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AreaFada2:
How would the number of visitors needed to sustain such a big project have been attracted? No rail, no proper roads or close air link?
Duke had 8 years in office. If you cannot complete such a project, do not start it. Because the next governor might consider it as a luxury project. It's not health, education or infrastructure. State governors have certain critical areas to focus on, considering limited funds. It would have created jobs of course, but still not critical sector as at then.

Duke could have conceptualized it on a smaller scale, completed it and got it going before leaving office. Continuity of elaborate non-essential projects is not guaranteed by successors.

That most of our leaders are not fit to be class monitors is no secret. That is why the better ones like Duke & Fashola must know to complete what they started.

The man who cancelled Lagos metro as head of state/dictator 35 years ago is ruling ago today in Abuja. Lagos has got bigger now, more congested and cost of projects much higher today. Lagos struggling to make headway with light railway now. Since nearly 8 to 10 years.

Lagos is long overdue in having an underground metro system .if they keep ignoring this then the traffic system over there will forever be a nightmare if not worse in later years.

When you buy anything from that place and get to the exit gate na so Nigerian customs go grab you and your load.... Begin speak grammar. I was so peace of when I got a table from them and couldn't get it out. We had to go back to tinapa, where they met the people and talks continued for over one hour.


Abeg I no do again

What has the purchasing power of indigenes have to do with tourism? The indigenes provide a service outsiders require and the outsiders pay for this service, that's the abc of tourism.

The idea of tinapa was to create a serene business environment combined with leasure, doing this only takes creative thinking.

The best thing is to put a seaport in cross river to make it viable.

Calabar has disadvantage of being disconnected from other parts of Nigeria for more than a decade. A search on my earlier contribution with regards to Tinapa says it all. I wrote this in 2009 and 9 years later there's still no road to Calabar.

Abagworo:
Nigeria is a funny country.how can tinapa work without access roads?good dualised highways must link aba and port harcourt to calabar.that's the only factor holding tinapa.anyone who has been to calabar will accept that it is the most beautiful city in nigeria but one glaring thing is the state of the narrow highway linking it to other major cities.

https://www.nairaland.com/261067/nobody-goes-nigeria-biggest-white

If we want Tinapa to work, there must be good expressways from Aba to Calabar and Port-Harcourt to Calabar in the short term. In the long term highspeed rail linking different parts of the country will make it more accessible.

Ayadesim,Shaku Shaku master,former Shoki star
...Tinapa University Abi.?

AreaFada2:
How would the number of visitors needed to sustain such a big project have been attracted? No rail, no proper roads or close air link?
Duke had 8 years in office. If you cannot complete such a project, do not start it. Because the next governor might consider it as a luxury project. It's not health, education or infrastructure. State governors have certain critical areas to focus on, considering limited funds. It would have created jobs of course, but still not critical sector as at then.

Duke could have conceptualized it on a smaller scale, completed it and got it going before leaving office. Continuity of elaborate non-essential projects is not guaranteed by successors.

That most of our leaders are not fit to be class monitors is no secret. That is why the better ones like Duke & Fashola must know to complete what they started.

The man who cancelled Lagos metro as head of state/dictator 35 years ago is ruling ago today in Abuja. Lagos has got bigger now, more congested and cost of projects much higher today. Lagos struggling to make headway with light railway now. Since nearly 8 to 10 years.

obudu is said 2b 5hours away from calabar d state capital but it recorded very high patronage from visitors within &outside d country during d duke era. Which road, rail and airlink was used 2 cater 4 visitors then? If people could b transported 2 obudu, y would it b a problem 2 transport people within calabar? Or do u need plane 2 fly inside calabar?
Duke completed tinapa on schedule but I still don't understand what u mean by him not completing d project. Duke did 90% of d work 4 his successors. If there were other things lacking 2 sustain d initiative, what would it have cost them 2 put them in place even if it meant trying to pull strings at d federal level? Like u said, most of our governors aren't even fit 2b class prefects. So d project failed not cos d vision was 2 big or lack or road or airport, but due 2 their incompetence. For instance, d present governor can't even keep calabar clean as b4. What should it take him to do that?

The worst governor in Nigeria. .....no vision. He should remove the professor from his name. What shame.

lastempero:
The most unrealistic governor of our century. Professor of what,someone should remind me.

lefulefu:
Research university?...i laugh. Does nigeria have the capability to reasearch anything? Look at the reseach institute in NAIFOR in benin.its completely dead. Place ads on CNN and other foreign networks so more ppl outside the country will know more of TINAPA. Or are u saying u dont have money to place ads on CNN? Tinapa has the capability to become nigeria's disney land.no go establish one white elephant project and dey call am university of research.

You don't mean it? I thought Presco and Okomu patronise their research findings frequently? Tell me it's a lie.

As for Ayade, I've always known him to be a cretinous and moronic fvcktard. Is he not the one who passed an incoherent budget of "crystallisation" that had 1,100 SAs and PAs appointed?

Dude is a cretin!

When you think you have seen it all in Nigeria then the record is broken.

Pls dnt be stupid sir

PurplePatch:
If the FG government will allow a seaport in Calabar then it will work. If not that is exactly the result starring us in the face.



I'll be back with more contributions.

exactly! same thoughts on my mind.

i wept when i visited there for a boat ride.

Duke also created an artificial lake beside it.

Ayade, please sell Tinapa to a foreign investor.

they can turn it into a Disneyland.

that city got UniCal, CRUTech, Arthur Jarvis University and Canaan Uni.

Tropicana at Uyo is another case study of abandoned project.

the place is dead.

Ayade's brain isn't been working from day one, this is why he lacks direction. This man has proven again and again that he is a serial failure. I pity the people of Cross River state.

The poster was right on point. The real reason Tinapa hasn't kicked off is because the Calarbar sea port is comatose. Open up the sea port and watch Tinapa boom

blackaxe78:
Did you read the post?

hmm

lexy2014:
obudu is said 2b 5hours away from calabar d state capital but it recorded very high patronage from visitors within &outside d country during d duke era. Which road, rail and airlink was used 2 cater 4 visitors then? If people could b transported 2 obudu, y would it b a problem 2 transport people within calabar? Or do u need plane 2 fly inside calabar?
Duke completed tinapa on schedule but I still don't understand what u mean by him not completing d project. Duke did 90% of d work 4 his successors. If there were other things lacking 2 sustain d initiative, what would it have cost them 2 put them in place even if it meant trying to pull strings at d federal level? Like u said, most of our governors aren't even fit 2b class prefects. So d project failed not cos d vision was 2 big or lack or road or airport, but due 2 their incompetence. For instance, d present governor can't even keep calabar clean as b4. What should it take him to do that?

The long and short of it is that despite how potentially beneficial the project would be, Duke did not factor in the fact that if not 100% done and self-sustaining long before his tenure elapses, there could be far less passionate successors coming behind. Simple. Like I said, a less grand scale would have been completed much earlier and CHEAPER.

You cannot compare Obudu Ranch to Tinapa in scale. Moreover Duke was not building Obudu from scratch. You cannot compare a centre lovers seek a quiet time or groups doingt a retreat to a place intended to be bustling with tourists, shoppers and very large commercial section with shopping halls. Even then some Obudu visitors including here on Nairaland complained about distance from Calabar to Obudu & costs of using/visiting Obudu. Remember that Obudu is also partially in direct competition with Tinapa leisure wise.

I do not know if you have traveled to some popular tourists spots around the world. Try to compare infrastructure near & leading to those spots to Calabar-Tinapa axis.

No matter how you look at it, in retrospect Tinapa funds could have been used to spread development across the state. No matter the reason why it didn't work, it was money wasted. Governments, both State & Federal have no business in commercial ventures. We have no continuity & bad at managing such. This much was already clear in 1999.

PurplePatch:
If the FG government will allow a seaport in Calabar then it will work. If not that is exactly the result starring us in the face.



I'll be back with more contributions.

Can you please explain how the FG is disallowing a seaport in Calabar?... Ive heard this theory for too long without any explanation.

Being a professor ain't same as astute investors.

Oga Prof. Ayade, what stops you from getting Donald Duke and Co to replan Tinapa?

You have a structure but can't make it functional.

why not just convert the place into a normal shopping mall for now and just maintain the hotel side. Until when the conditions become favourable to expand into a world class tourist centre.

The basic problem of Tinapa is the market. The population with buying power is located away from Tinapa and there is little or no connection. The Aba _Ikot Ekpene - Calabar road is a death trap. That is the only road that connects Calabar to the Market.

PurplePatch:
If the FG government will allow a seaport in Calabar then it will work. If not that is exactly the result starring us in the face.



I'll be back with more contributions.

Must Federal Governments do everything? State Governments should invest !

PurplePatch:
If the FG government will allow a seaport in Calabar then it will work. If not that is exactly the result starring us in the face.



I'll be back with more contributions.

Must Federal Governments do everything? State Governments should invest !
You see why Tinubu is a genius!! Lagos is building another sea port

Clueless governor with gap on his head. The most annoying part of it was that shameless Cross River State indigenes trooped out en masse to welcome the dollard when he returned from abroad after a fruitless leave. The people of that State need to have their heads checked.

AreaFada2:
The long and short of it is that despite how potentially beneficial the project would be, Duke did not factor in the fact that if not 100% done and self-sustaining long before his tenure elapses, there could be far less passionate successors coming behind. Simple. Like I said, a less grand scale would have been completed much earlier and CHEAPER.

You cannot compare Obudu Ranch to Tinapa in scale. Moreover Duke was not building Obudu from scratch. You cannot compare a centre lovers seek a quiet time or groups doingt a retreat to a place intended to be bustling with tourists, shoppers and very large commercial section with shopping halls. Even then some Obudu visitors including here on Nairaland complained about distance from Calabar to Obudu & costs of using/visiting Obudu. Remember that Obudu is also partially in direct competition with Tinapa leisure wise.

I do not know if you have traveled to some popular tourists spots around the world. Try to compare infrastructure near & leading to those spots to Calabar-Tinapa axis.

No matter how you look at it, in retrospect Tinapa funds could have been used to spread development across the state. No matter the reason why it didn't work, it was money wasted. Governments, both State & Federal have no business in commercial ventures. We have no continuity & bad at managing such. This much was already clear in 1999.

u mentioned lack of transportation as d reason y tinapa didn't work. That's y I asked u how was it possible 4 people 2 patronise obudu which was in a remote part of cross river state(5hours from d capital) yet theres no means of transporting people to tinapa which was in d state capital?

lexy2014:
u mentioned lack of transportation as d reason y tinapa didn't work. That's y I asked u how was it possible 4 people 2 patronise obudu which was in a remote part of cross river state(5hours from d capital) yet theres no means of transporting people to tinapa which was in d state capital?

OK. I mean Calabar will need better infrastructure in and leading to it. Like Lagos-Calabar coastal rail line that Jonathan conceptualised in the last few years. A real world class international airport that will enable flying from Yaounde, Accra, Libereville, Luanda, Maputo and such African countries likely to provide many tourists/shoppers. Among others. Tinapa could not be SUSTAINED by the number of visitors that the current amenities can cope with.

Such a project would have a slightly better chance around Lagos-Ogun axis. Considering Lagos population, nearness to Ibadan, Abeokuta, etc. Even then international access with our congested MMA, no rail link to Benin-Togo-Ghana will still be a minus.

Gerrard59:


You don't mean it? I thought Presco and Okomu patronise their research findings frequently? Tell me it's a lie.

As for Ayade, I've always known him to be a cretinous and moronic fvcktard. Is he not the one who passed an incoherent budget of "crystallisation" that had 1,100 SAs and PAs appointed?

Dude is a cretin!

NAIFOR is comatose bro.as for Ayade being a cretinous and moronic person ...i thought he"s a prof.profs are supposed to be smart .

crazysam001:
Modified: apologies for my earlier outburst i should have displayed more decorum. As you have stated a monirail was indeed designed and paid for by the government from the airport to tinapa and it was designed to hold cargo and pedestrians. The new government of Imoke built a confrence centre and instead linked it to tinapa using the same monirail thus the idea of conveying cargo to and from tinapa using the airport was killed at that point. Tinapas failure is a case of the dangers of lack of continuity in governance. Apologies again for my earlier outburst.

No problem. Thanks for a detailed explanation on the reason the project failed. You are absolutely right with the stated fact that our leaders fail to realize that continuity is needed in governance. I really hope our leaders will look beyond personal interest and ego. Thanks for the heads-up.