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fallout87:
This is just foolish talk.

SW won't vote PDP because they have no one from SW representing them!

GEJ had two PDP SW Govenors, Senators, Chief of Staff and a major success as Agriculture minister and he still lost SW by over 600,000 votes.

Atiku has none of the above and has alienated SW against himself. It was just a stupid move and only people obsessed with supporting their tribe over the nations progress don't see it that way.

This means Atiku loses because there is no sincere route to victory. If Atiku loses we all lose because four more years of Buhari will finish Nigeria.

""600,000 votes""

Thats a good loss because it is a small amount of votes to lose in an APC stronghold.

4 Million Votes from SE n SS will wipe that out.

SW will never get PDP VP ticket, U people cant eat ur cake and have it back, Its impossible in politics.

SE is PDP stronghold n thus PDP will have to consolidate power by giving VP to their region of strength, Not in SW where he will still lose nonetheless

ashacot:
Thank you Jesus. Congratulations to Buhari.

why? FOR LOOSING THE ELECTION OR WHAT?

masinga07:
Am from the west but honestly i would have been surprised if Atiku had pick his VP candidate from SW. He has done what is right and i can assure the Easterners that in this battle, You will never walk alone. Atiku/Obi ticket is not to redeem the east alone but Nigeria. East deserves this more than the West because if not for the SE/SS there wont be any PDP again in the first place.

Bro, please manage these 1million likes..

(likes) 1,000,000

EternalTruths:
You are still learning politics and have not learnt it well.

NC, NE, SE and SS are for Atiku.

Non Indigenes of SW / NW are for Atiku.

Shias of SW / NW are for Atiku.

NW indigenes who wants power to stay very long in the North, are for Atiku.


Buhari has lost.

Yeah, I've not learnt politics well enough. But trust me, you don't understand Nigerian politics up till now. The moment you said Non-indigenes, i understood your lack of depth knowledge of Nigerian politics. the votes of Non-indigenes can never be higher than indigenes, not even quarter up to.

Bornu, Bauchi, Gombe, from north East will give Buhari, he will lose Taraba. Go outside internet, make ground research you'll understand better.

The Yoruba's from SW no Matter what, have the highest population compared to Non-indigenes residing within their zone, they will give block votes for their son Osinbanjo, so APC wins SW. Or is it Obasanjo that couldn't even win his constituency during the re-election of Jonathan while Obasanjo was still a card carrying member. Is it now you expect him to deliver Ogun or Abeokuta to Atiku? NEVER!

Katsina, Kaduna, Jigawa, Sokoto, Kano and Zamfara are core APC states. it will be a tough one for Atiku. And remember the core Northerners loyalty to "Sai Baba". Atiku is not well known among the masses there. Kwankwaso is far much known than Atiku.

In North Central, Atiku may Not even Win Benue where i reside currently because Benue is an APC state and for the fact that the current Governor decamped to PDP has worsen it, because nobody likes Ortom here and for him joining PDP, it is a NO NO for PDP here. Nassarawa will not vote Atiku, Kogi won't give Atiku complete votes, Abuja won't give him complete votes.

In South-South, Edo state will give Buhari block votes, Rivers will split, Akwa ibom will split, Delta will split. PDP can't get complete votes from there. They may win but not with a large Margin.

South East will definitely give him the Votes. But he can't win with South east alone.

That's how you break it down. You check State by State.. Only Kwankwaso would have dealt with Buhari in the north. Because he is much known the same way Buhari is known. But Atiku can't do him anything. So, Mr Learned Politician, Who has a more difficult situation to deal with? I don't argue politics because i come from a Zone. Buhari failed but do we have a choice? Atiku will spend Billions but... Winning? it may be difficult.

PrecisionFx:
SS May split?

Oga relax abeg

EDO STATE, Will give Buhari block votes. AKWA IBOM will split. RIVERS will split. As a matter of fact, when last have you taken a critical look at Rivers? you think the people Love Wike? NEVER!! They don't like PDP. Do the checks and see. DELTA will have a fair share for APC. Except for Bayelsa and probably Cross River.

igbobuigbo:
APC can only rig in NW. They have no power in SE, SS, and some other parts of Nigeria.

OK boss.

But we have people like Rotimi Amaechi, Akpabio, Uduaghan, Oji kalu, Ken Nnamani, Ogbonaya Onu, Pius Anyim, Ngige, etc, etc, all flexing muzzle for APC in the SS, SE.

Aren't they loose ants that poses danger to your claim?

Don't forget Oshiomole is a south-southerner and will do more in south-south than he has done at Ekiti and Osun.

totit:


Oh I see!
We can now totally agree that we have another Fulani master and Fulani slave...Obi

Nice combo ...and OP point of correction those are not Nigerians,not people from the zoo but IBO's. ..abeg o

Mtcheww

So Igbo's are from Ghana right? Let the tribal sentiment fall from ur eyes for once.

benuejosh:
EDO STATE, Will give Buhari block votes. AKWA IBOM will split. RIVERS will split. As a matter of fact, when last have you taken a critical look at Rivers? you think the people Love Wike? NEVER!! They don't like PDP. Do the checks and see. DELTA will have a fair share for APC. Except for Bayelsa and probably Cross River.

U are blatantly wasting ur time and ur talking absolute nonsense.

No state in the SS will give Buhari block votes. Don't sit in far away Oshogbo n tell us what's happening here.

eodavids:
OK boss.

But we have people like Rotimi Amaechi, Akpabio, Uduaghan, Oji kalu, Ken Nnamani, Ogbonaya Onu, Pius Anyim, Ngige, etc, etc, all flexing muzzle for APC in the SS, SE.

Aren't they loose ants that poses danger to your claim?

Don't forget Oshiomole is a south-southerner and will do more in south-south than he has done at Ekiti and Osun.

All these names u listed are useless in the SE n SS, especially the igbos u mentioned. They all have 1 vote and do not command respect in the SE.

Buhari is massively losing these 2 regions in 2019.

PrecisionFx:
U are blatantly wasting ur time and ur talking absolute nonsense.

No state in the SS will give Buhari block votes. Don't sit in far away Oshogbo n tell us what's happening here.

No state? You lie. This is Nigeria. Adams is from Edo, Edo is a SS state and they have a sitting governor who is an APC governors. the National chairman will definitely want to deliver his state. Akbapio will deliver his senatorial district, Okowa will bring his Senatorial district. Rivers guys don't like Wike (do your research) so the votes there will split. This is Nigeria anything is possible.

Thank you!

nokatakata:
there's no point for anybody stepping down for the other. let people vote who they want. its just funny how these ipods see everything from the point view of hatred. it's clear and evident from their senile behaviour. they always put all their heads in one direction like a flock of sheep.

In 2015 they didn't vote Buhari because of hatred. All of them supported Jonathan and when he lost, they blamed the yorubas as if Jonathan did not get votes from SW. They didn't care about osibanjo getting support of the yorubas in 2015. they just had to blame yorubas as usual. Now Atiku chose Peter Obi as running mate and we nor gree hear word again. They have not even started campaign for elections and they have started their usual bitter politics of hate. that's how they will use their bitterness and badluck to make Atiku lose and then come back to blame yorubas.

so the SW should ignore their osibanjo and come support your peter obi as if you supported Osibanjo in 2015. All of a sudden, they love the abok.i atiku and won't talk about islamisation or biafra.ud again.
If Buhari wins 2019 election now, they'll now go back to shouting islamisation and biafra.ud. how then do they expect anybody to take them serious?

Instead of trying to gather support for their brother, they are spreading hatred all around and will eventually use it to ruin Atiku's chances.

True to the bolded. But trust our Igbo brothers to do Atiku in by blaming and insulting the Yorubas for everything that has befallen them under the sun; and the battle becomes a tribal affair.

Just one day after Obi is picked and there’s so much hatred being spewed. They have quickly turned it tribal yet they use every opportunity to label others as the most tribal in Nigeria.

ifiokjohn:
Bros that election was testing the waters. I have spoken to few yorubas and thex are ready to vote buhari out..
If you follow the way election has been done since you will know pdp will get 40 percent in the west.

Abi did the west not give jonathan 45 percent in 2015?
Was osinbanjo not their brother, why not 90 percent just as the east gave jonathn?

benuejosh:
No state? You lie. This is Nigeria. Adams is from Edo, Edo is a SS state and they have a sitting governor who is an APC governors. the National chairman will definitely want to deliver his state. Akbapio will deliver his senatorial district, Okowa will bring his Senatorial district. Rivers guys don't like Wike (do your research) so the votes there will split. This is Nigeria anything is possible.

"" Okowa will bring his Senatorial district. ""

which okowa are u talking about?

"" This is Nigeria. Adams is from Edo, Edo is a SS state and they have a sitting governor who is an APC governors ""

Wen Oshomiole was a sitting governor in Edo state, Did APC win Edo

"" Akbapio will deliver his senatorial district, ""

Deliver his senatorial district how? by forcing 400k akwaibomites to vote buhari?? Are u even listening to ur self?

"" Rivers guys don't like Wike ""

Joke of the century.

PrecisionFx:
"" Okowa will bring his Senatorial district. ""

which okowa are u talking about?

"" This is Nigeria. Adams is from Edo, Edo is a SS state and they have a sitting governor who is an APC governors ""

Wen Oshomiole was a sitting governor in Edo state, Did APC win Edo

"" Akbapio will deliver his senatorial district, ""

Deliver his senatorial district how? by forcing 400k akwaibomites to vote buhari?? Are u even listening to ur self?

"" Rivers guys don't like Wike ""

Joke of the century.

Hahahaha.. You're still learning the Nigerian Politics. And hope you still know the mean of "Split Votes". Biko stop bringing my thinking backwards. moreover i have no interest in both Parties, and i am simply stating the obvious. have a nice day.

ifiokjohn:
atiku will win 40/45 percent votes of southwest( check 2015).

40 percent of north east votes.
25/30 percent of northwest votes.
60 percent north centra votes.
95 percent south east votes.
And 85 percent south south votes, so tell me how cam the dullard win again?

This was arrived from imagination or how you think but not from reality right? Where is the incumbency factor,incumbency is a big deal whether in America that we model our democracy after or all over the world. The thing is, it is going to be a tight contest incumbency will tilt victory to APC. If Buhari is rejected overwhelming thats when PDP can think of Victory but in this situation Buhari still commands intense support even though it wasnt as it used to be. PDP will have to work very very hard to win ( if that is possible).

But you just buttressed my assertions

So can you name similar people of the Igbo extraction?

Also is it a mere coincidence that most effective freedom fighters come from the SW?

franchasng:
Yes bra, the people you mentioned are exemplery Yoruba elites with God given wisdom to think straight, but unfortunately, majority of Yoruba population don't think like them.

There are more wonderful and sane-thinking Yorubas of our time, and they are:

Bishop Oyedepo
Femi Fani Kayode despite what u guys say about him....he is honest and fearless
Fayose too
Osinbajo to an extend is a nice man just associating with devils helplessly


and many more I can't name here....but majority of Yorubas are nothing to write home about when it comes to Nigerian national politics

9gerian:
But you just buttressed my assertions

So can you name similar people of the Igbo extraction?

Also is it a mere coincidence that most effective freedom fighters come from the SW?

Yes, we Igbos are so classy, refined and enlightened....we don't argue baselessly or deny facts and truth to spite others like most Yorubas do....that was why I admitted and showed total respect for those Yoruba people you mentioned and even added more honorable Yoruba names.

But for you Yoruba agberos following the drug kingpin Tinubu, you can never admit truth even when its staring on your agbero face

internetpo:
So Igbo's are from Ghana right? Let the tribal sentiment fall from ur eyes for once.

Abeg shift make I see front jor. It's now you want to claim nigeria, isn't nigeria a ZOO again


Comot for my face my I see front jor

north east vs north west south south - south east - south west north central-
and you think the whole of south west thats a lie

Even your statement here negates the class that you are trying so hard to portray...

The argument is simple and straightforward enough so that presentation of facts are sufficient:

Are Yorubas as tribally oriented as Igbos?

The answer is no. And the facts are there for all to see.

However, igbos tend to without facts cast unfounded aspersions on Yorubas.

You say they are cowards, but Yorubas fight their battles head on (without soliciting or blaming others): NAdeco vs Abacha

Awolowo, Abiola, Gani and others all refused an easy GET OUT OF PRISON OFFER but OJUKWU, Nnamdi Kanu took the first flight to avoid danger, after urging their followers to pay the supreme price (death) for what they made them to believe in. How classy and brave for people who like to call others cowards.

You say they (yorubas) are tribal but they fight for the right of other tribes the same way they fight for theirs. In fact a lot of people look to them for help. And the Yorubas don’t even boast about it: GEJ presidency, resource control advocacy etc.

History is replete with several accounts about how the igbos severally aligned with the North to form government, (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_Nigeria) and the Yorubas never castigated the igbos for their choice; but tables turned in 2015, and the Yorubas align with the North, and alas! nobody can rest because the igbos lost out. The relevant question here is; where is the much chanted and universaly acclaimed “spirit of sportsmanship, and do the igbos possess it?”

Overnight their freedom fighters became more vibrant but only for their own selfish course as usual, and with the spice of denigrating other tribes while at it.

I could go on about the major problems of how restructuring became relevant only because an Igbo General Agunyi Ironsi changed the regional system in Nigeria to a unitary one howbeit for a selfish purpose.

Or how the 1st coup targeted all regional leaders but let the igbo leaders go free.

I hope you have now seen enough case studies about igbos to understand where the chief tribal bigots are prevalent. This is not to say other regions did not make their own mistakes; it just debunks your attempt to portray your tribe as being above board.

And to the case of BAT being a leader with major followership in Yoruba land... BAT paid his dues as a freedom fighter (nadeco) so whatever support he is enjoying now could have boomeranged on him like it did for others who got assassinated at the time. If he is now overbloated because of the seeming success recorded then it’s just a matter of time before he loses relevance.

Again the question is where are your own leaders, and do they fight for the people or make the people fight and die for them?

franchasng:
Yes, we Igbos are so classy, refined and enlightened....we don't argue baselessly or deny facts and truth to spite others like most Yorubas do....that was why I admitted and showed total respect for those Yoruba people you mentioned and even added more honorable Yoruba names.

But for you Yoruba agberos following the drug kingpin Tinubu, you can never admit truth even when its staring on your agbero face

Naajjii:
This was arrived from imagination or how you think but not from reality right? Where is the incumbency factor,incumbency is a big deal whether in America that we model our democracy after or all over the world. The thing is, it is going to be a tight contest incumbency will tilt victory to APC. If Buhari is rejected overwhelming thats when PDP can think of Victory but in this situation Buhari still commands intense support even though it wasnt as it used to be. PDP will have to work very very hard to win ( if that is possible).

Jonathan had incumbency but lost. you go see na, e go shock una, even for north whete buhari de bank on you go see say many go vote pdp.

it is money for money
Rigging for Rigging
The pdp know they have all to lose if buhari win and atiku knows that to so he will fight tooth and nail. Just watch! Lol!!

9gerian:
True to the bolded. But trust our Igbo brothers to do Atiku in by blaming and insulting the Yorubas for everything that has befallen them under the sun; and the battle becomes a tribal affair.

Just one day after Obi is picked and there’s so much hatred being spewed. They have quickly turned it tribal yet they use every opportunity to label others as the most tribal in Nigeria.

Guy the yorubas started it first, m akwa ibom, but i kid you not, it was started by the yorubas of this forum.
how can you eat where you never sow? the igbos stood with pdp during there downturn, they supported the pdp and now they can only be compensated with a VP position and the presidency in 2023 or 2027.. The yorubas want that VP position just to spite the east, they want it just to tell the east that they are a 5 percent and can't get anything...

See bros, even if pdp choose a yoruba pdp the yorubas will still give buhari majority votes, and if they give to the east, pdp will still get at the least 35/40 percent votes from the west ( check 2015 even with jonathan incompetence ).

MY guy atiku did the right thing and i know educated yorubas and does uneducated ones who are tired of buhari misrule will vote him out. We just need 40/45 percent from the west and buhari is gone.

ifiokjohn:
Jonathan had incumbency but lost. you go see na, e go shock una, even for north whete buhari de bank on you go see say many go vote pdp.

it is money for money
Rigging for Rigging
The pdp know they have all to lose if buhari win and atiku knows that to so he will fight tooth and nail. Just watch! Lol!!

The only reason Jonathan couldnt use incumbency was the intense pressure from Obama and the western countries. They were so interested in Nigeria election upto when results were collated. Probably because Obama got african root . Trump doesn't care about Africans. When we are seeing worst elections in Zimbabwe, Cameroon and other African countries and nothing happen. Keep having high hopes but reality will soon hit you. Same realities from Ekiti and Osun, better lower your hope than this high expectation to be on the safe side.

Naajjii:
The only reason Jonathan couldnt use incumbency was the intense pressure from Obama and the western countries. They were so interested in Nigeria election upto when results were collated. Probably because Obama got african root . Trump doesn't care about Africans. When we are seeing worst elections in Zimbabwe, Cameroon and other African countries and nothing happen. Keep having high hopes but reality will soon hit you. Same realities from Ekiti and Osun, better keep lower your hope than this high expectation to be on the safe side.

Osun and ekiti is our yardstick for knowing the pdp will make at least 45 percent in the west.

Apart from trust others western countries has interest in it, same with african countries so what are u saying?.

IT IS U REALITIES will hit and before you know it buhari will be in daura...

I have said my own, atiku is get 40 percent in the west.
60 percent or more in the north central.
Are you more knowledgeable than apc who are fighting for the south votes? that because they know they have lost the north central votes, That why they need the south south..

ifiokjohn:
Osun and ekiti is our yardstick for knowing the pdp will make at least 45 percent in the west.

Apart from trust others western countries has interest in it, same with african countries so what are u saying?.

IT IS U REALITIES will hit and before you know it buhari will be in daura...

I have said my own, atiku is get 40 percent in the west.
60 percent or more in the north central.
Are you more knowledgeable than apc who are fighting for the south votes? that because they know they have lost the north central votes, That why they need the south south..

The only way you can defeat Incumbency is when there is an overwhelming vote against the candidate like 70 percent of the people say no more,both north south east and west .But the situation on ground is 50 50. A lot of people still love Buhari as much as others hate him. The way people from the East hate Buhari that's how people in north likes him. With incumbency he will just do one or two adjustments that is. The fact that Atiku has a corrupt toga hanging doesn't help .

tayebest:
Now that the igbos have something to hold on to rather than the dead on arrival Biafra.

Dem no con get PVC

This really made me laugh, naughty guy

Naajjii:
The only way you can defeat Incumbency is when there is an overwhelming vote against the candidate like 70 percent of the people say no more,both north south east and west .But the situation on ground is 50 50. A lot of people still love Buhari as much as others hate him. The way people from the East hate Buhari that's how people in north likes him. With incumbency he will just do one or two adjustments that is. The fact that Atiku has a corrupt toga hanging doesn't help .

lol...We go see na...Buhari must lose

Incoming PRESIDENT ATIKU ABUBAKAR. COMMANDER IN CHIEF OF THE ARM FORCES OF NIGERIA

mexbee1:
Bro take a queue from Osun and Ekiti Gov elections, many APC supporters are loyal to tinubu at state level but will cast their votes in favor of the PDP come 2019 However Tinubu has not outrighly supported Buhari due to the fact that he has tried severally to Hijack the party structure from tinubu and sideline others thats why APC Is in ruins at the moment if u stroll down memory lane you would remember there were 4 major parties that formed the APC, they are as follows ANPP, CPC, NPDP, and ACN which tinubu stood for check out today the Npdp are now RAPC #Things fall apart and the center cannot hold u need to do your research properly u would see that the west never gave buhari 70% vote and recent times with the gale of defections has shown that the votes in the west would be divided btw the two major parties.

continue encouraging yourself here. what you people don't know is not a talk talk issue in wrestling power from an incumbent parties in state level?


all these APC governor were all given a tasks. what happen in Osun and ekiti should even give you a clue. the only machinery to wrestle from this controlled APC states had been cut as PDP picked their candidates out of the incumbent candidacies region and you feel such election would be easy tasks?


go and check the record. no Yoruba will vote against their own as you people does for ojukwu. Atiku/obi Is an advantage to Buhari/osibanjo victory

Even I do not see the need for a Yoruba VP unless he is an heavyweight, and there is none in the SW at the moment.

So the choice of Peter Obi is a good one imo.

ifiokjohn:
Guy the yorubas started it first, m akwa ibom, but i kid you not, it was started by the yorubas of this forum.
how can you eat where you never sow? the igbos stood with pdp during there downturn, they supported the pdp and now they can only be compensated with a VP position and the presidency in 2023 or 2027.. The yorubas want that VP position just to spite the east, they want it just to tell the east that they are a 5 percent and can't get anything...

See bros, even if pdp choose a yoruba pdp the yorubas will still give buhari majority votes, and if they give to the east, pdp will still get at the least 35/40 percent votes from the west ( check 2015 even with jonathan incompetence ).

MY guy atiku did the right thing and i know educated yorubas and does uneducated ones who are tired of buhari misrule will vote him out. We just need 40/45 percent from the west and buhari is gone.

ifiokjohn:
Bros that election was testing the waters. I have spoken to few yorubas and thex are ready to vote buhari out..
If you follow the way election has been done since you will know pdp will get 40 percent in the west.

Abi did the west not give jonathan 45 percent in 2015?
Was osinbanjo not their brother, why not 90 percent just as the east gave jonathn?

hahaha you've spoken to few Yoruba and they're ready to vote Buhari out hahahaha journalist how many Yoruba do you ask


guy political talk is not your way go and find somewhere to sit

tesppidd:
besides pdp has no governor in the south west but have 3 governors in the south east.

going east for vp was a political blunder.

In 2015, the Southwest was apc dominated so buhari should have picked a VP from the south east based on your logic

Ategberoson:
hahaha you've spoken to few Yoruba and they're ready to vote Buhari out hahahaha journalist how many Yoruba do you ask


guy political talk is not your way go and find somewhere to sit

i have told you and you know it, the pdp will get 40 percent in the west