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Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by Fatherofdragons: 12:11pm On Sep 03, 2018
MYHUBBY:
it's now I know PDP are serious to win 2019 election

you can't zoned PDP chairmanship to ss and expect them to zone vp to ss again

as for SE okorocha, ouk are the only politicians that are loved most out of their region with the liberal politics they adopted which other SE leaders lacks, umahi tried to adopt that too but the cry of igbos that he's associating with buhari caged his political extension out of east


having said that, there is no how PDP can win sw if they don't pick VP from southwest, just because they maintained VP in the incumbent govt. you don't expect them to vote for non southwesterners and leave their own behind but now that PDP special adviser had successfully advised them it's a win win for PDP and southwest in general


now APC would start getting scared now that PDP have their candidate zoned to the same area APC candidate came from.


at the end in 2019 southwest has nothing to loose. this is what I called foresight politics
SE not SS
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by gurnam: 12:12pm On Sep 03, 2018
dejol88:
Wrong move for PDP should SE not get VP slot.it may interest PDP that most votes coming in from SW as opposition are predominantly from igbos. Any miscalculation that lead to igbos to leave pdp would naturally become a plus to APC
This thinking has always been PDP thinking and hence their constant miscalculation in the SW.

It took 2 months to the election in 2015 for GEJ to realize that this is not true and the desperation in the last few days to the election shuttling from one place to another place in Yorubaland.

If you want to test your hypothesis, pour all your votes to APGA and you will see your voting strength is completely insignificant in the SW, a lesson that GEJ and Agbaje learnt the hard way
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by ORIENTATION101: 12:13pm On Sep 03, 2018
Emycord:
seems you think they have now become non igbo cos they are staying outside igbo land or that they must vote apc or even vote at all as much as they are off igbo land. well you may need to buy sense cos it seems the one you borrowed has been retrieved by the owner. so pls buy some sense to keep it permanent. or at most you can grow some sense using locally sourced materials
does their votes accrue to south east??
Whoever the igbos in yorubaland voted for either pdp or apc .
southwest region is the beneficiary of the votes politically.maybe you need to brain transplant to figure it out

Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by XaviDayo(m): 12:13pm On Sep 03, 2018
PDP needs to get a VP from the South East. Failure to do this will turn catastrophic. Out with the dullard inshaAllah
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by ORIENTATION101: 12:14pm On Sep 03, 2018
XaviDayo:
PDP needs to get a VP from the South East. Failure to do this will turn catastrophic. Out with the dullard inshaAllah
5%

Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by Neoteny(m): 12:17pm On Sep 03, 2018
excanny:
How easy will it be for a small group as the Ebira to fukkc all day and outnumber a large group as the Yorubas?

This is why I called your intelligence into question.

To even out population takes centuries if not impossible sef, except the large group experiences some natural disaster or an epidemic that lead to large loss in population.
Earlier you mentioned regional population, now you've downsized to tribal groups.

Electoral college is designed to address the situation where large states such as California can lord it over smaller ones such as Connecticut or Rhode Island.

Doesn't say anything about African Americans or Mexican Americans or Asian Americans or white Americans.
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by babadee1(m): 12:18pm On Sep 03, 2018
krendo:
How can you pick a vp when you have not picked the President?
They are not picking a VP. It's called zoning.
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by Enice(m): 12:20pm On Sep 03, 2018
What do SEners expect! Playing with a viper like Wike. Wike positioned Secondus for one reason and one reason only, to become the VP nominee for PDP. Any aspirant of PDP that wins the presidential ticket will field Wike as running mate. Quote me anywhere.
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by Fatherofdragons: 12:25pm On Sep 03, 2018
Enice:
What do SEners expect! Playing with a viper like Wike. Wike positioned Secondus for one reason and one reason only, to become the VP nominee for PDP. Any aspirant of PDP that wins the presidential ticket will field Wike as running mate. Quote me anywhere.
wike kwa? he is coming back for a second term in rivers state, how will he now become the VP?
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by excanny: 12:25pm On Sep 03, 2018
Neoteny:
Earlier you mentioned regional population, now you've downsized to tribal groups.

Electoral college is designed to address the situation where large states such as California can lord it over smaller ones such as Connecticut or Rhode Island.

Doesn't say anything about African Americans or Mexican Americans or Asian Americans or white Americans.
I only used an analogy.

The North West and South West and maybe now the South South have the huge influx populations to Lord it over other zones.

Each zone having an equal number of delegates to vote for president will put an end to these zoning of slots in Nigeria to an end.

People will concentrate on nominating the best delegates for their zone.
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by Jaideyone(m): 12:33pm On Sep 03, 2018
zlantanfan:
We will not take this!
Igbo have always been pdp, how can Yoruba get vp from both apc and pdp?
We sacrificed apga for this crumbs

Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by XaviDayo(m): 12:34pm On Sep 03, 2018
ORIENTATION101:
5%
You had me laffing Sha. Na real 5%. Hahahahaha
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by famosh: 12:35pm On Sep 03, 2018
IbrahimDamola:
The report doesn't sound watertight. If PDP can't consolidate on their hold in the East by picking an Easterner as VP, then they've nailed their own coffin with their own hands.

The East is the most literate part of the country and will give PDP a bloody nose if their support is taken for granted. They are not daft.

I suspect some elements working for APC within PDP wants to push them to make the mistake of sidelining the East and then allow them to crumble. Easterners are not zombies oo.
The gorilla descendants are actually the daftest zombies! Even the PDP know, & that's why they want to take them for a ride!
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by tuoyoojo(m): 12:38pm On Sep 03, 2018
let us put sentiments asides

I wish the ibos would behave like the northerns when it comes to elections

when its time to vote u would see the old bent barely able to see old woman come to vote,
they are not on the Internet ranting, they get their pcvs and do the needful with them

nobody in this country has achieved much by boycotting elections. it only goes to validate how political irrelevant the one is.

the damage has been done,its time to change the narrative, come out enmass and vote, show other regions that u r a force that cannot be overlooked

so when its time to demand for development and placement in juicy positions , when u guys sneeze other regions would catch cold

this is the plain truth
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by mfm04622: 12:38pm On Sep 03, 2018
Mynd44:
If Saraki wins the primary, it will be silly to pick a SW VP. They will have to go to the SS if the reports of this article is true.

But if Atiku wins, I guess Gbenga Daniels will be on his way to be his running mate
Please keep up! The PDP Presidential ticket has been zoned to the North-West, while the VP ticket is between SS and SW. Saraki is out of the picture already. The VP ticket is between Wike (SS) and others.
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by mfm04622: 12:40pm On Sep 03, 2018
Fatherofdragons:
wike kwa? he is coming back for a second term in rivers state, how will he now become the VP?
His ambition is the VP slot, failing that, then the gubernatorial slot
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by objobj: 12:42pm On Sep 03, 2018
olaboy33:
So PDP still makes use of Wadata Plaza as its headquarters...

What happened to the billions that was raised during Jonathan time to build a secretariat??...
That prof. Don waja with the money into SDP
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by gurnam: 12:42pm On Sep 03, 2018
As long as the SE is an integral part of Nigeria, hating Yorubas and Hausa/Fulanis at the same time will always be counter-productive to any ambition they have within Nigeria.

Wisdom is profitable to direct, picking your fight wisely in politics or anything at all is not a sign of cowardice, something the igbos have not learn.
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by abc115: 12:45pm On Sep 03, 2018
excanny:
Each zone can then have an equal number of delegates irrespective of their population.

These delegates will be the ones to vote the President.

Else the Northerners will continue terrorizing the other low breeding zones with their numbers.
Electoral College is still based on Population, States with higher population has more college electors...e.g California has 55,Florida has 29 while some states have 8 and 10

Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by senatordave1(m): 12:46pm On Sep 03, 2018
Fatherofdragons:
wike kwa? he is coming back for a second term in rivers state, how will he now become the VP?
My brother,that second term declaration is a smokescreen or a fall back.his primary aim is to be vice president,any governor will want this.it is the easiest way to aso rock if you have clout an influence.someone like wike if he becomes vice president will be unstoppable if power returns south.all the money hes spending for pdp is not for nothing.


Zoning the vp to the west is a strategic mistake and would boost buhari's chances further.the only south west pdp options are fayose,daniels,agbaje and none of them can win their states or win the south west or can be compared to yemi.no matter what pdp does,apc will always win the south west narrowly.denying the east the vp slot will further push them into apc and apga and lead to either election apathy or vote division.
As i predicted,the pdp have started taking the ss/se bloc votes for granted.they cant expect them to always vote pdp enmasse.this zone is too educated to be overlooked.denying them vp slot will also make them believe in apc promise of giving them presidency in 2023 while pdp may never give them.
In any case,no matter what pdp does,apc will likely win next year.apga presidential candidate will always divide south east votes while apc have already divided south south votes.the post also talked about south east governors not funding pdp which is a big signal.many of them are pro-buhari.only wike in the ss is truly anti buhari.the only way for pdp to win is if they can win ss/se with a wide margin and not allowing apc to get reasonable votes while eating into buhari's nw/ne votes and then winning the north central
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by slivertongue: 12:48pm On Sep 03, 2018
[quote author=zlantanfan post=70858123]Relax. dont take dis publicatn serious. dia are millions of SE votes outside SE.
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by famosh: 12:51pm On Sep 03, 2018
ki02020:
In other words PDP is calling south east 5% that doesn't matter much
Even the PDP knows that the enslaved daft gorilla descendants from the cursed landlocked region are extremely irrelevant in addition to them being devoid of critical thinking!
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by IbrahimDamola:
famosh:
The gorilla descendants are actually the daftest zombies! Even the PDP know, & that's why they want to take them for a ride!
If we yorubas are not daft, Borno won't be ranking higher than muslim-run yoruba states like oyo and osun in educational indices as proven by WAEC statistics. My dear yoruba brother we must say the truth. grin
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by dejol88: 12:52pm On Sep 03, 2018
gurnam:
Bro , base on reality on ground VP going to SW will lead to massive win for APC. Yoruba knows , they only need to wait for 4 years to clinch the presidency, as oppose to to waiting for 8 years. whereas a VP slot to SE would give PDP about 6 to 6.5million votes from SE. SS would give about 65 to 68percent to PDP due to Igbo VP position.
If PDP present a good candidate, NC might give them 60percent.other two zones will be the battle ground.
SW would have their votes lockdown for APC ,still PDP might get about 20percent.

This thinking has always been PDP thinking and hence their constant miscalculation in the SW.

It took 2 months to the election in 2015 for GEJ to realize that this is not true and the desperation in the last few days to the election shuttling from one place to another place in Yorubaland.

If you want to test your hypothesis, pour all your votes to APGA and you will see your voting strength is completely insignificant in the SW, a lesson that GEJ and Agbaje learnt the hard way
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by excanny: 12:52pm On Sep 03, 2018
abc115:
Electoral College is still based on Population, States with higher population has more college electors...e.g California has 50,Florida has 29 while some states have 8 and 10
Ok. Having an equal number of delegates per zone for a country like Nigeria will be a better version of an electoral college system then.

Say each zone has 50 delegates each. FCT may have 5 delegates. So the Presidency has 305 votes to fight for and winning above 50% gives victory.
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by dejol88: 12:53pm On Sep 03, 2018
Bro , base on reality on ground VP going to SW will lead to massive win for APC. Yoruba knows , they only need to wait for 4 years to clinch the presidency, as oppose to to waiting for 8 years. whereas a VP slot to SE would give PDP about 6 to 6.5million votes from SE. SS would give about 65 to 68percent to PDP due to Igbo VP position.
If PDP present a good candidate, NC might give them 60percent.other two zones will be the battle ground.
SW would have their votes lockdown for APC ,still PDP might get about 20percent

gurnam:
This thinking has always been PDP thinking and hence their constant miscalculation in the SW.

It took 2 months to the election in 2015 for GEJ to realize that this is not true and the desperation in the last few days to the election shuttling from one place to another place in Yorubaland.

If you want to test your hypothesis, pour all your votes to APGA and you will see your voting strength is completely insignificant in the SW, a lesson that GEJ and Agbaje learnt the hard way
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by omoharry(f): 12:55pm On Sep 03, 2018
Chiwude:
I don't believe this. But if true then APGA and APC should get ready to push out all PDP governors in the South-East to dislodge the myth that PDP has the east on lockdown. PDP needs to be buried in the South-East for good so that other parties can truly stand.
you guys should be active in politics by registering for your PVS..the point raise was not captured by you but you went ahead with the Nigerian closed mind of "we nor go gree ooo we no go gree"...without looking at the numerical component that is suppose to make The south east an attractive bride...of all the regions the in the south, south is east came last as regard PVS registration and collection...una nor go register yet how can you guys have the strength to court your way up the latter of Nigerian politics..It pained me that the VP slot might not be coming to the south east(it would be a great opportunity to position a south east candidate for presidency) put take a look at the all the disadvantage of south east to gather large vote as compared to other regions in and for campaign funding nko..it is a game of numbers at this junction my brother.
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by famosh: 12:58pm On Sep 03, 2018
IbrahimDamola:
If yorubas are not daft, Borno won't be raking higher than muslim-run yoruba states like oyo and osun in educational indices as proven by WAEC statistics. My dear yoruba brother we must say the truth. grin
Chinedu my ibo brother, daftness isn't by not going to school! For example, Ebelemi & his wife are educated but they're extremely daft!
The gorilla descendants from the landlocked region are actually the daftest things in the world!
Cheers! grin
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by MYHUBBY: 12:58pm On Sep 03, 2018
Fatherofdragons:
SE not SS
I never knew secondus was from SE. I used to think he's from rivers state.


still SS is locked down for PDP as PDP control majority States in SS. so no implication for not picking VP from there and as for SE they've chairman and none of their PDP politician can pull political weight out of East


East need to learn extension politics. fayose is loved by Igbo's just because of this political extension, even jimi agbaje is loved by them. southwest politicians surely know the game of politics except some few who are not interested in national politics
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by senatordave1(m): 1:00pm On Sep 03, 2018
dejol88:
Bro , base on reality on ground VP going to SW will lead to massive win for APC. Yoruba knows , they only need to wait for 4 years to clinch the presidency, as oppose to to waiting for 8 years. whereas a VP slot to SE would give PDP about 6 to 6.5million votes from SE. SS would give about 65 to 68percent to PDP due to Igbo VP position.
If PDP present a good candidate, NC might give them 60percent.other two zones will be the battle ground.
SW would have their votes lockdown for APC ,still PDP might get about 20percent
Oga,south east can never give up to 6 million votes.only north west does that.the south east has 8 million voters.based on the average turnout in the country,4-5 million votes is enough.the highest they ever gave was 5 million in 2011 to gej.but with card reader technology in 2015,their true turnout showed with them not churning out up to 3 million.
With northerners on the ballot,total votes here cant be more than 2.5 million with apga getting at least 1 million.
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by deScifa(m): 1:01pm On Sep 03, 2018
Simbrixton:
Igbos need biafra actually and need collaboration with south West secessionists the boko Haram war is not ending soon and Nigeria army is weak what igbos and yoruba secessionist need is a militia
The Yoruba's are not ready not cos they are afraid but cos they don't start what they can't finish and have more to loose if there's war.
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by abc115: 1:03pm On Sep 03, 2018
MYHUBBY:
I never knew secondus was from SE. I used to think he's from rivers state.


still SS is locked down for PDP as PDP control majority States in SS. so no implication for not picking VP from there and as for SE they've chairman and none of their PDP politician can pull political weight out of East


East need to learn extension politics. fayose is loved by Igbo's just because of this political extension, even jimi agbaje is loved by them. southwest politicians surely know the game of politics except some few who are not interested in national politics
You are right, Secondus is from Rivers State ...SS
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