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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 2:13pm On Aug 23, 2018
Onboard an NN vessel

Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by allexpensive: 6:24pm On Aug 23, 2018
Since you guys seems to know much about intelligence here. May I know your opinion towards the president's close protection.

Watching through the news highlights, I observed several civilians moving close to him with his security details having an extreme time containing the crowd.

This is something usual among our leaders in Nigeria in a bid to get closer to the masses but I have a negative feeling concerning its security risks.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by ocelot2006(m): 7:37pm On Aug 23, 2018
unknown87:
More like DIA operatives. All service chiefs have them
I highly doubt that. Probably NAF Regiment personnel.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody:
allexpensive:
Since you guys seems to know much about intelligence here. May I know your opinion towards the president's close protection.

Watching through the news highlights, I observed several civilians moving close to him with his security details having an extreme time containing the crowd.

This is something usual among our leaders in Nigeria in a bid to get closer to the masses but I have a negative feeling concerning its security risks.
Lol grin
Not a chance somebody gonna do some significant shiit there sir... Check the video and pics again and see the layers and layers of security.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 8:32pm On Aug 23, 2018
NA operative with his AKMS rifle

Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 9:30pm On Aug 23, 2018
abiodunalasa:
NA operative with his AKMS rifle
Operative? Its colloquially used for agents of Intel agencies

Operator is used for SF
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 9:39pm On Aug 23, 2018
allexpensive:
Since you guys seems to know much about intelligence here. May I know your opinion towards the president's close protection.

Watching through the news highlights, I observed several civilians moving close to him with his security details having an extreme time containing the crowd.

This is something usual among our leaders in Nigeria in a bid to get closer to the masses but I have a negative feeling concerning its security risks.
Close protection detail usually classify areas of visitation based on risk assessment, but with politicians, too much security is not enough security. There's only so much the detail can do in open air visitations
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by ugo4u: 12:29am On Aug 24, 2018
Watched the video of the 4 American soldiers ambushed in Mali as retrieved from their bodycams. You could see the immediate tactical positioning by the soldiers and returning of fire but sadly they were overpowered, no thanks to the environment. Desert warfare is one of the most technical and challenging terrain to fight on. In that video one of the soldiers was desperately looking for a cover but there was non except for their non-armoured aka light skinned vehicle.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii(op): 6:55am On Aug 24, 2018
NAF & NA personnels with president and commander in chief of the armed forces of Liberia ; HE Dr. George M. Weah

Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii(op): 6:58am On Aug 24, 2018
ugo4u:
Watched the video of the 4 American soldiers ambushed in Mali as retrieved from their bodycams. You could see the immediate tactical positioning by the soldiers and returning of fire but sadly they were overpowered, no thanks to the environment. Desert warfare is one of the most technical and challenging terrain to fight on. In that video one of the soldiers was desperately looking for a cover but there was non except for their non-armoured aka light skinned vehicle.
War is never fear .... cool
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii(op): 7:03am On Aug 24, 2018
allexpensive:
Since you guys seems to know much about intelligence here. May I know your opinion towards the president's close protection.

Watching through the news highlights, I observed several civilians moving close to him with his security details having an extreme time containing the crowd.

This is something usual among our leaders in Nigeria in a bid to get closer to the masses but I have a negative feeling concerning its security risks.
Not only in Nigeria, have seen a lot of politicians in western & European countries getting close to civilians/crowd's. They usually do these when it is close to election time, especially when they contesting for the 2nd time. ... grin

In my own opinion it's dangerous but it's a risk they take once in a while.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii(op): 7:04am On Aug 24, 2018
jakeporeshenko:
Onboard an NN vessel
What's going on here ... wink huh
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 7:16am On Aug 24, 2018
bidexiii:
NAF & NA personnels with president and commander in chief of the armed forces of Liberia ; HE Dr. George M. Weah
They aren’t NAF bro they are Liberians trained by NAF
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by peterphd(m): 7:41am On Aug 24, 2018
bidexiii:
NAF & NA personnels with president and commander in chief of the armed forces of Liberia ; HE Dr. George M. Weah
NAF and NA? Those guys have Liberian flag patches.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii(op): 8:07am On Aug 24, 2018
jakeporeshenko:
They aren’t NAF bro they are Liberians trained by NAF
Just noticed shocked huh
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii(op): 8:08am On Aug 24, 2018
EID-EL-KABIR CELEBRATION WITH TROOPS

The representative of the Chief of Army Staff Lieutenant General Tukur Yusufu Buratai, Major General Ikechukwu Okeke - Commander Medical Corps, the General Officer Commanding 7 Division, Nigerian Army Brigadier General Abdulmalik Bulama Biu, Commanders and Principal Staff Officers of 7 Division at Eid-El-Kabir Sit Out with Sick and Wounded in Action Soldiers at 7 Division Medical Services and Hospital, Maimalari Cantonment, Maiduguri.

Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii(op): 8:09am On Aug 24, 2018
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii(op): 8:10am On Aug 24, 2018
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by joshingjosh(m): 8:38am On Aug 24, 2018
Make una no vex...make person clear me on this


In that us military video, they said they have a SF base. That is controlled by an SF major. Like in an Indian parasf video that I watched, the officer was striped of his rank before participating in the training

Does this means that the officer after the SF training becomes an operative with his rank as an officer or what... infact what happens to an officer that undergoes an SF training
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii(op): 8:47am On Aug 24, 2018
joshingjosh:
Make una no vex...make person clear me on this


In that us military video, they said they have a SF base. That is controlled by an SF major. Like in an Indian parasf video that I watched, the officer was striped of his rank before participating in the training

Does this means that the officer after the SF training becomes an operative with his rank as an officer or what... infact what happens to an officer that undergoes an SF training
I think the striping off your rank as an officer is only valid during such SF training. After the training your rank will be restored.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii(op): 8:49am On Aug 24, 2018
#RANDOM

Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kikuyu1(m): 9:46am On Aug 24, 2018
kikuyu1:
Allexpensive,you have real operational knowledge and experience. Tell me;if you were in charge of procurement and all authority-to-incur-expenditure was in your hands. What would you go for? What platforms and/or gear would you chose? Assume a budget of 1.5bn$ and a 2 year procurement process.

This link is best for sources as it even includes maintenance cost,smth unknown to nairaland experts .
http://nationsdawnofanera.weebly.com/-helicopters.html


EG,and has AFVs,transport,patrol boats,jets etc ,etc. Here's some examples:

COST ANNUAL UPKEEP
MI 35 16 MN 5 MN

AFVs

RG 41 2.5 MN 0.3 MN

BMP 3 5.75 0.65 MN

Allow for 2 year maintenance for all and any platforms you chose. Have at it!
Anything yet? Imo,this is important as nairalanders need to understand the tactical demands of weapons acquisitions,ie needs vs wants AND THE CRITICAL BUDGET ASPECT. Fyi,4 or 5 years back KAF guys were in Russia srsly looking at some low hour Sues and/or Mig 29s, IIRC. They were told:"you have Probox money and want a VX!?"
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by allexpensive: 3:03pm On Aug 24, 2018
kikuyu1:
Anything yet? Imo,this is important as nairalanders need to understand the tactical demands of weapons acquisitions,ie needs vs wants AND THE CRITICAL BUDGET ASPECT. Fyi,4 or 5 years back KAF guys were in Russia srsly looking at some low hour Sues and/or Mig 29s, IIRC. They were told:"you have Probox money and want a VX!?"
Sorry, I am just seeing this. I will respond after today's activities.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by BlackBaron: 6:27pm On Aug 24, 2018
Merkel in Nigeria next week. Hopefully we can sneak in few discussions about military relations and maybe hardwares.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by LTGEN: 6:45pm On Aug 24, 2018
BlackBaron:
Merkel in Nigeria next week. Hopefully we can sneak in few discussions about military relations and maybe hardwares.
This will be Chancellor Merkel's first visit to Nigeria.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 6:51pm On Aug 24, 2018
BlackBaron:
Merkel in Nigeria next week. Hopefully we can sneak in few discussions about military relations and maybe hardwares.
grin grin grin ...... Tell me you're being funny?

It is embarrassing why she actually visiting Nigeria and West-Africa.

"Angela Merkel who will be accompanied by an economic delegation, will be discussing migration politics and her campaign to tackle the causes resulting in a stream of refugees to Europe during her visit to the West African countries."

Hardware from where?


We really need to stop wishing for things in the military threads. For those of us who have been following the military for the past few years now, constantly making wasteful wishes won't take us anywhere.

The last military hardware we got from Germany were 6 units of Nigerian made gunboats.

The last time Nigeria bought hardware from Germany is more than 30 years ago.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by BlackBaron: 7:44pm On Aug 24, 2018
Henry240:
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All well and good. Didn't read the full report about 'economic delegation'. 30 years ago, Nigeria was more or less a pariah due to military ruler so we were conveniently shunned by most. Until The Tucanos, Uncle Sam only passed us 'defanged' mostly sea going hardware (due to piracy which affected American interests).

Germany is under an influx of immigrants amongst which are Nigerians who conveniently apply the BH narrative to get a stay. Apart from seeking increased economic potentials from the government for Nigerian youths, it falls into the sphere of security for the ones abroad in Germany who don't want to come back.

She is under immense pressure from her party and country to sort out the influx especially as they were the most open country in the last few years to take the bulk of the immigrants into Europe.

Hardware from Germany doesnt mean guns and arty. We can do with decommissioned but useful bits such as IFV, or any initiative from Germany's expolits in Afghanistan.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 10:17am On Aug 25, 2018
Where is that lying son of man who said Police in New York wears rag tag uniform and have sex in public on Police Patrol vehicles !

[b]The Inspector-General of Police, Mr .Ibrahim Idris, has ordered members of the Special Anti-Robbery. Squad to wear police uniforms with full identification, pending the launch of new FSARS uniform.The force Spokesman, Acting Deputy Commissioner of Police, Jimoh Moshood, who indicated this in a statement in Abuja on Friday, said Idris gave the order at a meeting with critical stakeholders, News Agency of Nigeria reported. Moshood said that Idris was represented by the Deputy Inspector-General of police in Charge of Operations, Mr. Habila Joshak. He said that the meeting was convened to brief the stakeholders on the progress made so far in the overhaul of the SARS, now known as Federal SARS. The Police boss said that the overhaul of SARS was beyond rhetoric as strategic reforms were being implemented. He said that the FSARS operatives had been ordered to desist from attending to civil or commercial matters henceforth and focus strictly on armed robbery and kidnapping cases only. According to Moshood, the Commissioner of Police in charge of FSARS, Mr. Habiru Gwandu, informed the meeting that a human rights desk had been created in the 36 states of the federation and FCT. He said that the desks would address cases of infractions against members of the public by FSARS personnel across the nation. Gwandu added that the Police had engaged the services of psychologists and counsellors in the ongoing screening of FSARS operatives. On his part, the DCP in charge of the I-G’s X-Squad, Amaechi Elumelu, said in the statement that the screening and mobilisation of FSARS oeratives would not be business as usual again. He said that FSARS operatives would undergo thorough rigorous orientation including human rights training among other screening processes. Elumelu said that the IG would soon unveil the Custody Records Management System. He explained that this system would contain the records of arrests, detentions and welfare details of suspects.
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https://www.google.com.ng/amp/s/punchng.com/ig-orders-sars-operatives-to-wear-uniform-for-identification/amp/
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 10:26am On Aug 25, 2018
abiodunalasa:
[]The Inspector-General of Police, Mr .Ibrahim Idris, has ordered members of the Special Anti-Robbery. Squad to wear police uniforms with full identification, pending the launch of new FSARS uniform.The force Spokesman, Acting Deputy Commissioner of Police, Jimoh Moshood, who indicated this in a statement in Abuja on Friday, said Idris gave the order at a meeting with critical stakeholders, News Agency of Nigeria reported. Moshood said that Idris was represented by the Deputy Inspector-General of police in Charge of Operations, Mr. Habila Joshak. He said that the meeting was convened to brief the stakeholders on the progress made so far in the overhaul of the SARS, now known as Federal SARS. The Police boss said that the overhaul of SARS was beyond rhetoric as strategic reforms were being implemented. He said that the FSARS operatives had been ordered to desist from attending to civil or commercial matters henceforth and focus strictly on armed robbery and kidnapping cases only. According to Moshood, the Commissioner of Police in charge of FSARS, Mr. Habiru Gwandu, informed the meeting that a human rights desk had been created in the 36 states of the federation and FCT. He said that the desks would address cases of infractions against members of the public by FSARS personnel across the nation. Gwandu added that the Police had engaged the services of psychologists and counsellors in the ongoing screening of FSARS operatives. On his part, the DCP in charge of the I-G’s X-Squad, Amaechi Elumelu, said in the statement that the screening and mobilisation of FSARS oeratives would not be business as usual again. He said that FSARS operatives would undergo thorough rigorous orientation including human rights training among other screening processes. Elumelu said that the IG would soon unveil the Custody Records Management System. He explained that this system would contain the records of arrests, detentions and welfare details of suspects.

https://www.google.com.ng/amp/s/punchng.com/ig-orders-sars-operatives-to-wear-uniform-for-identification/amp/
Sizzorkay
You said it is okay for a civilized Police to dress any how without identification.
Well, our NPF think otherwise. wink

Now u can shove ur fake NewYork rag tag dressing Police up ur ass grin grin
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 10:45am On Aug 25, 2018
BlackBaron:
All well and good. Didn't read the full report about 'economic delegation'. 30 years ago, Nigeria was more or less a pariah due to military ruler so we were conveniently shunned by most. Until The Tucanos, Uncle Sam only passed us 'defanged' mostly sea going hardware (due to piracy which affected American interests).

Germany is under an influx of immigrants amongst which are Nigerians who conveniently apply the BH narrative to get a stay. Apart from seeking increased economic potentials from the government for Nigerian youths, it falls into the sphere of security for the ones abroad in Germany who don't want to come back.

She is under immense pressure from her party and country to sort out the influx especially as they were the most open country in the last few years to take the bulk of the immigrants into Europe.

Hardware from Germany doesnt mean guns and arty. We can do with decommissioned but useful bits such as IFV, or any initiative from Germany's expolits in Afghanistan.
Tucanos were approved for Nigeria before Obama halted the sale because of the Air Force air strike in the IDP camp in Rann.

The sale of the Tucano is in the same class as the transfer of Cutters to the Nigerian navy or the transfer of MRAPs to the army.

They do not represent any leap in capability for the Nigerian military, but rather seek to secure American interest in Nigeria without representing any threat to America or her allies in the region.

The US will never sell F-16s to Nigeria, because any such sale will represent a threat to French interests in West-Africa.

You are telling us that a decommissioned IFV doesn't represent guns?


The only meaningful hardware we've gotten from Germany in the last 35 years are 6 units of Epenal Gunboats. We have been a steady democracy for nearly 20 of the 35 years.

So how is it that we would now be wishing for IFVs and other military hardware from them? In fact we are even more likely to get decommissioned IFVs from France than Germany.

http://nigerianewsday.com/2018/03/14/germany-donates-5-gun-boats-to-navy
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 10:45am On Aug 25, 2018
Look at the first 2pics with respectable SARS Officers. Well dressed and well kitted as a law enforcement agents.

Now look at the last 2pics of some illiterates who luckily find themselves in our honorable NPF... Dressing like true illiterates and ruffians that they are!
I won't blame them... they got the job thru "MAN-KNOW-MAN" and not by merit!

But thanks to the NPF handlers who have come to nip such nonsense in the bud.

NPF will be great again !!! cool

Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by BlackBaron: 12:45pm On Aug 25, 2018
Henry240:
Tucanos were approved for Nigeria before Obama halted the sale because of the Air Force air strike in the IDP camp in Rann.

The sale of the Tucano is in the same class as the transfer of Cutters to the Nigerian navy or the transfer of MRAPs to the army.

They do not represent any leap in capability for the Nigerian military, but rather seek to secure American interest in Nigeria without representing any threat to America or her allies in the region.

The US will never sell F-16s to Nigeria, because any such sale will represent a threat to French interests in West-Africa.

You are telling us that a decommissioned IFV doesn't represent guns?


The only meaningful hardware we've gotten from Germany in the last 35 years are 6 units of Epenal Gunboats. We have been a steady democracy for nearly 20 of the 35 years.

So how is it that we would now be wishing for IFVs and other military hardware from them? In fact we are even more likely to get decommissioned IFVs from France than Germany.

http://nigerianewsday.com/2018/03/14/germany-donates-5-gun-boats-to-navy
You're contradicting yourself in the same post. Tucanos got blocked but cutters got passed. Most transfers until recent were defanged hardwares. No one is also asking for F16, no need to elevate the discussion to a level I have not stated.

Clearly we have different definitions of steady. ND, Boko haram, IPOB.
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