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walls01:
you still don't understand life. when you see events happening you can't tell why it happened. if you read the Bible you will understand better. their is reward for all things you see good or bad, death is not the end my friend it is judgement time

ollah2:
I understand life and have read the bible. Does answer the question that God will protect and forgive you despite all the bad things you have done like Cain while the innocent and his servants are dying like cockroaches

anataala:
The First miracle of Jesus in The Holy Quran



The Bible says the first miracle of Jesus, occurred when he was over thirty years old. In John 2:1-10, this miracle when Jesus turned water into wine in a wedding. Jesus made this potent wine that the men have "well drunk." This was not grape juice. It was the same wine that, according to the Bible, enabled the daughters of Lot to seduce their father, Genesis 19:32-33. It was the same wine that the Christian is advised to avoid in Ephesians 5:18 "And be not drunk with wine." The Quran does not mention this alleged miracle to Jesus.

On the other hand, in Islam, Jesus′ first miracle occurred when he was a baby. He spoke as an infant. He talked to defend his mother from any devious judgment from her people. Now ask yourself, which version of the first miracle would you choose for Jesus? The Islamic version or the Biblical version? The Christian could read in the Quran everything he wanted to know about Jesus, but in the most noble, elevated and sublime language. A Christian or a Muslim, when reading the above story in the Quran, could not help being moved by it. I personally saw Muslim adults crying in humility when reading or listening to this miraculous story of the birth of Jesus.

The second section of Surah Maryam, Surah 19, Ayah 16 to 40, tells the story of the birth of Jesus:

16. Relate in the Book (the story of) Mary, when she withdrew from her family to a place in the East.

17. She placed a screen (to screen herself) from them; then We sent her our angel, and he appeared before her as a man in all respects.

18. She said: "I seek refuge from thee to ((Allah)) Most Gracious: (come not near) if thou dost fear Allah."

19. He said: "Nay, I am only a messenger from thy Lord, (to announce) to thee the gift of a holy son.

20. She said: "How shall I have a son, seeing that no man has touched me, and I am not unchaste?"

21. He said: "So (it will be): Thy Lord saith, "that is easy for Me: and (We wish) to appoint him as a Sign unto men and a Mercy from Us": It is a matter (so) decreed."

22. So she conceived him, and she retired with him to a remote place.

23. And the pains of childbirth drove her to the trunk of a palm-tree: She cried (in her anguish): "Ah! would that I had died before this! would that I had been a thing forgotten and out of sight!"

24. But (a voice) cried to her from beneath the (palm-tree): "Grieve not! for thy Lord hath provided a rivulet beneath thee;

25. "And shake towards thyself the trunk of the palm-tree: It will let fall fresh ripe dates upon thee.

26. "So eat and drink and cool (thine) eye. And if thou dost see any man, say, "I have vowed a fast to ((Allah)) Most Gracious, and this day will I enter into not talk with any human being""

27. At length she brought the (babe) to her people, carrying him (in her arms). They said: "O Mary! truly an amazing thing hast thou brought!

28. "O sister of Aaron! Thy father was not a man of evil, nor thy mother a woman unchaste!"

29. But she pointed to the babe. They said: "How can we talk to one who is a child in the cradle?"

30. He said: "I am indeed a servant of Allah. He hath given me revelation and made me a prophet;

31. "And He hath made me blessed wheresoever I be, and hath enjoined on me Prayer and Charity as long as I live;

32. "(He) hath made me kind to my mother, and not overbearing or miserable;

33. "So peace is on me the day I was born, the day that I die, and the day that I shall be raised up to life (again)"!

34. Such (was) Jesus the son of Mary: (it is) a statement of truth, about which they (vainly) dispute.

35. It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! when He determines a matter, He only says to it, "Be", and it is.

36. Verily Allah is my Lord and your Lord: Him therefore serve ye: this is a Way that is straight.

37. But the sects differ among themselves: and woe to the unbelievers because of the (coming) Judgment of a Momentous Day!

38. How plainly will they see and hear, the Day that they will appear before Us! but the unjust today are in error manifest!

39. But warn them of the Day of Distress, when the matter will be determined: for (behold,) they are negligent and they do not believe!

40. It is We Who will inherit the earth, and all beings thereon: to Us will they all be returned.

The above verses represent the personal side of the experiences of the worshippers of Allah in relation to their familiar with the presence or environment.

walls01:
you don't understand the story of Cain, God forgave Cain like any other person that repent truly. my friend you are more concerned about this life, the Bible says the righteous die but no one understands, it is to take them to eternal life. read the story of Stephen how he was brutally killed. their is another life my brother be more concerned about that

delkuf:
you see the problem with you Muslims is that you are tagging the Holy Bible with Qur'an, that is wrong. we Christian don't believe your Quran. the Bible is different from the Quran. what you study in the Quran, is only in the Quran. it is not in the Bible. so don't tag it together

ollah2:
Why can't the Biible be tagged with the Quran?
What makes the Bible different from the Quran?

delkuf:
they are two different book. it is one book that you should hate the people that believe in the other book. you said it yourself this morning. so do you want to tell me that they are the same book

ollah2:
He repented and was forgiven. Same way killer, ritualist, terrorist et al will be forgiven once they repent like Cain while those at the receiving end are dead, buried and forgotten.

walls01:
yes, we all have sinned and hope to be forgiven if we truly repent. a repentant soul really is better than a dead sinful soul cause he tries to be a better person bringing souls to God And making the world a better place to leave. he makes corrections and teach people not to make same mistake hence God loves repentant souls. death comes in any way, be prepared to die but righteously. live a righteous life so when you die you can make heaven,

ollah2:
I don't understand the bolded

ollah2:
Yes which means the innocent and God servants can die as much as possible but the killers et al would be forgiven since they have repented in order to win more souls for God.

Why is he always looking for souls to be won for him when he was watching killers kill innocents and servants?

Perhaps he just love bloodshed like he has always loved it from the OT to NT to this date.

delkuf:
I read in one post where you said Christians are enemies of Muslims. it is in there quran. so if it is in there quran, why would you say they are the same book?

walls01:
argue intelligently! man is a free moral agent like God, God cannot interfere but will surely judge. hence encourage all to obey the law and win souls so to avoid the law.

ollah2:
Surely I'm arguing intelligently and you have made me understand that whatever happens to human regardless of whom the person is and where it happens, dead is dead. But a killer, ritualist et at will be forgiven once he has repented so he can win souls for God. Ain't that a perfect and miracously God?

I understand perfectly now.

walls01:
dead is dead" I like that. also only true repentance is acceptable

ollah2:
Thank you. It was really nice discussing with you while exposing the hypocrisy and bigotry in God.

Enjoy your Sunday sir

enilove:
Is Islam not enemy of Christianity ?

Can you pray for Islam , whose agenda is to kill Christianity and force your children to serve Satan?

When your enemy is blessed. he will not leave you alone neither will he help you but will oppress you till you die.

WHERE IS LEAH SHUAB ? That is the work of an enemy.

Satan is the god of Islam who has succeeded in caging all the Muslims and is using them to fight the Christians world wide.

Our real enemy is Satan and his agents of darkness , you have to pray against them and spoil their plans.

Why did Jesus not pray for Judas Iscariot but cursed him ?
Why did Jesus pray for Peter and not Judas?

Matthew 26:21-24 KJV
And as they did eat, he said, Verily I say unto you, that one of you shall betray me.
[22] And they were exceeding sorrowful, and began every one of them to say unto him, Lord, is it I?
[23] And he answered and said, He that dippeth his hand with me in the dish, the same shall betray me.
[24] The Son of man goeth as it is written of him: but WOE unto that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! it had been good for that man if he had not been born.

TonyeBarcanista:
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Islam is not an enemy of Christianity, Muslims aren't enemies of Christians

enilove:
Is Islam not enemy of Christianity?

enilove:
Can you pray for Islam , [s]whose agenda is to kill Christianity and force your children to serve Satan[/s]?

Kingspin:
You are a joker. Imams spend all this preaching to his followers on Christians as a results of his evil sermons Christians became vulnerable to Islamic attacks e.g. Nigeria. By making Christianity as a center of their teachings rather than preaching love to them, Christ followers became easy target. If they can change their teaching today the targets on Christians will reduce.

General, Christians see the devil as their real enemy but some Muslims see Christians are the real enemy.

JESUS remain the only peaceful man

delkuf:
you see the problem with you Muslims is that you are tagging the Holy Bible with Qur'an, that is wrong. we Christian don't believe your Quran. the Bible is different from the Quran. what you study in the Quran, is only in the Quran. it is not in the Bible. so don't tag it together

budaatum:
You, actually, are the one I am laughing at. So much hatred wrapped up in wolfskin hasn't quite managed to hide what it really is.

Jesus may be a peaceful man, but that doesn't seem to imply Christians are too, it would seem.

Kingspin:
There is no perfect man or society. But how and what you do that affect others is the real story. For me when diplomatic fails they result to force, killing that is the picture of Caliphates.
You can laugh enough but it cannot change the truth.
If the South grew up with bad teachings like the North especially among some Muslims you think there will be Nigeria by now? Or If the Fulani-Hausa-Muslims are the ones been killed daily like what is happening in the North you don't think Nigeria would have been another Syria? Sometime, I wish we are taught the same thing they teaches in the North in Church. The bad teaching/orientation must STOP among Caliphates followers for peace to avail. There is nothing hatred here I have peaceful Muslims as friend too.

Thanks be to God.

budaatum:
So, you have Muslim friends. If so, I am certain you don't go about your day believing your Muslims friends want to convert or kill you. Do you however really believe more Christians are being killed in the North than Muslims? Do you believe those killing people in the North are Muslims? You seem to not think so, since you are guarded enough to claim, it is a consequence of "bad teachings ...... especially among some Muslims". So why tarnish them all with a boko haram brush? Don't you think that an evil doer has won if that is your thinking?

Take Syria, a predominantly Islamic nation, which as you appear to know, is in a state of war with quite a lot of killings. Do you agree that it's of Muslims, and by Muslims? When that conflict began, the west (mostly America and UK) wanted to harm the rebels and help them fight the Assad regime. Its taken them years to quite understand that the rebels they wanted to harm are actually ISIS, the equivalent of boko haram. But their blindness didn't let them see this, so your confusion hardly surprises me.

All that notwithstanding, from your holy book, the standard set for you seems to be way above your level. Either that, or the person who asked you to turn the other cheek lived in cuckoo land and knows not what he's dealing with or was talking about. The question then is, why do you claim to believe in him? Or is it the case that in believing in him, you need not do his will?

"How and what you do that affect others is the real story." What one think in one's head is a large part of that "story" as that is what motivates what one does. After all, out of the abundance of one's heart does one speak. I can hardly say that what I understand from some of the opinions expressed on here has anything to do with the Christianity that I know of, nor does the description of Islam sound anything like the Islam I know of.

You should go read similar thoughts expressed about Christianity by we atheists, especially the ignorant one's amongst us. I'm sure you would notice when we misdescribe what Christianity is and is about. And I'm certain, the word "fool" best describes those amongst us who talk such nonsense. Some might want to guide against being those fools too perhaps, and take your advise to stop the "bad teaching/orientation", instead of joining the ignorants and the stupids on either sides. I just can't say I read anywhere that the kingdom of any god whatsoever belongs to the warmongers. It's more likely such likes are the damned, as opposed to the blessed.

Thanks be to God.

enilove:
Is Islam not enemy of Christianity ?

Can you pray for Islam , whose agenda is to kill Christianity and force your children to serve Satan?

When your enemy is blessed. he will not leave you alone neither will he help you but will oppress you till you die.

if you don't change your ways you are doomed, hell fire is your abode, Jesus Christ was never a Christian when he was alive, maybe you can show me where Jesus said I am a Christian worship me, but it is confirmed in the Holy Quran where Jesus proclaimed Islam to be His religion.

WHERE IS LEAH SHUAB ? That is the work of an enemy.

Satan is the god of Islam who has succeeded in caging all the Muslims and is using them to fight the Christians world wide.

Our real enemy is Satan and his agents of darkness , you have to pray against them and spoil their plans.

Why did Jesus not pray for Judas Iscariot but cursed him ?
Why did Jesus pray for Peter and not Judas?

Matthew 26:21-24 KJV
And as they did eat, he said, Verily I say unto you, that one of you shall betray me.
[22] And they were exceeding sorrowful, and began every one of them to say unto him, Lord, is it I?
[23] And he answered and said, He that dippeth his hand with me in the dish, the same shall betray me.
[24] The Son of man goeth as it is written of him: but WOE unto that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! it had been good for that man if he had not been born.

enilove:
Is Islam not enemy of Christianity ?

Can you pray for Islam , whose agenda is to kill Christianity and force your children to serve Satan?

When your enemy is blessed. he will not leave you alone neither will he help you but will oppress you till you die.

WHERE IS LEAH SHUAB ? That is the work of an enemy.

Satan is the god of Islam who has succeeded in caging all the Muslims and is using them to fight the Christians world wide.

Our real enemy is Satan and his agents of darkness , you have to pray against them and spoil their plans.

Why did Jesus not pray for Judas Iscariot but cursed him ?
Why did Jesus pray for Peter and not Judas?

Matthew 26:21-24 KJV
And as they did eat, he said, Verily I say unto you, that one of you shall betray me.
[22] And they were exceeding sorrowful, and began every one of them to say unto him, Lord, is it I?
[23] And he answered and said, He that dippeth his hand with me in the dish, the same shall betray me.
[24] The Son of man goeth as it is written of him: but WOE unto that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! it had been good for that man if he had not been born.

ollah2:
I laugh when I read this nonsense. Muslims are devils and they worship Satan while Christians are saints and they worship God.


How many people has that Satan destroyed?
How many people has God destroyed?

God destroyed from old testament to new testament to the real world and till date, he still destroys yet Satan is the devil and God is as clean as fvck.


You sir and your ilks are far from doing justice to your brains