BabaIbo:


I think you're the one that needs to check 1999 -2011 election results, except for 2015 till now, where there's a report of apathy/boycott.

Or you want me to remind you that Lagos is a diverse state when it comes to population, a good reminder is the threat of your oba back then in Lagos and also the plea of other contestants in other regions, even other SW states.
You don't need to fake ignorance Mr man

1999 votes for PDP
Anambra 633K
Imo 421K
Enugu 640k
Ebonyi 250k
Abia 360K

2015 votes for PDP
Anambra 660K
Imo 559k
Enugu 553k
Ebonyi 323K
Abia 368K

BabaRamota1980:


What makes you think Atiku is best to carry PDP Flag?

Atik has more personal money to spend, He has more allies in other regions that he has been building for 30yrs
In 2003 Most of the governors actually supported Atiku over OBJ

He is not known as a fanatic like Kwankwanso

All the contestants will lose in the North but who will do better in the south between all these PDP aspirants? I think Atiku will do better than Kwankwanso Saraki or Tambuwal in the South

kwankwanso is an extremist, Saraki is hated in the SW and Tambuwal, Dankwanbo do not have any name recognition. An average Southern voter probably wont be able to identify a picture of Dankwanbo or Tambuwal if the name isnt written

If PDP pay me to give them an opinion this is what I will tell them is the best combination to win, though personally I wont vote PDP

[s]*S/East lobbyists thrown off balance

By ChuksOnyema-Aziken and MykeUzendu

The on-going “battles” between some politicians from the South-East for the vice presidential slot of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) in next year’s presidential election may have hit the rock as party leadership wants the South-Westzone to produce the occupant.

Already, PDP has zoned the presidential slot to the North, while lobbyists from the South-East working on the zoning arrangement in the party went to work seeking to grab the running mate slot.

But their dreamsare going awry as impeccable sources at the Wadata Plaza headquarters of the PDP informed The AUTHORITY that the current thinking in the National Working Committee (NWC) and other members and affiliates at the apex of the party management are no longer in that direction.

It was learnt that the PDP leadership is under pressure, especially from its patrons, especially retired military brass and former national leaders, to source its presidential running mate from the South-West or the South-South.

The rationale for this move, sources said, is because the South-East is no longer being regarded as a beautiful bride by the PDP.

We gathered that voters from the zone, by virtue of their widespread aversion to President MuhmamaduBuhari and the All Progressives Congress (APC), really have no other option than to vote for the PDP, especially as the All Progressive Grand Alliance (APGA), which would have been a ready alternative for them, is not likely to field a presidential candidate and is billed to support the incumbent president, who would be the candidate of the APC.
Also, the arithmetic of vote count towards winning the forthcoming presidential election does not favour a candidate from the South-East. Even as a vice presidential candidate, it has the least number of registered voters compared with other geopolitical zones.

For example, of the total 73,944,312 registered voters in Nigeria as of January 2018, the North-West geo-political zone has the highest number of 18,505,984 voters, while the South-East trails with 8,293,093 registered voters.

The South-West comes second with 14,626,800 registered voters; South-South is close with 11,101,093 registered voters. North-Central has 10,586,965 registered voters, while the North-East zone has 9,929,015 voters.
“In the crunch to win the elections, PDP is looking at where it can get the votes to enable it fare well.
“It is no longer a secret that up to four or more high-heeled politicians from the South-East have been knocking on every door across the country, lobbying to be picked as the running mate to any Northern candidate that would emerge as the PDP presidential flag-bearer,” a competent source told our reporters.

The Deputy Senate President, Senator Ike Ekweremadu;former governor of Anambra StatePeter Obi, as well as the former Adviser on Inter-Party Affairs to President Goodluck Jonathan,Chief Ben Ndi-Obi, have before now been positioning themselves for the running mate slot and are known to have been making high level contact though individuals and groups all over the country, to project their wishes to be picked.

Outside these three, there are also former Governor of the Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN), Prof. ChukwumaSoludo, who was rumoured last week to have attempted to drag AlhajiAtikuAbubakar to APGA, where he is a prominent stakeholder, and to contest from there, a story that has been stridently denied by the Atiku camp and APGA.
However, The AUTHORITY can authoritatively reveal that if Atiku is not picked as the PDP flagbearer, Soludo and like-minded people in Igboland will work for his adoption by APGA.

Another group of stakeholders are rooting for the President-General of the OhanaezeNdigbo,Chief NniaNwodo, as he is also being tipped and would mount serious campaign for Atiku to consider him as his running mate, if he picks the APGA ticket.

The PDP, The AUTHORITY learnt, believes that making further investments like a presidential running mate in the South-East would be an overkill, as it is the other zones where it regards as the “battle zones” that require such an attention.

“With or without a running mate, the South-East is a PDP wet ground any day”, our correspondent was told by top level sources in the PDP.

Presidential aspirants under the PDP platform include Atiku, former Governor of Kano State and serving Senator, RabiuMusa Kwankwaso; former Governor of Jigawa State and former Foreign Affairs Minister, SuleLamido; former Governor of Kano State and one-time Minister of Education, Ibrahim Shakarau, and former Governor of Kaduna State and erstwhile chairman of the PDP National Caretaker Committee, Ahmed Makarfi.

Others are the former Governor of Sokoto State, AttahiruBafarawa;incumbent Governor ofGombe State, Ibrahim Dankwambo; former Governor of Plateau State and serving Senator, David Jang; former Minister of Special Duties, TanimuTuraki, and a former member of the House of Representatives, AlhajiDatti Baba-Ahmed.

The late entrants are the incumbent Governor of Sokoto State and former Speaker of the House of Representatives, AminuTambuwal, and the Senate President, AbubakarBukolaSaraki. Saraki formally joined the race last Thursday.

Of the above, PDP sources said the only one who would be under pressure to pick a vice presidential candidate from the South-East is Senator Saraki.

But this option is being shot down by the challenge that none of the governors of the South-East extraction would be willing to contribute generously to such campaign as they have been lukewarm in funding party activities in the last three and half years.

A source said this leaves the South-South as the beautiful bride, as their governors have the resources and are willing to fund the party’s activities.

Efforts made to contact the highest ranking member of the PDP National Working Committee (NWC), from the South East, Col. Austin Akobundu (rtd), for comment proved abortive as his lines could not be reached.

However, one of his aides told The AUTHORITY that “the current permutations have shifted attention of political gladiators from the South-East to ferociously tackle one another to grab the Governorship, Senate and House of Representatives tickets.

“I can assure you that the refusal of our people to register as voters is not helping matters. Our people are politically naïve and this is our greatest undoing despite the fact that we believe that Ndigbo are numerically stronger than any other race in this country, given the fact that all over the country, they are next in number to the indigenous people, but we are politically ignorant, believing that political office comes as a matter of logic or rational thinking,” the aide stressed.[/s]

Fake News! If PDP want to fail let them give Southwest the VP slot! INEC should release the states of origin of all PVC holders all over Nigeria. They will realise that millions of PVC holders in other regions of the country are actually Igbos! As per zoning the VP slot to southsouth it is not possible as the chairman of the party is already from Southsouth! Does the peddlers of this fake news also expect the Southeast Governors to sponsor or contribute their fund for election of Southwest VP! They also forgot that it was the unanimous agreement of Southeast Governors that helped Secundus to win the chairmanship, not only Wike! They also forget that both Nyeso Wike and Ifeanyi Okowa (who they expects to sponsor the presidential election are Igbos!!

Who are the SE governors in PDP?

Imo is with APC, Anambra is with APGA

Basically SE has 3 PDP governors

SS has 5 Delta Rivers Bayelsa AkwaIbom and Cross River

So you expect the 5 SS governors to step down for the 3 SE governors?

Pdp has gone back to the same yorubas that betrayed them after Jonathan gave their Chiefs hundreds of millions of naira.

Are the pdp thinking that the yorubas would vote for them?

Smh... Pdp has given buhari a return ticket.

Mynd44:
If Saraki wins the primary, it will be silly to pick a SW VP. They will have to go to the SS if the reports of this article is true.

But if Atiku wins, I guess Gbenga Daniels will be on his way to be his running mate

Why did you delete my comment on this thread?

https://www.nairaland.com/4712044/reasons-why-bukola-saraki-should


You should be neutral as a moderator and not just push whatever suits your interest to frontage. Stop being a bigot.

And mind you, you can block me for expressing my mind.

It is misleading to base electoral fortune or value of the igbos on the no of pvcs in the South East because in every major cities of all the states in Nigeria, the igbos account for 80% of all the tribes in such place, for instance that South west has 14million pvcs does not mean all are Yoruba, out of that number igbos will have up to 5million of it likewise in other zones and when you add that's to the number of the pvcs in South east you will understand you don't need to be only looking at the south east pvcs.

IPOB Stats.

BabaIbo:


That's the truth, kiss it...

Hausas and fulanis are attached/called together to gain number.
Singly they are not up to...
If you have not been to the north, you won't understand.

Do you know that they are the most populous Nigerians in diaspora, and that they have the highest number of people that are in other regions(every other regions in Nigeria).

you've not stoped smoking something

fergie001:

And do you sincerely think even with an Igbo VP,they still won't do the damage?
You are made aware that even during the Anambra guber elections,they called for boycott...that was a regional election ooo;contested by an Igbo man v an Igbo man......
So,the truth is there is always voter apathy in the East....so perhaps,I will still argue for regional change,maybe political parties,maybe not.........but the individuals we have there now....are not just what we need......
In this part of the world,we see voting as i-don-care rather than a civic duty.....and we must make that clear.....how many governors set aside a day for pvc collection.....
How many governors...can carry the campaign for voting like they do their 2nd term?
So,we must galvanise our people and engage ourselves in it.....

It's actually due to the fact that votes in SE never count. People believe the ruling party always writes figures especially for presidential elections. The little that vote are motivated by money.

raumdeuter:


Atik has more personal money to spend, He has more allies in other regions that he has been building for 30yrs
In 2003 Most of the governors actually supported Atiku over OBJ

He is not known as a fanatic like Kwankwanso

All the contestants will lose in the North but who will do better in the south between all these PDP aspirants? I think Atiku will do better than Kwankwanso Saraki or Tambuwal in the South

kwankwanso is an extremist, Saraki is hated in the SW and Tambuwal, Dankwanbo do not have any name recognition. An average Southern voter probably wont be able to identify a picture of Dankwanbo or Tambuwal if the name isnt written

If PDP pay me to give them an opinion this is what I will tell them is the best combination to win, though personally I wont vote PDP

I understand the likes for him across regions. Atiku is liked but he is not politically developed. All his talks about restructuring are scripts. He is from Adamawa, a state that is constantly violated by the brutal bokoharam. The greatest enemy of state at moment is bokoharam. What has Atiku put in place to dissuade and stop bokoharam attacks locally in his state? Nothing!
It's hard to imagine that if Atiku wins he will take over as Conmander in Chief and own the bokoharam security issue and bring a solution to it.

Atiku is a political deadweight and cannot be paired with a vp that is equally a political dead weight, citizens will be worse off than we are now.

In addition, the cabal in North know Atiku more than we know him in South. They will render him useless in his own administration. He will become the same thing that Ibos turned Jonathan into.


We have to produce a dynamic future. Competent hands are available and ready to march forward but the zoning formula is proving to be a hindrance. Therefore we have to work within the factors of zoning and dynamism to wipe the slate clean and begin a new future. It' s a national call. The shortest route to that position is not Atiku. We take for granted that a Northern slot must be occupied by Muslim North. Not necessarily.

They forgot majority of igbos re found in other zones apart frm south east, travel to dis zones during xmas and you will understand

EazyMoh:

It's actually due to the fact that votes in SE never count. People believe the ruling party always writes figures especially for presidential elections. The little that vote are motivated by money.

Exactly.....

BabaRamota1980:


I understand the likes for him across regions. Atiku is liked but he is not politically developed. All his talks about restructuring are scripts. He is from Adamawa, a state that is constantly violated by the brutal bokoharam. The greatest enemy of state at moment is bokoharam. What has Atiku put in place to dissuade and stop bokoharam attacks locally in his state? Nothing!
It's hard to imagine that if Atiku wins he will take over as Conmander in Chief and own the bokoharam security issue and bring a solution to it.

Atiku is a political deadweight and cannot be paired with a vp that is equally a political dead weight, citizens will be worse off than we are now.

In addition, the cabal in North know Atiku more than we know him in South. They will render him useless in his own administration. He will become the same thing that Ibos turned Jonathan into.


We have to produce a dynamic future. Competent hands are available and ready to march forward but the zoning formula is proving to be a hindrance. Therefore we have to work within the factors of zoning and dynamism to wipe the slate clean and begin a new future. It' s a national call. The shortest route to that position is not Atiku. We take for granted that a Northern slot must be occupied by Muslim North. Not necessarily.

I am not an Atiku supporter all I am saying is that Atiku is the best and closest thing PDP has to defeating APC. Atiku has a 30% chance Kwankwanso, Saraki have 20% Dankwanbo and Tambuwal have like 10%

killsmith:
Pdp has gone back to the same yorubas that betrayed them after Jonathan gave their Chiefs hundreds of millions of naira.

Are the pdp thinking that the yorubas would vote for them?

Smh... Pdp has given buhari a return ticket.

In truth PDP should be picking an IBO for flag bearer as compensation for your sacrifice in 1999. I wrote about this two days ago. PDP should skip zoning rotation next year and rwturn to IBO the flag it took from Ekwueme in 1999.

They know this. They have been told publicly and it has been whispered to them privately. So why are they not doing right by Ibo? This will be an issue between PDP and IBO.

Yoruba did not ask PDP to zone anything to us, but if they voluntarily did, inspite of our disdain for them as you bigotly asserted, it goes to show who we are and our political might on the landscape.

Lol, this article is seriously ridiculous to say the least. Whoever that wrote this epistle must be the joker of the year. Even the reasons they gave are senseless! SE is at least 98% Igbos meaning that almost all the 8 million voters in the region are Igbos! In the SW, Lagos alone constitutes almost a third of the 12 million votes there, and Igbos make up at least 40% of the population of Lagos state as well as a significant numbers in other cities in the region. So, plus and minus, Igbos would have as much as 3 million out of the 12 million in SW!! SS has 11 million voters, Igbos alone both residents and indigenes would be as much as 5 million!! Now add 8+3+5=16. Meaning that Igbos have upwards of 16 million voters in the South alone!!! Now, add the Igbo votes spread across the Northern states and you will see that Igbos have the single largest vote of all ethnic groups!!!
It is shallow and unintelligent for anyone to base their argument on states/regions without factoring in ethnicity which is the most influential aspect. Moreover, Igbos are highly enlightened, educated and now have ethnic nationality loyalty more than ever before and would give block vote to any party that would protect their interest. However, if on the offhand chance that this joke is actually true, then PDP as a party are made up of the worst form of dull people!! Give the VP slot to a yoruba man and watch how millions of Igbos will boycott the election in solidarity with IPOB. Common, which Igbo man whether in Onitsha, Aba, Lagos, Kaduna or Abuja will go and stand on the queue waiting for hours to vote for a PDP that chose a Hausa president and Yoruba VP
Lol, we just dey observe

raumdeuter:


I am not an Atiku supporter all I am saying is that Atiku is the best and closest thing PDP has to defeating APC. Atiku has a 30% chance Kwankwanso, Saraki have 20% Dankwanbo and Tambuwal have like 10%

I read you clearly my brother. Lets not exclude Christians in the North. T.Y. Danjuma is disenchanted with Buhari and APC. If PDP was smart they should approach him with promise of automatic ticket. OBJ will support him. Afenifere will support him. Ohanaeze will support him. Clark will support him. David Mark will support him. So will Babangida. Even some surviving retrd military generals in Arewa will support him. The Yardua family will support him.

PDP made a big blunder when they put Secondus in charge of the party.

BiafraIShere:
Lol, this article is seriously ridiculous to say the least. Whoever that wrote this epistle must be the joker of the year. Even the reasons they gave are senseless! SE is at least 98% Igbos meaning that almost all the 8 million voters in the region are Igbos! In the SW, Lagos alone constitutes almost a third of the 12 million votes there, and Igbos make up at least 40% of the population of Lagos state as well as a significant numbers in other cities in the region. So, plus and minus, Igbos would have as much as 3 million out of the 12 million in SW!! SS has 11 million voters, Igbos alone both residents and indigenes would be as much as 5 million!! Now add 8+3+5=16. Meaning that Igbos have upwards of 16 million voters in the South alone!!! Now, add the Igbo votes spread across the Northern states and you will see that Igbos have the single largest vote of all ethnic groups!!!
It is shallow and unintelligent for anyone to base their argument on states/regions without factoring in ethnicity which is the most influential aspect. Moreover, Igbos are highly enlightened, educated and now have ethnic nationality loyalty more than ever before and would give block vote to any party that would protect their interest. However, if on the offhand chance that this joke is actually true, then PDP as a party are made up of the worst form of dull people!! Give the VP slot to a yoruba man and watch how millions of Igbos will boycott the election in solidarity with IPOB. Common, which Igbo man whether in Onitsha, Aba, Lagos, Kaduna or Abuja will go and stand on the queue waiting for hours to vote for a PDP that chose a Hausa president and Yoruba VP
Lol, we just dey observe

Read my response with MORAL OF STORY.

NEC counts by footprint in the region, not by tribeprint.

Moreover, in SW party machineries are managers of shops and organs of commerce at local level. This is why it was possible for Mushin LG to have so much power and dictate what happens in Ladipo market with over 90% shops rented by Ibo. In Alaba, an Ibo enclave, the chairman of Amuwo Odofin will shut it down if things are done outside of his wishes. So if you like own the entire IGR of Lagos and put Ibo name on it, at end of day those who control political administration own you and your IGR wealth. You vote how they want you to, not the way you desire.

I thought Eleko's Lagoon has already served as Owner's Manual for you on this matter? Refer back to page 5 in that manual....it clarifies the ground on what will happen if you go against Eleko.

flavnwokem:
It is misleading to base electoral fortune or value of the igbos on the no of pvcs in the South East because in every major cities of all the states in Nigeria, the igbos account for 80% of all the tribes in such place, for instance that South west has 14million pvcs does not mean all are Yoruba, out of that number igbos will have up to 5million of it, likewise in other zones and when you add that to the number of the pvcs in South east you will understand you don't need to be only looking at the south east pvcs.

"in every major cities of all the states in Nigeria, the igbos account for 80% of all the tribes in such place, for instance that South west has 14million pvcs does not mean all are Yoruba, out of that number igbos will have up to 5million"

Right.

raumdeuter:


1999 votes for PDP
Anambra 633K
Imo 421K
Enugu 640k
Ebonyi 250k
Abia 360K

2015 votes for PDP
Anambra 660K
Imo 559k
Enugu 553k
Ebonyi 323K
Abia 368K

Your results are false Mr man, why are you deliberately skipping other years(2007, 2011) and showing 2015 result, when it was recorded that there was low turn out during 2015 elections...

BTW we are talking of registered voters(i.e total number of those that registered for the election or election results) and not pdp votes, even at that, can you compare pdp votes in S.E to that of SW.

I'm done arguing with you, keep beating around the bush, na yourself you dey confuse not me biko

BabaRamota1980:


Read my response with MORAL OF STORY.

NEC counts by footprint in the region, not by tribeprint.

Moreover, in SW party machineries are managers of shops and organs of commerce at local level. This is why it was possible for Mushin LG to have so much power and dictate what happens in Ladipo market with over 90% shops rented by Ibo. In Alaba, an Ibo enclave, the chairman of Amuwo Odofin will shut it down if things are done outside of his wishes. So if you like own the entire IGR of Lagos and put Ibo name on it, at end of day those who control political administration own you and your IGR wealth. You vote how they want you to, not the way you desire.

I thought Eleko's Lagoon has already served as Owner's Manual for you on this matter? Refer back to page 5 in that manual....it clarifies the ground on what will happen if you go against Eleko.

Lol, the joke is on you actually. Yes, I agree with you that who controls politics has a say in what happens within his domain. Now, ask yourself how many Igbo reps, councillors, house of Assembly members etc that are there in Lagos. It was unheard of before for Igbos to hold elective positions in Lagos but now it is common and believe me with more Igbo population in Lagos and their significant contribution in the economy, it will continue to improve going forward and no governor in Lagos can really call the bluff of Igbos without risking losing the election.
So, on topic, Igbo spread across states and regions is more of blessing. PDP won't be stupid to field a yoruba VP, unless they are actually working for buhari to win very easily.

BiafraIShere:
Lol, the joke is on you actually. Yes, I agree with you that who controls politics has a say in what happens within his domain. Now, ask yourself how many Igbo reps, councillors, house of Assembly members etc that are there in Lagos. It was unheard of before for Igbos to hold elective positions in Lagos but now it is common and believe me with more Igbo population in Lagos and their significant contribution in the economy, it will continue to improve going forward and no governor in Lagos can really call the bluff of Igbos without risking losing the election.
So, on topic, Igbo spread across states and regions is more of blessing. PDP won't be stupid to field a yoruba VP, unless they are actually working for buhari to win very easily.

This is first time since 1999 Ibo has won any elective post in Lagos, correct?

Remember there was also a first time when Ibo was made commissioner under Tinubu. Then we repeated it under Fashola. The owners of Lagos intended for that to be the practice so every administration will include Ibo commissioner. ...but you blew it. Does Ambode have an Ibo commissioner? No. In fact Ambode is hell bent to prove that you are nothing in Lagos. So go out next year and repeat your legislative success from 2015 if truly what you say has validity.

Remember also, we are doing direct primaries in Lagos this time around. Make sure you get your brothers in. If you loose your 2015 gains in the 2019 election your fate in Lagos is sealed.

BabaIbo:


Stop being emotional.

Yes I have been to the north.

LoL, you are actually the one lying by saying yorubas are more than Igbos in Ghana.

The only doubtful place is Benin republic and the reason is because of the indigenous yorubas there, remove the indigenous yorubas (because they are not Nigerians), Igbos still surpass them there

You are the one being emotional here. I just told you the truth. Yorubas are far more than Ibos in Ghana. The stats are there. There are over six hundred thousands Yorubas in Ghana. This makes them the largest non indegenous tribe in that country. In fact, Yorubas were the only ethnic group to be recognized in Ghana's last census. As for Benin republic, Yorubas from Nigeria are more than Ibos. Just because you open 2 by 2 shops everywhere does not make you the largest, it just mean you are the most visible

Mynd44:
If Saraki wins the primary, it will be silly to pick a SW VP. They will have to go to the SS if the reports of this article is true.

But if Atiku wins, I guess Gbenga Daniels will be on his way to be his running mate

And you think saraki will pick south south or southeast? Saraki of all people. Keep dreaming

oodualover:

You are the one being emotional here. I just told you the truth. Yorubas are far more than Ibos in Ghana. The stats are there. There are over six hundred thousands Yorubas in Ghana. This makes them the largest non indegenous tribe in that country. In fact, Yorubas were the only ethnic group to be recognized in Ghana's last census. As for Benin republic, Yorubas from Nigeria are more than Ibos. Just because you open 2 by 2 shops everywhere does not make you the largest, it just mean you are the most visible

I don't argue blindly like you and again your comment I'd reeked of lies, aside igbo and yoruba..., hausa is also recognized in Ghana, Google is your friend, you can make use of it.

Don't quote me again, unless you have something meaningful to type, thanks

Igbos are the largest Nigerians both home and abroad, kiss the truth

olaboy33:
So PDP still makes use of Wadata Plaza as its headquarters...

What happened to the billions that was raised during Jonathan time to build a secretariat??...

Thieves embezzled money for thier own office , somebody please beg Buhari to help them complete their office