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KoiceReloaded:
All well good, till the AI chip eventually to hijacks your central nervous system and psyche. Methinks the film's message is lost on you.

KoiceReloaded:
Thank you! My only gripe with the film is that it's way too short. I wish it were longer!

Ishilove:
Fixed

MJBOLT:

your taste in movies is weird

KoiceReloaded:
Jeez. You got no chill. Obviously a typo.

JeromeBlack:
You want to start argument again abi?

What is special about the film?

JeromeBlack:
What is special about the film?

nothing can hijack my system i got the message loud and clear,i'm just messing around

KoiceReloaded:
All well and good, till the AI chip eventually hijacks your central nervous system and psyche. Methinks the film's message is lost on you.

Ishilove:
It's not weird. I just prefer movies that teach and instruct. It must not all be about shooting and killing.

Ishilove:
It's beautiful and tells a straight forward story. People can't keep fvcking up and living recklessly and not expect repercussions. One day, an 18 wheeler will serve poetic justice if they don't retrace their footsteps.

JeromeBlack:
Yeah, you stated that you love stories with moral lessons. Well, if that is the case, you should stick to Nollywood and christian movies.


The movie is a "DYSTOPIAN ACTION THRILLER". Unfortunately it shows very little of the dystopia or future. How are people surviving without water? Why can't the water problem be solved with future technology? Compare this to Upgrade where a lot of futuristic technology is shown.


There is very little action and a lot of exposition. Also, a lot of plot holes- why isnt the son of the Wolf king a member of Artemis hotel? How did the son get to know about the other secret exit of the Hotel Artemis?


In fact, the only display of the future technology is in the hotel artemis with the medical equipment. Which is not even that futuristic as 3d printers already exist.


The movie is also short.


Here is another plot hole- how is it that only two staff (of Hotel Artemis) maintained peace between patients over the years? Where are all the other patients if the Hotel Artemis was fully booked as they claimed it to be?

MJBOLT:

the kind of movies you watch can be used to cure insomnia

BurningBlade:
why?

Ishilove:
I can't remember because it's been quite a while I watched the movie. All I recall is the fact that the movie is very very interesting, and tragic

Ishilove:
You have started again with spoilers. Create a separate thread and I will point out all the very obvious answers.

You also don't get to tell me what kind of movies to stick to. I have stated the kind of stories I like and you don't have to like what I like, capisce?

JeromeBlack:
Sorry about the spoilers. I just wanted to explain my reasoning about the movie

As for telling you what kind of movies to stick to, I did that happily. You are among the people that give totally biased reviews on this thread. I have watched 3 useless movies due to overhyped reviews.

Ishilove:
I disagree. The movie deserves 8.5

KoiceReloaded:
Thank you! My only gripe with the film is that it's way too short. I wish it were longer!

Joered63:
U have a point there because if the movie had been longer then maybe the plot would have been developed sufficiently enough to make someone enjoy the movie. The movie is all about talk, but very little action to back it. For instance, the way they talked about that kingpin"no body steals from him" blah blah, they hyped him to the point where one would even think he is Thanos, but at the end he was just useless, they didn't even give us a little insight into his background. Even his son was a bigger disappointment.
Waikiki too was just an embarrassment. If he's not babysitting his brother, he is busy sulking.
Even the french lady that was being touted as a dangerous assassin blah blah blah, just one fight scene
Don't even get me started on that useless talkative that was busy calling for helicopter, I don't even know his role in the movie.
I mean the so-called hotel was supposed to be a den of thieves, criminally minded elements u know but it was damn boring than a monastery.
I just felt like the movie was incomplete. That's why I don't trust all these movies with run time of one and half hours unless comedies.
Anyways I'm already erasing it from my memory with Ozark season 2.

Ishilove:
It's not a hotel. It's an underground hospital for elite criminals.

Which fight scenes are you expecting in an environment that has strict laws about fighting? The whole film is centred around the hospital and it's nurse so what action are you expecting??

It seems people just watch movies for the fights alone. You actually don't give attention to the themes and premises, which is why they fail to see the beauty of this wonderful movie

JeromeBlack:
You want to start argument again abi?

What is special about the film?

Ishilove:
It's not a hotel. It's an underground hospital for elite criminals.

Which fight scenes are you expecting in an environment that has strict laws about fighting? The whole film is centred around the hospital and it's nurse so what action are you expecting??

It seems people just watch movies for the fights alone. You actually don't give attention to the themes and premises, which is why they fail to see the beauty of this wonderful movie

Joered63:
U have a point there because if the movie had been longer then maybe the plot would have been developed sufficiently enough to make someone enjoy the movie. The movie is all about talk, but very little action to back it. For instance, the way they talked about that kingpin"no body steals from him" blah blah, they hyped him to the point where one would even think he is Thanos, but at the end he was just useless, they didn't even give us a little insight into his background. Even his son was a bigger disappointment.
Waikiki too was just an embarrassment. If he's not babysitting his brother, he is busy sulking.
Even the french lady that was being touted as a dangerous assassin blah blah blah, just one fight scene
Don't even get me started on that useless talkative that was busy calling for helicopter, I don't even know his role in the movie.
I mean the so-called hotel was supposed to be a den of thieves, criminally minded elements u know but it was damn boring than a monastery.
I just felt like the movie was incomplete. That's why I don't trust all these movies with run time of one and half hours unless comedies.
Anyways I'm already erasing it from my memory with Ozark season 2.

KoiceReloaded:
Now, that the criticism is well out of the way, I can tell you why I really enjoyed the film, particularly the concept:
- Commendable world building: Inspite of the weak plot, the small details tell me that there was some real world building going on. I felt like I could see the original comic book-esque sketches of the characters.
- Noir ambience: It did a good job creating this atmosphere of impending danger at every corner, and I'm a sucker for such an atmosphere
- Limited action: Unpopular opinion but I liked it that way. I felt that too much action would have ruined the intricate world building going on subtly behind the scene. They would have marketed it more as a noir thriller tho, instead of the sci-fi dystopian action thriller they went with. Would have gone a long way to checking the consumers high expectations.
- Decent exposition: I felt like the script did good job explaining the characters connection without overdoing the exposition.
- The Sofia Boutella and Dave Bautista factor: Sofia played the perfect assassin. The hallway fight was one of the best ones in years.
- Decent dialogue: The dialogue was always on point.
- Decent acting: Even though they feel like plot props at times, everyone killed it in their respective roles.

Conclusion: I felt like it did great with a modest $15 million budget. Would have been a masterpiece, if the plot's potential was maximized. Still, a decent noir thriller with some element of sci-fi.

Overall Score: 7/10.

JeromeBlack:
I cut out the negative points you put about the film because we are both in agreement about what it lacks. I am only going to address the positives you put.

-There is no world building. I had no foreknowledge of any comic book source and so, most of the world building came from exposition in the film. It would have been better for the film to show the water problem, the extent of future technology in the city and the riots. A dystopian film that lacks true dystopia

-Noir ambience. Yes 100% correct! I have no disagreement

-Limited action. Yes, this would have been a minor issue but the lack of other visuals and exploration of themes made it more glaring

-Sofia Boutella (too skinny to be an assassin. She was more convincing in Kingsmen). Bautista was great.

-Decent dialogue. Yes

-Decent acting. Yes


Conclusion- I have seen the Judge Dredd remake. This is a poor man's version of Judge Dredd 2012.

Score- 5.5/10. Average action movie. Not bad.

KoiceReloaded:
The world building is subtle but ever present, heck you can't miss it. The cinematography, the locations are all part of world building. The atmosphere. There is a real sense of the outside and the inside in a reality that is interesting. Also, don't forget the criminal hospital, futuristic semi-cyberpunk hell and art deco.

Decent world building.

jammer777:
Anyone seen "Leave no trace"? Worth downloading?

JeromeBlack:
There could have been many fight scenes. It is an action film after all. There was a riot taking place before we were shown the hotel artemis. They didnt show much of the riot. They didnt give much background to the female assassin and neither did they give to the wolf king. There


The themes are far too underdeveloped. So, your argument that we are ignoring the themes for the fight scenes. Did I not already point how there was little futurism or dystopia in the dystopian film? Has it not been pointed out that the character's backgrounds were not fully fleshed out?


I typically find your reviews and comments here to be pseudo-intellectual. You are talking about themes and you cannot even explore them.

JeromeBlack:
No be only cyberpunk, na daft punk!