₦airaland Forum

MYHUBBY:
I never knew secondus was from SE. I used to think he's from rivers state.


still SS is locked down for PDP as PDP control majority States in SS. so no implication for not picking VP from there and as for SE they've chairman and none of their PDP politician can pull political weight out of East


East need to learn extension politics. fayose is loved by Igbo's just because of this political extension, even jimi agbaje is loved by them. southwest politicians surely know the game of politics except some few who are not interested in national politics

South east/south south was locked when pdp were in power.next year will expose everything.again,if you study the votes in these regions from 1999 till 2015,you will discover that federal might,rigging capacity and money decides who wins and not really the electorates.many of these riggers and votes allocators are now in apc so it will not be one way voting.
Secondus is from andoni in rivers state

Bro, it will get to that my brother due to Igbo man as VP. In fact apga will not get more than 100k votes while apc cannot do more than 500k votes.
Igbo's will see VP position as only opportunity to get the presidency they crave for .
Don't forget ojukwu contested under apga and didn't perform well during polls

senatordave1:
Oga,south east can never give up to 6 million votes.only north west does that.the south east has 8 million voters.based on the average turnout in the country,4-5 million votes is enough.the highest they ever gave was 5 million in 2011 to gej.but with card reader technology in 2015,their true turnout showed with them not churning out up to 3 million.
With northerners on the ballot,total votes here cant be more than 2.5 million with apga getting at least 1 million.

xcrew20:
This is the reason, I have always hammered on the fact that we need to play our home politics right. Time to forgo the center and go regional. Igbos should move en-mass to APGA. Elect credible candidates that will bring development home. Presidency or VP should not be our focus at the moment. Lets create a home our diasporas can move back to with their money and investment.

Same thing Yoruba's did with AD/AC that metamophosed to APC.

excanny:
Ok. Having an equal number of delegates per zone for a country like Nigeria will be a better version of an electoral college system then.

Say each zone has 50 delegates each. FCT may have 5 delegates. So the Presidency has 305 votes to fight for and winning above 50% gives victory.

Why will this your "equal number of delegates" work in Nigeria when it didn't work in the more democratic US? You actually thought the electoral college has each states having equal number of votes, ba? You see say e no good to just talk without arming yourself with information!

I know this ain't true though,not I that care but if PDP take Igbos for granted then we will make up with Buhari in 2019 election to spite PDP.

deScifa:
The Yoruba's are not ready not cos they are afraid but cos they don't start what they can't finish and have more to loose if there's war.

yeah but yorubas have a lot to gain if dere is independence

Crossboy:
Which Yoruba Secessionist Ayam Not Gatting U

there are a few yoruba secessionist groups

famosh:
Why will this your "equal number of delegates" work in Nigeria when it didn't work in the more democratic US? You actually thought the electoral college has each states having equal number of votes, ba? You see say e no good to just talk without arming yourself with information!

We can adopt a system and make it better.

The concept still remains the same.

Offset an overlording population and give all a level playing field.

If the US version is still flawed, nothing stops us from improving upon it.

The aim is what's important. I believe we even need it more than the US cos we have a more uninformed populace than the US.

olaboy33:
So PDP still makes use of Wadata Plaza as its headquarters...

What happened to the billions that was raised during Jonathan time to build a secretariat??...

it went the way the countries resources went

senatordave1:
South east/south south was locked when pdp were in power.next year will expose everything.again,if you study the votes in these regions from 1999 till 2015,you will discover that federal might,rigging capacity and money decides who wins and not really the electorates.many of these riggers and votes allocators are now in apc so it will not be one way voting.
Secondus is from andoni in rivers state

then why is that guy confusing me because I remember I followed the chairmanship election of PDP then


seriously 2019 election is pregnant and we are yet to know what it would give birth to

Ojiofor:
I know this ain't true though,not I that care but if PDP take Igbos for granted then we will make up with Buhari in 2019 election to spite PDP.

Talk for yourself,.

michealewela:
Talk for yourself,.

Thank you.

CSTR1005:
Then the south east should prove them wrong.
We are loyal to those loyal to us.

They are hoping on igbo loyalty as bloc votes. They are going to be sorely mistaken, if they bring an unholy arrangement.

Igbos need to be wise now. Any party that does not have an igbo candidate should not be voted for.

It is common sense.

There is nothing loyal about Igbos, if there was, Igbos would have voted Agbari Ojukwu.. You don't demand from others what you lack.

kiss the truth!

I really don't like PDP quite alright but it wont be a good strategy for them to choose a running mate from the south west. They will make APC's victory easier if they do what they are proposing. Igbo's will have absolutely no reason to vote for PDP with an Hausa and Yoruba on the ticket.

senatordave1:
My brother,that second term declaration is a smokescreen or a fall back.his primary aim is to be vice president,any governor will want this.it is the easiest way to aso rock if you have clout an influence.someone like wike if he becomes vice president will be unstoppable if power returns south.all the money hes spending for pdp is not for nothing.


Zoning the vp to the west is a strategic mistake and would boost buhari's chances further.the only south west pdp options are fayose,daniels,agbaje and none of them can win their states or win the south west or can be compared to yemi.no matter what pdp does,apc will always win the south west narrowly.denying the east the vp slot will further push them into apc and apga and lead to either election apathy or vote division.
As i predicted,the pdp have started taking the ss/se bloc votes for granted.they cant expect them to always vote pdp enmasse.this zone is too educated to be overlooked.denying them vp slot will also make them believe in apc promise of giving them presidency in 2023 while pdp may never give them.
In any case,no matter what pdp does,apc will likely win next year.apga presidential candidate will always divide south east votes while apc have already divided south south votes.the post also talked about south east governors not funding pdp which is a big signal.many of them are pro-buhari.only wike in the ss is truly anti buhari.the only way for pdp to win is if they can win ss/se with a wide margin and not allowing apc to get reasonable votes while eating into buhari's nw/ne votes and then winning the north central

Lemme just chip in the flaws in this your nice submission.

1. APC will get 40-45% in Delta, Rivers, Edo, Imo, AKS & CRS

2. APC will get the minimum 25% in Anambra , Abia & Ebonyi

3. PDP can only eat a bit into Buhari's vote in Kano ( still up for debate cos from feelers, north is pro Buhari 2nd term all the way & don't fancy Kwankwanso beyond Kano gubernatorial chances)

4. NE minus Taraba & Gombe won't give PDP so much votes.

5. Never forget Niger, Kogi, Kwara & Nasarawa are in NC, Benue doesn't equal NC, Plateau has a lot of fulanis incase you aren't aware, so when you do permutation, pls hear that in mind ...

Minus God saying it won't be , Buhari already has won.

2023 is what people should focus on...

excanny:
We can adopt a system and make it better.

The concept still remains the same.

Offset an overlording population and give all a level playing field.

If the US version is still flawed, nothing stops us from improving upon it.

The aim is what's important. I believe we even need it more than the US cos we have a more uninformed populace than the US.

Look, no matter how equal every state vote is, your party or preferred candidate won't still win if your people keep playing bitter & unintelligent politics! The APC, with their current arrangement, will definitely win more states than your party, so it's useless!
If you want your preferred candidate to win a presidential election in Nigeria using ANY kind of electoral system, your people need to liaise with other people to support them! You don't isolate yourself arrogantly & expect things to fall on a platter of gold for you! Even the Southsouth aren't that stvpidly rigid & that's why they'll most likely produce a president AGAIN before the ibos produce their first!

gurnam:
This thinking has always been PDP thinking and hence their constant miscalculation in the SW.

It took 2 months to the election in 2015 for GEJ to realize that this is not true and the desperation in the last few days to the election shuttling from one place to another place in Yorubaland.

[s]If you want to test your hypothesis, pour all your votes to APGA and you will see your voting strength is completely insignificant in the SW, a lesson that GEJ and Agbaje learnt the hard way[/s]

Why didnt yorubas pour all their votes to ACN to win presidency? this boy, when will you get smart.. I always get headaches any time I read somthing with your name and it's really been a long time.. smh

It still baffles why there is no one in PDP who is an Igbo that wants to contest for the presidency. Despite that the party is strong among them. Does it mean there is no qualified and competent individual among them? It is still the northerners that scramble it among themselves. Now, come 2019, it is going to be northerner versus northerners (the ruling and the closest opposition).
Later Igbo will be shouting marginalisation. They will be saying no Igbo man has become the president of this country.

globemoney:
[s]Why didnt yorubas pour all their votes to ACN to win presidency? this boy, when will you get smart.. I always get headaches any time I read somthing with your name and it's really been a long time.. smh[/s]

You must be pathetically dumb if this response have any context to my post your mentioned

Let me make it simple for your brain, my post is just to question the over reliance of PDP on igbos that lives in the SW to sway the vote in PDP favour.
Hope that is simple enough for your brain to assimilate

ki02020:
In other words PDP is calling south east 5% that doesn't matter much

during my pre-degree days, one of our lecturers produced a book with cover designs that look more like text books that were meant for primary students, some of my mates where angry and complaining that he wouldn't have dare to produce such for year one students and all that. I told to accept their fate and work towards changing their status as the lecturer was just communicating the obvious(that we were yet to be students of the school unless we could prove otherwise by coming out successful in the exams) some people were able to reason with me but unfortunately the majority were at the other end, trying to claim what they called their right. At he end of the section, I was not disappointed, many who saw things from my view scale through while those who felt they had arrived high institution and continue to enjoy what the true students of the school were enjoying got the shock of their lives when they were sent back home. Buhari said you they were 5%, instead of accepting and improving on that, they said Buhari was saying rubbish but where is PDP putting them now, in the class of 35% I guess?
when you have a friend that looks at your face and tell you the bitter truth, don't be quick to disassociate yourself with him/her. his sincere critics maybe what you need to get things right.

famosh:
Look, no matter how equal every state vote is, your party or preferred candidate won't still win if your people keep playing bitter & unintelligent politics! The APC, with their current arrangement, will definitely win more states than your party, so it's useless!
If you want your preferred candidate to win a presidential election in Nigeria using ANY kind of electoral system, your people need to liaise with other people to support them! You don't isolate yourself arrogantly & expect things to fall on a platter of gold for you! Even the Southsouth aren't that stvpidly rigid & that's why they'll most likely produce a president AGAIN before the ibos produce their first!

Let's have the equal playing field first. Forget what happens after that.

dejol88:
Bro, it will get to that my brother due to Igbo man as VP. In fact apga will not get more than 100k votes while apc cannot do more than 500k votes.
Igbo's will see VP position as only opportunity to get the presidency they crave for .
Don't forget ojukwu contested under apga and didn't perform well during polls

You lie sir.when ojukwu contested under apga,he got at least 30% in all south east states when apga was weak talkless of now.if it repeats itself next year,it will damage pdp.apga is the dominant party in anambra and will attract large votes in any polls while pdp is getting weaker.in imo,most apc supporters have moved to apga and would rival pdp.same in abia.an average ibo loves apga than any other party

seunmsg:
I really don't like PDP quite alright but it wont be a good strategy for them to choose a running mate from the south west. They will make APC's victory easier if they do what they are proposing. Igbo's will have absolutely no reason to vote for PDP with an Hausa and Yoruba on the ticket.

The politics of religion and tribe that PDP played in 2015 is going to hurt the for a very long time

gurnam:
You must be pathetically dumb if this response have any context to my post your mentioned

Let me make it simple for your brain, my post is just to question the over reliance of PDP on igbos that lives in the SW to sway the vote in PDP favour.
Hope that is simple enough for your brain to assimilate

APC managed to win last presidential election in Lagos because of igbo votes.. The votes PDP got in Lagos alone was enough to win the presidency, except for the Kano case that destroyed everything. Igbos are simply the reason why APC dont win Lagos how APC win in Kano despite Tinubus influence and all so there goes your answer

excanny:
Let's have the equal playing field first. Forget what happens after that.

It won't happen. It doesn't even happen in more democratic countries with way more diversity than Nigeria!
It's actually the most unintelligent & delusional opinion ever, bro!

globemoney:
[s]APC managed to win last presidential election in Lagos because of igbo votes.. The votes PDP got in Lagos alone was enough to win the presidency, except for the Kano case that destroyed everything. Igbos are simply the reason why APC dont win Lagos how APC win in Kano despite Tinubus influence and all so there goes your answer[/s]

Ok, it’s sheer waste of time engaging dumb people

famosh:
It won't happen. It doesn't even happen in more democratic countries with way more diversity than Nigeria!
It's actually the most unintelligent & delusional opinion ever, bro!

Can you explain why it is delusional?

Lol. Nigeria has more diversity.

gurnam:
Ok, it’s sheer waste of time engaging dumb people

Are not ilegunboy, we always have known intelligence is very far from you but stop bringing your nonsense here,go and read books and get smart

Nigerians really need to wake up, Osibanjo's 3 years plus what benefit has it gotten for the SW, Mr Adamawa Atiku enjoyed 8, yet Adamawa ain't exactly doing better than others.. These crooks are playing us like Sega, we need to look beyond zoning and seek people who can actually help us as a country..We are still primitive and naive in this part of the world..