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Juliusmalema:
Rubbish


Nothing like ndigbo in delta state...

Unless they mean Ndigbo residing in delta state....

Is a two different issue.

Don't be too sure of the thief, because he must have sold Deltas to Ndigbo. He sells anything, everything, even his birthright.

CHRISDMANAGER:
The road linking Ogwashi-ukwu, to Egbudu-Akah(My place ), to Ekuku Agbor of Delta State is a mess and like a partway to forest..My people has been deprived the dividend of Democracy since the inception of Delta State..No road ,no water,no Electricity ;and this is a place that once produced the longest lasting king in the world(Obi Alfred okolie)..The Government of Delta State under the leadership of H/E Dr.Ifeanyi Okowa should do something about this..My people are passing through hell in transporting human and other resources in-and-out of the communities listed above...

And your people that he is giving 1000n empowerment will still vote for him. Fools are those suffering villagers who will vote the thief again. May he be disgraced and humiliated.

Ugo4hotish:
for the sake of knowledge you can research for yourself furker

Thank you for the unwanted epithet. However, I researched and came to no tangible information, hence my question. If you can't answer them, I wouldn't be surprised. Facts are plucked from the air nowadays simply for show.

Thebabenextdoor:
Claim what exactly?
They have every right to claim asaba. Asaba is an Igbo community. if you have nothing reasonable to say keep shut

Even when it is before the river Niger that is boundary between Delta and Anambra? Is like Hausa saying Ishans are northerners or Itsekiri's are Yoruba. Igbo will always wants peoples lands they will dominate and claim like the fulani.

Thebabenextdoor:
Claim what exactly?
They have every right to claim asaba. Asaba is an Igbo community. if you have nothing reasonable to say keep shut

Even when it is before the river Niger that is boundary between Delta and Anambra? Is like Hausa saying Ishans are northerners or Itsekiri's are Yoruba. Igbo will always wants peoples lands they will dominate and claim like the fulani. I think this is why pa Buhari hate them because they seem to be competing with them in claiming other people's lands.

fratermathy:
You should have quoted or mentioned me. What are you afraid of in doing so?

So it is normal to say Ibrede is Igbo because one of the mythical founders of the community was from Igboland but Onitsha is not Benin even when the myths clearly state that he is from Benin and was the son of Oba Iweka? So now Igala, too, is Igbo because they migrated from there? You should know that these are rhetorical questions meant to specifically fault your pedestrian logic and expose your double standards.

It's funny you say I should respect people's history when you are the one tagging Isoko autonomous communities as Igbo "parts". The irony of a persecutory mindset!

am done with u,if u dont know that igala traces their origin to Eri the father of igbos,and once u acknowledge that Ezechima is an igbo like wise oba Eweka, his son obi ikeme are igbos who lived in benin,as for ibrede they migrated from igbo land not me and i dont even care if they do

Arda1000:
am done with u,if u dont know that igala traces their origin to Eri the father of igbos,and once u acknowledge that Ezechima is an igbo like wise oba Eweka, his son obi ikeme are igbos who lived in benin,as for ibrede they migrated from igbo land not me and i dont even care if they do

I'm not surprised at your intellectual aridity. You did not address any of the issues raised but went on ranting on how Eze Chima and Igala people are Igbos. Was that ever in contention? A smart fella would have seen the trap I set, one you gracefully fell into only to backup and say you no longer care if Ibrede is Igbo. You established a position which you have refuted when it becomes applied to your people. Such double standards. I'm not even a bit surprised.

fratermathy:
I'm not surprised at your intellectual aridity. You did not address any of the issues raised but went on ranting on how Eze Chima and Igala people are Igbos. Was that ever in contention? A smart fella would have seen the trap I set, one you gracefully fell into only to backup and say you no longer care if Ibrede is Igbo. You established a position which you have refuted when it becomes applied to your people. Such double standards. I'm not even a bit surprised.

am just saying that ibrede say that they migrated from igbo land not me,i have igala/igbo neigbours too and we respect each history and vice visa,so if u dont like what ibrede people are saying go and use super glue and gum their mouth

Juliusmalema:
Is only a fool that will believe there is an igboman in delta state.

What we have there and I repeat are igbos(SE) residing in delta state

Abeg no superior argument is greater than the truth.

Just be paying rent to your Igbo landlord.
Your geography education is substandard.

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Arda1000:
am just saying that ibrede say that they migrated from igbo land not me,i have igala/igbo neigbours too and we respect each history and vice visa,so if u dont like what ibrede people are saying go and use super glue and gum their mouth

That's not what you said. You seem to forget that your initial statement was that Isoko has an "Igbo part", not that Ibrede has Igbo ancestry.

You are not only intellectually arid, you are also a liar! Don't thwart facts to make useless cases online because you think others do not know.

Ibrede oral history comes from many sources and it clearly states where the people are from. That one man settled there doesn't change who they are. Once again, the argument is not on Ibrede being Isoko as that is not even an argument to begin with. The argument is that you carelessly ascribed an 'Igbo part' to Isoko and yet refute that Igboland has Bini and Igala 'parts', when your logic is pushed to that extent.

fratermathy:
That's not what you said. You seem to forget that your initial statement was that Isoko has an "Igbo part", not that Ibrede has Igbo ancestry.

You are not only intellectually arid, you are also a liar! Don't thwart facts to make useless cases online because you think others do not know.

Ibrede oral history comes from many sources and it clearly states where the people are from. That one man settled there doesn't change who they are. Once again, the argument is not on Ibrede being Isoko as that is not even an argument to begin with. The argument is that you carelessly ascribed an 'Igbo part' to Isoko and yet refute that Igboland has Bini and Igala 'parts', when your logic is pushed to that extent.

Just see how Igbo-phobia has made you hysterical

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fratermathy:
That's not what you said. You seem to forget that your initial statement was that Isoko has an "Igbo part", not that Ibrede has Igbo ancestry.

You are not only intellectually arid, you are also a liar! Don't thwart facts to make useless cases online because you think others do not know.

Ibrede oral history comes from many sources and it clearly states where the people are from. That one man settled there doesn't change who they are. Once again, the argument is not on Ibrede being Isoko as that is not even an argument to begin with. The argument is that you carelessly ascribed an 'Igbo part' to Isoko and yet refute that Igboland has Bini and Igala 'parts', when your logic is pushed to that extent.

is ibrede not part of isoko again? Ibrede of isoko say that they migrated from igbo land not me okay?,which part of igbo has bini parts?,like i said earlier igala and igbos are both descendant of Eri,so come again

Arda1000:
is ibrede not part of isoko again? Ibrede of isoko say that they migrated from igbo land not me okay?,which part of igbo has bini parts?,like i said earlier igala and igbos are both descendant of Eri,so come again

Your narrative has changed again. Did you originally state that Ibrede migrated from Igbo or that Isoko has "Igbo parts"? If we accept your new postulation above, are you saying that Ibrede has "Igbo parts"? What constitutes "Igbo parts"? Do they speak Igbo? Identify as Igbo? What exactly? Do you even know Ibrede? Have you been there? You just sit at home in Abakaliki and determine which ethnicity has Igbo "parts"? Why is your juvenile logic not applicable to Igbanke? To Isse-Uku? To Onitsha? To Ubulu-Uku? To Ntezi? To Eri? Etc?

I'll advise you not to reply because in truth, your logic is weak even for the average emotionally clouded Igbo man.

fratermathy:
Your narrative has changed again. Did you originally state that Ibrede migrated from Igbo or that Isoko has "Igbo parts"? If we accept your new postulation above, are you saying that Ibrede has "Igbo parts"? What constitutes "Igbo parts"? Do they speak Igbo? Identify as Igbo? What exactly? Do you even know Ibrede? Have you been there? You just sit at home in Abakaliki and determine which ethnicity has Igbo "parts"? Why is your juvenile logical not applicable to Igbanke? To Isse-Uku? To Onitsha? To Ubulu-Uku? To Ntezi? To Eri? Etc?

I'll advise you not to reply because in truth, your logic is weak even for the average emotionally clouded Igbo man.

ure confusing urself,nd ure the one with the logic here,i tell the truth and thats how it is,its their to see 4 those who have sight but i guess u been too igbophobia has blinded u

Arda1000:
ure confusing urself,nd ure the one with the logic here,i tell the truth and thats how it is,its their to see 4 those who have sight but i guess u been too igbophobia has blinded u

And now he tows the usual line of Igbophobia! How the mighty are fallen! Enjoy your persecutory complex and take heed of my warning to stop making ignorant statements about other ethnicities, towns or villages if you are not well informed and do not want people to come hard on yours.

fratermathy:
And now he tows the usual line of Igbophobia! How the mighty are fallen! Enjoy your persecutory complex and take heed of my warning to stop making ignorant statements about other ethnicities, towns or villages if you are not well informed and do not want people to come hard on yours.

respect other people choice,ibrede say they have igbo blood in them and ure refuting my foot,i still maintin dat if what they say pain u go and gum their mouth

fratermathy:
And now he tows the usual line of Igbophobia! How the mighty are fallen! Enjoy your persecutory complex and take heed of my warning to stop making ignorant statements about other ethnicities, towns or villages if you are not well informed and do not want people to come hard on yours.

^^ People like you are among those desperately in search of Igbo wife.

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goodnessme1:
how can he leave our yoruba cheap women and go for costly igbo ladies.

We know them, my sister.
Vehemently ranting against the Igbo community, but secretly eyeing Igbo women with passion.
It did not begin today.

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fratermathy:
The poster said Umunedei, not Umudei. I couldn't care less about their identity crises, if any. As far I am concerned, everything North of Urhobo/Isokoland up to Enugu State is Igbo or Igboid. If they say otherwise then no problem.

Many Igbanke people speak Bini fluently, just so you know. The whole point of bringing Igbanke into the discussion was to prove that though their homeland is captured within Edo State, they remain Ika people. This is the logic you should extend to Isoko communities in Ndokwa.

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fratermathy:
The poster said Umunedei, not Umudei. I couldn't care less about their identity crises, if any. As far I am concerned, everything North of Urhobo/Isokoland up to Enugu State is Igbo or Igboid. If they say otherwise then no problem.

Many Igbanke people speak Bini fluently, just so you know. The whole point of bringing Igbanke into the discussion was to prove that though their homeland is captured within Edo State, they remain Ika people. This is the logic you should extend to Isoko communities in Ndokwa.

The igbanke people do not speak Bini as their first Language or what have you
what they speak is ika. Mind you I have one of them as friend. They might have learnt Bini due to their presence in Edo state but they don't speak it as their language

You are funny..igbanke people that are crying of marginalization because they are sidelined in Edo meetings due to the fact they speak ika

http://www.abusidiqu.com/press-statement-cede-igbanke-to-the-proposed-anioma-state/?pr=46231&lang=en

immhotep:
We know them, my sister.
Vehemently ranting against the Igbo community, but secretly eyeing Igbo women with passion.
It did not begin today.

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Their obsession is not normal at all,
Rubbish

gboxbaba:
All these fvckers just spewing trash here.

The further you go away from asaba into the delta hinterlands the lesser their igboness.

Infact for most of the anioma community. The only thing they share in common with the igbo nation is just the language. Other aspects of their culture is quite different. For example the official regalia of the obi of agbor is a beaded regalia, just like the Benin.

The food is different. And a whole lot more.
I'm from umunedei in ogwashi ukwu. And our history is more of once upon a time we were a territory under the oba of Benin with no governing system of our own, then a prince of igbo descent comes and settles with us. And takes permission from the oba a to establish a governing system. His request is granted and he intermarries with the local population, sets up a governing structure which he heads and introduces his own language and everything. of course he can't just wipe out the original culture entirely. So it's more of a fusion of two different cultures. But originally. We are not igbo.

,it is simply troubling that the concerned people are giving in to forces that are simply bent on misrepresenting and obliterating important historical exploits of our Igbo people. It is your duty to research about your history and you to nuture,re-orientate our people and reintroduce our history in its true perspective to our people for posterity. The present oral facts do not simply fall into place. The military conquests of Old Benin is not in doubt but to claim that the respective Igbo communities traced their own very origin to Benin itself is a travesty of history. The communities undoubtably were invaded by Benin warriors, and their Oba style of leadership imposed on them by selecting one amongst the natives to rule them and report back to the Oba in Benin. To indigenise the system,the invaders had to select from the natives lexicon the word Obi to identify the throne.

Arda1000:
Stop fooling ursef with onistha benin nonsense,Ezechima is an igbo man that migrated from igbo land to benin then came back,not the other way,try to respect people history,alot of igala people are scatterd in igbo land but igala themself say that they migrated from igbo land,so they are relatted haba!

I also read of Eze Chima, who came from what is today called Umunri (Children of Nri) in Anambra, and as republican as his fellow Igbo, he and his priestly people went West of the Niger River. They settled far away West of Agbo, extending into Igbanke, Ibekwe, Nsukwa, Uromi, Afuze, Ubiaja. And due to disturbances from the Bini Kingdom, Eze Chima ran back to the East of the Niger. But his fellow Igbo around Ubiaja, Agbo, Ibekwe, Ubulu etc., suffered a lot under Bini Kingdom, which was part of the reasons why Agbo fought Bini sometime ago,In the 1560s: Eze Chima and his descendants left Benin. As many as one in four Igbo-speaking people are the descendants of people that emigrated from Benin Kingdom.

In the 1560s: The Benin Kingdom produced its first powerful Oba, named Esigie. All Obas derived their wealth, power and mystique from slave trading.

In the 1560s: John Hawkins took the first African slaves from The Slave Coast to Haiti.

What was then called the Slave Coast was later renamed Benin Kingdom, Nigeria, Gold Coast and Ghana. The word "Onitsha" is a corruption of the word "Orisha." The religion Orisha is practiced among Yorubas and Haitians.

Just as we shortened the name "United States of America" to United States or America, similarly the name "Orisha Edo" was corrupted to "Onitsha Ado" and then shortened to "Onitsha." The proof is that the web site for Onitshans is not onitsha.com: it is onitshaado.com.

Are expect the orisha onistha tin,remember they other places in igbo that bear onicha or onitsha name bt pronuonciation is the same but different spelling,plenty of them sef,all those ones bini too?

aniomafirstson:
The igbanke people do not speak Bini as their first Language or what have you
what they speak is ika. Mind you I have one of them as friend. They might have learnt Bini due to their presence in Edo state but they don't speak it as their language

You are funny..igbanke people that are crying of marginalization because they are sidelined in Edo meetings due to the fact they speak ika

http://www.abusidiqu.com/press-statement-cede-igbanke-to-the-proposed-anioma-state/?pr=46231&lang=en

You went online and got a shady link on Igbanke people. How many Igbanke people do you know or have you met? Have you been to Igbanke before? Do you know the neighbouring towns and villages around Igbanke? What of their history? Do they claim Igbo or Bini origins? Is their dialect influenced by Bini? Are they Bini people because their ancestor(s) have Bini links? Once again, thread carefully when you respond because these questions are designed to reveal your intellectual impotence.


Besides, go and read the post that brought Igbanke to the conversation and afterwards, assess your own link once again.

Arda1000:
Are expect the orisha onistha tin,remember they other places in igbo that bear onicha or onitsha name bt pronuonciation is the same but different spelling,plenty of them sef,all those ones bini too?

over 30 (thirty) commubities in the vast Eastern Igbo heartland that Onicha is appended to their names. We have Onicha-Ezza in far Ebonyi state,Onicha-umuaka,Onicha-uboma ,Onicha-Nkwerre .............These communities in their own words have nothing to do with Benin or yoruba. Those areas fall within what Igbo anthropolgists call "core-Igbo" in the sense that they did not witness waves of migration as was seen in the Coastal areas.

Igbo History and present evidences tells us that Igboland stretches as far as Igbo-Akiri to the North west (now changed to Igbanke) by enemies of the Igbo. You can start to know the truth this way: take time off,go home on a fact finding tour.Request for a detailed list of all communities with the appendage Onicha in the Eastern Igbo heartland. Visit the elders and note down the respective accounts of their history. With this you can start to establish the true origin of the word Onicha. And that is the key to unravel all these stuff..

Its true because this onitsha of a tin has alot of cut and join history. Some like zik said its a bini corruption word of orin" sha" joined together, despiseing who i dont know,the word pronouced as onitsha or onicha has been in igbo along time its just the meaning i dont know, they eze chima is a bini man,oba iweka this oba iweka that do you need tb joshua to tell that they are igbo who lived in bini b4 coming home

ericuzor:
In the 1560s: The Benin Kingdom produced its first powerful Oba, named Esigie. All Obas derived their wealth, power and mystique from slave trading.

In the 1560s: John Hawkins took the first African slaves from The Slave Coast to Haiti.

What was then called the Slave Coast was later renamed Benin Kingdom, Nigeria, Gold Coast and Ghana. The word "Onitsha" is a corruption of the word "Orisha." The religion Orisha is practiced among Yorubas and Haitians.

Actually, the slave coast was outside Benin Kingdom. And Benin Kingdom was never called "slave coast". The name slave coast came long after the first map of Benin Kingdom was made. And on that map it is clearly stated "Benin Kingdom" in portuguese.
The Oba of Benin is not known for trading in slaves, rather Benin Kingdom sold spices and carved ivory.
The Oba of Benin was already mighty before the first visit of the europeans, and that is the reason they visited him in the first place.
What do they teach you guys in school ?
It is funny how you guys just keep telling science fiction stories while pretending to be studying history.

they are Edo as shown in all precolonial maps.
The truth hurts, deal with it !

fratermathy:
You went online and got a shady link on Igbanke people. How many Igbanke people do you know or have you met? Have you been to Igbanke before? Do you know the neighbouring towns and villages around Igbanke? What of their history? Do they claim Igbo or Bini origins? Is their dialect influenced by Bini? Are they Bini people because their ancestor(s) have Bini links? Once again, thread carefully when you respond because these questions are designed to reveal your intellectual impotence.


Besides, go and read the post that brought Igbanke to the conversation and afterwards, assess your own link once again.

fratermathy:
You went online and got a shady link on Igbanke people. How many Igbanke people do you know or have you met? Have you been to Igbanke before? Do you know the neighbouring towns and villages around Igbanke? What of their history? Do they claim Igbo or Bini origins? Is their dialect influenced by Bini? Are they Bini people because their ancestor(s) have Bini links? Once again, thread carefully when you respond because these questions are designed to reveal your intellectual impotence.


Besides, go and read the post that brought Igbanke to the conversation and afterwards, assess your own link once again.

There is a video on YouTube about the launching/appeal fund for a library in Igbanke. What the Igbanke people did was to kick start the ceremony by blessIng the Kola in Ika, which is a dialect of Igbo. They also responded to the blessing of the Kola by chanting "Ise!". Only Igbo people would do this. Without doubt, the Igbankes are Igbos