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There is this lie that alien religions worship only one God. This is not true. What the Christian and Islamic religions did was pick Yahweh from the ten Jewish intermediary gods and substitute the remaining nine: Hokhmah, Binah, Hesed, Gevurah, Tifereth, Netsah, Hod, Yesod and Malkuth with Jesus, Muhammad, Saints, Anubis, Angels etc. Yahweh is only one of the ten Jewish attributes of En-Sof. Yahweh is a tribal deity and claims to hate Africans (i.e. Amorites, Philistines, Canaanites, Jebusites, Hittites.) He threatened to wipe us all off the face of the earth for his children, the Israelites. So, when someone tells you 'God bless you,' be weary and ask which god, which deity? It is important for all religious people, particularly African Christians and Muslims, to understand this. Yahweh is a Jewish tribal god and not the ultimate source of spirituality, which is Tu-SoS or the Jewish En-Sof.

Tu-SoS or En-Sof is not worshipped anywhere in the world. Modern Africans, like their ancestors, do not worship Tu-SoS, which they variously call Olodumare, Osanobua, Chukwu. The Jews too do not worship En-Sof. The Jews like the Africans, worship the intermediary Gods. African ancestors created all the initial intermediary Gods and Deities known to man. African intermediary Gods include Olokun, the Goddess of beauty, arts, culture, poetry, love, marriage, femininity and fertility. Orunmila, the God of wisdom, scholarship and learning. Obatala, the God of creativity, Sango, the God of lightening, masculinity, fearlessness and hard work, Ogun, the God of Iron, technology etc.

The secondary intermediary gods or deities, including the Jewish ones, are mere tribal adaptations of the original African intermediary Gods and include Thoth, Apollo, Bacchus, Venus, Jupiter, Hercules, Thor, Asteroth, Adonis, Apis, Mars, Anubis, Yahweh, Minerva, Diana, Nephthy, Ishtar, Brahman, and all the other adapted ethnic gods and goddesses with a variety of names around the world today. They are not as spiritually potent as the original African spiritual energies from which they were cultured.

If you go to any of the original, undiluted, African spiritual energies, such as Sango, to make a request, the Deity or Sango, would give you conditions to fulfill there and then. You would not have to go home and come back for Sango's response, and if you meet the conditions set, Sango would oblige you with your request. It is as simple as that and it could happen within minutes of your request.

If, on the other hand, you go to the diluted or adapted spiritual energies like the Christian and Islamic Yahweh, to table a request, you don't get an answer right away. In fact, you could be talking to a brick wall. You keep praying, begging and fasting, hoping that someone is listening. A good example of this is the Irish priest who assembled a dozen barren, middle-aged, married women and passed six of them on to Baba-maven to use his witchcraft to alter their faith while he prayed for the other six. The priest decided the choice of candidates and allocated them. After six weeks of the experiment, five of Baba's six candidates were pregnant for their husbands while the six the priest prayed and fasted intensely and fervently for, remained barren.

If by any chance something favourable eventually happens, perhaps months or even years after you first made your request to Yahweh or the other secondary gods, you give the credit (or glory as it is often claimed) to Yahweh. But when a tsunami happens in your life, you blame your sinful self and not Yahweh for it. Your relationship with Yahweh is based purely on chance, and that is not how spirituality works. Spirituality can be asked and even commanded to make things happen although often at a price.

Apart from being undiluted, African spirituality is more powerful than the rest because it relies totally on natural elements relevant and pleasing to the Gods. Artificial substitutes such as bread, wine, crosses, do not work because they are not natural elements. The Pope, who claims to represent Christ on earth, would like to be able to perform miracles (which many African priests take for granted) if he knew how.

How to engage the Gods.

Praying in the name of any God is not enough. If humans, who do not live in the same house or the same street or the same town or country, want to talk to each other, they do not begin to pray or shout or use loudspeakers in their rooms or churches or mosques and expect the other to hear them miles away; they use the telephone. Does it even make sense or show respect that you should be shouting in the name or presence of your God or Gods, unless they are deaf? That could be a reason they are not responding.

Witchcraft is the telephone link with the Gods and the spirit world. The only link, and it is the highest level of science for man. How to effectively use it to engage the Gods is one of the greatest secrets of the ages. The secret is kept from most of mankind because such power could be misused in the wrong hands.

Witchcraft works exactly in the same way as the Internet. When you type and store or send a document in or from your computer, powerful cameras of engines such as Google, Yahoo, Hotmail pick up the document to the minutest details. Store the document in giant memory banks, send what needs to be sent to be accessed from any computer in the world by the identified beneficiary; analyze, juggle and arrange the information under a mirage of themes such as name of author, subject matters, languages and so on, to make the document easily accessible and functional to a verity of users around the world at the press of the button. In the same way, every thing we say or do in life is recorded in a giant spiritual memory bank, the same way the YouTube records images, MySpace actions and Google stores documents for Internet use. The gigantic spiritual memory or data bank can then be accessed with the help of a combination of natural elements such as leaves, oils, fresh blood, carcasses of animals, birds etc, coupled with spoken instructions (words), the potency and weight of which depends on the level of expertise of the agent, messenger or the medium.

To enter the computer Internet, for instance, we first switch on the electricity mains, then the computer, then the communication gadget to engage some special engines (or facilitators) such as Yahoo, Hotmail, Excel, Google and so on. These engines are the energy links to the Gods or deities such as Maat, Sango, Olokun, Yahweh etc. Surfing on the computer Internet to check out websites and send e-mails, is the equivalence of praying, meditating, asking, begging, wishing and crying. The practical activities of getting on, sending and receiving messages on the Internet, equate with witchcraft. Witchcraft is the Spiritual Internet link and information and action processing catalyst of human interaction with the Gods.

To engage a God to respond to you, you must do a number of things pleasing to the God. These are secrets kept from most of mankind because such power could be misused in the wrong hands. Praying in the name of any God is not enough. You must first knock and receive the response to enter the realm of the God before making your requests in form of prayers or crying, (these are all witchcraft.)

A good example of this is the Irish priest who assembled a dozen barren, middle-aged, married women and passed six of them on to Baba-maven to use his witchcraft to alter their faith while he prayed for the other six. The priest decided the choice of candidates and allocated them. After six weeks of the experiment, five of Baba's six candidates were pregnant for their husbands while the six the priest prayed and fasted intensely and fervently for, remained barren.

Walamu:
African Gods nearly always answer when the conditions are meet. This is how come after practicing Ifa for a while I began to notice that my prayers were answered sometimes within minutes with powerful results.

Izognok:
I do not want to quote you, but I will point out some facts, and correct you.

1. You wrote and I quote you:
"If you go to any of the original, undiluted, African spiritual energies, such as Sango, to make a request, the Deity or Sango, would give you conditions to fulfill there and then. You would not have to go home and come back for Sango's response, and if you meet the conditions set, Sango would oblige you with your request. It is as simple as that and it could happen within minutes of your request.

If, on the other hand, you go to the diluted or adapted spiritual energies like the Christian and Islamic Yahweh, to table a request, you don't get an answer right away. In fact, you could be talking to a brick wall. You keep praying, begging and fasting, hoping that someone is listening."

Who told you that you do not get instant result when you choose the christian or moslim path? Hmmm!

A portion of the book of Christains says, broad is the way which leads to destruction, but narrow is the way which leads to life. It quotes Jesus and says "My sheep know my voice". My brother there are many people in religion, but very few people in living a "way of life". Narrow is the way which leads to life.

Religion is a tool in the hands of the master of this world. Christianity, Islam, Hindu, etc are all religion. Religion traps. It enslaves. Even Sango worshopping which you praised so well is a kind of religion too. How dear you say recklessly that "thunder fire you" when Sango was still active in those days? Even a foreigner was pissed of with me because I annoyed her, and she said "thunder fires my enemy (not me)". I had to explain what the phrase really meant. She later said "Oh My God! I am sorry dear. I thought it is just a slang because it is common phrase on nairaland". So, can you see how that Shango which you portray so powerful is presently a common commodity on nairaland to the extent foreigners play with the god of thunder who used to spit fire out of his mouth? Who born anyone well to joke with the god of thunder in those days?

Hmmm! We all saw the video of one governor's unclothedness while swearing oath in a shrine in the eastern part of Nigeria some years back (I will not mention any name). But that governor later violated the sworn oath, and the only way they got at him was to show his unclothedness online. Why cannot that god of "okirija" or whatever the name is called killed the governor, and they had to take his unclothedness to the world to destroy his reputation? And was the governor really remorseful? Lol. Of course not. The man just dey do his thing dey go. And even with the swearing, that man still dey pull babes up and down. Do you want to tell me the girls the man dey pull up and down were not aware of the so called covenant he had taking?

Let us look at the yahoo boys. If you really want to get first hand information, go to twitter and not nairaland. You will read tweets about pastors and imams, and not only traditional priests assisting yahoo boys with spiritual powers. Who told you that what they give them do not work or works? Do you have any confirmation?

Here is my point - only few know the way of life. Those few know how to reach God. If you understand this concept, you will realise that those traditional people always say that it is the same God we serve. Only christians and maybe moslims say that no no no and that their God/god is different from other's. But let me tell you, there is a similarity with those who know the way of life. Religion is just to enslave.

Number one similarity is that those who know the way of life travel in the spirit. That is what you called witchcraft. I agree that they travel, but that is not the only way. Anyone can travel. The good and bad, the beautiful and ugly, all travel. They are few these days. And it is why deception is numerous out there. The Bible says that at the near end of this world, there will be lovers of money and many fake prophets. This is what is happening.

But when you meet a real man of God who is filled with the spirit of God, you will get instant answer. The funny thing is that you hardly hear their names out there. Do you think Pastor Adeboye does not have people he still consults? Or the bilionaire Bishop Oyedepo too? See, the Bible says my people perish because of lack of wisdom. There are still very few old babas we do not know who are in their 80s, 90s, or above that the Adeboyes and Oyedepos acknowledge as powerful people. I am not saying they go there to collect powers ooo. Do not misquote me as I am not ready for religious debate as the members of their churches wil come out to defend what they do not know, or start saying what I have not said. I am not here to argue with anyone.

When Elijah ran for his life because Jezebel killed all God's prophets. Oh! So thought Elijah. But God told him that he has in reservation a huge number of prophets who had not bowed down for Baal. There are few unknown silent powerful people who are christians and moslims.

You wrote that christians do not get instant answers. A dey laugh at your ignorance. If you want to try what I am saying, just be bold. Book an appointment with Dr. Daniel K. Olukoya of MFM, or even with his right hand man Pastor Kehinde. Go there with the god of whatever you have and try your power. If you return home, it is the mercy of God. I repeat, try your power with Olukoya and come and testify here that you defeated him. This is practical. Do you hear me? I mentioned Dr. Olukoya because you specifically pointed out christianity.

Have you ever heard Olukoya talks about politics and who is to be crowned the king of Aso Rock, or how to buy private jet? Go pick his books, they are enveloped with prayer points for unlocking, binding, winning in the spiritual world.

Let me close by saying that one common attribute with any powerful man whether he is a christian, moslim, sango, obatala, hindu, jumbo, crambo, marmon, eckankar, shango, obatala, yoga, memkrabolistikola , or whatever religion you call it is that they are silent. And they meditate deeply. What they medidate on is what differenciates them from one another. Think about it. Think well.

If you want to know what meditation is, visit a yoga center.

They move into the realm of the spirit during meditation. How? Man is made up of body, soul, and spirit. Your spirit man is the real you, connected by your soul to your physical body. How can anyone in the body connect to the spirit? The soul is the answer. A line of thought of a group of theologians says the soul comprises of the mind, thought and emotion. This is where everything happens. When you feed your mind (soul) with what can make you travel in the spirit, and you medidate deeply in it, off you go. So, what do you feed your mind on? All these people meet in the spirit realm.

Many materials out there. Many ways out there. Moslims have theirs, so also christians, hindus. Even Asians medidate more than any continent. Think about yoga again. You think say na joke? Just be careful of what you read and meditate on, and the approach you decide to take if you want to be powerful. It is a delicate and dangerous adventure. You get it wrong, though you travel in the spirit world, your soul can be condemned eternally.

There are powers, but there is a power which is above all powers. It is your duty to find this power. The power that is above all powers. Yes! Other powers can enable you fly, dance, kill, eat, or do whatsoever in the spirit..but there is a power which is above all powers. In order not to stir up religious conflicts here, let us stop here.

There is something which amazed me some few years back. We all know who the late Chief Dehinde Fenandez was. At 19 years, he moved containers of tin (solid mineral) to the US. Fenandez, who George W. Bush called the ambassador of extra-ordinary ambassadors. Fernandez, who was the finance Minister and Economic coordinator of another African country apart from Nigeria, and the country had to make him a citizenship. Fenendez, the owner of one of the most productive gold mining and refinery center in Africa. Fenandez, the Oluwo of the Ogboni fraternity.

At the later part of his life, he moved to Belgium. And what amazed me was that Pastor Tunde Bakare was at his burial ceremony in Brussel at the front row of the church service, and was beside his wife during interment. Hahahhaa! Is the Oluwo's body not that of the Ogboni? They are always buried in Naija. And the fraternity makes it a big ceremony. Their Oluwo's funeral ceremony in a foreign land? Fernandez is the first I heard of. The body must be brought to Nigeria. His heart (physical) belongs to them. And there are rights to be performed. But who am I to judge. Maybe they have flown there to perform whatever they suppose do. But here is my point, do not judge. There is a mystery there.

There is a friend who asked me to confirm if tales about human beings who turn to cats and birds at night are true. She wants to know about Benin City, as she is always reading on nairaland about these strange tales. I was trying to look at the best way to explain the little I know about the subject, but I realised that she is always eager to argue that it is unreal. I was not even saying it is real. I have not taking my position at all. And recently. She was saying I do not want to discuss the subject. She is right, i do not want to discuss it because she is too forward and it is hard to have a good conversation with someone like that. I was patient to see if a day will come when she is calm that I can say the little I know. But as soon as I mention anything along the line, it always turn to religious argument and debate? Who has time for yelling about such topics. A beg, make a go use my time do more productive things. My people perish because of lack of knowledge. #ByeByeToFoolishnessAndCrazyArguments

I have spoken, and I will not return to explain, elaborate, or debate anything with you.

Let me shock you. Even a few Athiests know how to medidate. And it is why they sound very sure of what they say. When they say there is no God, they have a reason they say so. I am not an Atheist, and I do not judge them. In fact, I always have good conversation with Athiests better than religious people.

I like how Aristotle put forward the "unmoved mover". And I believe Thomas Aquinas did justice to the subject.

I wish you best of luck in your pursuit. But do not go and injure yourself. Stay safe.

Izognok:
I do not want to quote you, but I will point out some facts, and correct you.

1. You wrote and I quote you:
"If you go to any of the original, undiluted, African spiritual energies, such as Sango, to make a request, the Deity or Sango, would give you conditions to fulfill there and then. You would not have to go home and come back for Sango's response, and if you meet the conditions set, Sango would oblige you with your request. It is as simple as that and it could happen within minutes of your request.

If, on the other hand, you go to the diluted or adapted spiritual energies like the Christian and Islamic Yahweh, to table a request, you don't get an answer right away. In fact, you could be talking to a brick wall. You keep praying, begging and fasting, hoping that someone is listening."

Who told you that you do not get instant result when you choose the christian or moslim path? Hmmm!

A portion of the book of Christains says, broad is the way which leads to destruction, but narrow is the way which leads to life. It quotes Jesus and says "My sheep know my voice". My brother there are many people in religion, but very few people in living a "way of life". Narrow is the way which leads to life.

Religion is a tool in the hands of the master of this world. Christianity, Islam, Hindu, etc are all religion. Religion traps. It enslaves. Even Sango worshopping which you praised so well is a kind of religion too. How dear you say recklessly that "thunder fire you" when Sango was still active in those days? Even a foreigner was pissed of with me because I annoyed her, and she said "thunder fires my enemy (not me)". I had to explain what the phrase really meant. She later said "Oh My God! I am sorry dear. I thought it is just a slang because it is common phrase on nairaland". So, can you see how that Shango which you portray so powerful is presently a common commodity on nairaland to the extent foreigners play with the god of thunder who used to spit fire out of his mouth? Who born anyone well to joke with the god of thunder in those days?

Hmmm! We all saw the video of one governor's unclothedness while swearing oath in a shrine in the eastern part of Nigeria some years back (I will not mention any name). But that governor later violated the sworn oath, and the only way they got at him was to show his unclothedness online. Why cannot that god of "okirija" or whatever the name is called killed the governor, and they had to take his unclothedness to the world to destroy his reputation? And was the governor really remorseful? Lol. Of course not. The man just dey do his thing dey go. And even with the swearing, that man still dey pull babes up and down. Do you want to tell me the girls the man dey pull up and down were not aware of the so called covenant he had taking?

Let us look at the yahoo boys. If you really want to get first hand information, go to twitter and not nairaland. You will read tweets about pastors and imams, and not only traditional priests assisting yahoo boys with spiritual powers. Who told you that what they give them do not work or works? Do you have any confirmation?

Here is my point - only few know the way of life. Those few know how to reach God. If you understand this concept, you will realise that those traditional people always say that it is the same God we serve. Only christians and maybe moslims say that no no no and that their God/god is different from other's. But let me tell you, there is a similarity with those who know the way of life. Religion is just to enslave.

Number one similarity is that those who know the way of life travel in the spirit. That is what you called witchcraft. I agree that they travel, but that is not the only way. Anyone can travel. The good and bad, the beautiful and ugly, all travel. They are few these days. And it is why deception is numerous out there. The Bible says that at the near end of this world, there will be lovers of money and many fake prophets. This is what is happening.

But when you meet a real man of God who is filled with the spirit of God, you will get instant answer. The funny thing is that you hardly hear their names out there. Do you think Pastor Adeboye does not have people he still consults? Or the bilionaire Bishop Oyedepo too? See, the Bible says my people perish because of lack of wisdom. There are still very few old babas we do not know who are in their 80s, 90s, or above that the Adeboyes and Oyedepos acknowledge as powerful people. I am not saying they go there to collect powers ooo. Do not misquote me as I am not ready for religious debate as the members of their churches wil come out to defend what they do not know, or start saying what I have not said. I am not here to argue with anyone.

When Elijah ran for his life because Jezebel killed all God's prophets. Oh! So thought Elijah. But God told him that he has in reservation a huge number of prophets who had not bowed down for Baal. There are few unknown silent powerful people who are christians and moslims.

You wrote that christians do not get instant answers. A dey laugh at your ignorance. If you want to try what I am saying, just be bold. Book an appointment with Dr. Daniel K. Olukoya of MFM, or even with his right hand man Pastor Kehinde. Go there with the god of whatever you have and try your power. If you return home, it is the mercy of God. I repeat, try your power with Olukoya and come and testify here that you defeated him. This is practical. Do you hear me? I mentioned Dr. Olukoya because you specifically pointed out christianity.

Have you ever heard Olukoya talks about politics and who is to be crowned the king of Aso Rock, or how to buy private jet? Go pick his books, they are enveloped with prayer points for unlocking, binding, winning in the spiritual world.

Let me close by saying that one common attribute with any powerful man whether he is a christian, moslim, sango, obatala, hindu, jumbo, crambo, marmon, eckankar, shango, obatala, yoga, memkrabolistikola , or whatever religion you call it is that they are silent. And they meditate deeply. What they medidate on is what differenciates them from one another. Think about it. Think well.

If you want to know what meditation is, visit a yoga center.

They move into the realm of the spirit during meditation. How? Man is made up of body, soul, and spirit. Your spirit man is the real you, connected by your soul to your physical body. How can anyone in the body connect to the spirit? The soul is the answer. A line of thought of a group of theologians says the soul comprises of the mind, thought and emotion. This is where everything happens. When you feed your mind (soul) with what can make you travel in the spirit, and you medidate deeply in it, off you go. So, what do you feed your mind on? All these people meet in the spirit realm.

Many materials out there. Many ways out there. Moslims have theirs, so also christians, hindus. Even Asians medidate more than any continent. Think about yoga again. You think say na joke? Just be careful of what you read and meditate on, and the approach you decide to take if you want to be powerful. It is a delicate and dangerous adventure. You get it wrong, though you travel in the spirit world, your soul can be condemned eternally.

There are powers, but there is a power which is above all powers. It is your duty to find this power. The power that is above all powers. Yes! Other powers can enable you fly, dance, kill, eat, or do whatsoever in the spirit..but there is a power which is above all powers. In order not to stir up religious conflicts here, let us stop here.

There is something which amazed me some few years back. We all know who the late Chief Dehinde Fenandez was. At 19 years, he moved containers of tin (solid mineral) to the US. Fenandez, who George W. Bush called the ambassador of extra-ordinary ambassadors. Fernandez, who was the finance Minister and Economic coordinator of another African country apart from Nigeria, and the country had to make him a citizenship. Fenendez, the owner of one of the most productive gold mining and refinery center in Africa. Fenandez, the Oluwo of the Ogboni fraternity.

At the later part of his life, he moved to Belgium. And what amazed me was that Pastor Tunde Bakare was at his burial ceremony in Brussel at the front row of the church service, and was beside his wife during interment. Hahahhaa! Is the Oluwo's body not that of the Ogboni? They are always buried in Naija. And the fraternity makes it a big ceremony. Their Oluwo's funeral ceremony in a foreign land? Fernandez is the first I heard of. The body must be brought to Nigeria. His heart (physical) belongs to them. And there are rights to be performed. But who am I to judge. Maybe they have flown there to perform whatever they suppose do. But here is my point, do not judge. There is a mystery there.

There is a friend who asked me to confirm if tales about human beings who turn to cats and birds at night are true. She wants to know about Benin City, as she is always reading on nairaland about these strange tales. I was trying to look at the best way to explain the little I know about the subject, but I realised that she is always eager to argue that it is unreal. I was not even saying it is real. I have not taking my position at all. And recently. She was saying I do not want to discuss the subject. She is right, i do not want to discuss it because she is too forward and it is hard to have a good conversation with someone like that. I was patient to see if a day will come when she is calm that I can say the little I know. But as soon as I mention anything along the line, it always turn to religious argument and debate? Who has time for yelling about such topics. A beg, make a go use my time do more productive things. My people perish because of lack of knowledge. #ByeByeToFoolishnessAndCrazyArguments

I have spoken, and I will not return to explain, elaborate, or debate anything with you.

Let me shock you. Even a few Athiests know how to medidate. And it is why they sound very sure of what they say. When they say there is no God, they have a reason they say so. I am not an Atheist, and I do not judge them. In fact, I always have good conversation with Athiests better than religious people.

I like how Aristotle put forward the "unmoved mover". And I believe Thomas Aquinas did justice to the subject.

I wish you best of luck in your pursuit. But do not go and injure yourself. Stay safe.

Izognok:
I do not want to quote you, but I will point out some facts, and correct you.

1. You wrote and I quote you:
"If you go to any of the original, undiluted, African spiritual energies, such as Sango, to make a request, the Deity or Sango, would give you conditions to fulfill there and then. You would not have to go home and come back for Sango's response, and if you meet the conditions set, Sango would oblige you with your request. It is as simple as that and it could happen within minutes of your request.

If, on the other hand, you go to the diluted or adapted spiritual energies like the Christian and Islamic Yahweh, to table a request, you don't get an answer right away. In fact, you could be talking to a brick wall. You keep praying, begging and fasting, hoping that someone is listening."

Who told you that you do not get instant result when you choose the christian or moslim path? Hmmm!

A portion of the book of Christains says, broad is the way which leads to destruction, but narrow is the way which leads to life. It quotes Jesus and says "My sheep know my voice". My brother there are many people in religion, but very few people in living a "way of life". Narrow is the way which leads to life.

Religion is a tool in the hands of the master of this world. Christianity, Islam, Hindu, etc are all religion. Religion traps. It enslaves. Even Sango worshopping which you praised so well is a kind of religion too. How dear you say recklessly that "thunder fire you" when Sango was still active in those days? Even a foreigner was pissed of with me because I annoyed her, and she said "thunder fires my enemy (not me)". I had to explain what the phrase really meant. She later said "Oh My God! I am sorry dear. I thought it is just a slang because it is common phrase on nairaland". So, can you see how that Shango which you portray so powerful is presently a common commodity on nairaland to the extent foreigners play with the god of thunder who used to spit fire out of his mouth? Who born anyone well to joke with the god of thunder in those days?

Hmmm! We all saw the video of one governor's unclothedness while swearing oath in a shrine in the eastern part of Nigeria some years back (I will not mention any name). But that governor later violated the sworn oath, and the only way they got at him was to show his unclothedness online. Why cannot that god of "okirija" or whatever the name is called killed the governor, and they had to take his unclothedness to the world to destroy his reputation? And was the governor really remorseful? Lol. Of course not. The man just dey do his thing dey go. And even with the swearing, that man still dey pull babes up and down. Do you want to tell me the girls the man dey pull up and down were not aware of the so called covenant he had taking?

Let us look at the yahoo boys. If you really want to get first hand information, go to twitter and not nairaland. You will read tweets about pastors and imams, and not only traditional priests assisting yahoo boys with spiritual powers. Who told you that what they give them do not work or works? Do you have any confirmation?

Here is my point - only few know the way of life. Those few know how to reach God. If you understand this concept, you will realise that those traditional people always say that it is the same God we serve. Only christians and maybe moslims say that no no no and that their God/god is different from other's. But let me tell you, there is a similarity with those who know the way of life. Religion is just to enslave.

Number one similarity is that those who know the way of life travel in the spirit. That is what you called witchcraft. I agree that they travel, but that is not the only way. Anyone can travel. The good and bad, the beautiful and ugly, all travel. They are few these days. And it is why deception is numerous out there. The Bible says that at the near end of this world, there will be lovers of money and many fake prophets. This is what is happening.

But when you meet a real man of God who is filled with the spirit of God, you will get instant answer. The funny thing is that you hardly hear their names out there. Do you think Pastor Adeboye does not have people he still consults? Or the bilionaire Bishop Oyedepo too? See, the Bible says my people perish because of lack of wisdom. There are still very few old babas we do not know who are in their 80s, 90s, or above that the Adeboyes and Oyedepos acknowledge as powerful people. I am not saying they go there to collect powers ooo. Do not misquote me as I am not ready for religious debate as the members of their churches wil come out to defend what they do not know, or start saying what I have not said. I am not here to argue with anyone.

When Elijah ran for his life because Jezebel killed all God's prophets. Oh! So thought Elijah. But God told him that he has in reservation a huge number of prophets who had not bowed down for Baal. There are few unknown silent powerful people who are christians and moslims.

You wrote that christians do not get instant answers. A dey laugh at your ignorance. If you want to try what I am saying, just be bold. Book an appointment with Dr. Daniel K. Olukoya of MFM, or even with his right hand man Pastor Kehinde. Go there with the god of whatever you have and try your power. If you return home, it is the mercy of God. I repeat, try your power with Olukoya and come and testify here that you defeated him. This is practical. Do you hear me? I mentioned Dr. Olukoya because you specifically pointed out christianity.

Have you ever heard Olukoya talks about politics and who is to be crowned the king of Aso Rock, or how to buy private jet? Go pick his books, they are enveloped with prayer points for unlocking, binding, winning in the spiritual world.

Let me close by saying that one common attribute with any powerful man whether he is a christian, moslim, sango, obatala, hindu, jumbo, crambo, marmon, eckankar, shango, obatala, yoga, memkrabolistikola , or whatever religion you call it is that they are silent. And they meditate deeply. What they medidate on is what differenciates them from one another. Think about it. Think well.

If you want to know what meditation is, visit a yoga center.

They move into the realm of the spirit during meditation. How? Man is made up of body, soul, and spirit. Your spirit man is the real you, connected by your soul to your physical body. How can anyone in the body connect to the spirit? The soul is the answer. A line of thought of a group of theologians says the soul comprises of the mind, thought and emotion. This is where everything happens. When you feed your mind (soul) with what can make you travel in the spirit, and you medidate deeply in it, off you go. So, what do you feed your mind on? All these people meet in the spirit realm.

Many materials out there. Many ways out there. Moslims have theirs, so also christians, hindus. Even Asians medidate more than any continent. Think about yoga again. You think say na joke? Just be careful of what you read and meditate on, and the approach you decide to take if you want to be powerful. It is a delicate and dangerous adventure. You get it wrong, though you travel in the spirit world, your soul can be condemned eternally.

There are powers, but there is a power which is above all powers. It is your duty to find this power. The power that is above all powers. Yes! Other powers can enable you fly, dance, kill, eat, or do whatsoever in the spirit..but there is a power which is above all powers. In order not to stir up religious conflicts here, let us stop here.

There is something which amazed me some few years back. We all know who the late Chief Dehinde Fenandez was. At 19 years, he moved containers of tin (solid mineral) to the US. Fenandez, who George W. Bush called the ambassador of extra-ordinary ambassadors. Fernandez, who was the finance Minister and Economic coordinator of another African country apart from Nigeria, and the country had to make him a citizenship. Fenendez, the owner of one of the most productive gold mining and refinery center in Africa. Fenandez, the Oluwo of the Ogboni fraternity.

At the later part of his life, he moved to Belgium. And what amazed me was that Pastor Tunde Bakare was at his burial ceremony in Brussel at the front row of the church service, and was beside his wife during interment. Hahahhaa! Is the Oluwo's body not that of the Ogboni? They are always buried in Naija. And the fraternity makes it a big ceremony. Their Oluwo's funeral ceremony in a foreign land? Fernandez is the first I heard of. The body must be brought to Nigeria. His heart (physical) belongs to them. And there are rights to be performed. But who am I to judge. Maybe they have flown there to perform whatever they suppose do. But here is my point, do not judge. There is a mystery there.

There is a friend who asked me to confirm if tales about human beings who turn to cats and birds at night are true. She wants to know about Benin City, as she is always reading on nairaland about these strange tales. I was trying to look at the best way to explain the little I know about the subject, but I realised that she is always eager to argue that it is unreal. I was not even saying it is real. I have not taking my position at all. And recently. She was saying I do not want to discuss the subject. She is right, i do not want to discuss it because she is too forward and it is hard to have a good conversation with someone like that. I was patient to see if a day will come when she is calm that I can say the little I know. But as soon as I mention anything along the line, it always turn to religious argument and debate? Who has time for yelling about such topics. A beg, make a go use my time do more productive things. My people perish because of lack of knowledge. #ByeByeToFoolishnessAndCrazyArguments

I have spoken, and I will not return to explain, elaborate, or debate anything with you.

Let me shock you. Even a few Athiests know how to medidate. And it is why they sound very sure of what they say. When they say there is no God, they have a reason they say so. I am not an Atheist, and I do not judge them. In fact, I always have good conversation with Athiests better than religious people.

I like how Aristotle put forward the "unmoved mover". And I believe Thomas Aquinas did justice to the subject.

I wish you best of luck in your pursuit. But do not go and injure yourself. Stay safe.

Obakuso:
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Obakuso:
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Obakuso:
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Izognok:
I do not want to quote you, but I will point out some facts, and correct you.

1. You wrote and I quote you:
"If you go to any of the original, undiluted, African spiritual energies, such as Sango, to make a request, the Deity or Sango, would give you conditions to fulfill there and then. You would not have to go home and come back for Sango's response, and if you meet the conditions set, Sango would oblige you with your request. It is as simple as that and it could happen within minutes of your request.

If, on the other hand, you go to the diluted or adapted spiritual energies like the Christian and Islamic Yahweh, to table a request, you don't get an answer right away. In fact, you could be talking to a brick wall. You keep praying, begging and fasting, hoping that someone is listening."

Who told you that you do not get instant result when you choose the christian or moslim path? Hmmm!

A portion of the book of Christains says, broad is the way which leads to destruction, but narrow is the way which leads to life. It quotes Jesus and says "My sheep know my voice". My brother there are many people in religion, but very few people in living a "way of life". Narrow is the way which leads to life.

Religion is a tool in the hands of the master of this world. Christianity, Islam, Hindu, etc are all religion. Religion traps. It enslaves. Even Sango worshopping which you praised so well is a kind of religion too. How dear you say recklessly that "thunder fire you" when Sango was still active in those days? Even a foreigner was pissed of with me because I annoyed her, and she said "thunder fires my enemy (not me)". I had to explain what the phrase really meant. She later said "Oh My God! I am sorry dear. I thought it is just a slang because it is common phrase on nairaland". So, can you see how that Shango which you portray so powerful is presently a common commodity on nairaland to the extent foreigners play with the god of thunder who used to spit fire out of his mouth? Who born anyone well to joke with the god of thunder in those days?

Hmmm! We all saw the video of one governor's unclothedness while swearing oath in a shrine in the eastern part of Nigeria some years back (I will not mention any name). But that governor later violated the sworn oath, and the only way they got at him was to show his unclothedness online. Why cannot that god of "okirija" or whatever the name is called killed the governor, and they had to take his unclothedness to the world to destroy his reputation? And was the governor really remorseful? Lol. Of course not. The man just dey do his thing dey go. And even with the swearing, that man still dey pull babes up and down. Do you want to tell me the girls the man dey pull up and down were not aware of the so called covenant he had taking?

Let us look at the yahoo boys. If you really want to get first hand information, go to twitter and not nairaland. You will read tweets about pastors and imams, and not only traditional priests assisting yahoo boys with spiritual powers. Who told you that what they give them do not work or works? Do you have any confirmation?

Here is my point - only few know the way of life. Those few know how to reach God. If you understand this concept, you will realise that those traditional people always say that it is the same God we serve. Only christians and maybe moslims say that no no no and that their God/god is different from other's. But let me tell you, there is a similarity with those who know the way of life. Religion is just to enslave.

Number one similarity is that those who know the way of life travel in the spirit. That is what you called witchcraft. I agree that they travel, but that is not the only way. Anyone can travel. The good and bad, the beautiful and ugly, all travel. They are few these days. And it is why deception is numerous out there. The Bible says that at the near end of this world, there will be lovers of money and many fake prophets. This is what is happening.

But when you meet a real man of God who is filled with the spirit of God, you will get instant answer. The funny thing is that you hardly hear their names out there. Do you think Pastor Adeboye does not have people he still consults? Or the bilionaire Bishop Oyedepo too? See, the Bible says my people perish because of lack of wisdom. There are still very few old babas we do not know who are in their 80s, 90s, or above that the Adeboyes and Oyedepos acknowledge as powerful people. I am not saying they go there to collect powers ooo. Do not misquote me as I am not ready for religious debate as the members of their churches wil come out to defend what they do not know, or start saying what I have not said. I am not here to argue with anyone.

When Elijah ran for his life because Jezebel killed all God's prophets. Oh! So thought Elijah. But God told him that he has in reservation a huge number of prophets who had not bowed down for Baal. There are few unknown silent powerful people who are christians and moslims.

You wrote that christians do not get instant answers. A dey laugh at your ignorance. If you want to try what I am saying, just be bold. Book an appointment with Dr. Daniel K. Olukoya of MFM, or even with his right hand man Pastor Kehinde. Go there with the god of whatever you have and try your power. If you return home, it is the mercy of God. I repeat, try your power with Olukoya and come and testify here that you defeated him. This is practical. Do you hear me? I mentioned Dr. Olukoya because you specifically pointed out christianity.

Have you ever heard Olukoya talks about politics and who is to be crowned the king of Aso Rock, or how to buy private jet? Go pick his books, they are enveloped with prayer points for unlocking, binding, winning in the spiritual world.

Let me close by saying that one common attribute with any powerful man whether he is a christian, moslim, sango, obatala, hindu, jumbo, crambo, marmon, eckankar, shango, obatala, yoga, memkrabolistikola , or whatever religion you call it is that they are silent. And they meditate deeply. What they medidate on is what differenciates them from one another. Think about it. Think well.

If you want to know what meditation is, visit a yoga center.

They move into the realm of the spirit during meditation. How? Man is made up of body, soul, and spirit. Your spirit man is the real you, connected by your soul to your physical body. How can anyone in the body connect to the spirit? The soul is the answer. A line of thought of a group of theologians says the soul comprises of the mind, thought and emotion. This is where everything happens. When you feed your mind (soul) with what can make you travel in the spirit, and you medidate deeply in it, off you go. So, what do you feed your mind on? All these people meet in the spirit realm.

Many materials out there. Many ways out there. Moslims have theirs, so also christians, hindus. Even Asians medidate more than any continent. Think about yoga again. You think say na joke? Just be careful of what you read and meditate on, and the approach you decide to take if you want to be powerful. It is a delicate and dangerous adventure. You get it wrong, though you travel in the spirit world, your soul can be condemned eternally.

There are powers, but there is a power which is above all powers. It is your duty to find this power. The power that is above all powers. Yes! Other powers can enable you fly, dance, kill, eat, or do whatsoever in the spirit..but there is a power which is above all powers. In order not to stir up religious conflicts here, let us stop here.

There is something which amazed me some few years back. We all know who the late Chief Dehinde Fenandez was. At 19 years, he moved containers of tin (solid mineral) to the US. Fenandez, who George W. Bush called the ambassador of extra-ordinary ambassadors. Fernandez, who was the finance Minister and Economic coordinator of another African country apart from Nigeria, and the country had to make him a citizenship. Fenendez, the owner of one of the most productive gold mining and refinery center in Africa. Fenandez, the Oluwo of the Ogboni fraternity.

At the later part of his life, he moved to Belgium. And what amazed me was that Pastor Tunde Bakare was at his burial ceremony in Brussel at the front row of the church service, and was beside his wife during interment. Hahahhaa! Is the Oluwo's body not that of the Ogboni? They are always buried in Naija. And the fraternity makes it a big ceremony. Their Oluwo's funeral ceremony in a foreign land? Fernandez is the first I heard of. The body must be brought to Nigeria. His heart (physical) belongs to them. And there are rights to be performed. But who am I to judge. Maybe they have flown there to perform whatever they suppose do. But here is my point, do not judge. There is a mystery there.

There is a friend who asked me to confirm if tales about human beings who turn to cats and birds at night are true. She wants to know about Benin City, as she is always reading on nairaland about these strange tales. I was trying to look at the best way to explain the little I know about the subject, but I realised that she is always eager to argue that it is unreal. I was not even saying it is real. I have not taking my position at all. And recently. She was saying I do not want to discuss the subject. She is right, i do not want to discuss it because she is too forward and it is hard to have a good conversation with someone like that. I was patient to see if a day will come when she is calm that I can say the little I know. But as soon as I mention anything along the line, it always turn to religious argument and debate? Who has time for yelling about such topics. A beg, make a go use my time do more productive things. My people perish because of lack of knowledge. #ByeByeToFoolishnessAndCrazyArguments

I have spoken, and I will not return to explain, elaborate, or debate anything with you.

Let me shock you. Even a few Athiests know how to medidate. And it is why they sound very sure of what they say. When they say there is no God, they have a reason they say so. I am not an Atheist, and I do not judge them. In fact, I always have good conversation with Athiests better than religious people.

I like how Aristotle put forward the "unmoved mover". And I believe Thomas Aquinas did justice to the subject.

I wish you best of luck in your pursuit. But do not go and injure yourself. Stay safe.

ginika638:
Just Stop this rubbish! There is no spiritual warfare anywhere.I am your God.

Obakuso:



Gods and slaves.

Walamu:
Witchcraft is dangerous. Demons are dangerous entities.

I do not want to quote you, but I will point out some facts, and correct you.

1. You wrote and I quote you:
"If you go to any of the original, undiluted, African spiritual energies, such as Sango, to make a request, the Deity or Sango, would give you conditions to fulfill there and then. You would not have to go home and come back for Sango's response, and if you meet the conditions set, Sango would oblige you with your request. It is as simple as that and it could happen within minutes of your request.

If, on the other hand, you go to the diluted or adapted spiritual energies like the Christian and Islamic Yahweh, to table a request, you don't get an answer right away. In fact, you could be talking to a brick wall. You keep praying, begging and fasting, hoping that someone is listening."

Who told you that you do not get instant result when you choose the christian or moslim path? Hmmm!

A portion of the book of Christains says, broad is the way which leads to destruction, but narrow is the way which leads to life. It quotes Jesus and says "My sheep know my voice". My brother there are many people in religion, but very few people in living a "way of life". Narrow is the way which leads to life.

Religion is a tool in the hands of the master of this world. Christianity, Islam, Hindu, etc are all religion. Religion traps. It enslaves. Even Sango worshopping which you praised so well is a kind of religion too. How dear you say recklessly that "thunder fire you" when Sango was still active in those days? Even a foreigner was pissed of with me because I annoyed her, and she said "thunder fires my enemy (not me)". I had to explain what the phrase really meant. She later said "Oh My God! I am sorry dear. I thought it is just a slang because it is common phrase on nairaland". So, can you see how that Shango which you portray so powerful is presently a common commodity on nairaland to the extent foreigners play with the god of thunder who used to spit fire out of his mouth? Who born anyone well to joke with the god of thunder in those days?

Hmmm! We all saw the video of one governor's unclothedness while swearing oath in a shrine in the eastern part of Nigeria some years back (I will not mention any name). But that governor later violated the sworn oath, and the only way they got at him was to show his unclothedness online. Why cannot that god of "okirija" or whatever the name is called killed the governor, and they had to take his unclothedness to the world to destroy his reputation? And was the governor really remorseful? Lol. Of course not. The man just dey do his thing dey go. And even with the swearing, that man still dey pull babes up and down. Do you want to tell me the girls the man dey pull up and down were not aware of the so called covenant he had taking?

Let us look at the yahoo boys. If you really want to get first hand information, go to twitter and not nairaland. You will read tweets about pastors and imams, and not only traditional priests assisting yahoo boys with spiritual powers. Who told you that what they give them do not work or works? Do you have any confirmation?

Here is my point - only few know the way of life. Those few know how to reach God. If you understand this concept, you will realise that those traditional people always say that it is the same God we serve. Only christians and maybe moslims say that no no no and that their God/god is different from other's. But let me tell you, there is a similarity with those who know the way of life. Religion is just to enslave.

Number one similarity is that those who know the way of life travel in the spirit. That is what you called witchcraft. I agree that they travel, but that is not the only way. Anyone can travel. The good and bad, the beautiful and ugly, all travel. They are few these days. And it is why deception is numerous out there. The Bible says that at the near end of this world, there will be lovers of money and many fake prophets. This is what is happening.

But when you meet a real man of God who is filled with the spirit of God, you will get instant answer. The funny thing is that you hardly hear their names out there. Do you think Pastor Adeboye does not have people he still consults? Or the bilionaire Bishop Oyedepo too? See, the Bible says my people perish because of lack of wisdom. There are still very few old babas we do not know who are in their 80s, 90s, or above that the Adeboyes and Oyedepos acknowledge as powerful people. I am not saying they go there to collect powers ooo. Do not misquote me as I am not ready for religious debate as the members of their churches wil come out to defend what they do not know, or start saying what I have not said. I am not here to argue with anyone.

When Elijah ran for his life because Jezebel killed all God's prophets. Oh! So thought Elijah. But God told him that he has in reservation a huge number of prophets who had not bowed down for Baal. There are few unknown silent powerful people who are christians and moslims.

You wrote that christians do not get instant answers. A dey laugh at your ignorance. If you want to try what I am saying, just be bold. Book an appointment with Dr. Daniel K. Olukoya of MFM, or even with his right hand man Pastor Kehinde. Go there with the god of whatever you have and try your power. If you return home, it is the mercy of God. I repeat, try your power with Olukoya and come and testify here that you defeated him. This is practical. Do you hear me? I mentioned Dr. Olukoya because you specifically pointed out christianity.

Have you ever heard Olukoya talks about politics and who is to be crowned the king of Aso Rock, or how to buy private jet? Go pick his books, they are enveloped with prayer points for unlocking, binding, winning in the spiritual world.

Let me close by saying that one common attribute with any powerful man whether he is a christian, moslim, sango, obatala, hindu, jumbo, crambo, marmon, eckankar, shango, obatala, yoga, memkrabolistikola , or whatever religion you call it is that they are silent. And they meditate deeply. What they medidate on is what differenciates them from one another. Think about it. Think well.

If you want to know what meditation is, visit a yoga center.

They move into the realm of the spirit during meditation. How? Man is made up of body, soul, and spirit. Your spirit man is the real you, connected by your soul to your physical body. How can anyone in the body connect to the spirit? The soul is the answer. A line of thought of a group of theologians says the soul comprises of the mind, thought and emotion. This is where everything happens. When you feed your mind (soul) with what can make you travel in the spirit, and you medidate deeply in it, off you go. So, what do you feed your mind on? All these people meet in the spirit realm.

Many materials out there. Many ways out there. Moslims have theirs, so also christians, hindus. Even Asians medidate more than any continent. Think about yoga again. You think say na joke? Just be careful of what you read and meditate on, and the approach you decide to take if you want to be powerful. It is a delicate and dangerous adventure. You get it wrong, though you travel in the spirit world, your soul can be condemned eternally.

There are powers, but there is a power which is above all powers. It is your duty to find this power. The power that is above all powers. Yes! Other powers can enable you fly, dance, kill, eat, or do whatsoever in the spirit..but there is a power which is above all powers. In order not to stir up religious conflicts here, let us stop here.

There is something which amazed me some few years back. We all know who the late Chief Dehinde Fenandez was. At 19 years, he moved containers of tin (solid mineral) to the US. Fenandez, who George W. Bush called the ambassador of extra-ordinary ambassadors. Fernandez, who was the finance Minister and Economic coordinator of another African country apart from Nigeria, and the country had to make him a citizenship. Fenendez, the owner of one of the most productive gold mining and refinery center in Africa. Fenandez, the Oluwo of the Ogboni fraternity.

At the later part of his life, he moved to Belgium. And what amazed me was that Pastor Tunde Bakare was at his burial ceremony in Brussel at the front row of the church service, and was beside his wife during interment. Hahahhaa! Is the Oluwo's body not that of the Ogboni? They are always buried in Naija. And the fraternity makes it a big ceremony. Their Oluwo's funeral ceremony in a foreign land? Fernandez is the first I heard of. The body must be brought to Nigeria. His heart (physical) belongs to them. And there are rights to be performed. But who am I to judge. Maybe they have flown there to perform whatever they suppose do. But here is my point, do not judge. There is a mystery there.

There is a friend who asked me to confirm if tales about human beings who turn to cats and birds at night are true. She wants to know about Benin City, as she is always reading on nairaland about these strange tales. I was trying to look at the best way to explain the little I know about the subject, but I realised that she is always eager to argue that it is unreal. I was not even saying it is real. I have not taking my position at all. And recently. She was saying I do not want to discuss the subject. She is right, i do not want to discuss it because she is too forward and it is hard to have a good conversation with someone like that. I was patient to see if a day will come when she is calm that I can say the little I know. But as soon as I mention anything along the line, it always turn to religious argument and debate? Who has time for yelling about such topics. A beg, make a go use my time do more productive things. My people perish because of lack of knowledge. #ByeByeToFoolishnessAndCrazyArguments

I have spoken, and I will not return to explain, elaborate, or debate anything with you.

Let me shock you. Even a few Athiests know how to medidate. And it is why they sound very sure of what they say. When they say there is no God, they have a reason they say so. I am not an Atheist, and I do not judge them. In fact, I always have good conversation with Athiests better than religious people.

I like how Aristotle put forward the "unmoved mover". And I believe Thomas Aquinas did justice to the subject.

I wish you best of luck in your pursuit. But do not go and injure yourself. Stay safe.

OShepherd:
Hmmmmmm! What an eye opening information! Truely information is power!

Walamu:
Sango is the cult of Kingship. The Lion means the Lineage, father to son creates a dynasty, the line, as the male lion urinates to warn other lions of his territory. Failure to do so might invite other male lions for all out war. The lioness is the Her-itage, the women hold the cultural heritage of a people. It is from the lioness the cubs learn to be lions.


A Confrontation between two eternal African enemies, Lions and Hyenas, With a Dramatic Ending. A magnificent Wildlife scene.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pda4zULB3EA

Walamu:
The Earth is positively flat.