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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by walemoney007(m): 11:36am On Oct 04, 2018
allexpensive:
Ever heard of homeless veterans in the United States? You all trying to rubbish your country.
so because veterans have been homeless in the USA, then veterans should be owed pension for a full year in Nigeria grin
How many Nigerian veterans are homeless or living in poverty, do you have the figures?

Show me a post were veterans who served for more than 20 years are homeless in the USA, most of those homeless guys might not even serve for up to 5 years,so they won't be giving pension. We will always find an excuse sha in Nigeria grin

It's an insult to compare the Nigeria military with that of the USA sef in terms of everything, a Nigeria military that has been fighting boko haram that fights with weapons mostly stolen from the Nigeria military in Nigeria for close to 10 years and are still struggling... Fulani herdsmen and bandits are giving the civilian beaters( Nigeria military) a good run for there money sef grin
A wing commander jet was shot down and the man was beheaded by boko haram in a video,the spokesman of the Nigeria airforce(air commodore dele alonge) denied the man was an air force personnel,until his lies were busted grin I'm expecting you to tell me about how a UK aifrorce personnel was also denied by the UK air force soon grin

Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by walemoney007(m): 11:44am On Oct 04, 2018
Buhari thought the civilians beaters could handle Niger delta militants when he stopped paying the militants, by the time the militants started wrecking havoc in the Niger Delta, the mumu Fulani man started paying back the militants grin

The Nigeria military is struggling against militias in the north central and north east,they are struggling against boko haram, they are only able to intimidate the peaceful IPOB, I'm sure if those once start carrying guns,they(Nigerian military) will start crying about not been equipped well and start manoeuvering tactically into Cameroon grin

Good bye, I will be back again in 2-3 weeks time grin
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kikuyu1(m): 12:59pm On Oct 04, 2018
walemoney007:
Only God knows were Fulani/Hausa/berom militants get military camouflage from huh There is a lot of fake military personnel in plateau right now,tension is so high in plateau state. There is 48 hours curfew in some part of plateau state, may God help the people living in plateau state.

Kikuyu when a military personnel retire in kenya,do it take a full year before his or her pension is paid huh
Cause in Nigeria, a military personnel that I personally know,it took more than a year before he started getting his pension undecided

Is this the way it's done in South Africa, Ghana, Zimbabwe, Algeria etc grin
GGAAASSSSPPP! Hellz no-not even in the nightmarish Moi era when we spent an entire decade of the 90s in perpetual unravelling on all levels. How do they survive?
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kikuyu1(m): 1:04pm On Oct 04, 2018
Algerian1:
For large scale exercices 6 to 8 each year . and a lot of smaller exercices .


Algerian army have 6 military region ( pic ) each region have its own commandment and have to show what they have done during a year of formation , each year during 3 to 5 days large scale exercices . and also during suprise visit ! ( the big boss come and tell them you have 24 h , or 48 h to simulate a large scale agression )


Some exercice this year


Tempest 2018 , october 1 ( 4th military region)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYSLN4BQhos



Sweep 2018 september,10 (3rd military region)

Start from 01:12

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Oj6qxIZ9EM



Rock 2018 june, 26 ( 2nd military region)

Start from 00:35 to 03:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diiYY9fF7KQ



Flood 2018 may 2018 ( 2nd military region) with navy

Start from 04:30

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqmTw6JB0xE



May , 2018 ( 4th military region )


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REi6jTlfJEo





Pic : Algerian military regions
Wow! Here live fire brigade ex is twice yearly. Saffas,what about you? Tbh,though, possible invasions and/or incursions from conventional formations are extremely unlikely unlike Algeria with hostile neighbours and ofc France ever evil lurking in the background .
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by rka2: 1:54pm On Oct 04, 2018
I don't t quite understand why individuals will not take their politics elsewhere. This is a military thread. Majority of people here are not interested. Go and start your own threads and good luck to you.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by allexpensive: 4:29pm On Oct 04, 2018
bidexiii:
My guess is, #Iswap snatched the artellery piece from the Nigèriens military.
This one no be our own. This artillery has been used on our position severally. This is not the first time and ATF has destroyed some.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by allexpensive: 4:31pm On Oct 04, 2018
walemoney007:
Buhari thought the civilians beaters could handle Niger delta militants when he stopped paying the militants, by the time the militants started wrecking havoc in the Niger Delta, the mumu Fulani man started paying back the militants grin

The Nigeria military is struggling against militias in the north central and north east,they are struggling against boko haram, they are only able to intimidate the peaceful IPOB, I'm sure if those once start carrying guns,they(Nigerian military) will start crying about not been equipped well and start manoeuvering tactically into Cameroon grin

Good bye, I will be back again in 2-3 weeks time grin
Usual spill from a civilian who knows nothing about the military bureaucracy. A full scale attack on Nigeria delta militants will have them silenced. They have been hiding under the cover of innocent civilians and their community has been protecting them.

Not minding this, the useless media will paint the military bad and this is what MOD has been avoiding.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by ugo4u: 4:47pm On Oct 04, 2018
allexpensive:
Usual spill from a civilian who knows nothing about the military bureaucracy. A full scale attack on Nigeria delta militants will have them silenced. They have been hiding under the cover of innocent civilians and their community has been protecting them.

Not minding this, the useless media will paint the military bad and this is what MOD has been avoiding.
Oga stop dignifying that young man with ur reponse.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 5:20pm On Oct 04, 2018
allexpensive:
Usual spill from a civilian who knows nothing about the military bureaucracy. A full scale attack on Nigeria delta militants will have them silenced. They have been hiding under the cover of innocent civilians and their community has been protecting them.

Not minding this, the useless media will paint the military bad and this is what MOD has been avoiding.
God knows that fellow is not worth the trouble
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by ugo4u: 7:10pm On Oct 04, 2018
Guys something happened today in my area, I saw people lining up enmeass, upon enquiry on what's going on, I was told that the FG is sharing the Abacha loot to the masses(N10,000). I was gobsmacked, the first thing that came to mind was, is this not the country in which her military is literally begging for money to fund the war against insurgency? It then occured to me that the FG is not serious in this fight wallahi. It is shameful even to conduct enlistment some arm of service are finding it difficult because of paucity of funds, yet we can't set our priorities right.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 7:11pm On Oct 04, 2018
Totally unrelated
I don't know if this is correct, but I heard that the navy has released DSSC form... How true is this?
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by ugo4u: 7:42pm On Oct 04, 2018
Field0Marshall:
Totally unrelated
I don't know if this is correct, but I heard that the navy has released DSSC form... How true is this?

Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 10:01pm On Oct 04, 2018
Tempest 2018 exercice , october, 01 , algerian army




Start the video from 02:07

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zFHXZROCGc

Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii(op): 10:06pm On Oct 04, 2018
Algerian1:
Tempest 2018 exercice , october, 01 , algerian army




Start the video from 02:07

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zFHXZROCGc
Beautiful pictures.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii(op): 10:09pm On Oct 04, 2018
ugo4u:
Guys something happened today in my area, I saw people lining up enmeass, upon enquiry on what's going on, I was told that the FG is sharing the Abacha loot to the masses(N10,000). I was gobsmacked, the first thing that came to mind was, is this not the country in which her military is literally begging for money to fund the war against insurgency? It then occured to me that the FG is not serious in this fight wallahi. It is shameful even to conduct enlistment some arm of service are finding it difficult because of paucity of funds, yet we can't set our priorities right.
Where did these happened and how are we sure it's the Abacha loot they are sharing shocked
Am shocked and I find it difficult to believe these huh
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by ugo4u: 10:38pm On Oct 04, 2018
bidexiii:
Where did these happened and how are we sure it's the Abacha loot they are sharing shocked
Am shocked and I find it difficult to believe these huh
@Kaduna. Bakin dogo exactly..
The facilitators clearly made it known to the people that it was abacha loot.
I would've taken pix but unfortunately my fone ba3 was down.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Habane(m): 10:56pm On Oct 04, 2018
ugo4u:
@Kaduna. Bakin dogo exactly..
The facilitators clearly made it known to the people that it was abacha loot.
I would've taken pix but unfortunately my fone ba3 was down.
Have you heard of the federal government TraderMoni scheme?
Soft no collateral loan given to petty traders
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by joshingjosh(m): 12:31am On Oct 05, 2018
BabaOwen:
[s]The Minister of Information and Culture, Lai Mohammed, has revealed the main reason the federal government branded the Indigenous People of Biafra (IPOB) a terrorist organization.


According to the Minister, the pro-Biafra group had to be labeled a terror group in order to halt its global funding and, by extension, its ‘future’.

Mohammed, who made this known in an article he wrote for Washington Times, appealed to Nigeria’s “international partners to do the same.”


He wrote, “Currently, streams of cash come from across the globe to swell the organization’s stockpile of weapons. Yet funding of terrorism is illegal in international law. Only with the group’s correct categorization will our international partners be able to halt the financing — and with it, IPOB’s future.

“Terrorism is often called the power of the weak. That IPOB indeed are. But if the last decade has taught us anything, it is how quickly the weak can become strong.

“The government reiterates its appeal to its international partners to proscribe the organization, and in doing so, starve it of the funds which gives it sustenance.


“Nigeria has just defeated one preventable terrorist insurgency. This one must not be given the chance to get a foothold.

“The threat posed by the organization may be low. IPOB commands little grass-root support in the South East (the region it calls Biafra). All South-East governors have collectively condemned IPOB’s calls for secession. And local traditional and religious leaders have weighed into the debate, restating that absolute integrity of Nigeria.

“Violence, much less terrorism, never solves grievance. And for that reason, the overwhelming majority of residents in the South-East reject IPOB. They know the ballot box offers the best mechanism for redress.

“In spite of this, the latent threat is high. Boko Haram similarly had little support in the North East in 2009. They didn’t need it. Armed with terror and buoyed by government inaction, they seized large swathes of land. Inertia in Abuja lubricated the group’s advance. But now due to this government’s actions, Boko Haram hold no local districts.

“This administration shall not make the same mistake as the last. We will take the rapid, precise and necessary action required to deal with IPOB now.

“The government recognizes in IPOB’s lust for destruction a trait shared with Boko Haram. It also appreciates a qualitative difference in the threat. Unlike Boko Haram — a regional insurgency — IPOB breeds insecurity across the whole nation. In their divisive and inciting rhetoric, they jeopardize the very social fabric that binds us.”


What truth are you talking about, the federal government of Nigeria said IPOB is a terrorist organization
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But Fulani herdsmen are peace lovers I guess??... Keep your news to yourself am not interested in it
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 3:19am On Oct 05, 2018
Lol, corruption, no way in hell should any Government be giving cash to anyone.
And if at all that happens, that money should go straight into their banking accounts.
I doubt this is some abacha loot.
The idea of giving free money to one part of people in the country and not the rest is insane at best.
Invest that money into job training, give long term loans to people with very little interest etc.
But to give out cash? while people line up for it, lol, that's sad and backwards.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by NNAMDIII(m): 3:49am On Oct 05, 2018
Nigerian Air force special force

Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 6:28am On Oct 05, 2018
joshingjosh:
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But Fulani herdsmen are peace lovers I guess??... Keep your news to yourself am not interested in it
you shouldn't have quote me then.

IPOB are terrorist.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by walemoney007(m): 6:44am On Oct 05, 2018
allexpensive:
Usual spill from a civilian who knows nothing about the military bureaucracy. A full scale attack on Nigeria delta militants will have them silenced. They have been hiding under the cover of innocent civilians and their community has been protecting them.

Not minding this, the useless media will paint the military bad and this is what MOD has been avoiding.
just the way a full scale attack on boko haram since a state of emergency was declared in the north east by GEJ has made boko haram totally silent and defeated.

We all saw the result of a full scale attack on odi in bayelsa and zaki biam in benue,and we can see how it's keeping the people of plateau state safe.

The Nigeria military is only powerful when facing unarmed civilians and IPOB.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by walemoney007(m): 7:00am On Oct 05, 2018
kikuyu1:
GGAAASSSSPPP! Hellz no-not even in the nightmarish Moi era when we spent an entire decade of the 90s in perpetual unravelling on all levels. How do they survive?
the military or government does not care if you beg to survive or die,in fact,a lot of Nigeria senior military officers want you to die so they will share your pension among each other.

Forget all this pic they are busy showing you here,Nigeria is not a safe country...in most part of the middle belt people are killed everyday by Fulani herdsmen,cattle rustlers and different kind of armed bandits. Even the war on boko haram, is not been won by the military, everything is just propaganda by the useless buhari government and the Nigeria military compare the weapons boko haram capture from the Nigeria military with what the military capture from boko haram.

It's just a matter of time before the middle belt shall capitulate. The kin news you hear about Nigeria, shame go just dey catch person sad

Well,I dey Kuala Lumpur dey monitor as things dey go cool
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by giles14(m): 7:16am On Oct 05, 2018
ugo4u:
Guys something happened today in my area, I saw people lining up enmeass, upon enquiry on what's going on, I was told that the FG is sharing the Abacha loot to the masses(N10,000). I was gobsmacked, the first thing that came to mind was, is this not the country in which her military is literally begging for money to fund the war against insurgency? It then occured to me that the FG is not serious in this fight wallahi. It is shameful even to conduct enlistment some arm of service are finding it difficult because of paucity of funds, yet we can't set our priorities right.
don't mind them.

since election is by the corner wonders shall be happening.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii(op): 7:33am On Oct 05, 2018
ugo4u:
@Kaduna. Bakin dogo exactly..
The facilitators clearly made it known to the people that it was abacha loot.
I would've taken pix but unfortunately my fone ba3 was down.
huh God these country tire me self.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii(op): 8:09am On Oct 05, 2018
allexpensive:
This one no be our own. This artillery has been used on our position severally. This is not the first time and ATF has destroyed some.
These boko boys are good at innovating cheesy
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by joshingjosh(m): 8:54am On Oct 05, 2018
BabaOwen:
[s]you shouldn't have quote me then.

IPOB are terrorist.
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The only reason why I won't take this quarrel up with you is that I will derail the thread which I don't want to...but still I will allow you to say what you want to say and don't ever quote me again
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by allexpensive: 9:15am On Oct 05, 2018
walemoney007:
just the way a full scale attack on boko haram since a state of emergency was declared in the north east by GEJ has made boko haram totally silent and defeated.

We all saw the result of a full scale attack on odi in bayelsa and zaki biam in benue,and we can see how it's keeping the people of plateau state safe.

The Nigeria military is only powerful when facing unarmed civilians and IPOB.
Collateral damage. I have been in an encounter with bokoharam using human shield during our offensive. In most cases, advancing becomes really hard due to the presence of civilians.

Mind you, ISWAP /bht have several of our offensive on video ready to embarrass the military with collateral damages.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by joshingjosh(m): 9:26am On Oct 05, 2018
Please soldiers and my fellow civilians on the thread, can someone just enlighten me more or their own opinion why they think the Nigerian Military head decided to use $600m for the acquisition of super tucanos trainer aircraft, when they can get this

1) Ka -52 Russian helicopter at unit cost of $16m which 10 of it will cost ($160m) and we will still have enough change for guns sad huh

2) Bell AH1 Cobra helicopter at unit cost of $11.3m 12 units of it will cost $135.6m.. they will still be balance for more upgrade cool cool

3 Chinook CH 47 helicopter at unit cost of $38.55m and 10 units will cost $385.5m... With this, Boko Haram won't be able to see their period grin grin....

Remember this Chinook helicopter can also serve as medium transport and also the KA 52.



NOTE: This is my own opinion it's open for criticism. You can also modify it anybody can comment on it.

Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii(op):
joshingjosh:
Please soldiers and my fellow civilians on the thread, can someone just enlighten me more or their own opinion why they think the Nigerian Military head decided to use $600m for the acquisition of super tucanos trainer aircraft, when they can get this

1) Ka -52 Russian helicopter at unit cost of $16m which 10 of it will cost ($160m) and we will still have enough change for guns sad huh

2) Bell AH1 Cobra helicopter at unit cost of $11.3m 12 units of it will cost $135.6m.. they will still be balance for more upgrade cool cool

3 Chinook CH 47 helicopter at unit cost of $38.55m and 10 units will cost $385.5m... With this, Boko Haram won't be able to see their period grin grin....

Remember this Chinook helicopter can also serve as medium transport and also the KA 52.



NOTE: This is my own opinion it's open for criticism. You can also modify it anybody can comment on it.
You've asked a very good question and in a very mature way.
First of all, the KA 52, Chinook and Bell AH1 cobra etc..... are also very good assets and we need them. But here comes the question what do we really need to change the tide of these war, we can respond get every of these things you've mentioned, then when we call ORDER OF PRIORITY sets in.

The super tucano is not only an aircraft trainer, it can be used for ISR and border patrol missions and attack aircraft to support ground troops. And these aircraft can deliver varieties of munitions.

I think the problem is the huge price been splashed on the 12 aircrafts but considering what we will be getting from the entire package deal; it's not a waste at all !!! Some few pages back I have highlighted most of what we are getting if not all; the equipment, infrastructure & training etc.

The super tucano is really a game changer compared to the other assets you've mentioned. We really need them, it was specifically designed for COIN/Border patrol. Air power is critical to a successful counter terrorism campaign, the Indonesian airforce knew how these aircraft changed the dynamics of the war.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 11:36am On Oct 05, 2018
First time NAF has mentioned the JF-17 in any of their official statements.

“PAKISTAN ASSURES NAF OF INCREASED STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP IN EQUIPMENT ACQUISITION, TRAINING, OTHERS

The Islamic Republic of Pakistan has assured the Nigerian Air Force (NAF) of its readiness to strengthen its strategic partnership with the Service in equipment and spares acquisition, research and development, training and other relevant areas to further enhance professionalism and build capacity for the effective and efficient employment of Air Power. This was made known yesterday, 4 October 2018, by the Pakistan High Commissioner to Nigeria, Major General Waqar Ahmad Kingravi (Retired), during a courtesy visit to the Chief of the Air Staff (CAS), Air Marshal Sadique Abubakar, at the Headquarters (HQ) NAF Abuja.

While speaking during the visit, the Pakistan High Commissioner expressed his appreciation to the CAS for the warm reception accorded him and the Defence Adviser, Colonel Shahid Aziz, who accompanied him on the visit. He said he was at HQ NAF to assure the CAS of the commitment of the Pakistan Government to strengthening the existing cordial relationship between Nigeria and Pakistan, which had spanned several decades and yielded several mutually beneficial military collaborations. The High Commissioner noted that he, having once headed the Army Aviation Corp of the Pakistan Army, was familiar with peculiar requirements of air operations and would pay particular attention to ensure that the ties between the air forces of the 2 countries were taken to even greater heights. Major General Waqar also used the opportunity to commiserate with the NAF for the tragic air mishap that occurred on 28 September 2018, which led to the death of Squadron Leader Mohammed Bello Baba-Ari.

In his remarks, Air Marshal Abubakar welcomed the Pakistan High Commissioner to Nigeria and thanked him for visiting HQ NAF. The CAS confirmed that the relationship between the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) and NAF was extremely cordial and had continued to grow over the past few years. He noted that the story of the successes recorded in the counter insurgency operations in the North East could not be written without mentioning the support rendered by the Pakistan Government. He recounted several occasions when the PAF had gone beyond the usual to assist the NAF. Air Marshal Abubakar therefore assured the High Commissioner that the NAF would continue to provide the necessary support and cooperation to enable him succeed. The CAS however used the opportunity to canvass for closer coordination in order to fast track the process for the acquisition of the JF-17 multirole fighter aircraft from Pakistan. He also appealed to the High Commissioner to liaise with PAF to develop a special programme for the conduct of basic fighter training for NAF pilots.

IBIKUNLE DARAMOLA
Air Commodore
Director of Public Relations and Information
Nigerian Air Force

Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by joshingjosh(m): 11:45am On Oct 05, 2018
bidexiii:
You've asked a very good question and in a very mature way.
First of all, the KA 52, Chinook and Bell AH1 cobra etc..... are also very good assets and we need them. But here comes the question what do we really need to change the time of these war, we can respond get every of these things you've mentioned, then when we call ORDER OF PRIORITY sets in.

The super tucano is not only an aircraft trainer, it can be used for ISR and border patrol missions and attack aircraft to support ground troops. And these aircraft can deliver varieties of munitions.

I think the problem is the huge price been splashed on the 12 aircrafts but considering what we will be getting from the entire package deal; it's not a waste at all !!! Some few pages back I have highlighted most of what we are getting if not all; the equipment, infrastructure & training etc.

The super tucano is really a game changer compared to the other assets you've mentioned. We really need them, it was specifically designed for COIN/Border patrol. Air power is critical to a successful counter terrorism campaign, the Indonesian airforce knew how these aircraft changed the dynamics of the war.
Okay... thanks for the contribution
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