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Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by docadams: 4:04pm On Sep 03, 2018
fergie001:
Bless you too......that's the stark reality,my bro...so you re Igbo...didn't know that
Not by birth. But you will never know
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by fergie001(mod): 4:06pm On Sep 03, 2018
docadams:
Not by birth. But you will never know
Wow..jisike
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by docadams: 4:11pm On Sep 03, 2018
fergie001:
I for say grin grin
The Ibos I grew up with, schooled and worked with, married into are not being represented well on social media.
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by BabaIbo: 4:13pm On Sep 03, 2018
oodualover:
Have you been to the North? Why do you like lying? Yorubas are more than Ibos in population! Which diaspora are you talking about? Even in Ghana, Yoruba outnumber Ibos ten to one
Stop being emotional.

Yes I have been to the north.

LoL, you are actually the one lying by saying yorubas are more than Igbos in Ghana.

The only doubtful place is Benin republic and the reason is because of the indigenous yorubas there, remove the indigenous yorubas (because they are not Nigerians), Igbos still surpass them there
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by senatordave1(m): 4:15pm On Sep 03, 2018
BabaIbo:
That's the truth, kiss it...

Hausas and fulanis are attached/called together to gain number.
Singly they are not up to...
If you have not been to the north, you won't understand.

Do you know that they are the most populous Nigerians in diaspora, and that they have the highest number of people that are in other regions(every other regions in Nigeria).
Please sir,lets not go into this direction.its controversial.lets face the topic.the smartest thing for the east to do is to share their votes
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by fergie001(mod): 4:16pm On Sep 03, 2018
docadams:
The Ibos I grew up with, schooled and worked with, married into are not being represented well on social media.
....and why do you say so?
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by senatordave1(m): 4:17pm On Sep 03, 2018
fergie001:
Wow..jisike
That shows that a good number of ibos support apc and buhari.
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by Nobody: 4:20pm On Sep 03, 2018
gurnam:
Hatred can actually leads to trouble. grin

This is what hatred will get SE.
Receive sense.

cc lzaa onyeoga gmbuharii pointzerom greenback

Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by raumdeuter: 4:21pm On Sep 03, 2018
senatordave1:
South east/south south was locked when pdp were in power.next year will expose everything.again,if you study the votes in these regions from 1999 till 2015,you will discover that federal might,rigging capacity and money decides who wins and not really the electorates.many of these riggers and votes allocators are now in apc so it will not be one way voting.
Secondus is from andoni in rivers state
I think its smarter for PDP to choose the VP from SS.

1. SS has a high number of voters

2. Unlike SE, they do not harbor so much hatred towards APC and If they don't have a strong reason to vote PDP they will vote APC

3. SE will never vote Buhari even if he is the only name on the ballot

So the analysis is this. By choosing a SS VP, You are securing that region of 6 states plus 5 SE states = 11 states. If you choose a SE VP, you will get 5 SE states and possibly lose 2 SS states like Edo or Akwa Ibom so its a huge gamble

PDP should pick Atiku and a SS Vice
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by fergie001(mod): 4:21pm On Sep 03, 2018
senatordave1:
That shows that a good number of ibos support apc and buhari.
Hahahahah.....I know where you lean,and trust me my hand no dey oooo...Buhari mismanaged the situation...it was in his hands....his statements sold him off....
Seriously,all I can say is I am more particular about what happens at the local or state level than the Presidency......You will get it right at home first before getting out....though I know you aren't Igbo sha grin
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by senatordave1(m): 4:22pm On Sep 03, 2018
dejol88:
For states election you are correct but federal you are wrong sir. Igbo would massively vote PDP even in imo state during presidential election,fact..Saraki exposee will further affect APC chances even in imo state where okorocha hold sway
Pdp will win imo but apc will get the required percentage.my instincts tell me that the south east will make a smart move in 2019 and vote the way the yorubas did in 2015,dividing votes between the two parties in order to have a say whoever wins.
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by Franchise21(m): 4:22pm On Sep 03, 2018
Mynd44:
If Saraki wins the primary, it will be silly to pick a SW VP. They will have to go to the SS if the reports of this article is true.

But if Atiku wins, I guess Gbenga Daniels will be on his way to be his running mate
Saraki won't pick his running mate from SS. The National Chairman of PDP is from SS. I see Sarmali picking Ekweremadu if he emerges PDP's candidate
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by senatordave1(m): 4:25pm On Sep 03, 2018
raumdeuter:
I think its smarter for PDP to choose the VP from SS.

1. SS has a high number of voters

2. Unlike SE, they do not harbor so much hatred towards APC and If they don't have a strong reason to vote PDP they will vote APC

3. SE will never vote Buhari even if he is the only name on the ballot

So the analysis is this. By choosing a SS VP, You are securing that region of 6 states plus 5 SE states = 11 states. If you choose a SE VP, you will get 5 SE states and possibly lose 2 SS states like Edo or Akwa Ibom so its a huge gamble

PDP should pick Atiku and a SS Vice
Wherever they chose vp,their time has passed.
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by senatordave1(m): 4:27pm On Sep 03, 2018
fergie001:
Hahahahah.....I know where you lean,and trust me my hand no dey oooo...Buhari mismanaged the situation...it was in his hands....his statements sold him off....
Seriously,all I can say is I am more particular about what happens at the local or state level than the Presidency......You will get it right at home first before getting out....though I know you aren't Igbo sha grin
Ya,am not ibo.but my lga borders iboland,we relate well with ibos.i have lived in ibo land,related with them.many of my friends are ibos.i love that tribe especially the anambra ibo.
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by fergie001(mod): 4:30pm On Sep 03, 2018
senatordave1:
Ya,am not ibo.but my lga borders iboland,we relate well with ibos.i have lived in ibo land,related with them.many of my friends are ibos.i love that tribe especially the anambra ibo.
Well-done Aniocha/IK boy grin grin
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by dejol88: 4:31pm On Sep 03, 2018
Well let wait and see what the two parties will present.
As for me , I will never vote any party be it ruling or opposition party .We as a people need to reject all of this analogue guys contesting for elections.it a shame that smart Nigerians do not have the clout to via for the number one seat to take Nigeria out of the present state .The situation is really troubling
senatordave1:
Pdp will win imo but apc will get the required percentage.my instincts tell me that the south east will make a smart move in 2019 and vote the way the yorubas did in 2015,dividing votes between the two parties in order to have a say whoever wins.
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by BabaRamota1980: 4:31pm On Sep 03, 2018
*S/East lobbyists thrown off balance

By ChuksOnyema-Aziken and MykeUzendu

The on-going “battles” between some politicians from the South-East for the vice presidential slot of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) in next year’s presidential election may have hit the rock as party leadership wants the South-Westzone to produce the occupant.

Already, PDP has zoned the presidential slot to the North, while lobbyists from the South-East working on the zoning arrangement in the party went to work seeking to grab the running mate slot.

But their dreamsare going awry as impeccable sources at the Wadata Plaza headquarters of the PDP informed The AUTHORITY that the current thinking in the National Working Committee (NWC) and other members and affiliates at the apex of the party management are no longer in that direction.

It was learnt that the PDP leadership is under pressure, especially from its patrons, especially retired military brass and former national leaders, to source its presidential running mate from the South-West or the South-South.

The rationale for this move, sources said, is because the South-East is no longer being regarded as a beautiful bride by the PDP.

We gathered that voters from the zone, by virtue of their widespread aversion to President MuhmamaduBuhari and the All Progressives Congress (APC), really have no other option than to vote for the PDP, especially as the All Progressive Grand Alliance (APGA), which would have been a ready alternative for them, is not likely to field a presidential candidate and is billed to support the incumbent president, who would be the candidate of the APC.
Also, the arithmetic of vote count towards winning the forthcoming presidential election does not favour a candidate from the South-East. Even as a vice presidential candidate, it has the least number of registered voters compared with other geopolitical zones.

For example, of the total 73,944,312 registered voters in Nigeria as of January 2018, the North-West geo-political zone has the highest number of 18,505,984 voters, while the South-East trails with 8,293,093 registered voters.

The South-West comes second with 14,626,800 registered voters; South-South is close with 11,101,093 registered voters. North-Central has 10,586,965 registered voters, while the North-East zone has 9,929,015 voters.
“In the crunch to win the elections, PDP is looking at where it can get the votes to enable it fare well.
“It is no longer a secret that up to four or more high-heeled politicians from the South-East have been knocking on every door across the country, lobbying to be picked as the running mate to any Northern candidate that would emerge as the PDP presidential flag-bearer,” a competent source told our reporters.

The Deputy Senate President, Senator Ike Ekweremadu;former governor of Anambra StatePeter Obi, as well as the former Adviser on Inter-Party Affairs to President Goodluck Jonathan,Chief Ben Ndi-Obi, have before now been positioning themselves for the running mate slot and are known to have been making high level contact though individuals and groups all over the country, to project their wishes to be picked.

Outside these three, there are also former Governor of the Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN), Prof. ChukwumaSoludo, who was rumoured last week to have attempted to drag AlhajiAtikuAbubakar to APGA, where he is a prominent stakeholder, and to contest from there, a story that has been stridently denied by the Atiku camp and APGA.
However, The AUTHORITY can authoritatively reveal that if Atiku is not picked as the PDP flagbearer, Soludo and like-minded people in Igboland will work for his adoption by APGA.

Another group of stakeholders are rooting for the President-General of the OhanaezeNdigbo,Chief NniaNwodo, as he is also being tipped and would mount serious campaign for Atiku to consider him as his running mate, if he picks the APGA ticket.

The PDP, The AUTHORITY learnt, believes that making further investments like a presidential running mate in the South-East would be an overkill, as it is the other zones where it regards as the “battle zones” that require such an attention.

“With or without a running mate, the South-East is a PDP wet ground any day”, our correspondent was told by top level sources in the PDP.

Presidential aspirants under the PDP platform include Atiku, former Governor of Kano State and serving Senator, RabiuMusa Kwankwaso; former Governor of Jigawa State and former Foreign Affairs Minister, SuleLamido; former Governor of Kano State and one-time Minister of Education, Ibrahim Shakarau, and former Governor of Kaduna State and erstwhile chairman of the PDP National Caretaker Committee, Ahmed Makarfi.

Others are the former Governor of Sokoto State, AttahiruBafarawa;incumbent Governor ofGombe State, Ibrahim Dankwambo; former Governor of Plateau State and serving Senator, David Jang; former Minister of Special Duties, TanimuTuraki, and a former member of the House of Representatives, AlhajiDatti Baba-Ahmed.

The late entrants are the incumbent Governor of Sokoto State and former Speaker of the House of Representatives, AminuTambuwal, and the Senate President, AbubakarBukolaSaraki. Saraki formally joined the race last Thursday.

Of the above, PDP sources said the only one who would be under pressure to pick a vice presidential candidate from the South-East is Senator Saraki.

But this option is being shot down by the challenge that none of the governors of the South-East extraction would be willing to contribute generously to such campaign as they have been lukewarm in funding party activities in the last three and half years.

A source said this leaves the South-South as the beautiful bride, as their governors have the resources and are willing to fund the party’s activities.

Efforts made to contact the highest ranking member of the PDP National Working Committee (NWC), from the South East, Col. Austin Akobundu (rtd), for comment proved abortive as his lines could not be reached.

However, one of his aides told The AUTHORITY that “the current permutations have shifted attention of political gladiators from the South-East to ferociously tackle one another to grab the Governorship, Senate and House of Representatives tickets.

“I can assure you that the refusal of our people to register as voters is not helping matters. Our people are politically naïve and this is our greatest undoing despite the fact that we believe that Ndigbo are numerically stronger than any other race in this country, given the fact that all over the country, they are next in number to the indigenous people, but we are politically ignorant, believing that political office comes as a matter of logic or rational thinking,” the aide stressed.
Here is the moral of the story for those who care to read and learn.

A father was visited and interviewed by a government agent to collect data for social programs.

The father stated to the agent that he is the head of the family and household. It's him, his wife and six children. The agent made note of this and asked the whereabout of his wife. The man called his wife...Nkem, bia reba. Agent asked for his six children next. The head of family pointed to the flat downhall from him and said Emeka and Ngozi live with my Yoruba neighbour. Chibuzor lives in this flat next door with my Delta neighbour. Ifeanyi is across the road with the Kanuri family. Ada is also across the street with my Hausa friend. The house next door on the street is where Chukwuma lives with our middlebelt brothers. The agent then wrote 8-6 =2 (0 children) for Mr Ikeduru household.

Agent knocked on door next door and spoke with Mr Jacksmith. Head of family called his wife Angelina with his three children and also Chibuzor. The agent made a note, 5+1=6 (4 children).

He went down hall and knocked the door and was greeted by Mr Ayodele. He asked same questions. Ayodele called his wife, Bisi and four children and also called Emeka and Ngozi. Agent wrote 6+2=8 (6 children).

He went out of the building and to house next door. Mr Iyorcha and his Wife Miriam and two children and Chuckwuma were recorded as 4+1=5 (3 children).

At the Kanuri household, Alhaji Bunu had two wives and five children plus Ifeanyi. This makes 8+1=9 (6 children)

At the Hausa household, Alhaji Maikanti has three wives and ten children, added with Ada. Agent put down 14+1=15 (11 children)

Few months after the field exercise govt mailed checques to individual households to help support families. They noticed Mr Ikeduru was the only household with a deficit and called to ask why. In his response Mr Ikeduru said he is far better than his neighbours so he dispatched his children to those other places to help develop their households for them.

Soon after, checques arrived. Other provisions were also distributed - milk, sugar, beverage, canned fish, beans, rice, oil....

Mr Ikeduru now complains that the agency was not fair by giving him the least amount of money. In addition, he felt marginalized and an insult that he did not receive any provision whatsoever for his household.


If you know you know! grin
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by BabaIbo: 4:32pm On Sep 03, 2018
senatordave1:
Please sir,lets not go into this direction.its controversial.lets face the topic.the smartest thing for the east to do is to share their votes
If this topic/news is actually true, even with this rumour, I think sharing of votes is imminent.
Alright.

BTW I know there will be a lot of changes in the way politics is being played in 2019 and beyond...

2019 election will be an interesting one, I pray God keep us alive to witness it, thanks
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by BabaRamota1980: 4:39pm On Sep 03, 2018
raumdeuter:
I think its smarter for PDP to choose the VP from SS.

1. SS has a high number of voters

2. Unlike SE, they do not harbor so much hatred towards APC and If they don't have a strong reason to vote PDP they will vote APC

3. SE will never vote Buhari even if he is the only name on the ballot

So the analysis is this. By choosing a SS VP, You are securing that region of 6 states plus 5 SE states = 11 states. If you choose a SE VP, you will get 5 SE states and possibly lose 2 SS states like Edo or Akwa Ibom so its a huge gamble

PDP should pick Atiku and a SS Vice
A SS vp, of Ibo descent or not?
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by gurnam: 4:49pm On Sep 03, 2018
raumdeuter:
I think its smarter for PDP to choose the VP from SS.

1. SS has a high number of voters

2. Unlike SE, they do not harbor so much hatred towards APC and If they don't have a strong reason to vote PDP they will vote APC

3. SE will never vote Buhari even if he is the only name on the ballot

So the analysis is this. By choosing a SS VP, You are securing that region of 6 states plus 5 SE states = 11 states. If you choose a SE VP, you will get 5 SE states and possibly lose 2 SS states like Edo or Akwa Ibom so its a huge gamble

PDP should pick Atiku and a SS Vice
The problem here is that the so called SS is not as homogeneous in thinking and voting as the name portrays. They were only brought (ganged up) together for the sake of Jonathan.

That is why APC is finding it easier to break into than the SE that have almost same way of thinking politically

Also don’t forget there is no one single Political leader for SS.

Easier to break a group without a known leader
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by BabaIbo: 4:52pm On Sep 03, 2018
raumdeuter:
I think its smarter for PDP to choose the VP from SS.

1. SS has a high number of voters

2. Unlike SE, they do not harbor so much hatred towards APC and If they don't have a strong reason to vote PDP they will vote APC

3. SE will never vote Buhari even if he is the only name on the ballot

So the analysis is this. By choosing a SS VP, You are securing that region of 6 states plus 5 SE states = 11 states. If you choose a SE VP, you will get 5 SE states and possibly lose 2 SS states like Edo or Akwa Ibom so its a huge gamble

PDP should pick Atiku and a SS Vice
You're wrong Mr.

In 1999 every region participated actively in the election because they were all represented in one way or the other.

In 2007, the same thing. It was in 2011 that SW(natives) didn't participate actively because they felt/realized they're not represented in the election(apathy).
In 2015, the SE(natives) didn't participate actively felt/realized that they're not represented in the election, SE boycott/apathy was more visible as it affected the chance of the incumbent government.

And here you are assuming what you don't know, only time will tell.
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by BabaIbo: 4:56pm On Sep 03, 2018
BabaRamota1980:
A SS vp, of Ibo descent or not?
Don't forget the case of Jonathan in a hurry... You can't play on their(SE) intelligent anymore
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by docadams: 4:58pm On Sep 03, 2018
fergie001:
....and why do you say so?
Some things are just not meant for open discuss.
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by raumdeuter: 5:00pm On Sep 03, 2018
BabaRamota1980:
A SS vp, of Ibo descent or not?
Someone acceptable to majority of SS. Maybe like an Akpabio would have been or probably a Donald Duke

Atiku-Duke will win all the SE + SS votes in my opinion
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by raumdeuter: 5:03pm On Sep 03, 2018
gurnam:
The problem here is that the so called SS is not as homogeneous in thinking and voting as the name portrays. They were only brought (ganged up) together for the sake of Jonathan.
That is why APC is finding it easier to break into than the SE that have almost same way of thinking politically
Also don’t forget there is no one single Political leader for SS.
Easier to break a group without a known leader
Though the SS is not homogeneous, they still mostly band together, Their states except Edo have a 20yr history of supporting PDP uninterrupted and no party has been able to break them

Jonathan offered them a rallying point and someone like Duke or Odili(if he had remained active), Ibori(If he didnt go to jail) could have held them together

I dont want PDP to win, I will still support APC but I think their best duo at this point is an Atiku-Duke combination. Many people across the country like Duke and he hasnt had any major scandal even after leaving the governorship seat

Most people dont really hate or have reasons to hate either of them at worst people are just neutral about them unlike Buhari and Tinubu who are either fiercely loved or fiercely hated
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by fergie001(mod): 5:04pm On Sep 03, 2018
docadams:
Some things are just not meant for open discuss.
I und....it is well
Remain blessed
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by raumdeuter: 5:07pm On Sep 03, 2018
BabaIbo:
You're wrong Mr.

In 1999 every region participated actively in the election because they were all represented in one way or the other.

In 2007, the same thing. It was in 2011 that SW(natives) didn't participate actively because they felt/realized they're not represented in the election(apathy).
In 2015, the SE(natives) didn't participate actively felt/realized that they're not represented in the election, SE boycott/apathy was more visible as it affected the chance of the incumbent government.

And here you are assuming what you don't know, only time will tell.
Facts dont support your assetions

Go and pull the number of votes in 1999, 2007 and 2015 in each region and see
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by gurnam:
raumdeuter:
Though the SS is not homogeneous, they still mostly band together, Their states except Edo have a 20yr history of supporting PDP uninterrupted and no party has been able to break them

Jonathan offered them a rallying point and someone like Duke or Odili(if he had remained active), Ibori(If he didnt go to jail) could have held them together

I dont want PDP to win, I will still support APC but I think their best duo at this point is an Atiku-Duke combination. Many people across the country like Duke and he hasnt had any major scandal even after leaving the governorship seat

Most people dont really hate or have reasons to hate either of them at worst people are just neutral about them unlike Buhari and Tinubu who are either fiercely loved or fiercely hated
Very true. Duke will enjoy the support of many of his class of governors and some of his contemporaries in the corporate world. He surely will add more leverage to any PDP candidate.

But PDP will still lose to APC sha grin
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by BabaIbo: 5:14pm On Sep 03, 2018
raumdeuter:
Facts dont support your assetions

Go and pull the number of votes in 1999, 2007 and 2015 in each region and see
I think you're the one that needs to check 1999 -2011 election results, except for 2015 till now, where there's a report of apathy/boycott.

Or you want me to remind you that Lagos is a diverse state when it comes to population, a good reminder is the threat of your oba back then in Lagos and also the plea of other contestants in other regions, even other SW states.
You don't need to fake ignorance Mr man
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by BabaIbo: 5:16pm On Sep 03, 2018
raumdeuter:
Someone acceptable to majority of SS. Maybe like an Akpabio would have been or probably a Donald Duke

Atiku-Duke will win all the SE + SS votes in my opinion
Keep dreaming
Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by goaldynboy: 5:17pm On Sep 03, 2018
lextube:
[s]http://authorityngr.com/2018/09/03/vp-slot-pdp-goes-to-south-west/[/s]

Fake News! If PDP wants to fail, let them zone the VP slot outside Southeast! They will realise that Southeasterners are not Zombie!

Re: VP Slot: PDP Goes To South West by BabaRamota1980: 5:19pm On Sep 03, 2018
raumdeuter:
Someone acceptable to majority of SS. Maybe like an Akpabio would have been or probably a Donald Duke

Atiku-Duke will win all the SE + SS votes in my opinion
What makes you think Atiku is best to carry PDP Flag?
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