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Re: Presidential Panel To Recover $7bn Bailout Funds From Banks by naijapips04: 8:39am On Sep 08, 2018
contigiency:
It's ok, anyone interested can further verify the news from the link. meanwhile, the statement that "it was because of this that AMCON was created by PDP government" that PDP there was not necessary. unless you are showing simparty to the party. Just the fact that AMCON was established by the government for issues like this would have been ok. else, it will make your contributions on the matter look bias.
The government created a body whose sole aim was to recover and manage these loans and your people are here claiming PDP did nothing.
Re: Presidential Panel To Recover $7bn Bailout Funds From Banks by vedaxcool(m): 8:40am On Sep 08, 2018
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Makawhizzy:
Let's hear the other side of the story from the banks. FG lies too much for me to just believe them these days. They manufacture figures anyhow just to paint opposition black many a times so till those banks speak and tell us their side of the story we don't want another TSA desperado move that brought this country to her knees finally
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I did know I was conversing with a corruption sympathiser. Any human being that considers TSA desperado move simply is out of his depth intellectually. Government was wasting it resources borrowing from the same banks which held its money. TSA brought a stop to that. Banks are now in the opposition? Oga please park well and ponder on what you are saying.
Re: Presidential Panel To Recover $7bn Bailout Funds From Banks by Sunmolar(m): 8:47am On Sep 08, 2018
banks will make customers pay for these.
Re: Presidential Panel To Recover $7bn Bailout Funds From Banks by Alzirida(f): 9:07am On Sep 08, 2018
patani:
How will they collapse when the claim to make 200billion naira Profit each last year. Please let government recover it from their false claimed profit instead of being shared amount shareholders. Zenith Bank alone claimed to have made close to 200billion naira PAT, GT thesame. Even a tier 2 bank like stanbic claimed to make 49billion. Please let them pay

It is sad bro.
Managing banks in Naija is not that easy .cost of diesel etcetera etcetera.
First bank cant even subscribe their DSTV
Re: Presidential Panel To Recover $7bn Bailout Funds From Banks by slowie(m): 9:18am On Sep 08, 2018
naijapips04:
I'm sorry I tried. I can't make sense of this nonsense you wrote. You can write Yoruba for me dude, I can read that.

Loans have repayment plans. That banks are still owing a portion of the loans doesn't mean they were not repaying anything as your paymasters are making us believe.

You are too dull for this discuss man. Your principle should tell us what the terms of the loans are and how many banks have defaulted and not making bracket statement to rail up propaganda.

And according to you, its all because of Jonathans corruption. You are just too dull.

https://allafrica.com/stories/201108100374.html
Maybe you should read the article again. Enquiry showed that the banks claimed the money was suppose to be dashed to them by fg, hence they are not suppose to pat back. The last time I checked banks are owned by private individuals they should pay back public fund but the govt can reschedule it for them.
Re: Presidential Panel To Recover $7bn Bailout Funds From Banks by windwayltd: 9:24am On Sep 08, 2018
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Re: Presidential Panel To Recover $7bn Bailout Funds From Banks by LordAdam16: 9:32am On Sep 08, 2018
contigiency:
People are just writing all sorts of sentimental stuff, calling names just because government of buhari is involved in this needed sanity in the country.

I want any one that can prove that any bank in Nigeria has ever dashed him money to put in his business. or has even loaned him money with favourable conditions just for him to put his business. If not after asking for bogus collateral, they will still charge you high interest rates of above 20% and also mandate you to return the money on or before 4years.

So In this case, where is the moral justification for not paying back such huge amount given without interest after 13years. And they are now saying it's a free money. Please they should pay without further delay.
Are you so thick that you can't independently verify information?

There's no way CBN will leave $7b for banks since 2008. Heritage and Mainstreet bank have paid theirs. These banks have only N25b each with the CBN and you think they'd pay off 4 trillion in how many years?

The id*ot Oblong whatever is being clever by half. If any staff in the CBN told him the money was given out as a freebie, that individual should be locked up. Because it invariably means the money the banks have been paying since then may not have been returned to the FG coffers like the NNPC nonsense.

This unidirectional trash is why corruption is so massive under this administration. Someone of his standing can independently verify any claim made by the CBN. No CBN staff born of a woman woulda told NOI that rubbish and have a job by the end of the month. That is the height of ridicule, and I'm sure Emefiele will sort it out in due course.

Every year the banks contribute hundreds of billions into the Banking Sector Resolution Cost Fund to absorb the cost of the financial crises. In 2016, it was N136 billion. Moghalu who is a Presidential Candidate for 2019 was the CBN Deputy Governor in charge of Financial System Stability when that Fund was set up.

It is disgusting that these f*cktards will play politics with everything. MTN was downgraded by Moody because of the repatriation controversy, now they are coming up with this trash when all the facts are freely available. That uninformed tw#ts like you will swallow it line, hook, and sinker is not surprising. The average Nigerian is daft beyond belief and wouldn't take the 5 minutes necessary to verify a piece of information.

-Lord
Re: Presidential Panel To Recover $7bn Bailout Funds From Banks by Ihateyoumod: 9:33am On Sep 08, 2018
naijapips04:
Nobody was going to dash anybody money. Its a loan dammit!

Im sure there were repayment plan agreed with the banks. What Buhari is trying to do now is swoop on them and demand they pay everything in the name of fighting corruption. Same thing he did with TSA that took us into recession. We are about to repeat that circle again.
Wetin dey do u....r u high on something.... Is this not more than 10 years that this loan was given. From the write up did d banks have ny intention of paying back??....if they all saw it as dash then what stupid repayment plan r u talking about. How r u sure there was a repayment plan?? Or u just wanna defend PDP.

This country just tire me, tirllionsnof naira given to private individuals to live large, u defend them, #10,000 given to petty traders, u wail and cry that it should not be. How did we get here
Re: Presidential Panel To Recover $7bn Bailout Funds From Banks by Ihateyoumod: 9:34am On Sep 08, 2018
oldtruth:
Nigerians are funny set of people. This present knows how to toy with their brains.

The news is already out without them recovering the funds yet. This is Nigerians will celebrate. The fund won't be recovered and nothing will be heard about it any more.

However, gullible Nigerians will be masturbating on this proposed recovery for the next one year without asking questions if truly the funds were later recovered.

It is disheartening what this country has turned to and a total shame
This govt has been know to recover public funds...so this excuse is a no no for me
Re: Presidential Panel To Recover $7bn Bailout Funds From Banks by kitaatita: 9:35am On Sep 08, 2018
Alzirida:
I implore FG to trade with caution
Even through its the right thing to do however they should be given more time to avoid collapse
They would have concluded payment if they wanted to pay at all, instead they were declaring jumbo profits
Re: Presidential Panel To Recover $7bn Bailout Funds From Banks by kitaatita: 9:36am On Sep 08, 2018
Makawhizzy:
Between allowing the banks to collapse and borrowing them to scale through tough times which one is better? Be objective
It is a good thing to have bailed them out but they should pay back now. The system has recovered
Re: Presidential Panel To Recover $7bn Bailout Funds From Banks by Ihateyoumod: 9:39am On Sep 08, 2018
naijapips04:
Shut up fool. The banks have been paying up I'm part annually. Many of the has designated N50 billion to service these loans. Buhari making it an item now means he want to swoop on the banks and take everything.
Because u r part of d presidential recovery panel....u r even their chairman, u were d one DT set up d meeting with cbn and drew up a payment plan for the banks..... Guy yu r daft
Re: Presidential Panel To Recover $7bn Bailout Funds From Banks by naijapips04: 9:41am On Sep 08, 2018
slowie:
Maybe you should read the article again. Enquiry showed that the banks claimed the money was suppose to be dashed to them by fg, hence they are not suppose to pat back. The last time I checked banks are owned by private individuals they should pay back public fund but the govt can reschedule it for them.
Which stupid article is that? Stop reading APC propaganda. These banks have been repaying these loans the the year after they borrowed them.
Re: Presidential Panel To Recover $7bn Bailout Funds From Banks by LordAdam16: 9:42am On Sep 08, 2018
slowie:
Maybe you should read the article again. Enquiry showed that the banks claimed the money was suppose to be dashed to them by fg, hence they are not suppose to pat back. The last time I checked banks are owned by private individuals they should pay back public fund but the govt can reschedule it for them.
Maybe you should check through whatever you type before attempting to correct someone else. According to the article, it was the CBN that claimed the money "was dashed." The banks can't claim that because they've been paying back, two tier-2 banks have paid back completely.

And I doubt anyone at the CBN remotely connected to the bailout program will tell that educated illiterate such. I would not be surprised he misrepresented whatever he was told. For example, some of the chronic NPLs by the banks were assumed by the AMCON who pursue the creditors independently. If the AMCON is unable to collect the debt, it'd be written off as a loss. And since the AMCON is owned by the FG, it'd appear as though the FG dashed money.

This is what happens when id*ots who have no financial background hold sensitive positions and make silly, unverifiable statements simply to play politics.

-Lord
Re: Presidential Panel To Recover $7bn Bailout Funds From Banks by Ihateyoumod: 9:44am On Sep 08, 2018
naijapips04:
Some banks have already cleared thier debts. Check this story

https://allafrica.com/stories/201108100374.html

Others are paying N50 billion annually to service this loan.

http://sunnewsonline.com/cbn-spends-over-n3trn-in-8-years-bailing-out-banks/

Moreover it is because of this same reason AMCON was created by the PDP government.
This one is just playing politics with the issue. He is covering for PDP. Guys if buhari leaves power today, do u guys think anybody will talk bout this money again??.....the moni don go. Trillions of public fund in d hands of a few individuals and yet we cry why we r d headquarters of poverty.

God will judge u for not standing on the path of truth. What is annoying me is that this same fellow will fault the 10000 given to petty traders
Re: Presidential Panel To Recover $7bn Bailout Funds From Banks by patani(m): 9:46am On Sep 08, 2018
Alzirida:

It is sad bro.
Managing banks in Naija is not that easy .cost of diesel etcetera etcetera.
First bank cant even subscribe their DSTV
Hahahahaha. So are u saying those profits declared were fake? There is no how a bank would not be able to subscribe for DSTV. i guess someone is not doing his or her job that’s it.
Re: Presidential Panel To Recover $7bn Bailout Funds From Banks by Ihateyoumod: 9:47am On Sep 08, 2018
naijapips04:
What different thing dolt?

And yes the rushed implementation of TSA by the buhari government is one of reasons we entered into recession.
But u pple accredit the success of TSA to d past administration. That it is one of GEJs policy. But u r quick to say the adverse effect it had on the country is buharis fault....hypocrisy
Re: Presidential Panel To Recover $7bn Bailout Funds From Banks by CodeTemplar: 9:50am On Sep 08, 2018
Mosesm:
PDP is a curse!
Soludo.
Re: Presidential Panel To Recover $7bn Bailout Funds From Banks by Nobody: 9:50am On Sep 08, 2018
dingbang:
Money dey this country sha o
Yeah, too much money in circulation and it will be worse during election.
Re: Presidential Panel To Recover $7bn Bailout Funds From Banks by CodeTemplar: 9:55am On Sep 08, 2018
jomoh:
This is very shocking if it actually came from the CBN. It means the PDP government must have packaged the money in form of dashing the banks in order for them to corner the funds outside the government.

Where in the world is it done that the government dash banks money.

Imagine even CBN of all bodies giving such a reply. It means it must have been documented as a gift. $7billion about 4trillion Naira today’s money.

Thank God for giving us Buhari.
The term used then was deposit. It was argued that the money could be saved in local banks to increase their deposits as against foreign accounts.
Re: Presidential Panel To Recover $7bn Bailout Funds From Banks by Osgilliat(m): 10:17am On Sep 08, 2018
jomoh:
This is very shocking if it actually came from the CBN. It means the PDP government must have packaged the money in form of dashing the banks in order for them to corner the funds outside the government.

Where in the world is it done that the government dash banks money.

Imagine even CBN of all bodies giving such a reply. It means it must have been documented as a gift. $7billion about 4trillion Naira today’s money.

Thank God for giving us Buhari.
That’s why our politicians borrow billions from banks with the mindset of not paying back the loans because government DASH commercial banks $7billion. What a country!!
Re: Presidential Panel To Recover $7bn Bailout Funds From Banks by veesion: 10:41am On Sep 08, 2018
metronaija2:
The Special Presidential Panel for the Recovery of Public Property is to recover the seven billion dollars bailout fund granted commercial banks between 2006 and 2008.

The panel Chairman, Mr Okoi Obono-Obla, said in Abuja on Friday that the banks had yet to refund the money over a decade after.

Obono-Obla said that the bailout fund was not a gift to the commercial banks and so must be recovered and returned to government’s coffers.

“We are currently doing a lot of investigations to recover monies that have been taken away from the people of Nigeria.
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“One of them is the almost seven billion dollars bailout fund that the Central Bank of Nigeria granted commercial banks in 2006, 2007 and 2008.

“After 13 years or so, these commercial banks have not returned that money to the coffers of the Federal Government of Nigeria.

“When we enquired from the CBN the status of that money, the banks told us that the money was ‘dashed’ (given free) to the commercial banks,’’ he said.

The panel chairman said that the money belonged to the people of Nigeria and so could not be given away like that to commercial banks owned by private individuals.
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He pledged the panel’s determination to recover the money and return it to the Federal Government.

Obono-Obla said the panel was also in the process of recovering a large piece of land belonging to a parastatal agency under the Federal Ministry of Agriculture and Rural Development.

“That land was encroached upon, parcelled out and sold by unpatriotic people.

`I can assure you that we are going to recover it and prosecute all those who are responsible.

“We are also investigating and in the process of recovering a lot of landed property belongìng to the Nigerian Ports Authority (NPA) in Calabar, Warri, Koko, Sapele and Lagos ports.
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“We are equally doing recoveries for the Federal Mortgage Bank of Nigeria, and other federal government agencies, across the country,’’ the panel chairman said.

He called on Nigerians to assist the panel with information that could lead to the recovery of stolen public property by unpatriotic individuals.

https://www.metronaija.ng/presidential-panel-to-recover-7bn-bailout-funds-from-banks/
Buari government hunting for election money up and down,
The Masses are being deceived into thinking say na their money
Re: Presidential Panel To Recover $7bn Bailout Funds From Banks by larex007(m): 1:40pm On Sep 08, 2018
naijapips04:
Daft statements like this get me mad. So PDP lent banks billion of dollars to avoid them collapsing after the global financial crisis and that's criminal?

You think you can just wake up and damand that banks pay back trillions of Naira?

Buhari is just daft. Most of our banks are struggling. Asking them to payback this trillions would just crash many of them and take us back to recession.

The way these Buharis dolts reason is just disgusting.
You are a dullard.... The same financial institution declared billions of profit yearly, pay there staff peanut, Director share profit yearly.... I know someone that got 80M has profit.....
Re: Presidential Panel To Recover $7bn Bailout Funds From Banks by mechanics(m): 4:01pm On Sep 08, 2018
dingbang:
Money dey this country sha o
Sure.
Re: Presidential Panel To Recover $7bn Bailout Funds From Banks by nairamaniac: 9:51am On Sep 09, 2018
patani:
TSA took you into recession? Haba!!! Eberu’Olohun fa. Better go and read basic economy or revisit what Okonjo Iweala said just before 2015 election about how money was being borrowed to pay federal givernement workers salary. Bros, Bros bros abeg
naijapips04 is right, the unstrategised implementation of TSA was of greater effect than a lot of other things to have led us to recession.
Re: Presidential Panel To Recover $7bn Bailout Funds From Banks by patani(m): 1:21pm On Sep 09, 2018
nairamaniac:
naijapips04 is right, the unstrategised implementation of TSA was of greater effect than a lot of other things to have led us to recession.
Please analyze and stop commenting based on sentiments
Re: Presidential Panel To Recover $7bn Bailout Funds From Banks by ozo13(m): 2:14pm On Sep 09, 2018
Makawhizzy:
Between allowing the banks to collapse and borrowing them to scale through tough times which one is better? Be objective
chairman all dis banks have money ooo. Zenith bank ALONE presently I think is Worth $10billion or so.so the proper thing for the banks to do is to return our money as they are since out of the tough time .$7billion can do a lot to our decayed infrastructure.
Re: Presidential Panel To Recover $7bn Bailout Funds From Banks by nairamaniac: 2:29pm On Sep 09, 2018
patani:
Please analyze and stop commenting based on sentiments
I am APC than anything else.
But I admit wrong wen spotted.

Sudden Implementation of Treasury Single Account (TSA)- This policy threw the banking and financial sector into turmoil as huge sums were swept out of banks and dormantly stashed into a preferred safe.


The industry that recorded the most number of job-losses was the bank industry.

Also, most trades, turn-overs, businesses, contracts by individual/companies are done thru the banks.

The immediate mop out of that cash created a sudden vacuum which kept all those mentioned factors at a standstill over a period of time, till the banks could catch up.

When a bank that is suppose to have 1trillion naira and can release 10billion to the economy thru its customers cannot release even 10million naira, it causes over-valuation of monies that are readily available or in circulation which leads to inflation and recession.

The goverment should and should have treaded more carefully with banks, cos they handle/hold more than 80% of money that goes in and out of circulation.
Re: Presidential Panel To Recover $7bn Bailout Funds From Banks by Validated: 6:44pm On Sep 09, 2018
The dullard and his masturbating zombies are hallucinating over something they know nothing about. What stops these people from publishing how much was given to banks and what efforts they have made to recover these funds? For the avoidance of any doubts, these funds were given to these banks to manage. They are like deposits and President Buhari and APC were never in the dark about it. See FOI request on this since July 2015, which Buhari has NOT RESPONDED TO: Our APC zombie and lazy yoots would rather blame PDP than use their heads.

APC and Obla of a scam would rather give you half baked news in the name of fighting corruption. Please, read below request to Buhari since 2015, which he never remembered:

"July15, 2015

President Muhammadu Buhari
Nigerian Presidential Complex
Aso Rock Presidential Villa
Abuja

Your Excellency,

RE: $7 BILLION ‘SOFT LOAN’ GRANTED TO CONSORTIUM OF BANKERS IN 2006 BY THE CBN

Civil Society Network Against Corruption (CSNAC) is a coalition of over hundred and fifty Anti-corruption organizations whose primary aim is to constructively combat corruption vigorously and to ensure the effective monitoring of the various Anti-graft agencies in the fight against corruption and contribute towards the enthronement of transparency, accountability, probity and total commitment in the fight to eradicate corruption in Nigeria.

On October 4th 2006, the Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN), through its Head of Corporate Affairs, Mr. Festus Odoko had disclosed that the CBN had apportioned $7billion out of the nation’s external reserves, which stood at $38.07 billion, as at the end of July, 2006, to 14 global asset managers and their 14 Nigerian banks local partners, to manage. The amount reportedly bequeathed to the asset managers represented 18.39 per cent of the total external reserves and was hitherto kept with foreign banks.

The 14 global asset managers and their local counterparts were
i. Black Rock and Union Bank of Nigeria Plc;
ii. J.P. Morgan Chase and Zenith Bank Plc;
iii. H.S.B.C and; First Bank of Nigeria Plc;
iv. BNP Paribas and Intercontinental Bank Plc;
v. UBS and United Bank for Africa Plc;
vi. Credit Suisse and IBTC Chartered Bank Plc;
vii. Morgan Stanley and Guaranty Trust Bank Plc;
viii. Fortis and Bank PHB Plc;
ix. Investec and Fidelity Bank Plc;
x. ABN Amro and Access Bank Plc;
xi. Cominvest and Oceanic Bank Plc;
xii. ING and Ecobank Plc;
xiii. Bank of New York and Stanbic Bank Plc and;
xiv. Crown Agents and Diamond Bank Plc.

According to the reports, CBN gave each asset manager, $500m of the external reserves to manage. Almost nine years after this pronouncement, no public report or account has been rendered by CBN on these the $500 million given to each of the banks. Also realizing that 3 of the banks (Intercontinental Bank, Bank PHB and Oceanic) were bought over by other banks and or liquidated between 2006 and now."
- Copied


[b]This prompted CSNAC in a letter dated, June 17, 2015 (sent through IFEX Express Limited Postal service, with their assurance that the letter got to destination on June 25th, 2015), under the Freedom of Information Act, to request for information on the $7billion ‘soft loan’ granted to the aforementioned 14 consortium of bankers. Under the Freedom of Information (FOI) Act, 2011, which stipulates that such information should be received within 7 days to the applicants. However, till today ... after confirmation of delivery to the CBN governor, no acknowledgment or response from the apex bank has been received by our organisation.

The Bank’s non-response reeks of deceit and lack of transparency. Perhaps, those involved assume Nigerians suffers collective amnesia and will not remember. We do remember and we are asking questions without answers. CSNAC is hereby requesting that the Presidency probes this matter and inform Nigerians exactly what is going on or has gone wrong with the $7 billion soft loan.[/b]

Instead of Obla to come out and mis-inform the public, he should help ask CBN and Buhari to provide answers to the letter above and tell Nigerains where the proceeds of these deposits since they took office in 2015 have been received into. Also, most of the affected banks and foreign counterparts are still around. Why announce recovery plan before actionhuh Typical APC approach of crying "corruption fight" before reasoning!
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