Re: Afenifere, Ohaneze, NEF, Others Slam Buhari Over Anti-Rule Of Law Comment by Festy4u(m): 9:58am On Aug 31, 2018 |
It will amaze you that buhari is being cautioned by his contemporaries while people of younger age bracket for sake of BMC stipends here present on NL keep fooling themselves in support of this usurper! ![undecided](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/undecided.png) |
Re: Afenifere, Ohaneze, NEF, Others Slam Buhari Over Anti-Rule Of Law Comment by Nobody: 9:58am On Aug 31, 2018 |
omodave: Nigeria will be great again. That's all I HV to say.. Have it been great before? |
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Re: Afenifere, Ohaneze, NEF, Others Slam Buhari Over Anti-Rule Of Law Comment by lastempero: 10:01am On Aug 31, 2018 |
Let's stop slamming rather start thinking and taking actions just like the 5% that didn't wait for Ohaneze or any yeye group to come n tell them whom to vote because they knew a leopard cannot change. |
Re: Afenifere, Ohaneze, NEF, Others Slam Buhari Over Anti-Rule Of Law Comment by aksule(m): 10:04am On Aug 31, 2018 |
Reading this piece tells me why some African leaders stayed in power for decades and still being voted or in short selected to continue . Do l need to say more. More of this type of reasoning will gradually take us to that height. |
Re: Afenifere, Ohaneze, NEF, Others Slam Buhari Over Anti-Rule Of Law Comment by Minjim: 10:04am On Aug 31, 2018 |
iammo: National interest and national security are two different things. while a nation can suspend human right and the rule of law for national security especially invasion from external forces, international rule of engagement must be followed to avoid sanctions. However National Interest doesn't give right to violate human right and rule of law If a tyrant is in govt, the people will not support is definition of may National Interest but when someone that the people elected and loved is in govt his definition of National Interest will be at per with the people's. That was why most Americans agreed with the killing if Osama |
Re: Afenifere, Ohaneze, NEF, Others Slam Buhari Over Anti-Rule Of Law Comment by lastempero: 10:07am On Aug 31, 2018 |
PVision2020: Even in advance democracy, the national security supersedes the rule of law. Under which rule of law was Osama Bin Laden Murdered? CIA published names of assumed terrorists and place bounty on their head to get them dead or alive without referring to any rule of law. Under which rule of law were Guatanamo (and several others) inmates incarcerated? Obama campaigned that he was going to close down Guatanamo bay but was treated with the reality by the service chiefs when he assumed office. Under which rule of law did Mossad (Israeli secret forces) and CIA etc carry out several extrajudicial killings? Killing nuclear scientist, assumed terrorists, political leaders etc. Under which rule of law did Western nations use in causing unrest and usurping powers in other nations? Not every issue of national import can be discuss in the court room and that's why every nation have their CLASSIFIED INFORMATION. There are still 20th century informations that are still classified in the US. It takes more than being a Mr Nice Guy to rule a nation. I know it'll be very hard to draw the middle line between supremacy of the national interest and dictatorship, that's the reason why we need to elect a president with good antecedents that we can trust with several clandestine decision. But their was never a case where innocent journalists where incaserated without access to their family and lawyers as it's in the case of the bayelsa journalist and others still in different detention centres across the nation. |
Re: Afenifere, Ohaneze, NEF, Others Slam Buhari Over Anti-Rule Of Law Comment by Nobody: 10:07am On Aug 31, 2018 |
PVision2020: Even in advance democracy, the national security supersedes the rule of law. Under which rule of law was Osama Bin Laden Murdered? CIA published names of assumed terrorists and place bounty on their head to get them dead or alive without referring to any rule of law. Under which rule of law were Guatanamo (and several others) inmates incarcerated? Obama campaigned that he was going to close down Guatanamo bay but was treated with the reality by the service chiefs when he assumed office. Under which rule of law did Mossad (Israeli secret forces) and CIA etc carry out several extrajudicial killings? Killing nuclear scientist, assumed terrorists, political leaders etc. Under which rule of law did Western nations use in causing unrest and usurping powers in other nations? Not every issue of national import can be discuss in the court room and that's why every nation have their CLASSIFIED INFORMATION. There are still 20th century informations that are still classified in the US. It takes more than being a Mr Nice Guy to rule a nation. I know it'll be very hard to draw the middle line between supremacy of the national interest and dictatorship, that's the reason why we need to elect a president with good antecedents that we can trust with several clandestine decision. In same advance countries, NGO’s are allowed their full statutory right to partake in human rights violations, thereby allowing its citizens to determine what National security is, not the president. That is simply abuse of power 1 Like |
Re: Afenifere, Ohaneze, NEF, Others Slam Buhari Over Anti-Rule Of Law Comment by engrelvis(m): 10:07am On Aug 31, 2018 |
PVision2020: Even in advance democracy, the national security supersedes the rule of law. Under which rule of law was Osama Bin Laden Murdered? CIA published names of assumed terrorists and place bounty on their head to get them dead or alive without referring to any rule of law. Under which rule of law were Guatanamo (and several others) inmates incarcerated? Obama campaigned that he was going to close down Guatanamo bay but was treated with the reality by the service chiefs when he assumed office. Under which rule of law did Mossad (Israeli secret forces) and CIA etc carry out several extrajudicial killings? Killing nuclear scientist, assumed terrorists, political leaders etc. Under which rule of law did Western nations use in causing unrest and usurping powers in other nations? Not every issue of national import can be discuss in the court room and that's why every nation have their CLASSIFIED INFORMATION. There are still 20th century informations that are still classified in the US. It takes more than being a Mr Nice Guy to rule a nation. I know it'll be very hard to draw the middle line between supremacy of the national interest and dictatorship, that's the reason why we need to elect a president with good antecedents that we can trust with several clandestine decision. dnt mind these clueless people.if dey know what US n Russia deos to maintain their tight securities dey will shiver |
Re: Afenifere, Ohaneze, NEF, Others Slam Buhari Over Anti-Rule Of Law Comment by PVision2020(m): 10:07am On Aug 31, 2018 |
Just2endowed2:
oga have we gotten to this level that buhari will now be claiming dictatorship n highest tyranny in the country?
Have any ameriacn citizen in american soil be subject to osama bin laden treatment?
we are talking about individual right as a citizen which the court have to judge and decide Oga Osama Bin Laden was an American citizen. There are lot of American citizens (not necessarily indegenes) in Guantanamo and several other high security risk prisons and dungeons without any court sentencing them. And mind you, fundamental human right is universal and exclusive of Americans alone. All men are created equal and their is equality before the law. 1 Like |
Re: Afenifere, Ohaneze, NEF, Others Slam Buhari Over Anti-Rule Of Law Comment by SalamRushdie: 10:08am On Aug 31, 2018 |
Ridwanna: Strictly respecting rule of law in this Nation will not make us grow faster. with the state of our Judiciary, rule of law should sometime be trampled on.
Are you for real? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Afenifere, Ohaneze, NEF, Others Slam Buhari Over Anti-Rule Of Law Comment by milemimi93(m): 10:11am On Aug 31, 2018 |
Britishcoins: [s]Buhari is a mad, oya come and arrest me, in short Buhari is foolish and lifeless. [/s] |
Re: Afenifere, Ohaneze, NEF, Others Slam Buhari Over Anti-Rule Of Law Comment by PVision2020(m): 10:11am On Aug 31, 2018 |
engrelvis: dnt mind these clueless people.if dey know what US n Russia deos to maintain their tight securities dey will shiver I tell you, they should ask Israel what it meant to be a nation. They thought being a president is all about the paparazzi that they see on TV and their eloquent speech. Nice guys don't make good president... selah 1 Like |
Re: Afenifere, Ohaneze, NEF, Others Slam Buhari Over Anti-Rule Of Law Comment by iammo(m): 10:12am On Aug 31, 2018 |
Minjim:
If a tyrant is in govt, the people will not support is definition of may National Interest but when someone that the people elected and loved is in govt his definition of National Interest will be at per with the people's.
That was why most Americans agreed with the killing if Osama well I agree to some extent, but the bin laden case is strictly national security, and it is on foreign soil which means US rule of law was technically not violated, Pakistan where bin laden was killed never filled a violation to any international court for its illegal invassion, Pakistan and US has a treaty on secuirity |
Re: Afenifere, Ohaneze, NEF, Others Slam Buhari Over Anti-Rule Of Law Comment by RurouniKenshin: 10:13am On Aug 31, 2018 |
PVision2020: Even in advance democracy, the national security supersedes the rule of law. Under which rule of law was Osama Bin Laden Murdered? CIA published names of assumed terrorists and place bounty on their head to get them dead or alive without referring to any rule of law. Under which rule of law were Guatanamo (and several others) inmates incarcerated? Obama campaigned that he was going to close down Guatanamo bay but was treated with the reality by the service chiefs when he assumed office. Under which rule of law did Mossad (Israeli secret forces) and CIA etc carry out several extrajudicial killings? Killing nuclear scientist, assumed terrorists, political leaders etc. Under which rule of law did Western nations use in causing unrest and usurping powers in other nations? Not every issue of national import can be discuss in the court room and that's why every nation have their CLASSIFIED INFORMATION. There are still 20th century informations that are still classified in the US. It takes more than being a Mr Nice Guy to rule a nation. I know it'll be very hard to draw the middle line between supremacy of the national interest and dictatorship, that's the reason why we need to elect a president with good antecedents that we can trust with several clandestine decision. This is lifeless talk. Who then determines what goes as national interests? Buhari? National interests is not a one man show. |
Re: Afenifere, Ohaneze, NEF, Others Slam Buhari Over Anti-Rule Of Law Comment by RurouniKenshin: 10:13am On Aug 31, 2018 |
SalamRushdie:
Are you for real? Obviously. These guys are getting more demented daily. 3 Likes |
Re: Afenifere, Ohaneze, NEF, Others Slam Buhari Over Anti-Rule Of Law Comment by HomeOfMe(f): 10:14am On Aug 31, 2018 |
phase1: Politicians are usually very ruthless during their second tenure because they have nothing to lose and no longer need your vote. Buhari takes that ruthlessness to another level as a tyranmic dictator. If buhari gets a second tenure. He will...
- Be very ruthless with the media, many journalists will be either jailed or killed.
- He will clamp down on social media, and take away the only voice the people have to say the truth to power.
- Bye Bye to your freedom of Information and expression.
- State sponsored gestapo-styled assasinations will be the other of day. Buhari hates the judiciary and thinks the courts are useless. He believes in arbitrary arrest, detention and extrajudicial killing by the executioners in the executive.
- Nigerians will gnash their teeth in 2019 if buhari wins again.
That's my fear. The second term will be very ruthless-no mercy even to the people supporting and massaging his ego now I'm afraid. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Afenifere, Ohaneze, NEF, Others Slam Buhari Over Anti-Rule Of Law Comment by PVision2020(m): 10:16am On Aug 31, 2018 |
eddiebruk:
In same advance countries, NGO’s are allowed their full statutory right to partake in human rights violations, thereby allowing its citizens to determine what National security is, not the president. That is simply abuse of power where is Amnesty Intl and other NGO's when USA and other powerful nations violated Human Rights in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan etc. Where are they when Israel occupied West bank and Gaza, and when mossad carried out their several assassinsation. You guys know little about intl politics and security. 1 Like |
Re: Afenifere, Ohaneze, NEF, Others Slam Buhari Over Anti-Rule Of Law Comment by DrTonitee(m): 10:19am On Aug 31, 2018 |
PVision2020: Even in advance democracy, the national security supersedes the rule of law. Under which rule of law was Osama Bin Laden Murdered? CIA published names of assumed terrorists and place bounty on their head to get them dead or alive without referring to any rule of law. Under which rule of law were Guatanamo (and several others) inmates incarcerated? Obama campaigned that he was going to close down Guatanamo bay but was treated with the reality by the service chiefs when he assumed office. Under which rule of law did Mossad (Israeli secret forces) and CIA etc carry out several extrajudicial killings? Killing nuclear scientist, assumed terrorists, political leaders etc. Under which rule of law did Western nations use in causing unrest and usurping powers in other nations? Not every issue of national import can be discuss in the court room and that's why every nation have their CLASSIFIED INFORMATION. There are still 20th century informations that are still classified in the US. It takes more than being a Mr Nice Guy to rule a nation. I know it'll be very hard to draw the middle line between supremacy of the national interest and dictatorship, that's the reason why we need to elect a president with good antecedents that we can trust with several clandestine decision. If you were smart enough you would have noticed that none of the examples you cited were against their own citizens. But,last last,common sense is not common after all. |
Re: Afenifere, Ohaneze, NEF, Others Slam Buhari Over Anti-Rule Of Law Comment by pacespot(m): 10:19am On Aug 31, 2018 |
PVision2020: Even in advance democracy, the national security supersedes the rule of law. Under which rule of law was Osama Bin Laden Murdered? CIA published names of assumed terrorists and place bounty on their head to get them dead or alive without referring to any rule of law. Under which rule of law were Guatanamo (and several others) inmates incarcerated? Obama campaigned that he was going to close down Guatanamo bay but was treated with the reality by the service chiefs when he assumed office. Under which rule of law did Mossad (Israeli secret forces) and CIA etc carry out several extrajudicial killings? Killing nuclear scientist, assumed terrorists, political leaders etc. Under which rule of law did Western nations use in causing unrest and usurping powers in other nations? Not every issue of national import can be discuss in the court room and that's why every nation have their CLASSIFIED INFORMATION. There are still 20th century informations that are still classified in the US. It takes more than being a Mr Nice Guy to rule a nation. I know it'll be very hard to draw the middle line between supremacy of the national interest and dictatorship, that's the reason why we need to elect a president with good antecedents that we can trust with several clandestine decision. Thank you for this apt explanation. Nigerian elder statesmen or Nigerian looters hating the anti looting regime in government. If America should follow the Rule of Law, Donald Trump would have impeached long before now. Nigerian elder hypocrites trying to quote laws that they too are breaking on a daily basis. 1 Like |
Re: Afenifere, Ohaneze, NEF, Others Slam Buhari Over Anti-Rule Of Law Comment by PVision2020(m): 10:21am On Aug 31, 2018 |
lastempero:
But their was never a case where innocent journalists where incaserated without access to their family and lawyers as it's in the case of the bayelsa journalist and others still in different detention centres across the nation. Ask the Wiki leaks guy why he has refuse to enter America and why US allies have refuse to grant him assylum. The problem with Nigeria is our DSS is archaic and obsolete unlike this western nations that carries out their operations without leaving a trace. 1 Like |
Re: Afenifere, Ohaneze, NEF, Others Slam Buhari Over Anti-Rule Of Law Comment by HomeOfMe(f): 10:22am On Aug 31, 2018 |
gurunlocker: Once a dictator, always a dictator...... Once dull, forever dull.
See rubbish talk from the number 1 citizen, I won't be surprised if his NL resident zombies still defend him. Z0mbies can kill their own parents,siblings and children to support their master. Google the definition. What we need in Nigeria at the moment is a revolution;it's about time. But corruption won't let it happen. People who slam you in the open,then go behind,collect some brown envelope and change tune. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Afenifere, Ohaneze, NEF, Others Slam Buhari Over Anti-Rule Of Law Comment by Iziquiel(m): 10:23am On Aug 31, 2018 |
iammo: National interest and national security are two different things. while a nation can suspend human right and the rule of law for national security especially invasion from external forces, international rule of engagement must be followed to avoid sanctions. However National Interest doesn't give right to violate human right and rule of law Does human right give you the right to threaten the national security of your country? Threatening to seize state power, burn the country to ashes, cut off the head of your president, or deliberately siphoning money meant to procure arms and ammunition to fight insurgency, hoisting the flag of a virtual state within a sovereign state . The truth is, there must be exceptions to every law. People should not commit crimes then hide under the rule of law (human rights) after all, Osama had human rights too and we could say he was unlawfully killed. No sane country would sit while it's national security is threatened.. 1 Like |
Re: Afenifere, Ohaneze, NEF, Others Slam Buhari Over Anti-Rule Of Law Comment by excel4us: 10:23am On Aug 31, 2018 |
PVision2020: Even in advance democracy, the national security supersedes the rule of law. Under which rule of law was Osama Bin Laden Murdered? CIA published names of assumed terrorists and place bounty on their head to get them dead or alive without referring to any rule of law. Under which rule of law were Guatanamo (and several others) inmates incarcerated? Obama campaigned that he was going to close down Guatanamo bay but was treated with the reality by the service chiefs when he assumed office. Under which rule of law did Mossad (Israeli secret forces) and CIA etc carry out several extrajudicial killings? Killing nuclear scientist, assumed terrorists, political leaders etc. Under which rule of law did Western nations use in causing unrest and usurping powers in other nations? Not every issue of national import can be discuss in the court room and that's why every nation have their CLASSIFIED INFORMATION. There are still 20th century informations that are still classified in the US. It takes more than being a Mr Nice Guy to rule a nation. I know it'll be very hard to draw the middle line between supremacy of the national interest and dictatorship, that's the reason why we need to elect a president with good antecedents that we can trust with several clandestine decision. Iberibe 1 Like |
Re: Afenifere, Ohaneze, NEF, Others Slam Buhari Over Anti-Rule Of Law Comment by Nobody: 10:24am On Aug 31, 2018 |
PVision2020:
where is Amnesty Intl and other NGO's when USA and other powerful nations violated Human Rights in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan etc. Where are they when Israel occupied West bank and Gaza, and when mossad carried out their several assassinsation. You guys know little about intl politics and security. You are being judgmental of a situation you know nothing about, US will not violate those countries if the UN Security Council does not give them the go ahead, and there was a limit to their actions, all Nigerians want is to allow same, but the Nigerian Government has decided to do the jobs of NGO’s, the court and the International community. So please educate yourself about international politics before you display your lack of what due process entails. 1 Like |
Re: Afenifere, Ohaneze, NEF, Others Slam Buhari Over Anti-Rule Of Law Comment by excel4us: 10:26am On Aug 31, 2018 |
now na morning |
Re: Afenifere, Ohaneze, NEF, Others Slam Buhari Over Anti-Rule Of Law Comment by PVision2020(m): 10:26am On Aug 31, 2018 |
DrTonitee:
If you were smart enough you would have noticed that none of the examples you cited were against their own citizens. But,last last,common sense is not common after all. Mr Uncommon sense Osama Bin Laden was a US citizen just like several other terrorist (not necessarily indigenes). Your common sense fail to tell you that fundamental human rights is universal and not for US citizens alone. US can kill people of other nationalities but protect only theirs right? lol The cardinal tenets of law states that all are equal before the law, Mr Uncommon sense. 1 Like |
Re: Afenifere, Ohaneze, NEF, Others Slam Buhari Over Anti-Rule Of Law Comment by namio10: 10:27am On Aug 31, 2018 |
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Re: Afenifere, Ohaneze, NEF, Others Slam Buhari Over Anti-Rule Of Law Comment by deebsman1(m): 10:28am On Aug 31, 2018 |
All this old elites doesn't know there time and relevance has expired. Kari go Sai Baba
In Fela's voice, the same old politicians wey spoil Nigeria before.......... |
Re: Afenifere, Ohaneze, NEF, Others Slam Buhari Over Anti-Rule Of Law Comment by KadunaMafia: 10:29am On Aug 31, 2018 |
Ridwanna: Strictly respecting rule of law in this Nation will not make us grow faster. with the state of our Judiciary, rule of law should sometime be trampled on.
you lack brain cells or you are a toddler 1 Like |
Re: Afenifere, Ohaneze, NEF, Others Slam Buhari Over Anti-Rule Of Law Comment by iammo(m): 10:29am On Aug 31, 2018 |
Iziquiel:
Does human right give you the right to threaten the national security of your country? Threatening to seize state power, burn the country to ashes, cut off the head of your president, or deliberately siphoning money meant to procure arms and ammunition to fight insurgency, hoisting the flag of a virtual state within a sovereign state . The truth is, there must be exceptions to every law. People should not commit crimes then hide under the rule of law (human rights) after all, Osama had human rights too and we could say he was unlawfully killed. No sane country would sit while it's national security is threatened.. a sane country would rather enact a more serious law. take its affairs before a competent judge within its jurisdiction rather than unlawful detention. as for bin laden a competent court already pronounced him a wanted Terrorists, and he was killed outside US law Jurisdictions, its left to the Pakistani government to press charges on US government if it feels the invasion was out of the initial security treaty and bilateral agreements 1 Like |
Re: Afenifere, Ohaneze, NEF, Others Slam Buhari Over Anti-Rule Of Law Comment by Mttambi: 10:30am On Aug 31, 2018 |
PVision2020: Even in advance democracy, the national security supersedes the rule of law. Under which rule of law was Osama Bin Laden Murdered? CIA published names of assumed terrorists and place bounty on their head to get them dead or alive without referring to any rule of law. Under which rule of law were Guatanamo (and several others) inmates incarcerated? Obama campaigned that he was going to close down Guatanamo bay but was treated with the reality by the service chiefs when he assumed office. Under which rule of law did Mossad (Israeli secret forces) and CIA etc carry out several extrajudicial killings? Killing nuclear scientist, assumed terrorists, political leaders etc. Under which rule of law did Western nations use in causing unrest and usurping powers in other nations? Not every issue of national import can be discuss in the court room and that's why every nation have their CLASSIFIED INFORMATION. There are still 20th century informations that are still classified in the US. It takes more than being a Mr Nice Guy to rule a nation. I know it'll be very hard to draw the middle line between supremacy of the national interest and dictatorship, that's the reason why we need to elect a president with good antecedents that we can trust with several clandestine decision. Can you point to any of such operations as you mentioned above on American soil? You need a FISA court approval/warrant to even spy on an American. Kindly research on the controversy surrounding the four applications to secure a FISA warrant to spy on Carter Page as clear evidence that individuals rights under the law is something America never takes lightly. Follow muller Probe and you will see how America respects the rights of its citizens. This issue should be non-partisan. Irrespective of who is president; we should make sure the rule of law is sacrosanct!!! |