| Re: . by FrostyButter: 7:24pm On Sep 24, 2018 |
RighteousI:
Wilder only swings wildly after the first knock down. watch his fight carefully. he fights technically until he hits you with a power shot and knocks you down. if you get up from the knock down, only then will he swing wildly to finish you.
by the way, he will kill fury. You claim Joshua can take a beating, you must be joking. any boxer that can get knocked down and bruised by an aged wladimir Klitschko is not a boxer that can take a beating.
It is not that I hate Joshua or I'm being tribalistic. I hate when people praise a sportsman just because they like his personality. you need to see how some Nigerian Joshua fans, especially Yorubas are insulting Wilder on YouTube, they claim Joshua will kill Wilder. if you like Joshua mainly because he's part Nigerian or Yoruba then that's fine, but don't go insulting a fighter that can destroy your fighter. for example if you like Christiano Ronaldo mainly because he is controversial, he has a personality and a cult of fans then confess to that, but don't you ever say Christiano Ronaldo is better than Lionel Messi. so if you like Joshua because he is Nigerian or you are a woman and you like Joshua's because of his haircut or physique, then confess that you like him mainly because of that, don't you ever say he is better than Wilder. it's not hate, it's facts. Wilder is not technical as you see him, trust me, he just has heavy punches and he knows how to deliver them... Watch his last 10 matches again, you would agree with me that he is clumsy and it's only fear that hasn't allowed his competitors knock him down. His fight with Fury is going to last at least 10 rounds cause furry can take a beating, especially with that his drugs infested body, I doubt that guy feels pain as such. You have to respect AJ as an athlete, he is good, technical (though, has a lot of work to do). About getting bruised by Klitchko, common  , it's boxing and stop talking about Klitchko like he is some grandpa, the guy is a beast. Like I said, my money is still on AJ. Wouldn't say he is better than Wilder, as you claim most people do, but Im counting on Wilders clumsy fighting and eagerness to quickly knock out Joshua... He would be in for a surprise, like what happened to Tyson. God I miss good old fighters like Frazier 1 Like |
| Re: . by Nobody: 8:29pm On Sep 24, 2018 |
GrammarNazi1:
It's conspicuous that you're tribalistic, but that doesn't mean your assertion is without merit.
I am a Yorùbá man but I believe Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder will defeat Anthony Joshua.
I also believe that your ranking is wrong. For me, it is:
1 Tyson Fury
2 Deontay Wilder
3 Anthony Joshua
4 Luis Ortiz Like u said, Wilder and Fury will beat AJ o. Wilder has strong head punch that can send one into comma. AJ is only upcoming, his punches are weak compared to these guys. AJ is still young, no need for him to rush, he should focus more on training at this stage than challenging anyone. 3 Likes |
| Re: . by Stegomiah: 10:12pm On Sep 24, 2018 |
instinctg:
here we go again. so many neophytes on nairaland. who the hell is wilder? Joshua has fought over 5 top world class boxers in his relatively short 22 fight carrier . an Olympic gold champion who has beaten champions, the young, experienced, big, small and still improving. don't hate, give kudos to whom is due.
he has always been the one unifying all the belts and taking all the risks, has ur Wilder attempted to unify at any point? where was this chicken leg guy when klitchko reigned supreme? did Wilder step up? no, he instead went to eat cake at klitchkos training camp, u don't believe me, google is your friend.
Aj doesn't talk too much but his passive nature is his strength, he may be termed as a non confident person outside the ring but this guy is a beast of beasts in the ring.
who has Wilder fought? a 50 year old Ortiz? however many top 20 not even top 10 boxers has he fought? #bumbomber that can't even fill out a 15000 stadium in the USA?
Abeg, make una de talk with sense. and for the tribalistic bigot that opened this thread, Ko ni da fun e. oloriburuku! Bless ya bro Those praising wilder are just being tribalistic They hate AJ.... Cos of tribalism... If he was IPOB now..... The tune will change Wilder never faced klitschko... He has never beaten any quality opponent.... Be avoiding them.... Held on to his WBC belt.... By beating people not even in top 10 40 fights... And won about 25 against fellow Americans.... That i don't even know He's more initial gra gra type.... Of the 40 fights had about 20 KO's in the first two rounds.... Don't see how he's gonna KO tyson fury early And i think AJ is underrated..... He's won all his 22 fights except one via KO's If anyone is a threat to AJ.... It's fury not wilder And una rankings no matter... Current number one for over a year is AJ.... He has 3 of the 4 belts... Number 2... Wilder.... He's the only one preventing AJ... From holding all for... The superweight Champion So if fury beats wilder.... He gets the WBC belt... Then it's gonna be fury against AJ .That's why i said.... Let's see who wins that first... Let's know if the wilder guy us really that good... Not just some YouTube highlights... Everyone looks good on highlights Y'all be watching AJ matches... How may wilder matches una don watch to be sincere? 5 Likes |
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| Re: . by Anduku: 12:07pm On Sep 25, 2018 |
Joshua will beat Ortiz silly |
| Re: . by Anduku: 12:09pm On Sep 25, 2018 |
johnkey:
abeg where Mayweather rank? cause I'm surprised how he's so fucking rich, than these guys sef. Mayweather has retired since last year |
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| Re: . by DeRay98(m): 7:31pm On Sep 25, 2018 |
RighteousI:
I hate it when people say the boxing world needs a Wilder vs Joshua fight. Before the chicken fights the dog, shouldn't that chicken fight the cat first in order to prove it is tough enough to fight the dog? Wilder is the dog, Luis Ortiz is the cat and Joshua is the chicken.
Have all you gullible Yorubas that are praising Joshua seen how tough Luis Ortiz is? the guy is a silver back gorilla, but yet Wilder knocked him out.
Wilder is going to kill Joshua and everyone knows that except for some Yorubas. those in America and the UK know it, that's why they advised Joshua not to fight Wilder so soon after becoming champion so that he can reign as champion for a while.
so the question is not whether or not Wilder will beat Joshua, the question is whether or not Joshua can beat Ortiz. to all you gullible Yorubas, if your overrated boxer called Anthony Joshua can beat Luis Ortiz, I will bow down and call Joshua my master.
for your information, Luis Ortiz will defeat Joshua not to talk of what Wilder will do to him.
the top 4 heavy weight boxers in the world are:
No 1: Deontay Wilder
No 2: Luis Ortiz
No 3: Tyson Fury
No 4: Anthony Joshua
yes! Even Tyson fury is above Joshua. Joshua's thuggish and area boy style of setting up power right hooks with several left jabs will have no effect on Tyson fury who fights like Floyd Mayweather. he may be called "fury" but he fights with no fury at all, he fights defensively like Floyd Mayweather. Joshua will not touch Tyson fury at all, fury will win on points because he will land more jabs on Joshua and he will win most of the rounds.
My first question to the ignorant Op is, who classification of Heavyweights is this one you posted here? WBA, WBC, IBO, IBF? because you didn't specify or was it to deceive your ignorant and gullible, itchy finger Indomie generation? Joshua has 3 of the 4 titles by beating all his oppositions. While Wilder was already a pro AJ was an amateur. Wilder didn't fight Klitchko all those until Fury did, dropped out due to drug cheating and depression. AJ came out beat Klitchko to retirement only for Wilder to start using AJ name get global attention that he didn't have despite being WBA champion for years and beating unknown boxers to build his resume. How dare to come to spread lies to boast your ignorance. While AJ is filling 85,000 average capacity stadium Wilder has never filled a 20,000 capital stadium. Wilder has never earned $5m dollars in a fight against AJ is averaging $20m/per in his last 4 fights, yet AJ's offered him $15m to fight AJ and guy is demanding to equal pay with AJ. Op clearly doesn't know what goes into negotiating fight before contracts are signed for the fight and you coming exhibite hate for Yorubas on AJ. You think Wilder can just shout his way around and get fights without? Wilder was supposed to Dillion Whyte but duct him to fight Otiz that has never beaten any known heavyweight. Are you aware that just 2 days ago Dillion Whyte expose Wilders ducting fights from a text message he sent to Whyte? Go and watch Youtube neutral boxing analysts videos posted since Sept 23 and hear they are saying. You come to thrill ignorant sentimental teenagers with lies and they are posting rubbish. Nonsense 5 Likes |
| Re: . by DeRay98(m): 7:40pm On Sep 25, 2018 |
Gratefulheart1:
Like u said, Wilder and Fury will beat AJ o. Wilder has strong head punch that can send one into comma. AJ is only upcoming, his punches are weak compared to these guys. AJ is still young, no need for him to rush, he should focus more on training at this stage than challenging anyone. Even your defence of AJ is naive bro. Wilder is using AJ's to build his popularity. Until AJ surfaced in 2015 by beating Klitschko, Wilder had had more 35 fights yet he wasn't even known in the U.S. He avoided Joseph Parker, dudged Klitschko for years. When did you start to hear about Wilder if not until AJ beat Klitschko ? You know why he chose to fight Fury now, because Fury has not fully recovered and he knows he easily beat Fury who's broke looking for money to recover after 3yrs of absence and health issues. 1 Like |
| Re: . by DeRay98(m): 7:49pm On Sep 25, 2018 |
FortifiedCity:
You made salient points but there was no point screaming 'Yoruba, Yoruba' all over the thread. All his points are invalid, ignorant and hatefilled towards AJ because his a tribalist. After all the chestbeating and hatefulness, there's currently no Igbo man in any known or known world boxing category ranking as we speak, none if you find one come post it here hear. They are pushing hard drugs and bastardizing their Biafra and Nigerian reputation world wide.  4 Likes |
| Re: . by RighteousI: 8:01pm On Sep 25, 2018 |
DeRay98:
My first question to the ignorant Op is, who classification of Heavyweights is this one you posted here?
WBA, WBC, IBO, IBF?
because you didn't specify or was it to deceive your ignorant and gullible, itchy finger Indomie generation?
Joshua has 3 of the 4 titles by beating all his oppositions.
While Wilder was already a pro AJ was an amateur. Wilder didn't fight Klitchko all those until Fury did, dropped out due to drug cheating and depression.
AJ came out beat Klitchko to retirement only for Wilder to start using AJ name get global attention that he didn't have despite being WBA champion for years and beating unknown boxers to build his resume.
How dare to come to spread lies to boast your ignorance.
While AJ is filling 85,000 average capacity stadium Wilder has never filled a 20,000 capital stadium.
Wilder has never earned $5m dollars in a fight against AJ is averaging $20m/per in his last 4 fights, yet AJ's offered him $15m to fight AJ and guy is demanding to equal pay with AJ.
Op clearly doesn't know what goes into negotiating fight before contracts are signed for the fight and you coming exhibite hate for Yorubas on AJ.
You think Wilder can just shout his way around and get fights without? Wilder was supposed to Dillion Whyte but duct him to fight Otiz that has never beaten any known heavyweight.
Are you aware that just 2 days ago Dillion Whyte expose Wilders ducting fights from a text message he sent to Whyte?
Go and watch Youtube neutral boxing analysts videos posted since Sept 23 and hear they are saying.
You come to thrill ignorant sentimental teenagers with lies and they are posting rubbish. Nonsense you are a liar! Luis Ortiz who almost knocked out Wilder will kill both Joshua and Whyte on the same night. you are nothing but an ignorant Joshua butt kisser, your fighter is an overrated black British kid, we all know how the British press hype their overrated sportsman just for the sake of ratings. keep kissing Joshua's butt until Wilder knocks his Yoruba dentition out... |
| Re: . by Nobody: 8:15pm On Sep 25, 2018 |
DeRay98:
All his points are invalid, ignorant and hatefilled towards AJ because his a tribalist.
After all the chestbeating and hatefulness, there's currently no Igbo man in any known or known world boxing category ranking as we speak, none if you find one come post it here hear. They are pushing hard drugs and bastardizing their Biafra and Nigerian reputation world wide. From your comments, you and the op are birds of a feather |
| Re: . by Nobody: 6:01am On Sep 26, 2018 |
DeRay98:
Even your defence of AJ is naive bro.
Wilder is using AJ's to build his popularity. Until AJ surfaced in 2015 by beating Klitschko,
Wilder had had more 35 fights yet he wasn't even known in the U.S.
He avoided Joseph Parker, dudged Klitschko for years. When did you start to hear about Wilder if not until AJ beat Klitschko ?
You know why he chose to fight Fury now, because Fury has not fully recovered and he knows he easily beat Fury who's broke looking for money to recover after 3yrs of absence and health issues.
Wilder will beat AJ at this stage bro, don't let's drag things. AJ should practise more, train more and study these guy's fights more b4 he challenge them or else. |
| Re: . by Nobody: 10:30am On Sep 26, 2018 |
Gratefulheart1:
Wilder will beat AJ at this stage bro, don't let's drag things. AJ should practise more, train more and study these guy's fights more b4 he challenge them or else. |
| Re: . by Nobody: 10:43am On Sep 26, 2018 |
Gratefulheart1:
Wilder will beat AJ at this stage bro, don't let's drag things. AJ should practise more, train more and study these guy's fights more b4 he challenge them or else. oga Joshua is not challenging anyone, he is been challenge and you all hateful people should learn to respect good boxers. the so called wilder had two chances to fight Klitschko but he did not take them. Joshua did and he is now world number 1. if I were Joshua I will only train and fight mandatory challengers. I love fury and will always do but fvck wilder that guy would not even beat a Joseph Parker. peace. |
| Re: . by Nobody: 12:25pm On Sep 26, 2018 |
kenddys:
oga Joshua is not challenging anyone, he is been challenge and you all hateful people should learn to respect good boxers.
the so called wilder had two chances to fight Klitschko but he did not take them. Joshua did and he is now world number 1.
if I were Joshua I will only train and fight mandatory challengers.
I love fury and will always do but fvck wilder that guy would not even beat a Joseph Parker.
peace. Alright bro. |
| Re: . by darkelf: 5:04pm On Sep 26, 2018 |
Kingosytex:
AJ is using his nigerian sense to prolong his reign by avoiding to fight Wilder and Fury. Any attempt by AJ to fight either of the duo is gonna bring his reign to an abrupt end. AJ knows this so he cant afford to take chances Do you people even listen to the news? Do you even know boxing at all? Choosing who to fight is not the boxer's decision. Its the fight promoters decision. Hearns refused the $50 million agreement with Wilders promoter. Hence, they had to shift the fight till next year. Mind you, Joshua fights the winner between Wilder and Fury. Its almost a done deal. Nigerian sense my ass. The same Nigeria that didn't allow him rep them. That sense is a losers mentality and all AJ has been doing is winning. If anyone is overrated, its Deontay Wilder and if AJ could beat Povetkin, he'll beat Ortiz too because they are both pressure fighters with similar size. |
| Re: . by darkelf: 5:06pm On Sep 26, 2018 |
Nightmareo07:
He just said the plain truth, I dont know about fury.
But I'm sure wilder will destroy him. I just pray you watch how fury exposes wilder. Someone who's been lucky thus far with his inaccurate, windmill punches. Fury is very tall, technical and highly experienced. Using just one jab 85% of the time, he defeated Wladimir Klitschko and he will do worse to Deontay |
| Re: . by darkelf: 5:11pm On Sep 26, 2018 |
FrostyButter:
Why are you such a pained and angry bitter little man. I'm not yoruba but I'm proud of AJ cause he is Nigerian, and every Nigerian too should.
Now, about AJ wilder. I am optimistic that if AJ can keep wilder up till the 8th round, he would win. You guys need to study wilder. He is very clumsy and always wanting to get the job done quick, while AJ on the other hand is very technical and can receive a beating. All he needs against wilder is confidence, cause that guy just charges like a bull and swings punches. His height and indimidating figure is what has helped him in his career cause the way he swings anyhow, someone that's technical like Frazier was would knock That guy out in the first 2 rounds.
You might be surprised if wilder doesn't even beat Fury cause that's another person that can take a beating and wilder hasn't fought someone like that.
My money is on AJ. And stop being a tribalist. No offence but so far so good on nairaland, your people have been the biggest tribalist, always quick to put another tribe down and very eager to celebrate tribe just to validate importance... PS: I'm not yoruba.
Dude, If i knew where you're right now, i'll buy you a pack of sweet red wine, You said it all without any tribalistic sentiments. I haven't seen a boxer as technically gifted as AJ in a while. Maybe, most Nigerians think boxing is just about brwan and brawl without brain and technique. Anticipating your opponents punches is the name of the game. Wilder just charges and ortiz exposed him. Ortiz was just too quick to want to finish the match and unluckily ran into wilders right hook. No doubt, wilder does pack a punch but his lack of technique will expose him against fury. I predict fury to win by Unanimous decision (UD) or by technical KO in the later rounds (10th or 11th) when wilder finally runs out of gas |
| Re: . by darkelf: 5:14pm On Sep 26, 2018 |
What most people berating AJ don't know is that he has insisted on fighting Wilder even if Wilder looses against Fury.
Why? Because Wilder started running his big, yankie mouth about how AJ is overrated and would bite the dust.
AJ has vowed to put wilder in the place he belongs. The lower divisions of amateur boxing |
| Re: . by RighteousI: 7:55pm On Sep 26, 2018 |
darkelf:
I just pray you watch how fury exposes wilder. Someone who's been lucky thus far with his inaccurate, windmill punches. Fury is very tall, technical and highly experienced. Using just one jab 85% of the time, he defeated Wladimir Klitschko and he will do worse to Deontay darkelf:
I just pray you watch how fury exposes wilder. Someone who's been lucky thus far with his inaccurate, windmill punches. Fury is very tall, technical and highly experienced. Using just one jab 85% of the time, he defeated Wladimir Klitschko and he will do worse to Deontay Get this right. wladimir Klitschko is just a jabber like fury and he is the weaker of the Klitschko brothers. wladimir is way below vitali Klitschko. vitali will kill Wilder, Joshua,fury and Ortiz. so don't overrate wladimir Klitschko just because he has Klitschko as a surname. fury got knocked down by ordinary Steve Cunningham, how much more will Wilder kill him? |
| Re: . by Nobody: 11:38am On Sep 27, 2018 |
RighteousI:
I hate it when people say the boxing world needs a Wilder vs Joshua fight. Before the chicken fights the dog, shouldn't that chicken fight the cat first in order to prove it is tough enough to fight the dog? Wilder is the dog, Luis Ortiz is the cat and Joshua is the chicken.
Have all you gullible Yorubas that are praising Joshua seen how tough Luis Ortiz is? the guy is a silver back gorilla, but yet Wilder knocked him out.
Wilder is going to kill Joshua and everyone knows that except for some Yorubas. those in America and the UK know it, that's why they advised Joshua not to fight Wilder so soon after becoming champion so that he can reign as champion for a while.
so the question is not whether or not Wilder will beat Joshua, the question is whether or not Joshua can beat Ortiz. to all you gullible Yorubas, if your overrated boxer called Anthony Joshua can beat Luis Ortiz, I will bow down and call Joshua my master.
for your information, Luis Ortiz will defeat Joshua not to talk of what Wilder will do to him.
the top 4 heavy weight boxers in the world are:
No 1: Deontay Wilder
No 2: Luis Ortiz
No 3: Tyson Fury
No 4: Anthony Joshua
yes! Even Tyson fury is above Joshua. Joshua's thuggish and area boy style of setting up power right hooks with several left jabs will have no effect on Tyson fury who fights like Floyd Mayweather. he may be called "fury" but he fights with no fury at all, he fights defensively like Floyd Mayweather. Joshua will not touch Tyson fury at all, fury will win on points because he will land more jabs on Joshua and he will win most of the rounds.
The Yorubas have Anthony Joshua. Who do you have? Tell us now but if you don't have, remain silent as far as Boxing is concerned before you receive a Falcon Punch on face. 1 Like |
| Re: . by Trafalgar(m): 3:24pm On Sep 27, 2018 |
Are you talking about the same Tyson fury who relinquished his world title because he was too scared to face Klitschko for a rematch,how can you rank a former champion who never defended his title for once over a champion who has been stepping up to face all mandatory challengers. Your analysis about AJ is pure BS 2 Likes |
| Re: . by tolase220(m): 6:10pm On Sep 27, 2018 |
Up AJ!! |
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| Re: . by MRTA7: 1:48pm On Sep 28, 2018 |
How sad. Crabs in a barrel mentality alive and well. |
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| Re: . by OGHENAOGIE(m): 1:13pm On Sep 29, 2018 |
Stegomiah:
Well said
Not even sure wilder can beat fury
Fury was holding them 3 titles before relinquishing them due to personal issues.... Drug allegations... Can't fix a rematch
Both fury and Aj have defeated wladimar klitschko in the past
With AJ retiring him
Now both 3 are undefeated yet
Fury is not really a knock out specialist.... Like Op pointed out.... He's more like floyd mayweather..... He can defend well
Wilder have won 40 fights.... Over 20 against fellow Americans...... And i don't see a tough guy like klitschko amongst his casualties
So before you berate AJ's qualities
Let's see who comes out victorious between fury and wilder first.... The fight is slated for December this year
Cos it's the winner that gets to fight Aj
My money is on Tyson Fury
nna ina no get sense oooo aj go kil wilder.... Wilder is overrated not Aj we ll see if wilder ll Win Aj |
| Re: . by Mustack: 10:18am On Sep 30, 2018 |
Stegomiah:
Well said
Not even sure wilder can beat fury
Fury was holding them 3 titles before relinquishing them due to personal issues.... Drug allegations... Can't fix a rematch
Both fury and Aj have defeated wladimar klitschko in the past
With AJ retiring him
Now both 3 are undefeated yet
Fury is not really a knock out specialist.... Like Op pointed out.... He's more like floyd mayweather..... He can defend well
Wilder have won 40 fights.... Over 20 against fellow Americans...... And i don't see a tough guy like klitschko amongst his casualties
So before you berate AJ's qualities
Let's see who comes out victorious between fury and wilder first.... The fight is slated for December this year
Cos it's the winner that gets to fight Aj
My money is on Tyson Fury
Pls remind me of the date |
| Re: . by Mustack: 10:18am On Sep 30, 2018 |
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| Re: . by Stegomiah: 11:43pm On Sep 30, 2018 |
RighteousI:
Get this right. wladimir Klitschko is just a jabber like fury and he is the weaker of the Klitschko brothers. wladimir is way below vitali Klitschko. vitali will kill Wilder, Joshua,fury and Ortiz. so don't overrate wladimir Klitschko just because he has Klitschko as a surname.
fury got knocked down by ordinary Steve Cunningham, how much more will Wilder kill him? This is utter nonsense You may not like AJ.... But if in the name of making AJ look bad... You want to berate one of the greatest heavyweight boxers of all time... Maybe you should think again Over 60 fights... Just lost 5....including his last two Someone who was superweight champion on 2 separate occasions.... Held all four belts... For a total of over 8 years.... And he doesn't even have the height compared to most heavyweight peeps He's top 2 in almost every major stats for heavyweight champs.... He has superior stats over the likes of Muhammed Ali and co Wladimir had a better career of the two brothers... Way far more money from boxing Vitali might have retired with 2 losses..... But mehn Wladimir was the most feared brother.... The world knows that |
| Re: . by airmark(m): 12:20am On Oct 01, 2018 |
RighteousI:
Get this right. wladimir Klitschko is just a jabber like fury and he is the weaker of the Klitschko brothers. wladimir is way below vitali Klitschko. vitali will kill Wilder, Joshua,fury and Ortiz. so don't overrate wladimir Klitschko just because he has Klitschko as a surname.
fury got knocked down by ordinary Steve Cunningham, how much more will Wilder kill him? I hope you know why they called him doctor steel hammer. You goofed big time. Wilder ducked him as confirmed by his manager, for years. |
