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Re: Foreign Reserves Decline By $2.3bn In 11 Weeks by Buterflyle0: 5:09pm On Sep 09, 2018
Anyad231:
on point, amaechi led that crusade to share the funds which was eventually used 4 buhari campaign. ..and d ex governors should shows us what those funds were used for...we keep deceiving and lamenting while these guys are cleaning out our future.
Stop being misinformed. We are talking about foreign reserves and you are busy talking about sovereign account.

Stop talking silly
Re: Foreign Reserves Decline By $2.3bn In 11 Weeks by SarcasticGenius(m): 5:10pm On Sep 09, 2018
This one be heavy duty o. Over 2.3 billion dollars in 11 weeks, while Sambo Dasuki is on trial for 2.1 billion stolen over 3 years. APC una be masters for fvckery.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dmqg7bwUcAAaq60.jpg
Re: Foreign Reserves Decline By $2.3bn In 11 Weeks by theoldpretender(m): 5:12pm On Sep 09, 2018
preciousfeb:
Please stop giving wrong information. Oil price has been over $70 in the past one year. The crude oil price plunge happened early 2015 to mid 2016. The Oil price has since then kept increasing. Don't back a corrupt govt with unfavorable decimals. You are sure one of those benefitting from this corrupt govt from all indications.
Nigeria needs oil at $139 per barrel to not borrow...and to stay afolat.

Oil staying at $70 is meaningless. Plus we have to pay back the debts incurred when oil fell to as low as $30 in 2015/16.!
Re: Foreign Reserves Decline By $2.3bn In 11 Weeks by olril17(m): 5:12pm On Sep 09, 2018
seunmsg:
It was not an achievement while government was building it up. Now that it's going down, Buhari must take the stick for it. Why are you wailers like this? huh




Crude oil sold averagely for over $100 all through Jonathan's government and not a single kobo was added to the foreign reserve. Instead, what he inherited from Yat'adua were squandered. Buhari met the reserve at around $30billion and has build it up to over $45billion despite oil averaging at around $50 for the past three years but Buhari is the problem. Again I ask, why are you wailers like this?
it is on threads like this they will zombies defending their masters, when it come to Abba kyari and olekemi adeosun, you will zombie like the one I quote nowhere to be found.
Re: Foreign Reserves Decline By $2.3bn In 11 Weeks by theoldpretender(m): 5:15pm On Sep 09, 2018
SarcasticGenius:
This one be heavy duty o. Over 2.3 billion dollars in 11 weeks, while Sambo Dasuki is on trial for 2.1 billion stolen over 3 years. APC una be masters for fvckery.

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If you read the article part of the money went towards keeping the naira afloat, ie preventing it from plummeting to n1000 to $1.

Part of it went to elections...but it has not reached the Dasuki levels yet!...and it still does not obscure the fact that GEJ depleted our forex reserves.

Having said that...the issue really is that Nigeria is a resource dependent country...and it is high time we tool steps to end our resource dependency. PDP vs APC, GEJ vis PMB is all irrelevant.
Re: Foreign Reserves Decline By $2.3bn In 11 Weeks by Anyad231: 5:26pm On Sep 09, 2018
Buterflyle0:
Stop being misinformed. We are talking about foreign reserves and you are busy talking about sovereign account.

Stop talking silly
Na so person go dey insult person ontop nothing....why was the sovereign account opened, and can you trace one thing the ex governors used that fund for. Obviously, we all know buhari can not take naija anywhere. We are easily manipulated in nigeria. As a nation, we are not meant to be where we are currently.
Re: Foreign Reserves Decline By $2.3bn In 11 Weeks by Buterflyle0: 5:30pm On Sep 09, 2018
Anyad231:
Na so person go dey insult person ontop nothing....why was the sovereign account opened, and can you trace one thing the ex governors used that fund for. Obviously, we all know buhari can not take naija anywhere. We are easily manipulated in nigeria. As a nation, we are not meant to be where we are currently.
Ogbeni you are still not making any sense.

This thread is about the foreign reserves and not the sovereign account. QED

Besides, the only reason the governors demanded that GEJ should share the money in the sovereign account was simply because they noticed he was looting that too and didn't want it to continue with them getting the short end of the stick.

GEJ was a master serial looter of anything available to loot.

Buhari came on a rescue mission and has done superbly well.

He has set Nigeria back on the right course and away from the destruction PDP and GEJ were taking us to
Re: Foreign Reserves Decline By $2.3bn In 11 Weeks by TGM2015: 5:30pm On Sep 09, 2018
gare:
ANY VERIFIABLE JUSTIFICATION FOR THAT REDUCTION ?
The reasons were well stated in the post. Below is the the extract.

... Experts have blamed the continuous decline in reserves on three factors: increased dollar supply by the CBN to the foreign exchange market, instability in the nation’s securities and exchange market, and the coming general elections in the country.

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They said the decline in the external reserves would persist in the short term as demand for the green back grows amid the continued intervention of CBN in order to curtail the pressure on the naira at both the I&E and BDC segments as well as the expected increased demand by portfolio investors who have been reported to be leaving the country ahead of the 2019 general elections.

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The CBN had intensified injection of hard currencies into the forex market since it signed a currency swap deal with the Peoples Bank of China to ease pressure on the Nigerian foreign exchange market. On Friday, the Central Bank injected the sum $303.91 million into the interbank retail Secondary Market Intervention Sales.
Re: Foreign Reserves Decline By $2.3bn In 11 Weeks by 007inc: 5:35pm On Sep 09, 2018
Buhari amaka! grin
Re: Foreign Reserves Decline By $2.3bn In 11 Weeks by sanpipita(m): 5:35pm On Sep 09, 2018
Buterflyle0:
The money shared was not from the foreign reserves it was from the sovereign account which is different from the foreign reserves.

Gej looted the foreign reserves despite all prices being at an all time high during his tenure which enabled him to earn as much as $398b for his 4 years in office yet from all he earned he never added one dollar to the foreign reserves but kept draining it.
Did I say money shared was foreign reserves? and stop the gross ignorance foreign reserves can't be looted its not a saved money
Re: Foreign Reserves Decline By $2.3bn In 11 Weeks by sanpipita(m): 5:37pm On Sep 09, 2018
theoldpretender:
1.The foreign reserve was already in decline long before the governors took GEJ to court. Need I remind you that most of those governors were from the PDP too.?

2.Buhari met the reserve at $32Bn. It went down to $28 BN before it reached $47bn, and now has fallen to$45 bn.

3.It does not mean that Bubu is better than GEJ...it means our economy is so dependent on oil...and it is high time we developed polices to get rid of that dependency....and it starts by spending more on power, transport,and removing fuel subsidy completely!
You still haven't told me how buhari saved Money like you said, where is the so called money buhari saved
Re: Foreign Reserves Decline By $2.3bn In 11 Weeks by sanpipita(m): 5:38pm On Sep 09, 2018
Anyad231:
on point, amaechi led that crusade to share the funds which was eventually used 4 buhari campaign. ..and d ex governors should shows us what those funds were used for...we keep deceiving and lamenting while these guys are cleaning out our future.
They know the truth but will choose lies to deceive Nigerians, sadly this doesn't help anyone.
Re: Foreign Reserves Decline By $2.3bn In 11 Weeks by Buterflyle0: 5:39pm On Sep 09, 2018
sanpipita:
Did I say money shared was foreign reserves? and stop the gross ignorance foreign reserves can't be looted its not a saved money
Tell the bolded to the OP and all the PDP wailers who actually think otherwise.

Ignorance they say is bliss but in this case, ignorance is stupidity
Re: Foreign Reserves Decline By $2.3bn In 11 Weeks by sanpipita(m): 5:43pm On Sep 09, 2018
Buterflyle0:
Tell the bolded to the OP and all the PDP wailers who actually think otherwise.

Ignorance they say is bliss but in this case, ignorance is stupidity
But you said GEJ looted foreign reserves, how are you different from them? APC themselves celebrate foreign reserves like its a saved money somewhere, most of you are just clueless no wonder you make wrong voting choices
Re: Foreign Reserves Decline By $2.3bn In 11 Weeks by Buterflyle0: 5:44pm On Sep 09, 2018
sanpipita:
But you said GEJ looted foreign reserves, how are you different from them? APC themselves celebrate foreign reserves like its a saved money somewhere, most of you are just clueless no wonder you make wrong voting choices
Since they want to be mad, let's all be mad together. And FYI I have made my right voting choice and it is PMB/PYO till 2023
Re: Foreign Reserves Decline By $2.3bn In 11 Weeks by djon78(m): 6:00pm On Sep 09, 2018
theoldpretender:
In response....

Nigeria needs oil to be at $140 per barrel for us not to borrow.

The $45 you mention does not make sense...and even IF there was no corruption....we would still be borrowing.

Here is a list of countries's breakeven oil prices, according to global ratings company Fitch (as at 2017)

Nigeria at $139
Bahrain at $84
Angola at $82
Oman at $75
Saudi Arabia at $74
Russia at $72
Kazakhstan at $71
Gabon at $66
Azerbaijan at $66
Iraq at $61
Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates, at $60
Republic of Congo at $52
Qatar at $51
Kuwait at $45

Sauce

Why should we be focusing on oil all the time? Meaning that whenever oil decline we start shaking. Is it not high time all this madness stops?

In this present age we are still looking at oil to break even.


Personally I still believe that successive governments have not been honest about changing Nigeria's economy.

What stops government from overhauling the power sector. Power is the major problem. Fix power and even fuel subsidy goes away because Nigerians consume millions of litre of fuel daily to run their generators.
Therefore when you fix power problem you remove that.
Power will also fix our industries, reduce the cost of production, support local industries more than importation.


Personally I believe that the political class don't want to do the Right thing. They want the ordinary man to always be at there mercy. That's my opinion because fixing Nigeria s power is not rocket science.
Re: Foreign Reserves Decline By $2.3bn In 11 Weeks by deebrownneymar: 6:03pm On Sep 09, 2018
These people in APC are the biggest thieves in our history. Just within 3 years They've done worse than PDP's 16 years rule.
Re: Foreign Reserves Decline By $2.3bn In 11 Weeks by theoldpretender(m): 6:06pm On Sep 09, 2018
sanpipita:
You still haven't told me how buhari saved Money like you said, where is the so called money buhari saved
And have a good evening.

I am not into your PMB vs GEJ politic...sir. I am for Nigeria industrial!
Re: Foreign Reserves Decline By $2.3bn In 11 Weeks by Swiftboy(m): 6:11pm On Sep 09, 2018
theoldpretender:
Oil has been below $80 dollars all throughout this regime, while it needs to be at $140 for us to be in a position not to borrow from anyone.

Plus...we have been borrowing money from China long before Bubu took over.

We will continue to borrow money until oil goes above $140 or until we become an industrialized nation.
Your analysis is off completely.

Even at $50 per barrel we are should be able to fund our budget. We export around 2 million barrels of crude oil per day. That's about 13 trillion Naira per year. Our budget is only 8 trillion. Let's say we are making 10 trillion naira per y year.

This country is rich but so many leakages and corruption coupled with lack of vision by our government has plunged is into poverty.

That's why we need to take our country back from the corrupt political elites that have brought the nations to her knees.
Re: Foreign Reserves Decline By $2.3bn In 11 Weeks by Swiftboy(m): 6:15pm On Sep 09, 2018
Then we vote therm all out and defend our votes
djon78:

Why should we be focusing on oil all the time? Meaning that whenever oil decline we start shaking. Is it not high time all this madness stops?

In this present age we are still looking at oil to break even.


Personally I still believe that successive governments have not been honest about changing Nigeria's economy.

What stops government from overhauling the power sector. Power is the major problem. Fix power and even fuel subsidy goes away because Nigerians consume millions of litre of fuel daily to run their generators.
Therefore when you fix power problem you remove that.
Power will also fix our industries, reduce the cost of production, support local industries more than importation.


Personally I believe that the political class don't want to do the Right thing. They want the ordinary man to always be at there mercy. That's my opinion because fixing Nigeria s power is not rocket science.
Re: Foreign Reserves Decline By $2.3bn In 11 Weeks by theoldpretender(m): 6:22pm On Sep 09, 2018
Swiftboy:
Your analysis is off completely.

Even at $50 per barrel we are should be able to fund our budget. We export around 2 million barrels of crude oil per day. That's about 13 trillion Naira per year. Our budget is only 8 trillion. Let's say we are making 10 trillion naira per y year.

This country is rich but so many leakages and corruption coupled with lack of vision by our government has plunged is into poverty.

That's why we need to take our country back from the corrupt political elites that have brought the nations to her knees.
1.We can't fund our budget at $50....we need oil to be at $140 per barrel.(Saudi can't fund its budget at $50...and they produce more oil than we do).

2.N8 trillion is not enough for Nigeria. (A fellow Nairalander on another thread even put it that a budget of N9 trillion amounts to N45000 per Nigerian).

3.For instance, university education alone needs N1.5 trillion in extra...EXTRA....funding to keep FEDERAL universites at an even keel (according to the 2009 ASUU fg agreement). This year we spent N800bn on education...ie all sectors including university...alone.

4.As Fitch puts it we need oil to be at $140 ..ie our breakeven price...which is the price we need oil to be at to meet spending demands, and balance the budget. $50 would leave us needing to borrow excessively just to stay afloat (In short...we hand over our economy to the IMF to run for us....).

5.And yes...we need to fight corruption as well. The stealing is bad because it is from a treasury that is already impoverished.

6.China is the world's lender...because in the late 1970's they made the decison to go industrial...and to become more capitalist. South Korea ,and Japan too made that decison...

7.The only rich oil producers are countries like Saudi and Norway and the UAE which have small populations, and in Norway's case...are industrialised nations as well.
Re: Foreign Reserves Decline By $2.3bn In 11 Weeks by SarcasticGenius(m): 6:28pm On Sep 09, 2018
theoldpretender:
If you read the article part of the money went towards keeping the naira afloat, ie preventing it from plummeting to n1000 to $1.

Part of it went to elections...but it has not reached the Dasuki levels yet!...and it still does not obscure the fact that GEJ depleted our forex reserves.

Having said that...the issue really is that Nigeria is a resource dependent country...and it is high time we tool steps to end our resource dependency. PDP vs APC, GEJ vis PMB is all irrelevant.
Then it means that APC has been lying to us for the past 3 years. The strength of your currency as a country depends on whether you are a net importer or net exporter.

If you are a net importer, (meaning you import more than you export) then you'll have a weak currency; but if you're a net exporter (meaning you export more than you import) then you'll have a strong currency.

All along they have been keeping the naira afloat by artificial means and lying to us that they have made the country less dependent on oil.

APC has a lot to answer for.
Re: Foreign Reserves Decline By $2.3bn In 11 Weeks by sanpipita(m): 6:30pm On Sep 09, 2018
theoldpretender:
And have a good evening.

I am not into your PMB vs GEJ politic...sir. I am for Nigeria industrial!
This isn't about pmb vs gej but getting your facts right, you said pmb saved unliked gej and I'm asking you where and how
Re: Foreign Reserves Decline By $2.3bn In 11 Weeks by greatman247(m): 6:32pm On Sep 09, 2018
SanusiGworo:
Thieves in Power
Still better than PDP. They are all thieves but far more better than PDP. How much did PDP left? The most useless party, in the history of Nigeria. Lol.
Re: Foreign Reserves Decline By $2.3bn In 11 Weeks by Awoleesu(m): 7:21pm On Sep 09, 2018
ELECTORAL EXPENDITURE! grin
Re: Foreign Reserves Decline By $2.3bn In 11 Weeks by 989900: 7:27pm On Sep 09, 2018
sholatech:
[s]Only politicians say this. No Academic or Finance professional will posit this.

Please show me how you arrive at your average price for each administration. Show me also a year by year graph showing the foreign reserves value each year, average crude oil price per year & average Usd exchange rate per year. You will clearly see the result of your statement[/s]. Let the current administration fix our exchange rate back to the last time we had Average $70 crude oil price like we have this year & then see what value you will get on the foreign reserve values.
It's public knowledge, he is nearly right . . . most commenters on the economic section on NL are conversant with these figures -- you can do your research too -- Google is a public tool.

About the last part of your submission though, I agree.
Re: Foreign Reserves Decline By $2.3bn In 11 Weeks by naijaking1: 7:31pm On Sep 09, 2018
A small mouse called Buhari bite a hole on the sac containing the foreign reserve, and $2.3B drained out quickly, just like in the 70s when another $2.8B went missing with Buhari in charge of petroleum.
And guess who is fighting corruptionhuh
Re: Foreign Reserves Decline By $2.3bn In 11 Weeks by 989900: 7:32pm On Sep 09, 2018
sanpipita:
Where did buhari save? do you realize then opposition forced GEJ to share funds rather than save, let's be truthful to ourselves lies helps nobody
What was shared was the ECA; not the reserves.
Re: Foreign Reserves Decline By $2.3bn In 11 Weeks by AroleOduduwa(m): 7:37pm On Sep 09, 2018
FarahAideed:
Myndd44 Seun Lalasticlala...is rule 2 dead ? I have been banned before for using the word zombie and yet this character is being allowed to use the word wailed to bully others for their opinion...
The first mod you mentioned says a lot about what’s wrong with Nigeria, s/he is very biased.
Re: Foreign Reserves Decline By $2.3bn In 11 Weeks by Ugosample(m): 7:47pm On Sep 09, 2018
sholatech:
Only politicians say this. No Academic or Finance professional will posit this.

Please show me how you arrive at your average price for each administration. Show me also a year by year graph showing the foreign reserves value each year, average crude oil price per year & average Usd exchange rate per year. You will clearly see the result of your statement. Let the current administration fix our exchange rate back to the last time we had Average $70 crude oil price like we have this year & then see what value you will get on the foreign reserve values.
don't mind them
they keep running their mouth
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