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Re: Dokpesi, Senator Bala Mohammed, Other Drag Buhari To Court by FarahAideed: 12:44pm On Sep 21, 2018
Buhari is a chronic tyrant!!!!
Re: Dokpesi, Senator Bala Mohammed, Other Drag Buhari To Court by UcheHermes(m): 12:45pm On Sep 21, 2018
My spermatozoa is dancing... I want to have kids by you smiley
OMEGA009:
FTC!!!!!!!
What can a girl say? Momma, I made it. I haff arrove. I dedicate this FTC to all my fans, air conditioners and even “akupes”.

Now, wia is Lala and my FTC prize money?

I’m no money grabbing Baby mama and I ain’t no farm implement used in making ridges so I need my frackking money.

Please grin
Re: Dokpesi, Senator Bala Mohammed, Other Drag Buhari To Court by Quality20(m): 12:45pm On Sep 21, 2018
corrupt ppl in fact heavily corrupt guys taking a clean man to court
Re: Dokpesi, Senator Bala Mohammed, Other Drag Buhari To Court by 3kay945(m): 12:46pm On Sep 21, 2018
dvee2:
Executive order 6 is about proceeds of corruption. In simple terms money/property that is under investigation for corruption would be frozen until a final verdict by a competent court of law is declared.
This would stop cases whereby an accuse would sell out identified property or loot before the case is completed.
Looters hate this executive order because it doesn't give then access to be withdrawing money from an account which is already a subject of litigation.
Thanks bro. I just got lectured. cool
Re: Dokpesi, Senator Bala Mohammed, Other Drag Buhari To Court by RexEmmyGee: 12:46pm On Sep 21, 2018
OMEGA009:
FTC!!!!!!!
What can a girl say? Momma, I made it. I haff arrove. I dedicate this FTC to all my fans, air conditioners and even “akupes”.

Now, wia is Lala and my FTC prize money?

I’m no money grabbing Baby mama and I ain’t no farm implement used in making ridges so I need my frackking money.

Please grin
Of a truth I tell you, you will keep waiting for that frackking money till you grow old and that picture you uploaded begins to fade.
Re: Dokpesi, Senator Bala Mohammed, Other Drag Buhari To Court by icon8: 12:49pm On Sep 21, 2018
Mynd44:
That once you have been charged to court on suspicion of corruption, the EFCC or ICPC can freeze your bank account(s)
Thanks. However, my point is that the author of the piece could have briefly explained what the EO means, rather than making reference to what is nowhere established in the write-up, leaving readers confused.
Re: Dokpesi, Senator Bala Mohammed, Other Drag Buhari To Court by Billygee2u: 12:50pm On Sep 21, 2018
janefblog:
The Chairman, Daar Communications, Dr Raymond Dokpesi; Senator Bala Mohammed and Ambassador Bello Mohammed have dragged President Muhammadu Buhari and the Attorney General of the Federation, before a Federal High Court sitting in Lagos.


The men are challenging the constitutionality of Executive Order No 6 of 2018.

Daar Communication Chairman, and others in the suit, are demanding the court to declare that the Presidential Order 6 issued by the President unlawful.

They want the law to be declared null and void and of no effect whatsoever, having regard to the fact that the said order constitutes an attempt by the president to exercise to the detriment of the plaintiffs’ judicial and legislative powers not vested in him by the constitution.

They are also praying the court for an order nullifying the the Presidential Executive Order on the ground that it scandalizes the plaintiffs by stigmatizing them as corrupt and labelling their assets as proceeds of corruption liable to forfeiture.

They are further demanding for an order of the court nullifying the Presidential Executive Order no 6 of 2018, on the ground that it constitutes a violation of the rule against self-help and that the president purports to take action detrimental to the plaintiffs in respect of assets subject to pending litigation between the Government and the plaintiffs.

https://janefblog.com/3848-2dokpesi-senator-bala-mohammed-other-drag-buhari-to-court/
truly Buhari is lifeless
Re: Dokpesi, Senator Bala Mohammed, Other Drag Buhari To Court by dvee2: 12:51pm On Sep 21, 2018
3kay945:
Thanks bro. I just got lectured. cool
The thing they hate most about this order is that there usual tactics of deliberately prolonging case in court for many years pending when a favourable government comes on is detrimental to them.
The longer you seek for adjournment the longer your money remain frozen.
Most SAN have perfected this art in Nigeria hence some cases would be in court for ten years, during that time the person still hv access to the money, isn't that tragic?
Re: Dokpesi, Senator Bala Mohammed, Other Drag Buhari To Court by tartar9(m): 12:54pm On Sep 21, 2018
Errmm...am I the only one not understanding what their saying huh
Re: Dokpesi, Senator Bala Mohammed, Other Drag Buhari To Court by 3kay945(m): 12:55pm On Sep 21, 2018
dvee2:
The thing they hate most about this order is that there usual tactics of deliberately prolonging case in court for many years pending when a favourable government comes on is detrimental to them.
The longer you seek for adjournment the longer your money remain frozen.
Most SAN have perfected this art in Nigeria hence some cases would be in court for ten years, during that time the person still hv access to the money, isn't that tragic?
That's why we are tagged "fantastically corrupt " people.
Re: Dokpesi, Senator Bala Mohammed, Other Drag Buhari To Court by jaxxy(m): 12:55pm On Sep 21, 2018
But Pdp are CRIMINALS sha sharing billions of Naira among themselves like... I just don’t know who to support because Apc doesn’t have sense Either. I wish there was a 3rd FORCE angry
Re: Dokpesi, Senator Bala Mohammed, Other Drag Buhari To Court by iammo(m): 1:03pm On Sep 21, 2018
dvee2:
The thing they hate most about this order is that there usual tactics of deliberately prolonging case in court for many years pending when a favourable government comes on is detrimental to them.
The longer you seek for adjournment the longer your money remain frozen.
Most SAN have perfected this art in Nigeria hence some cases would be in court for ten years, during that time the person still hv access to the money, isn't that tragic?
it is better for power of forfeiture to only remain with a competent law court and not solely on discretion of prosecutors or any part of branch of executive agencies which is heavily controlled by a man of questionable character as regard rule of law and rights of the opposition. you can't pick up someone on allegations of corruption and deny him access to any of his property before a court established a fact that he is Indeed guilty, what if he was a victim of political witch hunting, his asset would start depreciating with the maner recovered assets are been handled by fg
Re: Dokpesi, Senator Bala Mohammed, Other Drag Buhari To Court by Reference(m): 1:03pm On Sep 21, 2018
Dov3:
Finally someone is standing up to unconstitutional orders. This tyranny if left unchecked will eat us all

This is the dictatorship. The strength of democracy lies in separation of powers. The moment one arm of government feels to big to comply with democratic conventions, then we have failed completely
Nigerians are not enlightened enough to know how democracy can be made to work for them. We are stuck in a viscious cycle of ignorance hence we have rarely seen a better next year. Every index of living is declining progressively.
Re: Dokpesi, Senator Bala Mohammed, Other Drag Buhari To Court by Nobody: 1:14pm On Sep 21, 2018
docadams:
Do you know what comprises executive order? Of course no
Do you know what executive order 6 is? If you do I'll delete.
Oga, if i didn't know, what will it take me to read about it? If you have an important response please shoot. Or else get buzy with your life. I have been following constitutional law for years before you learnt to type. I have less than 10 comments in months on this forum so you should know I won't want to waste my words on frivolous questions

On a second thought, Buhari is asking for the right to hold citizen's asset indefinitely without courts and formal trial. Is there separation of powers there? Does that remind you of a dictator or democracy ?
Re: Dokpesi, Senator Bala Mohammed, Other Drag Buhari To Court by HotMata: 1:14pm On Sep 21, 2018
What on God's blessed earth is this people problem? Is this a plight of manipulation orthem trying to play saint johnson? Even if anybody should come out to sue anybody in Nigeria right now it so should not be these individuals whose skeletons are very huge inside their cupboard. And if this is just to distract the President, i already will say that their plight still will not work.
Re: Dokpesi, Senator Bala Mohammed, Other Drag Buhari To Court by GavelSlam: 1:18pm On Sep 21, 2018
hollywater:
In a normal country, yes they will win,but in Zoo anything can happen .
What exactly would they win?

Do you even understand the case?
Re: Dokpesi, Senator Bala Mohammed, Other Drag Buhari To Court by chinjo(m): 1:29pm On Sep 21, 2018
icon8:
Lazy journalism!

What is Executive Order No 6 of 2018 and what is Article XI?
You are rather a lazy Nigerian youth who does not have time for going ons around him.
Re: Dokpesi, Senator Bala Mohammed, Other Drag Buhari To Court by PierreAbutu(m): 1:41pm On Sep 21, 2018
OMEGA009:
FTC!!!!!!!
What can a girl say? Momma, I made it. I haff arrove. I dedicate this FTC to all my fans, air conditioners and even “akupes”.

Now, wia is Lala and my FTC prize money?

I’m no money grabbing Baby mama and I ain’t no farm implement used in making ridges so I need my frackking money.

Please grin
Ya profile pic......CREAMY COFFEE cheesy
Re: Dokpesi, Senator Bala Mohammed, Other Drag Buhari To Court by docadams: 2:40pm On Sep 21, 2018
Dov3:
Oga, if i didn't know, what will it take me to read about it? If you have an important response please shoot. Or else get buzy with your life. I have been following constitutional law for years before you learnt to type. I have less than 10 comments in months on this forum so you should know I won't want to waste my words on frivolous questions

On a second thought, Buhari is asking for the right to hold citizen's asset indefinitely without courts and formal trial. Is there separation of powers there? Does that remind you of a dictator or democracy ?
Your comment
"Finally someone is standing up to unconstitutional orders. This tyranny if left unchecked will eat us all

This is the dictatorship. The strength of democracy lies in separation of powers

You mentioned in one breath
- tyranny
-unconstitutional
-dictatorship

What is an executive order
"A presidential policy directive that implements or interprets a federal statute, a constitutional provision, or a treaty.[b/] - legal dictionary

'Executive Orders are orders issued by a president and directed towards officers and agencies of the government. [b]Executive orders have the full force of law, based on the authority derived from statute or the Constitution itself or implied acts of the legislature'
The ability to make such orders is also based on express or implied Acts of the Legislature that delegate to the president some degree of discretionary power.[/b] - sunnews

Therefore execution orders are
1. Constitutionally backed
2 have full force of the law
3.within presidential discretionary powers

Section 315 of the 1999 constitution says the President 'make such modifications in the text of any existing law, as the appropriate authority considers necessary or expedient to bring that law into conformity with the provisions of this Constitution'

So, unless you can justify your earlier jaundiced claims, I will be left with no choice than to classify.you an un-/mis-./ill-informed partisan apostate
Re: Dokpesi, Senator Bala Mohammed, Other Drag Buhari To Court by PiQi: 2:43pm On Sep 21, 2018
OMEGA009:
FTC!!!!!!!
What can a girl say? Momma, I made it. I haff arrove. I dedicate this FTC to all my fans, air conditioners and even “akupes”.

Now, wia is Lala and my FTC prize money?

I’m no money grabbing Baby mama and I ain’t no farm implement used in making ridges so I need my frackking money.

Please grin
You've arroved
Re: Dokpesi, Senator Bala Mohammed, Other Drag Buhari To Court by truthstands01: 3:49pm On Sep 21, 2018
Only a competent court of jurisdiction can declare someone guilty and the assets status too. Presidential order 6 cannot stand. The president can't take hold of people's assets when the case is in court. This is tyranny not democracy.
Re: Dokpesi, Senator Bala Mohammed, Other Drag Buhari To Court by Boyooosa(m): 4:14pm On Sep 21, 2018
Simple...
Re: Dokpesi, Senator Bala Mohammed, Other Drag Buhari To Court by Nobody: 5:23pm On Sep 21, 2018
docadams:
Your comment
"Finally someone is standing up to unconstitutional orders. This tyranny if left unchecked will eat us all

This is the dictatorship. The strength of democracy lies in separation of powers

You mentioned in one breath
- tyranny
-unconstitutional
-dictatorship

What is an executive order
"A presidential policy directive that implements or interprets a federal statute, a constitutional provision, or a treaty.[b/] - legal dictionary

'Executive Orders are orders issued by a president and directed towards officers and agencies of the government. [b]Executive orders have the full force of law, based on the authority derived from statute or the Constitution itself or implied acts of the legislature'
The ability to make such orders is also based on express or implied Acts of the Legislature that delegate to the president some degree of discretionary power.[/b] - sunnews

Therefore execution orders are
1. Constitutionally backed
2 have full force of the law
3.within presidential discretionary powers

Section 315 of the 1999 constitution says the President 'make such modifications in the text of any existing law, as the appropriate authority considers necessary or expedient to bring that law into conformity with the provisions of this Constitution'

So, unless you can justify your earlier jaundiced claims, I will be left with no choice than to classify.you an un-/mis-./ill-informed partisan apostate

It is Unconstitutional


In Section 36 (5) of the 1999 constitution says every person is presumed innocent until a competent court finds him/her guilty

… the power to confiscate assets does not lie with the President, but with the judges. No party in a criminal case is allowed to take any actions during the legal process. Not even talk about it.

For Buhari with his array of lawyers directing agencies to act against the provisions of the constitution, then it is clearly tyrannical.

Taking into consideration all his other violations, it is clear that he is now a full fledged dictator
Re: Dokpesi, Senator Bala Mohammed, Other Drag Buhari To Court by ofwest47(m): 5:28pm On Sep 21, 2018
How is A I T preforming now?
Re: Dokpesi, Senator Bala Mohammed, Other Drag Buhari To Court by docadams: 5:57pm On Sep 21, 2018
Dov3:

It is Unconstitutional


In Section 36 (5) of the 1999 constitution says every person is presumed innocent until a competent court finds him/her guilty

… the power to confiscate assets does not lie with the President, but with the judges. No party in a criminal case is allowed to take any actions during the legal process. Not even talk about it.

For Buhari with his array of lawyers directing agencies to act against the provisions of the constitution, then it is clearly tyrannical.

Taking into consideration all his other violations, it is clear that he is now a full fledged dictator
From your submission it is obvious you don't know the essence of executive orders. Heads of governments at all levels - local,state and federal run government through at least one executive order. All past Presidents at one point promulgated executive orders. So they were tyrants based on your definition.
Re: Dokpesi, Senator Bala Mohammed, Other Drag Buhari To Court by Eagle75: 6:41pm On Sep 21, 2018
[quote author=docadams post=71393562]Do you know what comprises executive order? Of course no
Do you know what executive order 6 is? If you do I'll delete.


If you cannot sign an Executive Order to, end Double Taxation,stop the use of State of Origin,promote locally made goods. But you can sign it to enable you declare someone who the court have not found guilty a criminal. Oga you are not a DEMOCRAT, you are simpily a TYRANT
Re: Dokpesi, Senator Bala Mohammed, Other Drag Buhari To Court by Teacher1776(m): 6:56pm On Sep 21, 2018
dvee2:
Executive order 6 is about proceeds of corruption. In simple terms money/property that is under investigation for corruption would be frozen until a final verdict by a competent court of law is declared.
This would stop cases whereby an accuse would sell out identified property or loot before the case is completed.
Looters hate this executive order because it doesn't give then access to be withdrawing money from an account which is already a subject of litigation.
Well your explanation appears quite smooth and harmless. On the other hand, this order could bring about the reign of impunity. Nigerian partisan politicking is a blend of madness and irrational. Anyone who opposes those in the helm could have their assets confiscated pending the determination of the court which could take years. In essence, it amounts to declaring a person guilty even before the court tries the case. And meanwhile, the rule of law stipulates that until a person is pronounced guilty by the court, he is still innocent.
And you can agree that not all arraigned since buhari became president are truly guilty.
And not everyone who is opposing this order is a looter.
An order such as this, if not put in check, is capable of breeding tyranny.
Re: Dokpesi, Senator Bala Mohammed, Other Drag Buhari To Court by Nobody: 7:39pm On Sep 21, 2018
docadams:
From your submission it is obvious you don't know the essence of executive orders. Heads of governments at all levels - local,state and federal run government through at least one executive order. All past Presidents at one point promulgated executive orders. So they were tyrants based on your definition.
Wrong again. The constitution empowers Presidents to use orders as long as the orders does not go against extant laws. I am done here
Re: Dokpesi, Senator Bala Mohammed, Other Drag Buhari To Court by Nobody: 7:48pm On Sep 21, 2018
dvee2:
The thing they hate most about this order is that there usual tactics of deliberately prolonging case in court for many years pending when a favourable government comes on is detrimental to them.
The longer you seek for adjournment the longer your money remain frozen.
Most SAN have perfected this art in Nigeria hence some cases would be in court for ten years, during that time the person still hv access to the money, isn't that tragic?
Teacher1776:
Well your explanation appears quite smooth and harmless. On the other hand, this order could bring about the reign of impunity. Nigerian partisan politicking is a blend of madness and irrational. Anyone who opposes those in the helm could have their assets confiscated pending the determination of the court which could take years. In essence, it amounts to declaring a person guilty even before the court tries the case. And meanwhile, the rule of law stipulates that until a person is pronounced guilty by the court, he is still innocent.
And you can agree that not all arraigned since buhari became president are truly guilty.
And not everyone who is opposing this order is a looter.
An order such as this, if not put in check, is capable of breeding tyranny.
This reason lacks merit. As soon as a case is brought before a Court, the prosecution can and usually will request a stay order which prevents transfer of such asset. In the event that a judgement is made against the property, as long as that property was captured in the original case, the judgement will still be binding irrespective of the current owner

The only reason why a defendant will still have access to their money is if the case was actually watery on the first instance and lacks merit so a ressonable judge will deny that request. This is the reason why Buhari's lawyers keep looking for biased judges to grant their unreassonable requests.

What Buhari seeks to do is totally against constitutional provisions
Re: Dokpesi, Senator Bala Mohammed, Other Drag Buhari To Court by docadams: 8:02pm On Sep 21, 2018
Dov3:
Wrong again. The constitution empowers Presidents to use orders as long as the orders does not go against extant laws. I am done here
About time you do that. Go and look for your fellow wailers to corrupt with your hate filled misconception.
BTW, this order under discuss is the 6th in this PMB regime. Why where the 5 previous ones not in dispute? Order 6 pierced the soul of looters hence the noise and wailing from the usual corruption supporters club.
Re: Dokpesi, Senator Bala Mohammed, Other Drag Buhari To Court by ACHILLES45: 8:03pm On Sep 21, 2018
maoolakanm:
WHY ARE THEY AFRAID OF THE ORDER.ALL THEY NEED TO DO IS TO TELL THE JUDGE HOW THE ACQUIRED THOSE PROPERTIES IN QUESTION IF THERE ARE DOUBT OVER THEM.
have you asked thiefnubuu how he acquired the whole of lagos, of which he used some of its billions to fund your lifeless grandpa's election.
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