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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by philfearon(m): 11:18am On Oct 08, 2018
Even Mourinho that Velverde is compared to will not start goal draught Suarez in his game. He will even likely send him to the reserve teams(Probably our B-team)...

It's not just that Suarez is Now typically useless as a striker, it's the fact that every nice attack that is passed to him has 99% of being spoiled by him...

I have been saying it, Coutinho Messi and Dembele should be our attack this season. Suarez is wasted and should be banned from playing football indefinitely...

That notwithstanding, what is it with Coutinho always indecisive in potential match winning shots or strike. Coutinho had a clear sitter, but somehow he was dispossessed despite being free...

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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by tesppidd: 12:10pm On Oct 08, 2018
philfearon:
Even Mourinho that Velverde is compared to will not start goal draught Suarez in his game. He will even likely send him to the reserve teams(Probably our B-team)...

It's not just that Suarez is Now typically useless as a striker, it's the fact that every nice attack that is passed to him has 99% of being spoiled by him...

I have been saying it, Coutinho Messi and Dembele should be our attack this season. Suarez is wasted and should be banned from playing football indefinitely...

That notwithstanding, what is it with Coutinho always indecisive in potential match winning shots or strike. Coutinho had a clear sitter, but somehow he was dispossessed despite being free...
Courinho probably had some bad luck there
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by tesppidd: 12:15pm On Oct 08, 2018
With the style of football we play, we will always be susceptible to counter attacks,

Especially from the bigger teams in europe.

There is very little we can do about it.


You cannot be a highly dominant and pressing team and expect not be be found out at the back once in a while.

With Pique and Umtiti joining in pressing at the half way line!


A proper plan B might be to get good nodders of the ball and go aereal.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by philfearon(m): 1:12pm On Oct 08, 2018
tesppidd:
Courinho probably had some bad luck there
I think same thing happened in the last match we drew.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by SerVik(m): 2:17pm On Oct 08, 2018
haymekus:



When did you start watching Barcelona's games or did you take something this night?
He has a point though.

Peps Barcelona was not exactly great defensively, we defended by starving the opponents of the ball. Pep had what was called the 6 seconds rule. Whenever we lose the ball, the player at fault in coordination with the players nearby are to win the ball back in the next 6 seconds. Only if they fail to win the ball after 6 seconds can they revert back to their normal team 'defensive' structure.
In the past 2games we have seen the same thing with this present team, pressing like mad immediately they lose the ball.
With the introduction of Arthur into the gala xi also, we have seen a marked improvement in our ability to retain possession.

Where the pep Barcelona edges us considerably are in these 3 areas.

1. Creativity: okay we press like mad when we lose the ball but what do we do when we get the ball? We find a player backward and pass the ball to him just for the sake of recycling possession. No incisive passes, very little defense splitting passes. Tactically, I think Arthur and coutinho are our biggest problems in this set up.
People keep saying coutinho's best position is as a winger but he is our most creative midfielder right now. He is the only player bar messi that drives the ball with quickness from midfield to attack. He also has eyes for those defense splitting passes.
Arthur is good but playing him together with rakitic leads to redundancy. Rakitic is our 'go to' man when we are recycling possession. He pops up when a player is been pressured, receives the ball and passes to a player under little or no pressure. This is what rakitic does and it is the same thing Arthur is presently doing. Playing both at the same time means while we might retain possession most of the times, it would be in positions where we can do very little damage. One of them needs to drop for a creative midfielder.
Arthur is just starting his Barcelona career so I do hope he picks up and improves in his creativity. He would be a big hit in our midfield if he can find spaces to thread passes to our attackers.

Steam: The 6 seconds rule required a lot of pressing. Quick plugging of gaps, athleticism, All of which expends energy. When guardiola became the boss, his first point of duty was to let go of some players like Deco, yaya, ronaldinho, etc for their younger variants. So in attack(at different points) we had the likes of pedro, sanchez, david villa, messi etc all with youthfulness and a lot of steam to burn, leading the press. In midfield we had players like xavi, iniesta, busquets, all in their 20s leading the press. This guys were young and full of energy(although it also did help that we were in possession of the ball for most of the times). So much was their energy that guardiola could afford to relieve messi of diffensive duty and conserve his energy for the final third, so much like hazard in sarri's Chelsea.

In contrast, valverde's barca has a 31yr old Lionel messi and a 31yr old Luis Suarez leading the press in the attack, a 30yr old busquets and a 30yr old Ivan rakitic leading the press in the midfield. What you get is a team that will press you in the first half then lose steam in the 2nd half, as we have seen in the past couple of games.

Over Reliance on messi: let's not get it twisted, any team that has messi would rely on him, it is the overreliance that becomes an issue. Pep's barca had plenty of goal scorers. Eto topped league goals in pep's first season, henry scored goals when he came, David villa could score goals, heck! pep played fabregas as a false 9 and the man left the pitch with the match ball. But as we have seen in this team, every attacking move begins or ends with messi.

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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by SerVik(m): 2:35pm On Oct 08, 2018
Olamyyde:
Flops of the match

1) suarez: this man is stealing a living at barca...aside from the assist to messi he was horrendous throughout the match. He and benzema are on the same level.

2) busquets: honestly one of the worst games I've seen from him...he was struggling to complete forward passes throughout the game

3) pique: This guy is finished...we should go all in for de ligt by January angry
Busquets played at least 3 positions yesterday. When we were building from the back we revert to a 343 formation. Busquets slots in between pique and vermaelen as the third CB, semedo and alba as side midfielders.

When we were on the defensive, busquets played as a DM, trying to block passing lanes and intercept passes.

When we were attacking, busquets played as a CM/AM.

Give the man some credit.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Nobody: 2:39pm On Oct 08, 2018
We have a dullard as coach...simples.

If we win anything this season, the players made it happen and not the clueless coach.

Ffs...we were pressing Valencia well but we couldn't really penetrate, a sensible coach would have brought on an attacker who could draw fouls. The mumu coach was lowkey happy with the draw.

I admired the Valencia coach...even if his plan was to secure a draw, he did it with confidence and style. Barking out instructions, had nice team setup.

Velverde is no coach to take care of barca as a manager.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by BykeLaByke: 3:21pm On Oct 08, 2018
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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by MJBOLT: 3:53pm On Oct 08, 2018
EV will repeat the mistake he made against roma in the later stages of the UCL
BykeLaByke:
lipsrsealed undecided undecided lipsrsealed
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Isomerizm(m): 3:53pm On Oct 08, 2018
"I left the changes for the end because I did not see it clearly," he said.
"I thought that we could resolve the situation with the players we had on the pitch."

Ernesto Valvershit. grin

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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by dmcdad: 3:55pm On Oct 08, 2018
Claireshan1:
I just want to say something Barcelona should look for one B division club and bundle that Suarez of a guy there

cheesycheesycheesy
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by dmcdad: 4:00pm On Oct 08, 2018
tesppidd:
That's what I mean.
Suarez is the problem.

As for everything else it's still same old same old

Teams park the bus

When lowly teams park the bus it's not to hard to break them with patience

But when the bigger teams like valencia do,

What do we do?


Everybody talks about some plan b, plan b, plan b,

For 5 plus years now.


Someone should suggest what that plan b could be;

When Suarez is shitttty.
This is just why I really miss Neymar. Yeah, he is gone and never coming back, but cases like this just remind you of what he brought to the team when he was here. Now, if Messi switches off, then it's over.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by dmcdad: 4:04pm On Oct 08, 2018
jpmoriarti:
I think we played well yesterday aside from the early sleep when Valencia capitalized and scored. We dominated them in the midfield and attack. There only feasible route was to counter. shocked shocked We need to score more goals and defend counters better. Semedo was really impressive. He's taking the opportunity Roberto's injury afforded him and his shining. He's way better than Roberto in defence anyways. And he attempted some forward forays yesterday that could have paid off more if we didnt have Suarez upfront, obstructing all the attacks.
I streamed the match to a point where I had to exit it because of Suárez's foolishness. Gawd!!! I never knew someone could be as stupid as Suárez he presently.

I'd say he is on par with Bakayoko. Yeah, that's how bad or worse he is now.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by dmcdad: 4:06pm On Oct 08, 2018
philfearon:
Even Mourinho that Velverde is compared to will not start goal draught Suarez in his game. He will even likely send him to the reserve teams(Probably our B-team)...

It's not just that Suarez is Now typically useless as a striker, it's the fact that every nice attack that is passed to him has 99% of being spoiled by him...

I have been saying it, Coutinho Messi and Dembele should be our attack this season. Suarez is wasted and should be banned from playing football indefinitely...

That notwithstanding, what is it with Coutinho always indecisive in potential match winning shots or strike. Coutinho had a clear sitter, but somehow he was dispossessed despite being free...
cheesycheesycheesy
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by dmcdad: 4:11pm On Oct 08, 2018
BykeLaByke:
lipsrsealed undecided undecided lipsrsealed
Are you surprised? Finally, I've seen someone that Tata Martino is better than in terms of making subs. Gosh!
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by dmcdad: 4:13pm On Oct 08, 2018
Isomerizm:
"I left the changes for the end because I did not see it clearly," he said.
"I thought that we could resolve the situation with the players we had on the pitch."

Ernesto Valvershit. grin

Tomorrow jpmoriarti will tell me what we have is not average. Abeg, I no wan vex.

Saying EV is average is giving him too much credit than he deserves.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by philfearon(m): 4:19pm On Oct 08, 2018
dmcdad:

cheesycheesycheesy
That man matter dey tire me... It's not just that he doesn't score, he also goes on to try his best to always spoil a promising attack.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by yorhmienerd(m): 5:12pm On Oct 08, 2018

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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by tesppidd: 5:19pm On Oct 08, 2018
dmcdad:

This is just why I really miss Neymar. Yeah, he is gone and never coming back, but cases like this just remind you of what he brought to the team when he was here. Now, if Messi switches off, then it's over.
over over over
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jpmoriarti(m): 5:20pm On Oct 08, 2018
dmcdad:

Tomorrow jpmoriarti will tell me what we have is not average. Abeg, I no wan vex.

Saying EV is average is giving him too much credit than he deserves.
It is not enough to say we have an average coach, who can be an upgrade right now? Kindly suggest tongue
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by BykeLaByke: 5:45pm On Oct 08, 2018
My #EnriqueOut agenda drained me FFS.


Now I don't even have the strength to start complaining about another coach sef. angry angry

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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Afobear: 6:32pm On Oct 08, 2018
Enrique better pass this shit 100 times
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by dmcdad: 6:49pm On Oct 08, 2018
jpmoriarti:
It is not enough to say we have an average coach, who can be an upgrade right now? Kindly suggest tongue
Bro... Its enough to state that we have an average coach. Remember, the first step to solving a problem is knowing there is a problem in the first place.tongue
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by dmcdad: 6:51pm On Oct 08, 2018
philfearon:

That man matter dey tire me... It's not just that he doesn't score, he also goes on to try his best to always spoil a promising attack.
I literally stopped my live stream during the first half after Suárez had halted every attacking opportunity we had bar the goal. Guy, I exit the nonsense start to dey watch movies jare.cheesy
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Claireshan1(f): 9:14pm On Oct 08, 2018
dmcdad:

cheesycheesycheesy
look who is here
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by dmcdad: 9:45pm On Oct 08, 2018
Claireshan1:
look who is here
Someone you forgot about, right?
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by MJBOLT: 9:49pm On Oct 08, 2018
barça players nominated for Ballon D'or 2018

Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by tesppidd: 6:45am On Oct 09, 2018
Barca Vs Sevilla
Barca Vs Inter
Barca Vs Madrid

All within 8 days.

shocked
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by MJBOLT: 7:36am On Oct 09, 2018
sevilla and inter are in crazy form

tesppidd:
Barca Vs Sevilla
Barca Vs Inter
Barca Vs Madrid

All within 8 days.

shocked
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jonsnow92: 9:00am On Oct 09, 2018
Suarez's last played brilliantly for us in the 2015-16, he's been so shiity ever since, however EV is in a self inflicted quandary because he let alcacer go and doesn't trust Munir's ability starting up front for a club like Barca so he has to stick with Suarez. Also i can excuse the lethargy against Valencia, they landed 5am Thursday morning in barcelona, didn't train till friday and then had to travel on Saturday so it can be understandable.

As for Plan B, there really is no plan b, the only thing is for other players to step up and start scoring goals too.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by LethargiQue: 12:07pm On Oct 09, 2018
Leading bundesliga goal chart.. hasn't played up to 90 mins

Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by losprince(m): 4:52pm On Oct 09, 2018
that valencia match was not good and on par with what i would have loved, yes we held posession and passed the ball around yet whenever we got to the opposition half we pass the ball backwards... nobody dribbles or try to create chances, we just kept on tiki...ing taka...ing the whole 90 mins.


packing of Bus shouldn't be an excuse for you not to force attack.

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