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| The Reason Why Jesus Christ Is Flogging Your Church Instead Of Blessing It by alBHAGDADI: 7:53am On Jul 22, 2018 |
Hello everyone, Today I will be speaking on why Jesus is flogging your Church instead of blessing it. I know someone will be quick to say the Church he attends is not getting flogged because it is blessed materially. He might be quick to point to the fact that his church is fully air-conditioned, has a beautiful stage with purple lightenings and the members flood the parking space with cars. That's not the kind of blessing I'm talking about. Many Churches are spiritually dead, but have ascribed material possession to mean they are alive. A Church which can't perform miracles, which doesn't go soulwinning, doesn't care for homeless people is not blessed but is getting flogged by Jesus. There are certain things such a Church could be doing wrong for them to be dead spiritually. Today, I will be speaking on one of them. Let's start by reading the passage below. John 2:13-16 13 Now the Passover of the Jews was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14 And He found in the temple those who sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the money changers doing business. 15 When He had made a whip of cords, He drove them all out of the temple, with the sheep and the oxen, and poured out the changers’ money and overturned the tables. 16 And He said to those who sold doves, “Take these things away! Do not make My Father’s house a house of merchandise!” Why do you think Jesus flogged those in the temple in Jerusalem? Because they sold items in the temple thereby turning it into a market place. That is exactly what many Churches have beceom today. At the entrance or at one corner of churches today, you will find a table which showcases books, CDs, anointing oil, stickers etc being sold. You can even find a restaurant or a kiosk around where donut and drinks are sold. All of that is turning the house of God into a market place. You might be quick to say there is nothing bad about that because it is just food sold in case members go hungry. Also, the CDs and books contain messages of great pastors like Kenneth Hagin, Joyce Meyers, Joel Osteen, E.A Adeboye, Bishop Oyedepo etc; you say they pertain to the word of God. You might be smart to say those Jesus Christ was angry at for selling at the temple in Jerusalem was because they sold things like doves, oxen, sheep, and not things like books. You might also be quick to say those sheep, oxen and doves have nothing to do with God, but books and CDs containing messages of great pastors have a lot to do with God. Have you ever asked why those people decided to go sell sheep, oxen and doves at the temple when it is not a pet store or a farm? They took those things there because people needed them for the things of God. Back then, when you want to pay your tithe with farm produce but the produce are too big to carry from your own City to Jerusalem, it is allowed to sell the produce then go to Jerusalem with the money. When you get to Jerusalem, you can now use the money to buy anything ranging from sheep, oxen, dove, wheat etc which you can now drop at the temple. That's why those business men moved their wares closer to the temple so as to be closer to customers (sharp guys). Can you now see that just as your CDs, anointing oil and books have something to do with God, the sheep and oxen also do? They also have another thing in common: they are being sold in the house of God. That's when Jesus Christ comes in with a whip because you all have angered Him and turned His Father's house into a market place. It's even worse in today's Churches because the pamphlet or bulletin printed for the day's sermon also includes adverts of businesses in the local community. What we should expect next: billboards and posters hanging all over the walls in a Church advertising soft drinks and other products. You might build the biggest cathedral, but a little disobedience can be dangerous for the congregation. Instead of getting blessed spiritually such that people see vision, dream dreams, speaking in a foreign language and perform miracles, they are getting flogged and blinded away from the truth. May God help us all. Kindly show this to your pastor or an elder in your Church. 22 Likes 5 Shares
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| Re: The Reason Why Jesus Christ Is Flogging Your Church Instead Of Blessing It by ITbomb(m): 8:37am On Jul 22, 2018 |
Make I show my pastor shey? My pastor wey give usher 50 pieces of pamphlets and instruct him to return back 5k to him before close of service (I don't care how you are going to do it) 10 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: The Reason Why Jesus Christ Is Flogging Your Church Instead Of Blessing It by nairavsdollars(f): 8:56am On Jul 22, 2018 |
All these pentecostal churches are nothing but shrines. The primary motive of the founders is to make money and not to win souls for Christ. That's why all you hear every Sunday is PROSPERITY MESSAGE 5 Likes |
| Re: The Reason Why Jesus Christ Is Flogging Your Church Instead Of Blessing It by Skepticus: 8:56am On Jul 22, 2018 |
 So Christ is now an Angry koboko-wielding soldier? 6 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: The Reason Why Jesus Christ Is Flogging Your Church Instead Of Blessing It by cvibe2: 8:56am On Jul 22, 2018 |
Oj |
| Re: The Reason Why Jesus Christ Is Flogging Your Church Instead Of Blessing It by theoldpretender(m): 8:59am On Jul 22, 2018 |
Good topic no 2. Me,if I buy olive oil,it is to fry stuff in it.(Healthiest oil by the way). Very very true. 2 Likes |
| Re: The Reason Why Jesus Christ Is Flogging Your Church Instead Of Blessing It by DarkMagic(m): 8:59am On Jul 22, 2018 |
This is so spot on Some churches are so materialistic Like the hell is "anointing oil of 30k" Anointing oil ooo...that I doubt they even pray on just to exploit"will i say ignorant" christains? We should focus on what on church should be   3 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: The Reason Why Jesus Christ Is Flogging Your Church Instead Of Blessing It by theoldpretender(m): 9:00am On Jul 22, 2018 |
Skepticus: Only against wrong doing, sir.  Keep in mind that many of those businessmen in the Temple were involved in exploitative practices. 1 Like |
| Re: The Reason Why Jesus Christ Is Flogging Your Church Instead Of Blessing It by emerged01(m): 9:03am On Jul 22, 2018 |
Selling things in the church should not be allowed. I agreed with Op that many churches are dead spiritually. This is the time churches need to go back to school of the holyspirit . 8 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: The Reason Why Jesus Christ Is Flogging Your Church Instead Of Blessing It by randomShek: 9:04am On Jul 22, 2018 |
Very nice |
| Re: The Reason Why Jesus Christ Is Flogging Your Church Instead Of Blessing It by TheUbermensch: 9:11am On Jul 22, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI: Those "adverts" help pay for the Bulletin. And a good number of times it's Job vacancies, admission slots, or services to be used by the church members (printing, tailoring). How's that a sin? |
| Re: The Reason Why Jesus Christ Is Flogging Your Church Instead Of Blessing It by emmkeffs(f): 9:11am On Jul 22, 2018 |
This is just your perspective |
| Re: The Reason Why Jesus Christ Is Flogging Your Church Instead Of Blessing It by AreaFada2: 9:12am On Jul 22, 2018 |
Some people will not like this post. OP you wan ruin the only option for some lazy yoots to ride big cars, wear sharp suits and date big girls? Abi you want make dem go do yahoo plus?   1 Like |
| Re: The Reason Why Jesus Christ Is Flogging Your Church Instead Of Blessing It by kafibiz(m): 9:14am On Jul 22, 2018 |
Ok |
| Re: The Reason Why Jesus Christ Is Flogging Your Church Instead Of Blessing It by ehissi(m): 9:18am On Jul 22, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI: Reading such things like this on the internet breaks me up in ways only God can understand. Friends, who are reading, anytime you see things like this anywhere on the internet, remember these 2 scriptures Matthew 11:28 -29 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. Hebrews 5:11-12 11 Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing. 12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. Matthew 11:28-29 is a very common scripture that is used to preach to exhort soon-to-be converts. But there is something people miss in verse 29. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me In other words, take a portion of my burden, my baggage, my responsibility and learn from me. I am meek - humility in the midst of power & authority - and lowly - raw, circumstantial humility - in heart and you shall find rest for your souls. There are those who take up responsibility within local churches but learn nothing from Him, there are those who take no burden nor place nor responsibility anywhere but seek to learn from him (the first set may be filled with a certain level of understanding/knowledge but no wisdom and the second set may be filled with wisdom but lack understanding/knowledge to appropriate that wisdom. Strangely enough the second set are typically the most zealous and outspoken of the 2... )There are those who don't subscribe to any of the 2, (either learning from Him nor taking His yoke) and insist that they are Christians and children of God......  The Bible says that the Lord knows those who are His (2Timothy 2:19) so it not my place to judge anyone..... But I believe those who dedicate themselves to taking His yoke and learning from him, tend towards maturity and can hardly make this kind comment OP is blasting like this..... Hebrews 5:11 uses an expression "dull of hearing". What does this connote? When Jesus was leaving, he made a solemn promise, which some people fail to tap into. In John14:26 Jesus said 26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. The bible declares boldly in several instances including Revelations 2:29, " He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit is saying......." My question? Have you seriously considered all this comment in your post in the place of prayer. Does the Spirit of God endorse/agree with this your line of commentary. Jesus Christ Himself said "I build my church....", there is but one church and that is the Church of Jesus Christ, the general assembly of the First born which are written in heaven (Heb 12-23). A local assembly of believers, under the banner of a ministry, lead by a man/woman with a passion which may be born out of a calling of God or a righteous desire is not the Whole church of Jesus Christ. And as such what goes there, is not an automatic reflection of what is happening in the whole body/Church of Jesus Christ, as seen or heard (either through visions, dreams or other forms of revelation) in the realms of the Spirit. You are not the first to make this kind of blunder. When Jezebel sought to kill the prophet elijah, he went before the presence of God in the mountains and sought to die, since - according to him - God has abandoned all the prophets and allowed jezebel/ahab to hold sway in sin and evil, and how they have killed all the prophets and he was the last one alive (1kings 19 from verse 11). But God corrected him and made him to understand that he was only one of 7,000 prophets who were still alive and hadn't succumbed to idol worship under Ahab/Jezebel. I can boldly say, based on personal bible study, that Elymas in the bible represents the perfect minister for the unflogged church based on your requirements, except that he sought to pervert the way of the Lord - for he was a sorcerer. But then again, only a man who knows the truth, knows when it is in danger of perversion. I do not believe that a church or local assembly is under "flogging" as you call it, in the absence of miracles, soulwinning and care for the homeless because I know that William Braham was not guilty of any of what you mentioned but still suffered a flogging. Why? Because of disobedience. Some of the things you mentioned may have nothing to do with what the Lord sent you as a ministry to do, the core focus of the ministry. I know an NGO whose focus is to teach karate to Women above 45years of age in some communities in the southern part of Africa and in kenya, why? Because the superstitious belief of the people is that the cure to STD's of all kind is sex with an old woman. Hence the culture of sexual harassment and rape towards old women is rampant. Along the line, they preach the Gospel. But what if another zealous person challenges them ( like some JW people sometimes do) and say fighting is ungodly/sinful, hence teaching old women to fight is wrong. Whose counsel are they expected to follow?! Are they expected to abandon what God told them to do to fulfill people's requirements of a sinless church/ministry or an "unflogged" church? Also your reference to the money changers isn't complete! Why? Because the money changers existed in the temple before the days of Jesus, when the land was very much ruled by Jewish kings. And there was nothing wrong with their presence in the temple. But what was wrong with their presence in the temple under the rule of the roman empire is clearly seen/elaborated in Matthew 21:12-13, Mark 11:17 and Luke 19:46....... Matthew21:12-13 And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves, 13 And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves. They were cheating the people and that's why Jesus called them thieves. Proverbs16:11 A just weight and balance are the Lord's: all the weights of the bag are his work. Leviticus 19:36 Just balances, just weights, a just ephah, and a just hin, shall ye have: I am the Lord your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt. Proverbs11:1 A false balance is abomination to the Lord: but a just weight is his delight. He called them thieves because they had turned money changing to business and were profiting heavily from it, and God had warned the people severally against usury and unethical business practices before the arrival of Jesus, so He drove them out without hesitation. As for adverts, in Bulletins? I grew up in a catholic home, though I eventually left the catholic church. In those days Bulletin used to be free, but at a time it was sold for 1kobo, then 50kobo, then 2 was sold for #5 - it was #2.50 as recent as 1996. I have no idea what it is right now, but I do know that church finances isnt what some people think it is. I once walked into a mega church where a friend of mine served as accountant within, the country and was impressed with its beauty. But by the time, me and my friend dey gist, the people that really keep that place going - financially in terms of running cost of diesel for generator, servicing AC, generator, renting chairs, decorations are not up to 8 ) in a church of over 2,000 persons. People that pay tithe consistently are not more than 150 and that includes the staff strength of 60 - deacons, pastors, cleaners, security guard etc and majority of the people are civil servants. So in whatever way any ministry chooses to source for revenue to maintain it operations - in my opinion oooh - is okay, as long as it doesnt contradict the purpose of which the ministry was raised nor the word of God nor bring/reduce the work of God already on ground to rubble . The reality of the Matter is that there are ministries that have become big and there are those that are not there yet, so church finance is a very difficult/tricky thing to navigate. What a ministry does in a bid to raise funds is a reflection of the attitude/kind of members they have. Thats why when I see churches laying charges on things like baptism, prayers or deliverance, I feel sorry for them, because it means that the congregation are not doing their role in the house of God and that Pastor may have given in to temptation. Nevertheless, there is a difference between between transfering cost and usury. If as a man of God, for example you are led to anoint water and make it available to your members in their private time, it shouldn't necessarily become a business venture in my own opinion, except he is Led to use it as a way of raising money by God (the bible is replete with examples). It could even be that a man of God or Pastor wants to make it available for all. But what happens when you cannot afford right away to make it available 100% free. In my opinion, a wise person/administrator will have to bottle the water after it has been prayed for and transfer the cost of such to people . Or seek for people who will partner with him to sponsor that project - this happens alot of times but carnal folks misread/interpret it most times as a pastor trying to steal. A ministry may decide to buy rollers and filters and package the water through the exact same process as bottled water (which is a good practice, if you are going to encourage them to drink it) some may decide to buy already bottled water and just pray on it, some may decide to even use water from water dispensers and just create bottles and fill them up. In the end, there is nothing wrong with selling such things in church. Its the way you go about it that matters. Nevertheless, my advise is to pray for Pastors because, all things are lawful but not all things may be expedient to them according to the call they have received 5 Likes 2 Shares |
| Re: The Reason Why Jesus Christ Is Flogging Your Church Instead Of Blessing It by abumeinben(m): 9:18am On Jul 22, 2018 |
Ah You mean this?
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| Re: The Reason Why Jesus Christ Is Flogging Your Church Instead Of Blessing It by ollah2: 9:21am On Jul 22, 2018 |
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| Re: The Reason Why Jesus Christ Is Flogging Your Church Instead Of Blessing It by TeeTeem: 9:22am On Jul 22, 2018 |
Most Churhes are spiritually dead bcs of this business entrepreneurship skill developed by the house of God. Christians no longer find solace in going to Church instead what you get is depression, oppression and frustration after every service. Twisting bible passages to suit their selfish life styles.I advise you go on your knees and connect with your maker personally. |
| Re: The Reason Why Jesus Christ Is Flogging Your Church Instead Of Blessing It by Dottore: 9:28am On Jul 22, 2018 |
Why is it that it's only the poor that suffer as a result of sin. poor men waste in jail for shoplifting without arms. Why are the public office holders not suffering from their perpetual sins of looting. Hosting nude parties with young girls almost every weekend, robbing public funds and all that. Their children keep getting better positioned in life and living big. Why is it that Gowon is hale and hearty despite his atrocious acts to South Eastern Nigeria. All the past looters are alive and happy and living big with their families: Babangida, Obasanjo, Buhari. Jonathan all the past and present governors of the 36 states. Why are leaders of developed countries intimidating and exploiting smaller ones with direct and indirect attacks that end up wasting many innocent people. Look at Syria. Libya, Iraq etc Why are Boko Haram attackers still free and striking so are ISIS and Hamas and a host of others. Why why why!!! 2 Likes |
| Re: The Reason Why Jesus Christ Is Flogging Your Church Instead Of Blessing It by Nobody: 9:28am On Jul 22, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI: All religious people are dead spiritually. 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: The Reason Why Jesus Christ Is Flogging Your Church Instead Of Blessing It by alBHAGDADI: 9:28am On Jul 22, 2018 |
TheUbermensch:It's not a must to have a bulletin. If it will make the church disobey God, then away with it. btw, all what you listed above are still advertisement for businesses. 1 Like |
| Re: The Reason Why Jesus Christ Is Flogging Your Church Instead Of Blessing It by alBHAGDADI: 9:29am On Jul 22, 2018 |
emmkeffs:Bring another perspective to counter this one. |
| Re: The Reason Why Jesus Christ Is Flogging Your Church Instead Of Blessing It by Rolandonyi: 9:33am On Jul 22, 2018 |
Good write up. May the Almighty continue to increase you in wisdom and understanding. |
| Re: The Reason Why Jesus Christ Is Flogging Your Church Instead Of Blessing It by TheUbermensch: 9:35am On Jul 22, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI: |
| Re: The Reason Why Jesus Christ Is Flogging Your Church Instead Of Blessing It by TheUbermensch: 9:37am On Jul 22, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI: I don't see how running a business is a sin. What of churches where the pastor writes books or runs schools? Doesn't he still advertise the stuff to the church? Your argument is on a very faulty premise. You're comparing people who traded directly in the church yard to those who create awareness about their businesses in church magazines and that's very wrong. 1 Like |
| Re: The Reason Why Jesus Christ Is Flogging Your Church Instead Of Blessing It by alBHAGDADI: 9:40am On Jul 22, 2018 |
TheUbermensch:What's the difference? I sell in the church yard vs I advertise in the same yard? It's all business. Can't you go and advertise on radio or some other platform? If a pastor writes a book, he should sell it outside the church. If he runs a school, he should advertise it on radio, not in Church. If he so wants his members to patronize his school, he should go to their houses and speak of it, not in Church. 2 Likes |
| Re: The Reason Why Jesus Christ Is Flogging Your Church Instead Of Blessing It by TheUbermensch: 9:48am On Jul 22, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI: Honestly I can't understand the head of this your argument. So people shouldn't reach out to church members that they provide so and so service? You don't know the structure of synagogues in Jesus's time. Maybe advertisment of business was a thing, then some people decided to take it up a notch and sell in the temple. Advertisement is harmless of a truth. If you're not interested you're not interested. I'm Catholic and I buy bulletins when I can. I hardly glance at the adverts because I'm not looking for anything. |
| Re: The Reason Why Jesus Christ Is Flogging Your Church Instead Of Blessing It by alBHAGDADI: 9:55am On Jul 22, 2018 |
TheUbermensch:Reaching out to church members concerning products you sell is the same thing and a forerunner to selling in Church. Can't you do your advertisement elsewhere? Or won't you sell if you don't advertise in Church? Why are you so comfortable with disobeying God? Perhaps, you are one of those who carrying it this disobedience that you can't do without because of the profit . |
| Re: The Reason Why Jesus Christ Is Flogging Your Church Instead Of Blessing It by Udyy(f): 9:56am On Jul 22, 2018 |
[Which scripture?quote author=ehissi post=69599680] Reading such things like this on the internet breaks me up in ways only God can understand. Friends who are reading, anytime you see things like this anywhere on the internet, remember this scripture [/quote] |
| Re: The Reason Why Jesus Christ Is Flogging Your Church Instead Of Blessing It by VULCAN(m): 10:01am On Jul 22, 2018 |
The OP failed woefully as he has no idea of why Jesus drove them out so he formulated his own based on The Letter of the Bible and not The Spirit. Sad. Jesus said the religious teachers of his day were "...Blind leading the blind" |
| Re: The Reason Why Jesus Christ Is Flogging Your Church Instead Of Blessing It by alBHAGDADI: 10:14am On Jul 22, 2018 |
VULCAN:Why not show us why Jesus drove them out? |
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