018*. Modified: 8:44am On Jul 19, 2018 |
prolog2:How are Olukumi related to Edo as you claim?Stop making mockery of yourself and your Edo people. All along,Oviedos who made or make these comments are bunch of clowns that want relevance because of ‘shame' on their part of knowing that a Yoruba prince; Oranmiyan gave you his descendant, ,known as Owo mi ka–Owoka (corruptly called ‘Eweka'),which mean,‘my hands bent and encircle him'–‘to lift him,' a name with no connection etymologically to Igodo or Udu. Whether you like the truth or hate it, Oba Bini and his entire household as well as some chiefs and their households in present day Bini kingdom belongs to ILE IFE. Here are Olukumi words in yoruba dialect,which debunk your lies as you claimed that they are your Oviedo brothers. Kindly, bring forth Oviedos dialect with similarities as with the same with Oluku mi- Yoruba shared words as listed below: 1. Gbemu wa —bring palm wine 2. Me wa nani —I didn’t come yesterday 3. Me ri e —I didn’t see you 4. Mu beer oka wa —bring one beer 5. Ita—pepper 6. Ogede lila—plantain 7. ogede keke —banana 8.ku wu se —what are you doing 9. Ule house 10. osa(ója) – market 11. Oma —child 12. O dowuo —see you tomorrow 13. É bo( è ka bo)—welcome. 14. Adebowale– crown (has) return back to its household/home Do you want me to mention to the wider world of past Oba Bini names which has no etymology in different Edo language? Except Yoruba's Stop the embarrassment you are bringing upon some respected Edos who know their history even before and after Yoruba dynasty begun. On Oluku mi,this is what a Prince of Oluku mi said , ‘Adebowale Ochei, who later arrived the scene, volunteered to speak on behalf of the king, H.R.M. Ayo Isinyemeze, the Oloza (Obi) of Ugbodu. According to him, history gave it that the Ugbodu Oluku mi speaking people migrated from Owo/Akure axis in the present day Ondo State'. Try this to read the interview, http://emotanafrican.com |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Favor99(m): 10:05am On Jul 18, 2018 |
Olu317:This guy is condescending smh ![]() At least he isn’t as blunt as his Yoruba brothers. Change the attitude. Do onto others as you would like them to do onto you What do you guys get from church anyway? What is this your religion that promotes hatred and superiority complexes? Definetly not Christianity. I live and grew up in America and I’m pretty well to do. I don’t come onto nairaland with big pompous ego thinking I’m better than people. Because you have large tribe shouldn’t mean you act superior Be humble or you will be humbled! I’m humble I don’t start throwing superiority complexes all over the place like you You think Yorubas are the biggest baddest people on the earth? There’s a whole world outside of Africa |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by banku: 12:23pm On Jul 18, 2018 |
You are one of those peasants that Oba met when he captured the Efa and Oru that were ruled by Ogiso. You would not know that. Oba has not always been with you. It was Ogiso before Oba. The Ogiso committed an abomination, beheading a pregnant woman. The Efa and Oru revolted. Before then, the Urhobo and others deserted the tyrants. You need to find out why Oba have to pay for the land before being crowned at each succession ceremony. As peasants that info is privileged only to your chiefs. I engage in facts and history that many of you peasants are not aware of, my buroda. prolog2: |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by gregyboy(m): 1:00pm On Jul 18, 2018 |
Favor99:Are u blaming the white for african failure ......i guess we are really a monkey the white can blame the blacks for thier development Wven if there is a slightest reason to blame them it should be that reason that should provoke our development.... Camerrons killing themselves for language difference you still wanna blame the white..... The whiteman do everything not to live in anarchy's not to be like africans but we do our best to live worst than animals .....fellow whitemen died to liberate the blacks in america ...as an edo man died to liberate yorubas for anything ? |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Olu317(m): 2:55pm On Jul 18, 2018*. Modified: 7:11pm On Jul 18, 2018 |
Favor99:1. Blunt as his brothers? I sincerely don't understand what you mean because without the first blood being drawn by your Oviedos, no Yoruba personality will in engage in gutter terms. As for me, I am not different if you overstep your boundary. 2. Change the attitude?', I dont have anything to change about my attitude because I have been well trained . 2. What Church thought who? Church didnt teach me humility but from my ancestry–parents . This is how my upbringing had been like.Omoluabi( omoiwabi) is what we promote as yorubas .We are always doing good unto others even if they don't do good to us. 3. Whose religion promote hatred? Yoruba religion (IFA) preach love and peace with all men . Infact love, righteouness, hospitality, tolerance ,endurance, humility, ,perseverance etc are part and parcel of Yoruba daily lifestyle. 4. Large tribe and feel superior? I have not seen where Yoruba feel superior to any group or tribe or ethnicity. So get it off your chest.The largeness of Yoruba ethnicity had been for a long time and has nothing to do with anyone. And the attitude of your former Oba Eriediuwa, falsely claiming oduduwa as Igodo prince whose ancestral lineage started through oranmiyan– Owoka that became second man to use the title Oba was the beginning of this rancour. Funny enough, Eweka didnt grow up to really feel the warmth or close relationship wth Oranmiyan. And I for one, whose ancestor was ‘Oranmiyan' will not be emotional like some Edos based on their revisionism because the truth must be made known to you Edos and the world at large,so that 21st century lies of Edos won't envelope the truth. 5. You are well to do? Good for you but it has nothing to with what your people are doing on here . Perhaps teach them humility,since you are a super rich Edo man.But tell them not to use vulgar words on my–our– Yoruba sacred ancestral throne. 6. Biggest, Baddest tribe? Yoruba isnt a tribe but ethnicity. There was no record from 1472 that Portuguese arrived in Yoruba land about Yorubas being documented as savages by any European explorers. So,where did you get all those assumption of yours? And noone borne of Yoruba blood associate with bad and ugly but goodness ,which must be showcase always to fellow humanity, irrespective of place of origin , exposure and shortcomings. Edos on NL ,especially on Yoruba are the the people you need advice to keep off on Yoruba –Oba Bini issue. Proudly Yoruba blood. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Favor99(m): 8:55pm On Jul 18, 2018 |
banku:Change this your attitude. You live on less than $2 a day and your calling people peasants? Wtf |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Favor99(m): 9:08pm On Jul 18, 2018 |
Olu317:You always ignore the stuff your Yoruba brothers are doing. You’ve been using vulgar and demeaning words throughout this thread. Calling people peasants, mongrels, witches and stuff. Why the hel* do you keep calling us Oviedo. “You oviedos this” “you oviedos that” You have no humility, your pompous and have a very artificial false sense of superiority Other nations have median incomes on average of $50,000-$60,000 per year, how would you like it if they came and started acting condescending to you. Is Yoruba or any ethnic group in Nigeria anywhere near that? Why the superiority complex when your living in abject poverty? You shouldn’t be looking down on anybody with such meager income. When I see fellow Yorubas going through racism from oyinbo here in the US, I Dey see it’s just karma. They no different. I’ve been trying to make peace and be respectful, but pompous visionless people like you continue acting anyhow on this nairaland Didn’t that Ooni of ife say Edo is part and parcel of Yoruba territory last year? Arrogance! I don’t care about your Eweka or Oduduwa or Orayiman and who came first second or last. Or if they came from the sky or the forest. It makes no difference to me. Instead of looking ways to develop the country which starts with unity or picking up a skill your here acting like your ish don’t stink forming complexes throughout this thread ![]() |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by banku: 11:33pm On Jul 18, 2018 |
I beg your pardon sir. Who live on what dollars a day? If you have not been to the farm of others' papa, never say na your papa farm big pass. A word of caution. This is internet, you do not know who is who, my brother. Favor99:Where were you all these years when Yoruba watch the usurpers gloat and develop wings while they were ignored? When Prof Ade Ajaiyi was called upon to refute the revised history, didn't he ignore the usurpers? Somebody has to stop, has to stop you guys. It has started spreading overseas. A boy came out at a party to give a lesson he learned. Guess what? the revised history! If it was not nipped, it could have caught fire. Do not start what you cannot finish. Favor99: |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Olu317(m): 11:42pm On Jul 18, 2018*. Modified: 12:13am On Jul 19, 2018 |
Favor99:I don't ignore what other Yorubas say or had said on this thread. In as much you didn't deem it fit to first caution the Edos on this thread to stop using vulgar words, why would I plead with Yorubas to do same? Edos started it,why would you expect yorubas to stop?Beside,every yoruba person remained entitled to his or her opinion on this thread. And historical account and verfiable researches carried out did support the perspective of Yorubas on this subject matter. Don't blame me if you see me use Oviedo(descendant of Edo) because even your Edo brothers claimed every Yoruba word as originating from Edo. To the extent of claiming the word, ‘omo,' which is an eternal word for a descendant of a yoruba parent or nation . Unlike Edos that use different for nation and descendants of any parents. I had to prove this beyond doubt about the etymology of the word, ‘omo,'which didn't originate from Edo even if its shared word. Oviedo isn't a derogatory word because it is a descriptive identity of Edos. On per capital of other nations can't be compared with Yorubas but with Nigeria because of bad governance and this is definitely not Yoruba's fault but all saboteurs of the economy,right from The First Self Rule Government in 1959/1960 in Nigeria,with the aid of British government that lumped Nigeria into one entity over hundred years ago, if you don't know. And the pivotal rule to absolute development is vast investment on human capital and mechanical–science and practical technology . So, when there is good governance, everything fall inline . So,the problems aren't new and the solutions aren't farfetched Oh you do see fellow Yorubas going through racism in the state and you assumed, it is pay back or karma? Obviously ,you seem not to realise that racism is a coined word in the recent past and does not know ‘human colour'. Oppressive groups had been with humanity from the very beginning of civilization through human class,so it is not a new thing. Funny enough,the oppressors aren't civilized but having inferiority complex problem of some sort. Equity,fairness and Justice reign supreme in Yoruba land,which make yoruba people civilize. An oppressive boss remain one ,irrespective of colour or ethnicity or race. So, it is not a big deal.Looking down on anyone? Too bad for you judge quickly because you feel bad about Yorubas . As for me, humility is a way of life because I was born into it, raise in it and became an adult in it. So,looking down on anyone is overstretched opinion of yours and I can't be accused of such,simply because Yoruba history is robust and filled with a lot historical accounts and achievement. It has nothing to do with looking down on smaller groups You threw caution to the wind,through your emotion because you arent vast in history . Eweka,was oranmiyan descendant,while Odudua was oranmiyan grandfather . Let me clearly affirm it again,that I will not accept any trash from anyone, who stoop low to insult my patrilineal ancestor called oranmiyan. As long as I am on any thread,I will not allow it happen,because I shall respond. Even your tailend statement is an insult . You make peace? Come off it . There was no place I can think of that you did such. Beside, save your strength because you arent ready for it . If you want to be a pacemaker, then learn the rule of how to become one. Ooni never claimed Edo as Oranmiyan–Yoruba enclave but Bini in the land of Udu-Ado-Edo . Kindly spot the difference between your statement, mine and Ooni's . This is the historical account and relationship between Bini and Yoruba. Note: 50,000$–60,000$ per annum? This isnt relevant to this thread because, politic/investment/education/ economy related sections are where you need infer on as it relate to financial earning of an individual (per capita income ) or as relate to GDP in a nation Who is visionless? Have you no knowledeg of such word? This is the problem with someone like you that chose to use word sparingly without caution. So bad . You claimed to be a young peacemaker yet you chose side that favoured you and your Edo group. I can see in between your peacemaking! Be careful with your above provocative statement. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Favor99(m): 1:15am On Jul 19, 2018 |
Olu317:Nigga I’ll put whatever I need to put to drive my point home. Ya dig? Anyway this section of nairaland clearly says no tribalistic or racist comments allowed. It says it in bold letters before you send a post. You and your Yoruba brothers should get booted off this thread for violating that rule in every f’n post. The section for your Yoruba people will be racial and ethnic and sectarian politics. That’s where you can have tribalism there, Yorubas Dey plenty for there So don’t tell me what section I need to put what in. Your managing on a few dollars a day with electricity 4 hours in the day and your turning your nose up at other ethnic groups calling them peasants and witches. Get the f out of here with shi.t. You ain’t humble Edos where just retaliating to the constant verbal abuse. While your brothers were treating us like you treat Egun people. Do you need me to post that link again to that article where you abuse Egun people? |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 1:37am On Jul 19, 2018 |
Favor99:Stop bringing Egun into this issue mongrel.. your people are fun of abusing the yoruba.. Now we are playing your game with you you are ranting .. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Favor99(m): 2:04am On Jul 19, 2018 |
Obalufon:Since when did Edos abuse you? What thread? Gerroout of here. Tribalism is your thing. How would you like it if me who has a more than comfortable life in America started calling you a peasant or a bum because of your modest income. Nonsense! But nah I don’t do stupid shi.t like that |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by banku: 2:09am On Jul 19, 2018 |
Favor or whatever you call yourself. By your words and language, you are probably somewhere in some ghetto thinking you live in a rich country. Do you realize that most Americans do not have $1,000.00 that is a thousand dollars in the bank or live from one paycheck to another? People who use your type of language just cannot express themselves logically so they turn to language used as in the ghetto to show they are civilized. Nevertheless, I think it's worth the trouble to put these usurpers straight. |
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and you assumed, it is pay back or karma? Obviously ,you seem not to realise that racism is a coined word in the recent past and does not know ‘human colour'. Oppressive groups had been with humanity from the very beginning of civilization through human class,so it is not a new thing. Funny enough,the oppressors aren't civilized but having inferiority complex problem of some sort. Equity,fairness and Justice reign supreme in Yoruba land,which make yoruba people civilize. An oppressive boss remain one ,irrespective of colour or ethnicity or race. So, it is not a big deal.