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| Is The Belief In God And Science Mutually Exclusive? by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:56am On Jul 31, 2018 |
Is the belief in God and Science mutually exclusive? 1 Share
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| Re: Is The Belief In God And Science Mutually Exclusive? by MrBrownJay1(m): 2:29am On Jul 31, 2018 |
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| Re: Is The Belief In God And Science Mutually Exclusive? by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:03am On Jul 31, 2018 |
MrBrownJay1: Why wouldn't or couldn't you answer the OP?  |
| Re: Is The Belief In God And Science Mutually Exclusive? by Nobody: 3:59am On Jul 31, 2018 |
No, rather it gives true meaning to science 1 Like |
| Re: Is The Belief In God And Science Mutually Exclusive? by MrBrownJay1(m): 6:18am On Jul 31, 2018 |
OLAADEGBU: sadly i like to discuss with people who come up with facts and and give sane answers, not BS fictions/superstition and deluded fables in the sky that are written in a book (with no concrete foundation whatsoever) 4 Likes |
| Re: Is The Belief In God And Science Mutually Exclusive? by eventtinz(m): 1:12pm On Jul 31, 2018 |
"Albeit it does move" these where the words of italian polymath Gallilio Galilei when he was forced by the church to recant is claims that the earth moves around the immovable sun.Religion will always be ignorant and will do anything to stick to its lies.Theist will continue to deny facts as long as it is against their favorite book. 3 Likes |
| Re: Is The Belief In God And Science Mutually Exclusive? by Heathen777(m): 12:22am On Aug 01, 2018 |
Science doesn't need God, because science has no use of divine agents, as said by the great astronomer and physicist Pierre Simon de Laplace, who wrote the "Celestial Mechanics". Napoleon Bonaparte asked why he did not mention God in his book. Laplace replied “I have no need of that hypothesis.” 2 Likes |
| Re: Is The Belief In God And Science Mutually Exclusive? by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:52am On Aug 08, 2018 |
MrBrownJay1: The truth is that you neither practice science nor believe in the Creator God. What you seek is to continue in your sinful lifestyle. 4 Likes 1 Share
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| Re: Is The Belief In God And Science Mutually Exclusive? by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:57am On Aug 08, 2018 |
eventtinz: Stop confusing what traditional religion and Christianity stand for. They are apples and oranges. True science confirms the Bible. 2 Likes
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| Re: Is The Belief In God And Science Mutually Exclusive? by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:01am On Aug 08, 2018 |
Heathen777: It is convenient to say what you are saying as long as you don't have to think about where everything came from. 1 Like
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| Re: Is The Belief In God And Science Mutually Exclusive? by Earthkumy(m): 5:15am On Aug 08, 2018 |
MrBrownJay1: This is actually how we react
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| Re: Is The Belief In God And Science Mutually Exclusive? by MrBrownJay1(m): 7:12am On Aug 08, 2018 |
OLAADEGBU: the fact that you believe that a person who does NOT believe in your god is automatically a "sinner" further shows us what a narrow state of mind you lot have. Science has absolutely NOTHING to do with whatever you call "sin", unless of course you want to tell me that there is something scientifically wrong with a man who doesnt believe in your god. 4 Likes |
| Re: Is The Belief In God And Science Mutually Exclusive? by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:38pm On Aug 08, 2018 |
MrBrownJay1: There is only One God and Creator of all things. Any scientist worth its salt will want to know where everything came from and that is what is called presupposition. If you believe everything comes from nothing I don't see how that makes any logical, reasonable or scientific sense. 2 Likes |
| Re: Is The Belief In God And Science Mutually Exclusive? by MrBrownJay1(m): 12:16am On Aug 09, 2018 |
OLAADEGBU: ARRANT NONSENSE!!!! yes there is only one god and his name is HARRY POTTER. do you have ANY PROOF WHATSOEVER that everything didnt in fact come from Harry Potter, or better yet it was Homer Simpson who created the world?! 4 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Is The Belief In God And Science Mutually Exclusive? by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:09am On Aug 10, 2018 |
MrBrownJay1: If you are claiming that this is where everything came from then the onus is on you to prove it.  1 Like |
| Re: Is The Belief In God And Science Mutually Exclusive? by MrBrownJay1(m): 12:49am On Aug 13, 2018 |
OLAADEGBU: AHAHAHAHA funny lot!!! what proof did you bring that the god (in your head) created the earth, if not hearsay?! ARRANT NONSENSE! just as you brought NO SINGLE PROOF WHATSOEVER about your god, is the same way i shouldnt need any about mine (aka Harry Potter), duh! 1 Like |
| Re: Is The Belief In God And Science Mutually Exclusive? by dalaman: 3:09am On Aug 13, 2018 |
OLAADEGBU: Where is your evidence to show that Yahweh alone created the universe? Where is the you shameless liar and myth believer. |
| Re: Is The Belief In God And Science Mutually Exclusive? by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:23pm On Aug 13, 2018 |
MrBrownJay1: When I look at a building, how do I know that there was a builder? I can't see him, hear him, touch, taste, or smell him. Of course, the building is proof that there was a builder. In fact, I couldn't want better evidence that there was a builder than to have the building in front of me. I don't need "faith" to know that there was a builder. All I need is eyes that can see and a brain that works. Likewise, when I look at a painting, how can I know that there was a painter? Again, the painting is proof positive that there was a painter. I don’t need "faith" to believe in a painter because I can see the clear evidence. The same principle applies with the existence of God. When I look at creation, how can I know that the Creator exists? I can't see Him, hear Him, touch Him, taste Him, or smell Him. How can I know that He exists? Why, creation shows me His existence. I couldn't want better proof that God exists than to have the creation in front of me. I don’t need faith to believe in a Creator; all I need is eyes that can see and a brain that works: "For the invisible things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse" (Romans 1:20). If, however, I want the builder to do something for me, then I need to have faith in him. The same applies to God: "Without faith it is impossible to please Him: for he that comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him” (Hebrews 11:6). You have your 5 senses to know He exists but you need faith if you are to have fellowship with Him. Watch "Evolution Vs God" -> www.evolutionvsGod.com |
| Re: Is The Belief In God And Science Mutually Exclusive? by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:34pm On Aug 13, 2018 |
dalaman: Here is my evidence. Where did the universe come from? There are only three possibilities from where the universe can come from. By way of elimination, we will arrive at the scientific evidence of the origin of the universe which took just 6 days. (1). The universe created itself; or (2). The universe has always existed, or (3). The universe was created. 1. The universe created itself: Can something create itself? Can nothing create something? The answer to these is an absolute No. We all know that something cannot create itself and nothing can't create something. From Latin we have the phrase "ex nihilo, nihil fit" meaning "from nothing, nothing comes." It also violates the law of cause and effect, that says for every effect there must be a cause. The effect can't be greater than the cause and nothing cannot be greater than something. Therefore, based on the laws of science and logic, the universe couldn't have created itself. That leaves us with options 2 and 3. 2. The univese has always existed: Lets go to the 2nd law of thermodynamics that basically teaches that "the whole universe is losing usable energy for doing usable work." This means that the usable energy in this universe is wearing down. The universe as a whole is losing energy. In other words, molecules as a whole are slowing down. Therefore, if this universe was eternal we will be in what is called a "virtual heat death." This means that there will be virtually no molecular movement. Everything would have lost its available heat energy for doing work. Therefore, the universe cannot be eternal, it must have had a beginning. The theory that the universe has always existed or is eternal has to be false based on the law of science and logic, another speculation gone with the air. This leaves us with only one possibility based on science. Which is that: 3. The universe was created: "In the Beginning God created the heaven and the earth." -- Genesis 1:1 Science confirms the biblical verse that in the beginning God created the heaven and the earth as we have just shown. With this verse we see that God is outside time. He is eternal, with no beginning or end. He also knows all things, being infinitely intelligent. To recognise His handiwork, you should be able to know how to recognise the evidence of the works of His intelligence. This is simple. When I look at a painting, how do I know that there was a painter? I can't see him, hear him, touch, smell or taste him. The evidence of a painter is the painting I'm looking at. In other words, the painting is the proof positive that there was a painter. The painting is the product of the intelligence of the painter. Living things are also evidence of design. Wouldn't it be logical to assume that if man's highly intelligent brain designed the computer, then the human brain was also the product of design? There is nothing illogical or unscientific about an Eternal Being who has always existed. Nobody created the infinite God. He is the Self-Existent One, the great "I AM THAT I AM" of the Bible. He is outside time because He created time. Everything that has a beginning requires a cause. The universe has a beginning and thus requires a cause. But the almighty God has no beginning since He is beyond time. Therefore, the Almighty God does not need a cause. That is the evidence that Yahweh alone created the universe. 1 Like |
| Re: Is The Belief In God And Science Mutually Exclusive? by MrBrownJay1(m): 2:50pm On Aug 13, 2018 |
OLAADEGBU: i could say the exact same above rubbish about HARRY POTTER....bring concrete facts to this discussion or be quiet and accept that your "god" is as baseless as any of the "gods" worshipped out there...eledumare, buddah, vishnu or good ol' Harry Potter. |
| Re: Is The Belief In God And Science Mutually Exclusive? by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:41pm On Aug 13, 2018 |
MrBrownJay1: Do you have a brain, if yes, is it intelligently designed? and if you still say yes, was it 'intelligently' designed by Harry Potter? 1 Like |
| Re: Is The Belief In God And Science Mutually Exclusive? by MrBrownJay1(m): 3:44pm On Aug 13, 2018 |
OLAADEGBU: YES, YES and YES AGAIN..... unless you have any proof to the contrary. |
| Re: Is The Belief In God And Science Mutually Exclusive? by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:57pm On Aug 13, 2018 |
MrBrownJay1: Prove to me that Harry Potter 'intelligently' designed your brain. 1 Like |
| Re: Is The Belief In God And Science Mutually Exclusive? by MrBrownJay1(m): 4:30pm On Aug 13, 2018 |
OLAADEGBU: ARRANT NONSENSE!!! if you CANT prove to me that "your"god created heaven and earth, but yet its your damn beliefs and you stand by that, then why dont you use this exact same deluded way of thinking and use it for Harry Potter?!?! you religious people are the biggest hypocrites.... you bring absolutely NO PROOF WHATSOEVER about your almighty "god", and always ask us to prove otherwise, but now that i am telling you about Harry potter, you are telling me i should prove "to you" that it is real?!?!?! which concrete proof did you ever bring to this discussion about your god, but brainwashed beliefs from your holy book?! [img]https://media1./images/1612e5f2555c94351fd3bfce2fac51f9/tenor.gif[/img] 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Is The Belief In God And Science Mutually Exclusive? by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:43pm On Aug 13, 2018 |
MrBrownJay1: I have already given proof above unless you didn't, wouldn't or couldn't see it. I know that the reason you don't hate Harry Potter is because you know that it doesn't exist. It is impossible to hate something that does not exist. You hate Yahweh because He exists. 1 Like |
| Re: Is The Belief In God And Science Mutually Exclusive? by MrBrownJay1(m): 4:49pm On Aug 13, 2018 |
OLAADEGBU: proof?!?!?!?! why/were/when?! abeg, you are talking to an intelligent person here and not some gullible donkey desperate for miracles in the sky... so the day you have any concrete proof that your invisible "god in the sky" exists and it aint Harry Potter, then holla at me... until then, i suggest you educate yourself on what concrete proof means. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Is The Belief In God And Science Mutually Exclusive? by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:39pm On Aug 14, 2018 |
MrBrownJay1: If the evidence I gave you is not enough then check out the one I gave dalaman. You are yet to give me your evidence of a 'Harry Potter' if there is one. If you have no evidence then it will be better for you to forever hold your horses. 1 Like |
| Re: Is The Belief In God And Science Mutually Exclusive? by MrBrownJay1(m): 5:53pm On Aug 14, 2018 |
OLAADEGBU: ahahahaha...its called BEATING YOU AT YOUR OWN DAMN GAME.... you see, when i ask any of you deluded proof of your god, you have NONE WHATSOEVER, and come up with nonsense upon nonsense, and instead ask us to prove to you lot that he doesnt exist.....so i am using the exact same deluded deduction by saying that you should give me any proof that that god of yours is not in fact Harry Potter. duh! the day you come up with any TANGIBLE proof of your god, not fables in the sky and deluded nonsense, then we can start this convo, until then, keep being brainwashed with your holy book. |
| Re: Is The Belief In God And Science Mutually Exclusive? by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:14pm On Aug 14, 2018 |
MrBrownJay1: You have no argument.
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| Re: Is The Belief In God And Science Mutually Exclusive? by MrBrownJay1(m): 7:27pm On Aug 14, 2018 |
OLAADEGBU: 1 Like 1 Share
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| Re: Is The Belief In God And Science Mutually Exclusive? by Nobody: 7:30pm On Aug 14, 2018 |
I think they are mutually exclusive, I can give you proof from the Bible that the earth wasn't actually created in a day. |
| Re: Is The Belief In God And Science Mutually Exclusive? by OLAADEGBU(m): 8:02pm On Aug 14, 2018 |
nwabekeyi: The universe was created in 6 days. "In the Beginning God created the heaven and the earth." Check out the scientific evidence in my post to dalaman. |
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