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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by tevanso(m): 11:38am On Oct 04, 2018
Daboomb:







You dont need the client's survey plan, to answer that question, if you are truly a Professional as you claim!

You and l know the dimensions of a plot, fromthat you can calculate for two plots and you know the dimensions of a Block.
Based on the above, you should be able to give him, at least, an estimate of what the cost will look like, plus or minus 10%.

Some of you just try to trick unsuspecting newbees into parting with their vital documents so they can be hooked to you.
Stop the desperation!

Buyers Beware! We have said it many times on this thread. Dont get Scammed, It has happened before.
u are an idiot to quote me on what I requested for, did I ask him to bring his original documents for me or what are u saying with ur rubbish mouth or typing with ur stupid fingers . what I requested for is not out of place for u to respond with such rubbish.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by jabolo(m): 12:03pm On Oct 04, 2018
tevanso:
u are an idiot to quote me on what I requested for, did I ask him to bring his original documents for me or what are u saying with ur rubbish mouth or typing with ur stupid fingers . what I requested for is not out of place for u to respond with such rubbish.

*Idiot *Rubbish mouth *Stupid fingers ... see anger!

Chill chief, there are better ways to respond. You could have calmly explained why you asked for what you asked for. Still, you needed to vent, so feel better?

You run a business in the real world. As a client, I would jejely dodge you since you probably have the capacity to start a fight in an empty room.

Use this forum well. Learn from the best service providers, whom you will never see engaging in unnecessary e-fights. The likes of Spyder, alcopacetic, rotech, kolashange...

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 12:06pm On Oct 04, 2018
Abdomox:
Ajibode side.

Please what was the dimension of yours?


12x12 n 8x8

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 12:32pm On Oct 04, 2018
jabolo:


*Idiot *Rubbish mouth *Stupid fingers ... see anger!

Chill chief, there are better ways to respond. You could have calmly explained why you asked for what you asked for. Still, you needed to vent, so feel better?

You run a business in the real world. As a client, I would jejely dodge you since you probably have the capacity to start a fight in an empty room.

Use this forum well. Learn from the best service providers, whom you will never see engaging in unnecessary e-fights. The likes of Spyder, alcopacetic, rotech, kolashange...


You would have allowed the person he responded to, to return a response if need be.

Whatever he requested for is not entirely out of place and he did not force the Op to put up his survey plan on here or send it privately.

This cartel sort of arrangement fellas do here is so funny.
It is the way and manner words are exchanged here made Egun Mogaji to take a break while he handles here from time to time with his alternate moniker.

Let's take a break from provoking persons and stop playing sides.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by SoftHeart(m): 1:14pm On Oct 04, 2018
Etranshub:


Not sure about how many bags of cement but can give you a break down on the 12mm road. Buy 20 lengths that will be enough.

Breakdown

Let's assume you are using a square ring (irrespective of the size)
* doors = cut maximum of 5ft per length by 4 (square ring) = 20ft /door lintel by 17 doors = 340 divide by 38 (a length of rod is between 38ft-40ft)=8.9 lengths of rods

* window (let's assume your windows are 4ft by 4ft) cut maximum of 6ft per length by 4 (square ring)= 24ft /window lintel by 14 windows =336 divide by 38 = 8.8 lengths of rod

* toilet windows (2ft by 2ft window) cut 3ft by 4 pcs = 12/toilet window by 4 windows = 48fts divide by 38 = 1.3 lenths of rod.

Total = 8.9+8.8+1.3= 18.9 lengths

Thanks for this. I have a similar project with a total of 17 doors and 14 big windows and 6 small windows (for toilet/bathrooms and store). So from your estimate, I think 20 to 22 lengths will be enough. Please any idea for the cost per length or total cost for the 20 lengths?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by tevanso(m): 1:17pm On Oct 04, 2018
bixton:



You would have allowed the person he responded to, to return a response if need be.

Whatever he requested for is not entirely out of place and he did not force the Op to put up his survey plan on here or send it privately.

This cartel sort of arrangement fellas do here is so funny.
It is the way and manner words are exchanged here made Egun Mogaji to take a break while he handles here from time to time with his alternate moniker.

Let's take a break from provoking persons and stop playing sides.
God bless u bosd

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rubbiish(m): 3:01pm On Oct 04, 2018
Abdomox:
Hi all,

Please I want to dig septic tank and soakaway:

Septic Tank- 8ft by 10ft...12ft Deoth
Soakaway- 4ft by 4ft...12ft depth
Location- Ibadan

Kindly advise on digging cost pls.
12ft for soakaway?? isn't that too much?
It's just to drain water & nothing more.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Etranshub(m): 3:09pm On Oct 04, 2018
SoftHeart:


Thanks for this. I have a similar project with a total of 17 doors and 14 big windows and 6 small windows (for toilet/bathrooms and store). So from your estimate, I think 20 to 22 lengths will be enough. Please any idea for the cost per length or total cost for the 20 lengths?
yes 20-22 will be adequate for your projet since its just 2 toiler windies diffence...price per length of 12mm rod is between 2000-2300 as of today between lagos-ogun state I am not sure about other states though
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by joycluv: 3:26pm On Oct 04, 2018
I did my foundation filling May dis year and since then rain has been falling on it. Is there still need to do compaction before doing German floor? Advice plz
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gabbytabby: 3:47pm On Oct 04, 2018
Setting block not more than 3 days for bricklayer and labour 18k carpenter and welder day job so 8k. Bricklayer fills the mould with concrete and plaster cover 2 days 12k so total of 38k should do for the chambers. You buy all materials.

Block, cement. Sand, iron rod, plank. Granite or gravel.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Abdomox: 4:03pm On Oct 04, 2018
Rubbiish:

12ft for soakaway?? isn't that too much?
It's just to drain water & nothing more.

Sorry, meant 7ft for the soakaway
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rubbiish(m): 4:19pm On Oct 04, 2018
Abdomox:

Sorry, meant 7ft for the soakaway
ok my love
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rubbiish(m): 4:22pm On Oct 04, 2018
joycluv:
I did my foundation filling May dis year and since then rain has been falling on it. Is there still need to do compaction before doing German floor? Advice plz
I think ramming is what u need to do, inorder to know if it has been well compacted...But it ought to by now considering the duration & high level of rainfall this year.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by joycluv: 4:34pm On Oct 04, 2018
Rubbiish:

I think ramming is what u need to do, inorder to know if it has been well compacted...But it ought to by now considering the duration & high level of rainfall this year.
. Is there any implications of I don't do the ramming. This is my first building and I don't want any problem arising in the future
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 4:43pm On Oct 04, 2018
Thanks very much for this, the thing be wan tire me, I looked through some of your threads and i see you are familiar with Baruwa, Iyana Ipaja, my site is actually there in New London, Are you reachable on WhatsApp?


gabbytabby:
Setting block not more than 3 days for bricklayer and labour 18k carpenter and welder day job so 8k. Bricklayer fills the mould with concrete and plaster cover 2 days 12k so total of 38k should do for the chambers. You buy all materials.

Block, cement. Sand, iron rod, plank. Granite or gravel.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 4:44pm On Oct 04, 2018
Thanks boss, I appreciate ��


bixton:


Apologies. My bad.
Please forming inspection chambers should be about #2k/chamber inclusive of dressing and the slab/cover.
You'll provide the blocks/cement/sand/rods (slab cover).
A mason will handle the construction of chambers.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by SoftHeart(m): 5:00pm On Oct 04, 2018
Etranshub:
yes 20-22 will be adequate for your projet since its just 2 toiler windies diffence...price per length of 12mm rod is between 2000-2300 as of today between lagos-ogun state I am not sure about other states though
Thanks
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Kaybthaniels(m): 5:05pm On Oct 04, 2018
Apart from concrete interlocking & stamped concrete flooring for a compound or driveway, which other flooring or alternatives can one go for that is presentable & less expensive?

Does anyone have any idea(s)?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Daboomb: 5:40pm On Oct 04, 2018
ceelog:


At over 7.5meters and a bungalow...low pressure I guess the pipping was done badly. Size of pipe? Route of pipe? There must be a physics explanation for such low pressures at that height

I salute your intelligence.

@Rotech77 should just tell us what he did, so others can learn from it, to solve such problem.
We are on this thread to share and learn, not to form Whoodinni the magician. grin grin grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Daboomb: 6:27pm On Oct 04, 2018
bixton:



You would have allowed the person he responded to, to return a response if need be.

Whatever he requested for is not entirely out of place
and he did not force the Op to put up his survey plan on here or send it privately.

This cartel sort of arrangement fellas do here is so funny.
It is the way and manner words are exchanged here made Egun Mogaji to take a break while he handles here from time to time with his alternate moniker.

Let's take a break from provoking persons and stop playing sides.



I am disappointed at your post, maybe YOU TOO should have allowed the person that @jabolo's post was directed to, to respond?
You see, at times, we are guilty of what we accuse other of.

But that is by the way.
I dont have to be the one to respond to him, infact, l just ignored his response because he has shown the "type of Personand Contractor he is".

Tracypacy:
How much does it cost to fence a two plot for land like two coaches?

The problem was someone who wants to do TWO coaches of Fence, round his TWO plots of land.

Okay, let's go there:
One Plot is either 50 x 100 or 60 x 120 (for large Plots)
You simply take the Perimeter of Both plots, lying side-by-side (say 100 (length) + 50 + 50 (double breath) + 100 (length) + 50 + 50 (breath) = 400ft.

Did l need a Survey plan to calculate that?
shocked shocked

Now, each Block (say the Client wants to use 6" Blocks) is 18" in length (or 1.5ft).
Thus, if you divide 400 ft by 1.5ft, you get 266.7 or 267 Blocks approximately.

We need to factor-in breakages (minus) and Mortar-fillings between the Blocks (additive), eventually, these two will cancel each other, approximately.

We also know that a Big 15ft Gate will remove 10 Blocks from the line it is placed.
So, if he is installing a Gate, he will use approximately 257 Units of 6" Blocks (otherwise, he will use 267 Blocks approx)

If he decides to use Blocks as Pillars (by doubling them, he will place pillars at every 6 blocks interval).
That mean he would have about 267 divided by 6 = 45 Pillars ( 43 Block Pillars, with Gate inclusive)
Therefore, an extra block for each Pillar = 45 or 43 Blocks extra, depending.

In all 257 + 44 (average) = 301 Blocks required for first, ground coach.
Two Coaches is 301 x 2 = 602.
Let us round it up to 650 Blocks, maximum.

If he is using concrete Pillars of 9" thickness with a Gate inlcusive, he will still use 43 Concrete Pillars and (257 - 22 ) = 237 Blocks.
Again, let us round it up to 250 Blocks per coach.
Thus total number of Blocks required, for the Two Plots Perimeter fencing (side-by-side), with 10ft Gate installed, 9" Concrete Pillars at every six blocks interval AND for TWO Coaches Perimeter = 500 Blocks MAXIMUM

Cost in Naira, will now depend on how much A Tipper of Sand and a Bag of Cement are sold @Tracypacy's own Area.

Did l collect his survey plan to answer his question?
No. undecided undecided

So, l am right to say he does not need a survey plan to answer simple question like was asked.

That he chose to show his level and be raining abuse like l have taken food from his mouth, just shows how desperate he is.


I wont dignify him with a reply and you too can tell us WHY you think that question cannot be answered, providing the person with a close as possible answer, without seeing his survey plan (that survey plan contains a lot of personal details and should only be shared when ablsolutely necessry.).

Thank you.


#jabolo: Thanks for responding, even without my prompting. I understand itt is just natural not to allow this sort of malfeanse to pass without a response. He is who he is.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 6:43pm On Oct 04, 2018
Daboomb:




I am disappointed at your post, maybe YOU TOO should have allowed the person that @jabolo's post was directed to, to respond?
You see, at times, we are guilty of what we accuse other of.

But that is by the way.
I dont have to be the one to respond to him, infact, l just ignored his response because he has shown the "type of Personand Contractor he is".



The problem was someone who wants to do TWO coaches of Fence, round his TWO plots of land.

Okay, let's go there:
One Plot is either 50 x 100 or 60 x 120 (for large Plots)
You simply take the Perimeter of Both plots, lying side-by-side (say 100 (length) + 50 + 50 (double breath) + 100 (length) + 50 + 50 (breath) = 400ft.

Did l need a Survey plan to calculate that?
shocked shocked

Now, each Block (say the Client wants to use 6" Blocks) is 18" in length (or 1.5ft).
Thus, if you divide 400 ft by 1.5ft, you get 266.7 or 267 Blocks approximately.

We need to factor-in breakages (minus) and Mortar-fillings between the Blocks (additive), eventually, these two will cancel each other, approximately.

We also know that a Big 15ft Gate will remove 10 Blocks from the line it is placed.
So, if he is installing a Gate, he will use approximately 257 Units of 6" Blocks (otherwise, he will use 267 Blocks approx)

If he decides to use Blocks as Pillars (by doubling them, he will place pillars at every 6 blocks interval).
That mean he would have about 267 divided by 6 = 45 Pillars ( 43 Block Pillars, with Gate inclusive)
Therefore, an extra block for each Pillar = 45 or 43 Blocks extra, depending.

In all 257 + 44 (average) = 301 Blocks required for first, ground coach.
Two Coaches is 301 x 2 = 602.
Let us round it up to 650 Blocks, maximum.

If he is using concrete Pillars of 9" thickness with a Gate inlcusive, he will still use 43 Concrete Pillars and (257 - 22 ) = 237 Blocks.
Again, let us round it up to 250 Blocks per coach.
Thus total number of Blocks required, for the Two Plots Perimeter fencing (side-by-side), with 10ft Gate installed, 9" Concrete Pillars at every six blocks interval AND for TWO Coaches Perimeter = 500 Blocks MAXIMUM

Cost in Naira, will now depend on how much A Tipper of Sand and a Bag of Cement are sold @Tracypacy's own Area.

Did l collect his survey plan to answer his question?
No. undecided undecided

So, l am right to say he does not need a survey plan to answer simple question like was asked.

That he chose to show his level and be raining abuse like l have taken food from his mouth, just shows how desperate he is.


I wont dignify him with a reply and you too can tell us WHY you think that question cannot be answered, providing the person with a close as possible answer, without seeing his survey plan (that survey plan contains a lot of personal details and should only be shared when ablsolutely necessry.).

Thank you.


#jabolo: Thanks for responding, even without my prompting. I understand itt is just natural not to allow this sort of malfeanse to pass without a response. He is who he is.


So you had it in you to put up a quote, yet decided to call someone a fraud indirectly.
I'm definitely disappointed.
We are all who we are.
God knows us best.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 7:01pm On Oct 04, 2018
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Daboomb: 8:01pm On Oct 04, 2018
bixton:



So you had it in you to put up a quote, yet decided to call someone a fraud indirectly.
I'm definitely disappointed.
We are all who we are.
God knows us best.



Dont even try using your 'reverse psychology' to accuse me of another thing, while trying to defend that your possibly fraudulent and desperate fellow Contractor. undecided
I just did the ESTIMATION now, now, but l was on my way out when l made the earlier post, just to tell him he does not need someone Survey Plan, to answer a request for something as simple as what was asked.
Calculations l am giving out to someone will not done when l am in a hurry, to avoid mistakes. That was why l could not do the estimation immediately.
At least l have done it while You and your friend are still expecting the person's survey plan. undecided shocked shocked
Or maybe you want to condemn the calculation, since l am not a Contractor?


Again, you are pushing your luck too far!
It is NOT a Quote, because unlike you and the desperate contractor you are defending, l am not a Contractor.
(Just an ordinary floor member here, who have gained from the FREE contributions of others and will always encourage and provide my own little FREE contribution, whenever l can).
No one can say l have ever prospect for any job, anywhere. I have been a Client at various times

From your own statements, you obviously also agree that it is FRAUDULENT, to be asking for somebody's survey plan, just to give them a rough estimation of something as basic as erecting two coaches of perimeter fencing of two plots of land when it can be done without such Survey Plan being handed over.


BTW: You still have not told us (as you claimed), how it is impossible to do that Calculation without laying your hands on the Survey plan of that Nairalander?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 8:09pm On Oct 04, 2018
Daboomb:


You are pushing your luck too far!

I just did the ESTIMATION now, now, but l was on my way out when l made the earlier post, just to tell him he does not need someone Survey Plan, to answer a request for something as simple as what was asked.
Calculations l am giving out to someone will not done when l am in a hurry, to avoid mistakes. That was why l could not do the estimation immediately.
At least l have done it while You and your friend are still expecting the person's survey plan. undecided shocked shocked
Or maybe you want to condemn the calculation, since l am not a Contractor?


Again, it is NOT a Quote, because unlike you and the desperate contractor you are defending, l am not a Contractor.
(Just an ordinary floor member here, who have gained from the FREE contributions of others and will always encourage and provide my own little FREE contribution, whenever l can).
No one can say l have ever prospect for any job, anywhere. I have been a Client at various times

From your own statements, you obviously also agree that it is FRAUDULENT, to be asking for somebody's survey plan, just to give them a rough estimation of something as basic as erecting two coaches of perimeter fencing of two plots of land when it can be done without such Survey Plan being handed over.

Dont even try to you 'reverse psychology' to accuse me of another thing while trying to defend that your possibly fraudulentand desperate fellow Contractor. undecided

BTW: You still have not told us (as you claimed), how it is impossible to do that Calculation without laying your hands on the Survey plan of that Nairalander?


Between this post and the previous I wonder which is even lengthy since you claimed to have being in a hurry.
Thanks for rendering answers.
You have done well.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by raymondFirstborn(m): 8:14pm On Oct 04, 2018
joycluv:
I did my foundation filling May dis year and since then rain has been falling on it. Is there still need to do compaction before doing German floor? Advice plz

yes you need to compact it's very important.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by joycluv: 8:57pm On Oct 04, 2018
raymondFirstborn:


yes you need to compact it's very important.
Am most grateful
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Daboomb: 12:04am On Oct 05, 2018
bixton:



Between this post and the previous I wonder which is even lengthy since you claimed to have being in a hurry.
Thanks for rendering answers.
You have done well.

You certainly are mixing things-up in your hurry to accuse me of something.

Let em explain to oyu again and again
:

That first, very short and snappy post wherein l said your fellow contractor @tevanso does not need @tracypacy's Survey Plan (which contains a lot of personal details of the Client and should only be given out when absolutely necessary) was written on my way out.
it is just 5.5 lines of post. You can go back and count it yourself.
I did nto have the time to do the computation of the estimate at that time.


The next post l did a few hours ago, was done when l had more time and that was the ESTIMATION itself.
You can see that it was quite much more detailed and therefore longer.

The third post you are referring to was a response to your second defense of the possibly-fraudulent idea of not being able to do the Estimate without the Survey plan of the person who needed assistance. It was done just a few hours after the lenghty estimate, when l was still available as you can see.

I am sure it should be clear to you now.


I am sure everyone knows the idea behind requesting for such document from someone who needs just a little assistance that can be rendered without it, is to 'tie the customer down', get the document in one's possession for many other reasons, e.t.c
I know some here who have this kind of habit and they use the Architectural drawings of such people, to do a job for others, for a fee.

Thank you and please dont support what you know is wrong.
A good name is better than illicit riches. Spyder, Aventures, Abdulwastcx and many others here, are good examples.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Timtol(m): 2:00am On Oct 05, 2018
....hmmm it is well oo
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by joycluv: 3:49am On Oct 05, 2018
Plz what about dis step down/sunken living rooms in houses? Is it advantageous or is it just for fancy? My builder wants to put dat for me but I don't know much about it.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by igwedehxy: 6:55am On Oct 05, 2018
Kaybthaniels:
Apart from concrete interlocking & stamped concrete flooring for a compound or driveway, which other flooring or alternatives can one go for that is presentable & less expensive?

Does anyone have any idea(s)?

You can just pour gravel on the floor. If u eventually change ur mind to use another type of floor, you can still use the gravel. I hope it helps
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by marylandcakes: 7:11am On Oct 05, 2018
Good morning experts in the house

Is there anyone here that have used the services of class coat paints here on Nairaland?

Thanks in advance
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rubbiish(m): 8:13am On Oct 05, 2018
joycluv:
Plz what about dis step down/sunken living rooms in houses? Is it advantageous or is it just for fancy? My builder wants to put dat for me but I don't know much about it.
To me it is just for fancy...

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