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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by KevinDein: 3:54pm On Sep 02, 2018
Roland17:


We have been saying it since Wenger experimented it. Both strikers worked for each other especially Lacazette, they rotated positions and ensured there was a striker in the box at all times. I don't care who drops to the bench, Torreria needs to start against Newcastle. As for our defense, it looks worse than last season so far and the goalkeeping corundum only makes the situation more terrifying.
@ the emboldened, that's what you get when you play xhaka and Guendouzi at the same time, both of whom lack defensive qualities. The saving grace is that we seem to create tons of chances so I expect us to outscore many of our opponents. We will however be in trouble against teams with decent attackers.

Emery should start Torreira, ALWAYS
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by sod09(m): 3:57pm On Sep 02, 2018
ndidibabe I'm sorry for the outburst we had...what do you think about the team
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by sod09(m): 3:58pm On Sep 02, 2018
KevinDein:

@ the emboldened, that's what you get when you play xhaka and Guendouzi at the same time, both of whom lack defensive qualities. The saving grace is that we seem to create tons of chances so I expect us to outscore many of our opponents. We will however be in trouble against teams with decent attackers.

Emery should start Torreira, ALWAYS
he should also try Leno out, liechteiner ahead of bellerin too
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 5:49pm On Sep 02, 2018
Xhaka is no DM nor is he good enough in an attacking sense.Arsenal can’t afford to rely on Xhaka in a two man midfield because he’s not reliable in terms of possessing the ball under pressure.He’s used as a DM so that he won’t have to be relied upon heavily in attack.All he can do is pass the ball upfield and nothing much apart from that.So since he’s not good in defense or good in attack what should we do?Sell him!
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 5:56pm On Sep 02, 2018
Auba at RW will not work.This is against Cardiff which is a real candidate for relegation.Against a top team any decent RB shuts him down easily.Why are we trying to shoehorn them both in one team?Their best position is CF and no other position.I hate seeing us doing the same thing but expect different results.

Now there’s absolutely zero penetration from RW and LW due to Auba and Ozil respectively.Its my opinion.I don’t buy into this playing them together thing because so know it won’t work and today is only a sign of things to come.Also don’t forget it’s against potential relegation candidates Cardiff.

Auba was poor.If Gervinho gave his performance today people will be calling for his head.He was bad and if he hadn’t scored I’d have called his performance average.Was also bad on the wing under Wenger but stats covered up for him.I mean what kind of team do we have?Players placed in wrong positions all over the pitch and we expect them to do well.I didn’t see anything which tells me I’ll be wrong.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 6:05pm On Sep 02, 2018
This Laca and Auba starting together thing is overrated.Auba’s goals will paper over the cracks and I’m sure people will forget his performance and look on that.I said here several times that Laca and Auba in the same team won’t work and that it should be one of them not both.

Auba is not that good of a winger because he cant beat his man one vs one very well and is poor in a creative sense.Please dont let the goals stats at Dortmund deceive you.He became world class at CF not RW.If Auba was still playing as a winger at Dortmund chances are he would never have moved to a top team.

I’d easily start Welbeck,Iwobi,Nelson and Mkitaryan over Auba at RW not because they are world class but because they offer more.Face the truth that it should be one of Auba or Laca not both.

Quite alright, Auba or laca will likely score any goal scoring chance around the box but that won't blind me, Giroud flicked many balls that lead to our goals, welbeck flicked similar for Auba last year and that isn't a biggie among forward players..

We lacked creativity, mhicky was missed, our final third was dull,unlike our first 3 games where we created tones of chances.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by pazienza(m): 7:34pm On Sep 02, 2018
I could have sworn I saw the same comments as above, verbatim, at justarsenal.com.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Hardetayour: 7:36pm On Sep 02, 2018
Arsenal should just move to 352 formation. Play to our strengths and guide or weakness.

Leno
Mustafi Sokratis Mavro
BELLERIN Monreal
Torreira Guendouzi Ramsey
Auba Laca

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by sod09(m): 7:56pm On Sep 02, 2018
Since we don't have a natural winger ATM, we can do with auba there till January...since our defense is leaky we can do with plenty goals like someone said we have to keep outscoring our opponents
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 8:17pm On Sep 02, 2018
In addressing I could have sworn I saw the same comments as above, verbatim, at justarsenal.com. by @pazienza

@Fkhalifa, except you are Kev from justarsenal.com, please stop plagiarizing intellectual material. Let’s be original and if you choose to copy contents, especially verbatim kindly give credit to the source.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 8:20pm On Sep 02, 2018
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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Lana1(m): 8:24pm On Sep 02, 2018
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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 8:37pm On Sep 02, 2018
Roland17:
In addressing I could have sworn I saw the same comments as above, verbatim, at justarsenal.com. by @pazienza

@Fkhalifa, except you are Kev from justarsenal.com, please stop plagiarizing intellectual material. Let’s be original and if you choose to copy contents, especially verbatim kindly give credit to the source.

bro I do make reference, but I added to the write up and its a fan's opinion in tandem to what I stand for, I just saved stress.

I'm nah kev,but dude he's me in thought and views grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 8:38pm On Sep 02, 2018
cheesy grin whizKhalifa
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 8:38pm On Sep 02, 2018
Fkhalifa:
bro I do make reference, but I added to the write up and its a fan's opinion in tandem to what I stand for, I just saved stress.
next time u give credit. You don’t copy verbatim and not give credit.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 8:44pm On Sep 02, 2018
Fkhalifa:
bro I do make reference, but I added to the write up and its a fan's opinion in tandem to what I stand for, I just saved stress.

I'm nah kev,but dude he's me in thought and views grin

Abeg try credit the source silly verbatim. E no easy to make creative statements or arguments for or against any topic.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 8:55pm On Sep 02, 2018
kokaneprodigy:
next time u give credit. You don’t copy verbatim and not give credit.
Come and penalize me then uncle, cheesy :PI frequent that site and many others, The moment I saw the post analysing what I felt, I added the last paragraph saved stress and pasted it here..

I could have acknowledged on another day, I was more interested in the points he buttressed explicitly..

Unfortunately, they turned it to a thesis defence seminar issue.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 8:57pm On Sep 02, 2018
Roland17:


Abeg try credit the source silly verbatim. E no easy to make creative statements or arguments for or against any topic.
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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 9:01pm On Sep 02, 2018
Fkhalifa:
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I meant to type especially there oh and not “silly”. I am typing from my phon na him cause am.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 9:06pm On Sep 02, 2018
Roland17:


I meant to type especially there oh and not “silly”. I am typing from my phon na him cause am.
I get your point bro.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 11:44pm On Sep 03, 2018
Fkhalifa:
This Laca and Auba starting together thing is overrated.Auba’s goals will paper over the cracks and I’m sure people will forget his performance and look on that.I said here several times that Laca and Auba in the same team won’t work and that it should be one of them not both.

Auba is not that good of a winger because he cant beat his man one vs one very well and is poor in a creative sense.Please dont let the goals stats at Dortmund deceive you.He became world class at CF not RW.If Auba was still playing as a winger at Dortmund chances are he would never have moved to a top team.

I’d easily start Welbeck,Iwobi,Nelson and Mkitaryan over Auba at RW not because they are world class but because they offer more.Face the truth that it should be one of Auba or Laca not both.

Quite alright, Auba or laca will likely score any goal scoring chance around the box but that won't blind me, Giroud flicked many balls that lead to our goals, welbeck flicked similar for Auba last year and that isn't a biggie among forward players..

We lacked creativity, mhicky was missed, our final third was dull,unlike our first 3 games where we created tones of chances.
Auba and Lacazette can play together without any playing on the wings.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 5:53am On Sep 04, 2018
Spy360:

Auba and Lacazette can play together without any playing on the wings.
No, it won't work, neither of them can do a thiery on the ball, Henri excelled in a 2 forward formation because he can fall deep, get the ball,run at defenders,bully them with height, shoot with either foot from any angle and and as well create chances...

I doubt either of the 2 could do half that job..

This isn't 1999 football,The use of fast,creative and goal scoring wingers is the in thing amongst the big and succesful football clubs

Cardiff didn't even pack the bus,yet our attack footy wasn't sharp,no threat from the wings nor the middle, not much on target shots...

Auba clearly had a below average game aside from the beautiful goal,Iwobi and michy would have faired better.

Both strikers are good in the box and can finish brilliantly, I say stick them to the CF position.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 4:41pm On Sep 04, 2018
Fkhalifa:
No, it won't work, neither of them can do a thiery on the ball, Henri excelled in a 2 forward formation because he can fall deep, get the ball,run at defenders,bully them with height, shoot with either foot from any angle and and as well create chances...

I doubt either of the 2 could do half that job..

This isn't 1999 football,The use of fast,creative and goal scoring wingers is the in thing amongst the big and succesful football clubs

Cardiff didn't even pack the bus,yet our attack footy wasn't sharp,no threat from the wings nor the middle, not much on target shots...

Auba clearly had a below average game aside from the beautiful goal,Iwobi and michy would have faired better.

Both strikers are good in the box and can finish brilliantly, I say stick them to the CF position.
You probably didn't get me. Both can be used as double strikers without playing on the wings.

As for your Henry analogy, you probably haven't seen much of both strikers especially at their former clubs. Both are deadly poachers and are fast on the ball.

Henry wasn't all that skillful mind you, he only uses his pace to get past defenders. Henry too was a winger converted to a striker, which gave him a unique status away from the usual big CF we know. And both Lacazette and Aubameyang are same mode as Henry except that Henry was best of the three.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by KevinDein: 6:18pm On Sep 04, 2018
Unai Emery is smart enough to know when to start both Auba and Lacazette. Against the better teams he'll must likely go with a lone striker and an extra midfielder. He tweaks his system to fit the opponent. That's one major difference between him and Wenger.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 7:36pm On Sep 04, 2018
Spy360:

You probably didn't get me. Both can be used as double strikers without playing on the wings.

As for your Henry analogy, you probably haven't seen much of both strikers especially at their former clubs. Both are deadly poachers and are fast on the ball.

Henry wasn't all that skillful mind you, he only uses his pace to get past defenders. Henry too was a winger converted to a striker, which gave him a unique status away from the usual big CF we know. And both Lacazette and Aubameyang are same mode as Henry except that Henry was best of the three.
Double strikers means one drops deep or drifts to the wings, we can't have 2target men waiting for the ball..that's suicidal...

At their former clubs,they were brilliant for their scoring ability as a CF and that's that about them..

Bro, IGWE has more skills than the duo,remember his goal at the Madrid,he alone ran ragged that defence and I don't think Auba/laca have strength for such.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 7:42pm On Sep 04, 2018
KevinDein:
Unai Emery is smart enough to know when to start both Auba and Lacazette. Against the better teams he'll must likely go with a lone striker and an extra midfielder. He tweaks his system to fit the opponent. That's one major difference between him and Wenger.

Exactly, he gave it a trial, since Cardiff wasn't supposed to pose much threat and can be experimented against...

I noticed pep started Aguero/Jesus against the castles, but was quick to sub off one of them for a winger when the result wasn't going his way.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 11:38pm On Sep 04, 2018
Fkhalifa:
Double strikers means one drops deep or drifts to the wings, we can't have 2target men waiting for the ball..that's suicidal...

At their former clubs,they were brilliant for their scoring ability as a CF and that's that about them..

Bro, IGWE has more skills than the duo,remember his goal at the Madrid,he alone ran ragged that defence and I don't think Auba/laca have strength for such.
Bros with due respect, how long have you been watching football? You can have TWO target men if you want.
Though for the case in question, Aubameyang prefers to play off a target man due to his superior pace and positioning.

As for Henry, agreed he has more skills than both strikers we have now, but generally your igwe was still average. Against Madrid at Benabeu, it was his pace that got him past the defenders rather than pure skills.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 11:40pm On Sep 04, 2018
KevinDein:
Unai Emery is smart enough to know when to start both Auba and Lacazette. Against the better teams he'll must likely go with a lone striker and an extra midfielder. He tweaks his system to fit the opponent. That's one major difference between him and Wenger.

I trust Emery but mistakes can still be made.

For example based on what is he still starting Xhaka ahead of Torriera?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 6:17am On Sep 05, 2018
Spy360:

Bros with due respect, how long have you been watching football? You can have TWO target men if you want.
Though for the case in question, Aubameyang prefers to play off a target man due to his superior pace and positioning.

As for Henry, agreed he has more skills than both strikers we have now, but generally your igwe was still average. Against Madrid at Benabeu, it was his pace that got him past the defenders rather than pure skills.
I give up.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by patrickmuf(m): 7:14am On Sep 05, 2018
Spy360:

Bros with due respect, how long have you been watching football? You can have TWO target men if you want.
Though for the case in question, Aubameyang prefers to play off a target man due to his superior pace and positioning.

As for Henry, agreed he has more skills than both strikers we have now, but generally your igwe was still average. Against Madrid at Benabeu, it was his pace that got him past the defenders rather than pure skills.
If you must play two CF, then you should have flying wingers and two very good CMs with ability to defend and pass the ball effortlessly e.g Modric and Kante but you don't have such quality wingers in Arsenal so, playing 2 CFs is like harming yourself...
As for Henry's goal at the Bernabeu, it wasn't all pace as you think, it takes a special skills to move with the ball at pace, Auba has pace but he would struggle to score that goal every day...
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 8:02am On Sep 05, 2018
patrickmuf:
If you must play two CF, then you should have flying wingers and two very good CMs with ability to defend and pass the ball effortlessly e.g Modric and Kante but you don't have such quality wingers in Arsenal so, playing 2 CFs is like harming yourself...
As for Henry's goal at the Bernabeu, it wasn't all pace as you think, it takes a special skills to move with the ball at pace, Auba has pace but he would struggle to score that goal every day...
Thank you sir..

2CF? When it's not 1998 football, managers only risk it when desperately in search for goal towards end of match..

Guendozi's left arm is enough to sweep Auba away off the ball, grin , IGWE was complete and blessed with all attributes required of a striker.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by KevinDein: 9:21am On Sep 05, 2018
Spy360:

I trust Emery but mistakes can still be made.

For example based on what is he still starting Xhaka ahead of Torriera?
Maybe Emery intends to slowly ease him into the team. In any case Torreira's performance so far should see him start games; but along with Xhaka in place of Guendouzi. The kid is very talented and has the potential to be a great midfielder one day but he lacks positional discipline at the moment.

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