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TATIME:
You initially said you'll DECEIVE someone to marry you by putting on a personality that's not true and later go back to your normal way of doing things. Please how do you think you'll be happy if the other person thought and play on your intelligence the same way and claiming he/she love to be your "life partner"? How happy do you think you'll be to remain in union with a DECEIVER who actually deceived no one else but you in hooking up with you?

Brother, to win a race, a mace, over a people you need be as wise as snake, you need knowledge as scorpions! :/

Thus, if a proselythic pharisee (so many of our brothers above called them! :/ ) can be won from a million park, would you remain put? Would you run or become like one of them?


Ayyy man, I just wanna play in word. Worry not, I cannot deceive. For a righteous man cannot be deceived with sin, nor will he deceived any. Its just a pun....

Brother in Christ, peace...

TATIME:
#rottennaija: No one is saying you must become one of Jehovah's witnesses to be in the truth or to make the truth your, but you're not in the truth when you don't have anything to say against pagan customs and traditions that's practised in all forms of worship promoting evil thoughts.That's the meaning of "making the truth your own!"

Quite suddenly, you are changing the definition of what you mean by "making the truth your own". At first, it was about, I quote you

the beliefs and teachings of the group. So they'll be attending our meetings but what we believe is not rooted in their hearts

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Then when I brought the unscriptural believes of the watchtower and how they basically puts themselves above Jesus and his teachings, you suddenly change your definition of "making the truth your own" to quote you

have anything to say against pagan customs and traditions that's practised in all forms of worship promoting evil thoughts

Why do you behave like the pharisee of old? Jesus said they wash the outside of plate while the inside remains unwash? Why worry about the so called pagan practices and traditions when you have so many unscriptural and even idolatrous teachings among you? Why do Jws behave like the pharisee whom Jesus said, would cross seas and oceans to make one proselytize and then subject the person to gehenna? In the same way, many people have embrace Jesus' words as recorded in the Bible, become joined to him by accepting him as his mediator, partake of his body and blood as Jesus commanded only for these ones to joined the jw organization and become condemned to sin and death by rejecting the very body of christ and being told Jesus cannot mediate for them?

In these ways, the watchtower organization has condemned many Jws to sin and death by rejecting the very teachings of the Bible and Jesus himself.

rottennaija:
Quite suddenly, you are changing the definition of what you mean by "making the truth your own". At first, it was about, I quote you .

Then when I brought the unscriptural believes of the watchtower and how they basically puts themselves above Jesus and his teachings, you suddenly change your definition of "making the truth your own" to quote you

Why do you behave like the pharisee of old? Jesus said they wash the outside of plate while the inside remains unwash? Why worry about the so called pagan practices and traditions when you have so many unscriptural and even idolatrous teachings among you? Why do Jws behave like the pharisee whom Jesus said, would cross seas and oceans to make one proselytize and then subject the person to gehenna? In the same way, many people have embrace Jesus' words as recorded in the Bible, become joined to him by accepting him as his mediator, partake of his body and blood as Jesus commanded only for these ones to joined the jw organization and become condemned to sin and death by rejecting the very body of christ and being told Jesus cannot mediate for them?

In these ways, the watchtower organization has condemned many Jws to sin and death by rejecting the very teachings of the Bible and Jesus himself.

You're talking about the difference in beliefs as in faith, please try to correlate your insinuations with James 2:20-26 Because to me you're claiming that JWs beliefs aren't true but they're the one and only group doing the WORK whereas all your folks only have what could be termes as FAITH. So i think the "spirit" backing those whose beliefs are true will be help sincere and honest hearted observer to IDENTIFY the true followers of Jesus as the "spirit" is motivating them to do the WORK. James 2:14

rottennaija:
Quite suddenly, you are changing the definition of what you mean by "making the truth your own". At first, it was about, I quote you .

Then when I brought the unscriptural believes of the watchtower and how they basically puts themselves above Jesus and his teachings, you suddenly change your definition of "making the truth your own" to quote you

Why do you behave like the pharisee of old? Jesus said they wash the outside of plate while the inside remains unwash? Why worry about the so called pagan practices and traditions when you have so many unscriptural and even idolatrous teachings among you? Why do Jws behave like the pharisee whom Jesus said, would cross seas and oceans to make one proselytize and then subject the person to gehenna? In the same way, many people have embrace Jesus' words as recorded in the Bible, become joined to him by accepting him as his mediator, partake of his body and blood as Jesus commanded only for these ones to joined the jw organization and become condemned to sin and death by rejecting the very body of christ and being told Jesus cannot mediate for them?

In these ways, the watchtower organization has condemned many Jws to sin and death by rejecting the very teachings of the Bible and Jesus himself.

I am beginning to see the meaning of christ words that deals with "watchout for the leaven of the pharisees". It is not totally in the addition they have made to the Mosaic law, it is in their "HYPOCRISY". Your comment above is aptly placed.

achorladey:
I am beginning to see the meaning of christ words that deals with "watchout for the leaven of the pharisees". It is not totally in the addition they have made to the Mosaic law, it is in their "HYPOCRISY". Your comment above is aptly placed.

Hmmmmmmmmmm, HYPOCRISY for certain! When thousands of contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines are claiming they belong under the same umbrella, but the one and only separate group opposing such analogy is said to be the HYPOCRITE! My friend you deserve a MEDAL.

TATIME:
You're talking about the difference in beliefs as in faith, please try to correlate your insinuations with James 2:20-26 Because to me you're claiming that JWs beliefs aren't true but they're the one and only group doing the WORK whereas all your folks only have what could be termes as FAITH. So i think the "spirit" backing those whose beliefs are true will be help sincere and honest hearted observer to IDENTIFY the true followers of Jesus as the "spirit" is motivating them to do the WORK. James 2:14

Please DEFINE the WORK for us let see!

TATIME:
Hmmmmmmmmmm, HYPOCRISY for certain! When thousands of contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines are claiming they belong under the same umbrella, but the one and only separate group opposing such analogy is said to be the HYPOCRITE! My friend you deserve a MEDAL.

Are you are a CHRISTIAN? A simple Yes/No will do.

achorladey:
Please DEFINE the WORK for us let see!

I thought you're claiming to be a Christian, so what was the WORKS that the observers in Antioch saw making them call the followers of CHRIST "Christians"?

TATIME:
You're talking about the difference in beliefs as in faith, please try to correlate your insinuations with James 2:20-26 Because to me you're claiming that JWs beliefs aren't true but they're the one and only group doing the WORK whereas all your folks only have what could be termes as FAITH. So i think the "spirit" backing those whose beliefs are true will be help sincere and honest hearted observer to IDENTIFY the true followers of Jesus as the "spirit" is motivating them to do the WORK. James 2:14

The scriptural teachings of the Christian Greek scripture is one. It is based on the teachings of Jesus and the letters written by the apostles. First of all, you beliefs has to be based solidly in the scriptures before you take it to others.

As you may observed, even the pharisee made great efforts in making converts, but their works were wicked.

Again, this has nothing to do with as you said, quote you, "but they're the one and only group doing the WORK whereas all your folks". You are simply shifting the narrative and what we spoke about. The pharisee did much work in making converts, likewise the many religious groups over that past 2000 years which aided in the spread of Christianity.

But the bone of contention is, your teachings and preaching much be based on the teachings of Jesus and his disciples, which the watchtower Org had discarded and trashed to the floor

rottennaija:
The scriptural teachings of the Christian Greek scripture is one. It is based on the teachings of Jesus and the letters written by the apostles. First of all, you beliefs has to be based solidly in the scriptures before you take it to others.

As you may observed, even the pharisee made great efforts in making converts, but their works were wicked.

Again, this has nothing to do with as you said, quote you, "but they're the one and only group doing the WORK whereas all your folks". You are simply shifting the narrative and what we spoke about. The pharisee did much work in making converts, likewise the many religious groups over that past 2000 years which aided in the spread of Christianity.

But the bone of contention is, your teachings and preaching much be based on the teachings of Jesus and his disciples, which the watchtower Org had discarded and trashed to the floor

The FRUIT says Jesus. Matthew 7:18 The WORKS said James. James 2:20-26 So let observers see, notice or testify to the FRUIT or WORKS of your so called FAITH. Because according to Apostle Paul against the group that's producing the FRUIT or doing the WORK,there is no Law you can quote. Galatians 5:22,23

TATIME:
I thought you're claiming to be a Christian, so what was the WORKS that the observers in Antioch saw making them call the followers of CHRIST "Christians"?

I dont want you see/view you as a "coward". Do the needful, DEFINE the work for us. Show us the works observers in ANTIOCH see they made them call Jesus disciples CHRISTIANS.

TATIME:
I thought you're claiming to be a Christian, so what was the WORKS that the observers in Antioch saw making them call the followers of CHRIST "Christians"?

Dont think/have thought for me, I am a christian. TATIME, are you a CHRISTIAN. Simple YES/NO will do. Are JWs called CHRISTIANS? Simple Yes/No will do.

Dnockeror333:
Mighty Sparrow with a mighty snout like arrow , may it be emailed or spoken out that we might learn-> What were your experience before about marriage to a JW?
(To be warned and armed with bullet is to be fore armed- thank you all for these love.)

This your guy is not a man of scrupples. He is not a young man of doctrine nor either means.
If you see His believes you will wow him,run away because he is too much. He is a hood who receive all things, teach all things, accept all things in patience, perserve even to his death, ... THAT, HE MIGHT BE LIFTED UP AND SUFFER NO MORE!

Call him gnostics, you wont be wrong.

Though a Deeperlife, he'd been in many diverce Churches yet never holding a doctrine of theirs.


CAN THERE EVER BE a war with this one by a wife from JW?

I am not talking about JW per se. I am talking doctrinal bias. Let a white garment man marry a white garment. Pentecoastal marry within themselves.

achorladey:
Dont think/have thought for me, I am a christian. TATIME, are you a CHRISTIAN. Simple YES/NO will do. Are JWs called CHRISTIANS? Simple Yes/No will do.

My Master,Lord and King have thought me how to answer the crooked ones like you. He was asked "by what Authority are you doing these things?" or in other words "are you the Christ?" His response is "Is John's baptism from man or from God?". So answer my question first! What are the WORKS that observers in Antioch saw making them call the followers of CHRIST "Christians"? If you don't know that, then you can never know who are TRUE Christians today.

OneJ:
JWs marry only JWs . If he/she is not strong in the faith (those whose obedience to Jehovah's standard takes secondary place in their life) ,for them anything goes . Even if U marry that JW, nothing justifies the fact that he/she broke God's law (marry only in the faith ) & become unevenly yoked with an unbeliever. 1 Cor 7:39. Neh 13:23-27. 2 Cor 6:14.)

Marriage is not a tea party. Each one must carry his own load.
Therefore, for a JW his/ her choice of a life partner must be prayerfully made, (Genesis 24:1-67 ).

It's no coincidence that JW marriages are more stable & successful than that of non JWs, because God's standards & principles is the foundation for JW marriages. (Pls see the Awake ! magazine, No 2,2018) "12 Secrets of Successful Families". or jw.org for more info)
Your choice today could make or mar your future prospect for happiness tomorrow. Don't forget.

u r so fool of urself

MightySparrow:
I am not talking about JW per se. I am talking doctrinal bias. Let a white garment man marry a white garment. Pentecoastal marry within themselves.

May God in HIS infinite mercy bless you again and again for this thoughtful comment! Thank you.

TATIME:
My Master,Lord and King have thought me how to answer the crooked ones like you. He was asked "by what Authority are you doing these things?" or in other words "are you the Christ?" His response is "Is John's baptism from man or from God?". So answer my question first! What are the WORKS that observers in Antioch saw making them call the followers of CHRIST "Christians"? If you don't know that, then you can never know who are TRUE Christians today.

You that admit on another thread that you dont want to be addressed as Christian because of the way christianity has been bastardize, all of a sudden say people cannot know those who are TRUE CHRISTIANS here on this thread.

Double standard! TALKING OUT OF BOTH SIDE OF YOUR MOUTH.

TATIME:
My Master,Lord and King have thought me how to answer the crooked ones like you. He was asked "by what Authority are you doing these things?" or in other words "are you the Christ?" His response is "Is John's baptism from man or from God?". So answer my question first! What are the WORKS that observers in Antioch saw making them call the followers of CHRIST "Christians"? If you don't know that, then you can never know who are TRUE Christians today.

John chapter 5-6 is next week Bible reading schedule for CHRISTIAN LIFE AND MINISTRY meeting work book*. You will see the meaning of the WORKS there. Jesus himself(Master, Lord and KING) said and give the DEFINITION. The issue is can you pick it out?


Your public relations skills for the Jws ORG has left little to desire. My own opinion though, you are entitled to yours.

*CLAM workbook is published by WTBTS.

achorladey:
John chapter 5-6 is next week Bible reading schedule for CHRISTIAN LIFE AND MINISTRY meeting work book*. You will see the meaning of the WORKS there. Jesus himself(Master, Lord and KING) said and give the DEFINITION. The issue is can you pick it out?


Your public relations skills for the Jws ORG has left little to desire. My own opinion though, you are entitled to yours.

*CLAM workbook is published by WTBTS.

Now who is the real hypocrite here? See someone quoting from the meeting WORKBOOK of JWs "scheduled for the coming week" And here you're still criticising the same organization that you're dying to know not only what they've done in the past but what they're still planning to do in the future! By their FRUIT Jesus said! So you can't go to any other place to worship yet the place you're going every week you're facelessly criticizing. My friend you need a brain surgery!

achorladey:
You that admit on another thread that you dont want to be addressed as Christian because of the way christianity has been bastardize, all of a sudden say people cannot know those who are TRUE CHRISTIANS here on this thread.

Double standard! TALKING OUT OF BOTH SIDE OF YOUR MOUTH.

When most people like you fails to acknowledge the truth,by trying to merge falsehood with the truth, it's compulsory to bear my own Father's name. So instead of mixing me with them i'll prefer to say i'm one of Jehovah's witnesses! At least to distinguish from those countless contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines.

TATIME:
When most people like you fails to acknowledge the truth,by trying to merge falsehood with the truth, it's compulsory to bear my own Father's name. So instead of mixing me with them i'll prefer to say i'm one of Jehovah's witnesses! At least to distinguish from those countless contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines.

No one is holding you back not to bear whatever name you want to bear. As far as you know that the jw.org also merge truth with falsehood just like other religious denominations you want to view as culprit. Keep that in mind.

TATIME:
Now who is the real hypocrite here? See someone quoting from the meeting WORKBOOK of JWs "scheduled for the coming week" And here you're still criticising the same organization that you're dying to know not only what they've done in the past but what they're still planning to do in the future! By their FRUIT Jesus said! So you can't go to any other place to worship yet the place you're going every week you're facelessly criticizing. My friend you need a brain surgery!

hahahahahahaahahaahaha.

Please dont call those that raise issues against the jw org coward again if you feel pain about issues raised. When you feel like this, I wonder how those taking the lead within the org will react as well. Brain surgery keh. Ki la gbe, ki le ju.

achorladey:
Statistics on this your: "no coincidence that JW marriages are more successful than that of non-JWs"

2 Corinthians 6:14 do not be unevenly yoked with unbelievers. The op only needs clarity on.....Who is a believer? Who is an unbeliever?

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achorladey, to your last Qstn; do U believe what JWs believe intoto? Your reply is the answer...

We advocate strict adherence to Bible standard for marriage. If U could get the Record of Divorce cases in our 9ja Law Courts, JWs marriages fare better than others.
Any JW couple having a crisis plagued marriage, just check well, one of them or the two, have ignored or failed to stick with God's principles on marriage.

Every JW is well taught on how to address issues on married life.

otuekong1:
u r so fool of urself

There is freedom of speech. Hallelujah! Etubom, dalu rinne. Esoso.. ooo

OneJ:
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achorladey, to your last Qstn; do U believe what JWs believe intoto? Your reply is the answer...

We advocate strict adherence to Bible standard for marriage. If U could get the Record of Divorce cases in our 9ja Law Courts, JWs marriages fare better than others.
Any JW couple having a crisis plagued marriage, just check well, one of them or the two, have ignored or failed to stick with God's principles on marriage.

Every JW is well taught on how to address issues on married life.

You are the one making comparisons, feel free to provide the statistics...... And dont bother to go the the secular authorities for stats concerning the Jws marriage palaver.

Consult the HQ in New york and numerous branch offices for that info. They are the keepers of all thing JWs. When you now have both stats present it here.

Your last statement tells me about something I come across in the Watchtower July 2018 study edition about this question........ on page 32.

If a MAN and a WOMAN who are not MARRIED to each other spend the night together without valid reasons, is there evidence that they have sinned and that a judicial committee should be formed?

This must be part of the strict guidelines you follow. Hmmmmmm I hear you oooo.

achorladey:
You are the one making comparisons, feel free to provide the statistics...... And dont bother to go the the secular authorities for stats concerning the Jws marriage palaver.

Consult the HQ in New york and numerous branch offices for that info. They are the keepers of all thing JWs. When you now have both stats present it here.

Your last statement tells me about something I come across in the Watchtower July 2018 study edition about this question........ on page 32.

If a MAN and a WOMAN who are not MARRIED to each other spend the night together without valid reasons, is there evidence that they have sinned and that a judicial committee should be formed?

This must be part of the strict guidelines you follow. Hmmmmmm I hear you oooo.

Mr Man, if U have contrary opinion about JW marriages, that's your cup of tea. I believe what I said in my preceding posts. No be today I know....

The other matter, For example , U're my next door neighbor. I'm single & a hot woman (unrelated to me , not my mom or sister) spends the night in my apartment. Two days later, I knocked on your door to preach, would U take me or the good news with seriousness?

OneJ:
Mr Man, if U have contrary opinion about JW marriages, that's your cup of tea. I believe what I said in my preceding posts. No be today I know....

The other matter, For example , U're my next door neighbor. I'm single & a hot woman (unrelated to me , not my mom or sister) spends the night in my apartment. Two days later, I knocked on your door to preach, would U take me or the good news with seriousness?

The other matter( the scenario you are bring to support that article in that watchtower). Let me rephrase your scenario with mine. Read carefully!

For example , you are my next door neighbor. I'm single hot woman & a hot woman (unrelated to me , not my mom or sister) spends the night in my apartment. Two days later, I knocked on your door to preach, would U take me or the good news with seriousness?

Religious organizations and their policies,e get as e be oooooo!

MightySparrow:
I am not talking about JW per se. I am talking doctrinal bias. Let a white garment man marry a white garment. Pentecoastal marry within themselves.

Let the owner of us all cut the yam according to His own will.

Either to later marry a DLBC or not, because no one truelly know what tommorrow holds, it will be the wish of His not ours.

Thank you.

achorladey:
hahahahahahaahahaahaha.

Please dont call those that raise issues against the jw org coward again if you feel pain about issues raised. When you feel like this, I wonder how those taking the lead within the org will react as well. Brain surgery keh. Ki la gbe, ki le ju.

Truthfully speaking, if you're following all the programs of an organization "including their up coming weekly meetings" and you're not proud to say i belong to such an organization but facelessly criticizing the same organization, my friend you need a brain surgery for real.

achorladey:
The other matter( the scenario you are bring to support that article in that watchtower). Let me rephrase your scenario with mine. Read carefully!

For example , you are my next door neighbor. I'm single hot woman & a hot woman (unrelated to me , not my mom or sister) spends the night in my apartment. Two days later, I knocked on your door to preach, would U take me or the good news with seriousness?

Religious organizations and their policies,e get as e be oooooo!

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For instance, your daughter is JW & tells U she lives off campus with her course mate of same sex, what would U conclude ?

OneJ:
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For instance, your daughter tells U she lives off campus with her course mate of same sex, what would U conclude ?

Not different from the scenario I gave in response to your first scenario I responded to. So answer in line with the first question you have given in your scenario.