₦airaland Forum

adesina746:
Yes we are here. What God are you honouring? You are simply honouring your pastor shikena. Try not to take your tithe to church at all for one year at least, instead take it to motherless babies home or somewhere similar that way you are honouring God by making the needy happy

so when exactly will u be contempt with paying tithes....even when the government misuse tax money to still pay tax...the way people with zero knowledge and understanding talk is always perplexing

Amumaigwe:
Very unrelated question. I agree that every good thing comes from the Lord. According to the bible, what God delights in is worship and thanksgiving not cashgiving. But you can point me to a Bible verse to buttress your point.

Very dumb question
So those that built the church where you worship built it with stone if everybody is greedy like you, there won't be a church or how do you expect them to maintain it
You go to church to worship expecting good things from God yet you don't want to drop a penny for the maintainace of the church
Wicked people

EVILFOREST:
What does ALMIGHTY GOD who created the Heavens and the Earth...... need your useless currency for.... ??
How much do you have...??
How much can one give to God..?
It’s an insult to ask one to Give GOD, Money....
It’s an insult to ask one to bring MONEY to the church, that God needs it....

What God expects of you is simply a hand of charity

True talk. After reading your good comment I checked ur name and guess what? I fainted

Next2Bezee:
Lol.

Now, sheeples will not want to hear that there are people who became successful without tithe.

Which reward? Which time? The rewards are only manifesting themselves in the lives of pastors while the congregation wallows in misery.

Open-mindedness, Hard work, and determination bring success. However, in Nigeria, scamming people with tithe brings success too!

Side Note: Please, someone should ask Oyedepo what the closest galaxy to the milky way is called; you will see as the man will chop his mouth into pieces!

Do you believe in God?

Kemisolabadmus:
Very dumb question
So those that built the church where you worship built it with stone if everybody is greedy like you, there won't be a church or how do you expect them to maintain it
You go to church to worship expecting good things from God yet you don't want to drop a penny for the maintainace of the church
Wicked people

Tithe payer/ defender using gutter language is only a joke. There was no question at all so there can't be a dumb question anywhere.
From your shallow response you agreed with me that giving are made to the church for sundry reasons and not to God. Our God only needs thanksgiving and not cashgiving.
However, It is a good thing to support local church with donations as led.

CodeTemplar:
You give to God by reaching out or ministering to the needy/poor in their area of needs.
It is there in the bible.

Wasn't expecting you to say that but you did, nice one. What am concerned about I'd that tithing is not giving to God but to pastor

Amumaigwe:
Tithe payer/ defender using gutter language is only a joke. There was no question at all so there can't be a dumb question anywhere.
From your shallow response you agreed with me that giving are made to the church for sundry reasons and not to God. Our God only needs thanksgiving and not cashgiving.
However, It is a good thing to support local church with donations as led.

Am only trying to help you out of your misery
Thank God you later agreed subconsciously
So tithe is now cash giving kip on justifying your zombieism
My point remains that no pastor will ever force you to pay tithe in church, people who pay tithe pay them willingly
The fact that you don't pay does not mean you should come here and start discouraging people, a lot of people have been blessed through this

CodeTemplar:
Tithe is largely voluntary and most members aren't being forced to pay it except few small-church dishonest pastors twisting scriptures to get money from brainwashed members. Tithe goes with your understanding.
By the way, your claims about zakat are unheard of, can u back it up?

Zakat (Arabic: زكاة‎ zakāh [zaˈkaː], "that which purifies",[1] also Zakat al-mal [zaˈkaːt alˈmaːl] زكاة المال, "zakat on wealth",[2] or Zakah)[3] is a form of alms-giving treated in Islam as a religious obligation or tax,[4][5] which, by Quranic ranking, is next after prayer (salat) in importance.[6]

As one of the Five Pillars of Islam, zakat is a religious obligation for all Muslims who meet the necessary criteria of wealth.[7] It is a mandatory charitable contribution, the right of the poor to find relief from the rich, and is considered to be a tax, or obligatory alms.[8][9] The payment and disputes on zakat have played a major role in the history of Islam, notably during the Ridda wars. (source- Wikipedia) you can read more about it.

Note the sentence in quote - As one of the Five Pillars of Islam, zakat is a religious obligation for all Muslims "who meet the necessary criteria of wealth". It means you have to meet up to a financial standard before you can give zakat.

Am not a Muslim scholar, if you wanna know more you can ask imams or Alfas around you. Tithe is nothing like Zakat. TITHE IS ALL ABOUT ROBBING THE POOR, WHILE ZAKAT IS GIVING TO THE POOR.

And tithing is not voluntary. The pastors tell you it's voluntary but they use reverse psychology or emotional blackmail to make sure you pay it. A pastor will say it's not by force to pay tithe but if you wanna make heaven or you wanna be rich then you can pay it. What does that mean?

Anyone who pays tithe in 2018 is an ape period, no other way to describe it.

Kemisolabadmus:
Am only trying to help you out of your misery
Thank God you later agreed subconsciously
So tithe is now cash giving kip on justifying your zombieism
My point remains that no pastor will ever force you to pay tithe in church, people who pay tithe pay them willingly
The fact that you don't pay does not mean you should come here and start discouraging people, a lot of people have been blessed through this

You are the miserable one since you could not prove from your Bible that God needs your cash rather you resorted to using gutter languages to advance kingdom arguments. You are the real zombie because you know nothing about what you are saying. Perhaps you are out to secure your church family business under obvious threat. I have never read your post defending Christ with this kind of zeal. Love of money is truly the root of all evil.
So take a quick retreat and seek healing for your misery first.

stopped paying in 2007 , things have been great since then, but some brain washed mofos will start throwing tantrums.

go out do something tangible you will make money, obtaining money via fraudulent means doesnt pay, tithing is a scam.

Immaculatesnow:
I 1000000000 support you guys, Nigeria is dead because of religion and infected women who feed these snakes called pastors

I want a Nigerian verified AdSense account to buy

If Nigeria is dead, I think all Nigerian Verified AdSense accounts are also
DEAD na.

Amberon1:
America is home to over 200 million Christians and has the highest population of Christians in he world. Most of the founding fathers of America were all Christians and even pastors yet America is the greatest country in the world. So what is your point?

I'm talking about Africa

since I ve been faithfully paying my tithes, I ve been experiencing more blessings, so much than I could ever imagine

Amumaigwe:
You are the miserable one since you could not prove from your Bible that God needs your cash rather you resorted to using gutter languages to advance kingdom arguments. You are the real zombie because you know nothing about what you are saying. Perhaps you are out to secure your church family business under obvious threat. I have never read your post defending Christ with this kind of zeal. Love of money is truly the root of all evil.
So take a quick retreat and seek healing for your misery first.

Why are you defending your stupidity
You don't have to take my opinion personal, you talked about thanksgiving yet you are saying God does not want cash ;Dam not a church type the only problem I have with you is that if you know you are not interested in doing something you don't have to discourage other people from doing it,that is where your foolishness lies and that is what am trying to correct

sshyne:
Zakat (Arabic: زكاة‎ zakāh [zaˈkaː], "that which purifies",[1] also Zakat al-mal [zaˈkaːt alˈmaːl] زكاة المال, "zakat on wealth",[2] or Zakah)[3] is a form of alms-giving treated in Islam as a religious obligation or tax,[4][5] which, by Quranic ranking, is next after prayer (salat) in importance.[6]

As one of the Five Pillars of Islam, zakat is a religious obligation for all Muslims who meet the necessary criteria of wealth.[7] It is a mandatory charitable contribution, the right of the poor to find relief from the rich, and is considered to be a tax, or obligatory alms.[8][9] The payment and disputes on zakat have played a major role in the history of Islam, notably during the Ridda wars. (source- Wikipedia) you can read more about it.

Note the sentence in quote - As one of the Five Pillars of Islam, zakat is a religious obligation for all Muslims "who meet the necessary criteria of wealth". It means you have to meet up to a financial standard before you can give zakat.

Am not a Muslim scholar, if you wanna know more you can ask imams or Alfas around you. Tithe is nothing like Zakat. TITHE IS ALL ABOUT ROBBING THE POOR, WHILE ZAKAT IS GIVING TO THE POOR.

And tithing is not voluntary. The pastors tell you it's voluntary but they use reverse psychology or emotional blackmail to make sure you pay it. A pastor will say it's not by force to pay tithe but if you wanna make heaven or you wanna be rich then you can pay it. What does that mean?

Heaven or wealth are not a compulsory but good.

back to zakat, how rich must a person be to pay zakat? It goes to reinforce my view of Islam as a religion of confusion. So Islam now needs people to sit down on a round table and decide what is the definition of a wealthy person around them? It shows why they tend to poke nose into other peoples financial affair, it also explains their dependence on state resources for religious activities because they see the state as rich. It even explains their acceptance of fate as the will of their god.
Christianity stars clearly that tithe is 10% or your increase and leaves no room for ambiguity or confusion.

It means there is democracy within Islam also.

CodeTemplar:
Heaven or wealth are not a compulsory but good.

You believe paying tithe will make you rich and it will lead you to heaven? Are you sure you are reading the same bible we all know. I bow for you.

sshyne:
You believe paying tithe will make you rich and it will lead you to heaven? Are you sure you are reading the same bible we all know. I bow for you.

Isn't tithe God's commandment? or will disregard for God's commandment not draw one away from Him?

sshyne:
Wasn't expecting you to say that but you did, nice one. What am concerned about I'd that tithing is not giving to God but to pastor

Please make this comment clearer.

mubaking:
successful artists are talking these ones sef dey talk

How is skibii not successful

Edybleketara:
Of course. Christians are too gullible, especially Nigerian christians. Pastors know this fact, and they are taking full advantage of it to make money.

Religion isn’t the greatest problem. That is just a cheap excuse to attack Christians alone whereas the problem also comes from non Christians alike.

Americans hv a sense of religion and are doing very well. It is bad governance and wrong mindset of Nigerians thats doing us. We have all failed to uphold the right values and speak against the wrong ones.

whitebeard:
so when exactly will u be contempt with paying tithes....even when the government misuse tax money to still pay tax...the way people with zero knowledge and understanding talk is always perplexing

You yourself you know that people with zero knowledge and understanding like you is not worth arguing with because you can never be reasonable no matter how much an intelligent guy like me try to make you see clearer.

adesina746:
You yourself you know that people with zero knowledge and understanding like you is not worth arguing with because you can never be reasonable no matter how much an intelligent guy like me try to make you see clearer.

u dat u still put ur covertious attitude inside offering bag, u wanna know what the money is used for, are u GOD, will the money na fly to heaven before..paying tithes is between u and GOD not u and ur pastor..!

whitebeard:
u dat u still put ur covertious attitude inside offering bag, u wanna know what the money is used for, are u GOD, will the money na fly to heaven before..paying tithes is between u and GOD not u and ur pastor..!

Ok

adesina746:
Ok

now u know..!

aonag:
Do you believe in God?

Yup. Unlike most, I actually read my bible myself. I don't need any pastor telling me Genesis 1:1 is all about paying tithe.

Do you know anything about the space outside our planet?

rhektor:
It would have been a wise choice for you to have read this piece of shit and pa's a comment without involving others but in your stupidity you feel that you are better than the so called sheeple. If my tithe is paid what is your headache? Your not paying has not changed your lot. You secretly feel like you would be better off but your pain is you are not better than those that pay. Trying to be funny and concluding in your hate filled heart that someone would or did not know what the closest galaxy to the milky-way is out of tithing issue. Let me ask you now what has the knowledge of that galaxy added to you? Moreso, what has the lack of such knowledge removed from those who did not know it? You follow these fools whose worlds has been in shambles without a mind of your own and you are calling some people sheeples? Aren't you worst than those you're trying to diss? Everyman is a slave to his belive either you accept the Christians way or any other way you are a prisoner of your believe

Lol, did the word "Sheeple" pain you? That's what your kind is called, na. It's a kinder word than "brainwashed zombies".

Isn't following after fools something that you're proficient with? Which kind mumu PA a? He's just a thief.

The knowledge of that galaxy I mentioned has rendered me incapable of being brainwashed, unlike you. You can't even muster proper grammar to save your life, yet you are claiming to be successful.

Fact: most sheeples and tithe payers are hungry illiterates. They have allowed thieves to brainwash them into thinking that all they have to do is give their pennies to a church, and success will find them. I got news for you; success comes from hardwork, determination, perseverance, and prayer. If you're doing one without the other, or paying money for success, you will forever remain a poor f00l.

Btw, you are more of a prisoner than I am, and I don't even pity you.

CodeTemplar:
Isn't tithe God's commandment? or will disregard for God's commandment not draw one away from Him?

There are a lot of Gods commandment you are not keeping. They are all the mosaic laws which are 613 in number. This laws have being done away with through the death and resurrection of Christ. I don't really wanna start quoting bible again. I noticed that no matter what I quote from the bible Nigerian Christians won't agree as long as its not coming from the mouth of there pastors. Have a wonderful day bro

sshyne:
There are a lot of Gods commandment you are not keeping. They are all the mosaic laws which are 613 in number. This laws have being done away with through the death and resurrection of Christ. I don't really wanna start quoting bible again. I noticed that no matter what I quote from the bible Nigerian Christians won't agree as long as its not coming from the mouth of there pastors. Have a wonderful day bro

my understanding of the law being suppressed is that the parts explicitly overridden by Jesus are gone for good but not the others. I stand to be correctly.

Kemisolabadmus:
Why are you defending your stupidity
You don't have to take my opinion personal, you talked about thanksgiving yet you are saying God does not want cash ;Dam not a church type the only problem I have with you is that if you know you are not interested in doing something you don't have to discourage other people from doing it,that is where your foolishness lies and that is what am trying to correct

Thanksgiving is the act of giving thanks to God for his goodness: the type that one leper out of 10 that were cleansed by Jesus offered. 'He fell down on his face at His feet, giving Him thanks' Lk 17:16.

Cashgiving is the type you and your manipulative kinds seduce the gullible and weak believers to pay you for the glorious works done freely by God.

Now get lost.

CodeTemplar:
my understanding of the law being suppressed is that the parts explicitly overridden by Jesus are gone for good but not the others. I stand to be correctly.

What part is overriden and what part are the others that are not

Next2Bezee:
Yup. Unlike most, I actually read my bible myself. I don't need any pastor telling me Genesis 1:1 is all about paying tithe.

Do you know anything about the space outside our planet?

Do you sometimes or have you one time wanted to be blessed by the God you believe in or hoped that he did something for you?