I don't understand something. Is the guy already working in Canada or still I'm Nigeria? If already working in Canada, he better stay there but if still in Nigeria, I'll suggest he stays back unless he has a good working visa to Canada.

MajorJeffery:
I don't understand something. Is the guy already working in Canada or still I'm Nigeria? If already working in Canada, he better stay there but if still in Nigeria, I'll suggest he stays back unless he has a good working visa to Canada.

the guy is in Nigeria has a pr

Jabo1000:
Even if Dangote seek advice here to stay in Nigeria or travel to USA/Canada. Some people will still say Canada/USA lol.
A person earning 7m per annum with his salary, he can ventures into other business that generate extra income.

Bro everything is not just all about money money money. I will prefer to base in a sane country and have peace of mind than stay in a country where my life and that of my family are in danger.

Think about the sane environment country like Canada will offer you. Think about the life of Op children which supersede money.

As far as he is with his permanent resident visa, he needs no soothe sayer to tell him to stay back in Nigeria. Couple with the fact that he will also get his citizenship in five years time after arrival, is enough reason to make such move.

MajorJeffery:
I don't understand something. Is the guy already working in Canada or still I'm Nigeria? If already working in Canada, he better stay there but if still in Nigeria, I'll suggest he stays back unless he has a good working visa to Canada.

He already got his permanent resident visa meaning he he has already spent money securing the visa.

It is not just ordinary visa cuz as a permanent resident, him and his family will enjoy the same benefits Canada citizens enjoyed.

Canada PR is a treasure bro. Many have been looking for it.

Mcslize:


He already got his permanent resident visa meaning he he has already spent money securing the visa.

It is not just ordinary visa cuz as a permanent resident, him and his family will enjoy the same benefits Canada citizens enjoyed.

Canada PR is a treasure bro. Many have been looking for it.

If he already has a permanent residency, then he should board the earliest flight asap.

Wait a minute, what do you mean by permanent resident visa?

Mcslize:


Bro everything is not just all about money money money. I will prefer to base in a sane country and have peace of mind than stay in a country where my life and that of my family are in danger.

Think about the sane environment country like Canada will offer you. Think about the life of Op children which supersede money.

As far as he is with his permanent resident visa, he needs no soothe sayer to tell him to stay back in Nigeria. Couple with the fact that he will also get his citizenship in five years time after arrival, is enough reason to make such move.

You don’t know why he want to move so don’t say not about money, Not everybody can cope living in that environment. it’s not all about big buildings, smooth roads, being happy too is important so should only speak for yourself.

MajorJeffery:
If he already has a permanent residency, then he should board the earliest flight asap.

Wait a minute, what do you mean by permanent resident visa?

A permanent resident (permanent resident) is the name given to a non-citizen who is the holder of a permanent visa, thus the name permanent resident visa. It can likewise be called permanent residency visa. I hope you now get it.

Jabo1000:

You don’t know why he want to move so don’t say not about money, Not everybody can cope living in that environment. it’s not all about big buildings, smooth roads, being happy too is important so should only speak for yourself.

Nigeria is messed up big time. No amount of money will give peace of mind here. If you've ever travelled out , you will shed tears for Nigeria and asked if Nigeria has been cursed.

Mcslize:


Nigeria is messed up big time. No amount of money will give peace of mind here. If you've ever travelled out , you will shed tears for Nigeria and asked if Nigeria has been cursed.

I have traveled many places and I never shed any tears. when I was schooling abroad I had many people from different countries some even worse than Nigeria after their studies they never stayed back, they returned back to practice what they learnt. when I first arrived it was like big thing to me but later on I see every thing not been about big buildings, smooth roads but about happinesss.

Jabo1000:

You don’t know why he want to move so don’t say not about money, Not everybody can cope living in that environment. it’s not all about big buildings, smooth roads, being happy too is important so should only speak for yourself.

While we do not know why he wants to move but one thing that is certain is that as a PR if he takes the right steps he would make more money in Canada than he is currently making. In fact, if he is not living fake life, not trying to impress the people in Nigeria and not spending on what he can not afford but only spending to live same or a little above the quality of life 7M Naira would afford him in Nigeria I can assure you that provided he is a permanent resident (not an illegal resident) he would save more money (after expenses) in Canada than he would save in Nigeria.

So once again, if it is all about money (not even factoring the other goodies) he would be better off in Canada than in Nigeria based on his current income level of just 7M Naira per annum.

When it come to being happy, it is very subjective. What makes people happy varies from individual to individual. Money make some people happy while it may not make another person happy. For some people it is being close to their extended family in Nigeria that make them happy (no matter the amount of money they can make outside of Nigeria, this type of people will always stay put in Nigeria) while for some of us we what will make us happy is to go after the money and visit extended family once in a while rather than staying back in Nigeria. So, as you can see the definition of being happy varies from individual to individual.

Jabo1000:

I have traveled many places and I never shed any tears. when I was schooling abroad I had many people from different countries some even worse than Nigeria after their studies they never stayed back, they returned back to practice what they learnt. when I first arrived it was like big thing to me but later on I see every thing not been about big buildings, smooth roads but about happinesss.

It all depends on what you what from life. But to me, Nigeria can't offer the peace of mind and happiness I need in life. I don't know of others.

aworldcitizen:
Lol, 7m is small money if you are in Lagos with kids.

You will be living an average life and won't be able to go on vacation, ride brand new car, stay in nice beautiful serviced estates. Your kids will attend average school.

Someone earning minimum wage in Canada can afford all the listed above.

My brother aabeg move to Canada for your kids.

you got that right

what is there to life if you cannot take annual vacations with your family without destroying your finances?

or many many other pleasures of life

Mcslize:


Nigeria is messed up big time. No amount of money will give peace of mind here. If you've ever travelled out , you will shed tears for Nigeria and asked if Nigeria has been cursed.

yes

Mcslize:


It all depends on what you what from life. But to me, Nigeria can't offer the peace of mind and happiness I need in life. I don't know of others.

same with me

that's why I had to leave


it's a sick society

Nothing being worse than being a Nigerian with Naija mentality, Nigerians talk ill about their country whereas there are other countries worse than Nigeria but because their citizens cherish their country and wants to do anything to make the society a sane one and improve their standard of living make a difference. I’m outside the country also but my mind is made up after few years of working here, I’m going back to Nigeria to give back to the society, establish a business, it might not survive at first but with determination I hope it will be a success, that’s how it supposed to be but our Naija mentality is about desperation of making it big within short period of time and leaving the country for good. Hadn’t been the citizens of those countries we re moving to were also migrating and not coming back to add value to their communities, there won’t be anywhere to visit. Let’s change our mentality, you can always make a difference. With faith and determination, you can move mountains.

Taofeekdboy:
Nothing being worse than being a Nigerian with Naija mentality, Nigerians talk ill about their country whereas there are other countries worse than Nigeria but because their citizens cherish their country and wants to do anything to make the society a sane one and improve their standard of living make a difference. I’m outside the country also but my mind is made up after few years of working here, I’m going back to Nigeria to give back to the society, establish a business, it might not survive at first but with determination I hope it will be a success, that’s how it supposed to be but our Naija mentality is about desperation of making it big within short period of time and leaving the country for good. Hadn’t been the citizens of those countries we re moving to were also migrating and not coming back to add value to their communities, there won’t be anywhere to visit. Let’s change our mentality, you can always make a difference. With faith and determination, you can move mountains.

My question is, Why did you leave Nigeria... With your sense of jingoism, you shouldn't have left Nigeria at all. Nobody ever said they wouldn't come back to Nigeria but how can we make it in Nigeria. The OP is one his 10,000 mates that earn 7million naira in a year... So please don't come here and teach us the spirit of patriotism when you are not.

Predstan:



My question is, Why did you leave Nigeria... With your sense of jingoism, you shouldn't have left Nigeria at all. Nobody ever said they wouldn't come back to Nigeria but how can we make it in Nigeria. The OP is one his 10,000 mates that earn 7million naira in a year... So please don't come here and teach us the spirit of patriotism when you are not.

The problem with Nigerians, criticical sense of judgement. Not all of us have the privilege of having capital to establish our ideas but when you are determined to make it happen, you source for capital and add value to yourself, then you can help your society. Most of us were born with no silver spoon and can’t make enough capital to start our various businesses but at the same time most prefer to be lazying around, be ranting, yelling at the government without making things happen. I left the country because I want to make things happen, gather enough money to start my business, not everyone is cool working for bosses, I want to be my own boss.

Taofeekdboy:
The problem with Nigerians, criticical sense of judgement. Not all of us have the privilege of having capital to establish our ideas but when you are determined to make it happen, you source for capital and add value to yourself, then you can help your society. Most of us were born with no silver spoon and can’t make enough capital to start our various businesses but at the same time most prefer to be lazying around, be ranting, yelling at the government without making things happen. I left the country because I want to make things happen, gather enough money to start my business, not everyone is cool working for bosses, I want to be my own boss.

That part is the very beast part of you. "Problems with Nigerians" you don't want to be criticised for anything because you are a chauvinist, you believe your opinion is always true because you are not in Nigeria hereby thinking you are better than the Nigerians in Nigeria...

I will repeat my statement "Don't come here to teach us the spirit of patriotism because you are not". The OP needs your opinion if traveling to Canada is better than the 7miliion he earns here in Nigeria. Instead of you to give us concrete explanation on how Nigeria is best for his future and that of his Family, you resort to verbiage, telling us how Nigeria Mentality is hunting us down.

PS: Your opinion does not always hold true and everyone cannot live their lives the way you are living yours...


Modified: I believe India is doing better than Nigeria but Indians are inundating the US everyday. They are also Migrating to Canada, Germany and others countries. What are you going to say about this, they have India mentality also?

Predstan:



That part is the very beast part of you. "Problems with Nigerians" you don't want to be criticised for anything because you are a chauvinist, you believe your opinion is always true because you are not in Nigeria hereby thinking you are better than the Nigerians in Nigeria...

I will repeat my statement "Don't come here to teach us the spirit of patriotism because you are not". The OP needs your opinion if traveling to Canada is better than the 7miliion he earns here in Nigeria. Instead of you to give us concrete explanation on how Nigeria is best for his future and that of his Family, you resort to verbiage, telling us how Nigeria Mentality is hunting us down.

PS: Your opinion does not always hold true and everyone cannot live their lives the way you are living yours...


Modified: I believe India is doing better than Nigeria but Indians are inundating the US everyday. They are also Migrating to Canada, Germany and others countries. What are you going to say about this, they have India mentality also?

I The problem with Nigerians, criticical sense of judgement. Not all of us have the privilege of having capital to establish our ideas but when you are determined to make it happen, you source for capital and add value to yourself, then you can help your society.ere is no better future for my kids other than working hard, showing them how to give back to the society. Talking about Indians and co, mostly Indians are economic migrants, they migrate to another country, establish their business, improve the economy of host countries but same can’t be said about Nigerians. Indians, Lebanese and Chinese are trooping in to Nigeria to establish their various businesses here, I know that Nigeria situation is not that good but few of those people that is making it outside the country are not helping the situation also, coming back home to lavish money on frivolities, showing off, not to give back to the community. We hate to hear the truth even people outside the country doing drugs, scams and all sort are not left out, they can help their communities, at least their people will know they doing bad thing in a right way i.e Pablo Escobar until he became a terrorist.

Taofeekdboy:
I The problem with Nigerians, criticical sense of judgement. Not all of us have the privilege of having capital to establish our ideas but when you are determined to make it happen, you source for capital and add value to yourself, then you can help your society.ere is no better future for my kids other than working hard, showing them how to give back to the society. Talking about Indians and co, mostly Indians are economic migrants, they migrate to another country, establish their business, improve the economy of host countries but same can’t be said about Nigerians. Indians, Lebanese and Chinese are trooping in to Nigeria to establish their various businesses here, I know that Nigeria situation is not that good but few of those people that is making it outside the country are not helping the situation also, coming back home to lavish money on frivolities, showing off, not to give back to the community. We hate to hear the truth even people outside the country doing drugs, scams and all sort are not left out, they can help their communities, at least their people will know they doing bad thing in a right way i.e Pablo Escobar until he became a terrorist.

Bro. The topic is not about Nigerians abroad coming back to Nigeria or contributing to Nigeria. You have not answered the OP's concern. You are only bringing up epistles that does not relate to the topic... Are you saying the OP should stay back or travel out of this country? I have not had any experience of being an immigrant but I want to learn from you and others and that does not make me inferior(Mentality) or less patriotic... That the OP wants to travel out of the country does not make him less patriotic...

Predstan:



Bro. The topic is not about Nigerians abroad coming back to Nigeria or contributing to Nigeria. You have not answered the OP's concern. You are only bringing up epistles that does not relate to the topic... Are you saying the OP should stay back or travel out of this country? I have not had any experience of being an immigrant but I want to learn from you and others and that does not make me inferior(Mentality) or less patriotic... That the OP wants to travel out of the country does not make him less patriotic...

With all what I said, you can make it out that I’m advising OP to stay back in the country and try to establish his own business, it might not work out at first but with determination and faith, things will fall in place. Most Nigerians have good ideas and innovative but don’t have the means to carry out things but as soon as the opportunity set in, we tend to forget all that. Nothing is small, OP should start from somewhere, we can all make it anywhere plus the amount of money he is earning can sustain another business on a long run.

Taofeekdboy:
I The problem with Nigerians, criticical sense of judgement. Not all of us have the privilege of having capital to establish our ideas but when you are determined to make it happen, you source for capital and add value to yourself, then you can help your society.ere is no better future for my kids other than working hard, showing them how to give back to the society. Talking about Indians and co, mostly Indians are economic migrants, they migrate to another country, establish their business, improve the economy of host countries but same can’t be said about Nigerians. Indians, Lebanese and Chinese are trooping in to Nigeria to establish their various businesses here, I know that Nigeria situation is not that good but few of those people that is making it outside the country are not helping the situation also, coming back home to lavish money on frivolities, showing off, not to give back to the community. We hate to hear the truth even people outside the country doing drugs, scams and all sort are not left out, they can help their communities, at least their people will know they doing bad thing in a right way i.e Pablo Escobar until he became a terrorist.

what is this one saying? ?

Taofeekdboy:
With all what I said, you can make it out that I’m advising OP to stay back in the country and try to establish his own business, it might not work out at first but with determination and faith, things will fall in place. Most Nigerians have good ideas and innovative but don’t have the means to carry out things but as soon as the opportunity set in, we tend to forget all that. Nothing is small, OP should start from somewhere, we can all make it anywhere plus the amount of money he is earning can sustain another business on a long run.

Now I can counter this... The world is not meant for business alone. I hope you know what career satisfaction is. Its not everyone of us that will establish a business for himself. Some of us just want to live comfortably and practice our profession. The Nigeria mentality is fighting you. An average Nigerian believes that Money is the root of happiness in Life so can you see this orientation has not erased from you.

To the OP. Weigh your Option. If you want to live comfortably and secure a future for your Kid to live their life, Migrate to Canada. But if you want to secure a future for your kid to live on your Opulence, you can remain here and invest in a business... But a 7million naira life in Nigeria cannot be compared to 50,000CAD life in Canada...

Ugosample:


what is this one saying? ?

Hey, I believe everyone is opinionated and this is uncalled for, so let’s respect each other opinions and talk like adults.

Predstan:



Now I can counter this... The world is not meant for business alone. I hope you know what career satisfaction is. Its not everyone of us that will establish a business for himself. Some of us just want to live comfortably and practice our profession. The Nigeria mentality is fighting you. An average Nigerian believes that Money is the root of happiness in Life so can you see this orientation has not erased from you.

To the OP. Weigh your Option. If you want to live comfortably and secure a future for your Kid to live their life, Migrate to Canada. But if you want to secure a future for your kid to live on your Opulence, you can remain here and invest in a business... But a 7million naira life in Nigeria cannot be compared to 50,000CAD life in Canada...

Not everyone is doctors, Engineers or professionals. You are talking about uncertainty in Canada and known fact in Nigeria. Someone is earning 500k plus in Nigeria, wants to migrate to Canada with uncertainty, there many factors at hand; what worked for A might not work for B, the Op might have to start from the beginning again. At times, the grass is not always greener at the other side. We look at bright side of things not bother to check the bad side. Well to the OP, he has the larger part to play out.

Taofeekdboy:
Not everyone is doctors, Engineers or professionals. You are talking about uncertainty in Canada and known fact in Nigeria. Someone is earning 500k plus in Nigeria, wants to migrate to Canada with uncertainty, there many factors at hand; what worked for A might not work for B, the Op might have to start from the beginning again. At times, the grass is not always greener at the other side. We look at bright side of things not bother to check the bad side. Well to the OP, he has the larger part to play out.

Bro. I didn't Generalize my opinion just as you did. I have given different Options. Going to Canada with PR route means you are not just educated but a professional. So there are opportunities for you because that's what they need them for in Canada. I don't want to bring up examples of people that I know and so close to me who traveled to Canada through this route but believe me 500k monthly is not the best pay in this Nigeria economy.

Taofeekdboy:
Hey, I believe everyone is opinionated and this is uncalled for, so let’s respect each other opinions and talk like adults.

I asked a question

Predstan:



Bro. I didn't Generalize my opinion just as you did. I have given different Options. Going to Canada with PR route means you are not just educated but a professional. So there are opportunities for you because that's what they need them for in Canada. I don't want to bring up examples of people that I know and so close to me who traveled to Canada through this route but believe me 500k monthly is not the best pay in this Nigeria economy.

Did you just say 500k monthly is not good or the best pay. Different strokes for different people, when some people are wishing to earn half of that. The main point is how we plan our life with the amount we re earning. Some people are earning less and have the basic needs of life because they planned their life accordingly, I am not against traveling out for greener pastures or betterment of thyself but if you are doing perfectly fine in your country, why leaving for the uncertainty. Like I said everyone is opinionated, who am I to tell OP to stay back.

Jabo1000:
Why would somebody want to go inside cold when he’s living comfortably in Nigeria.
7m per year is more than 500k monthly that’s like earning cad $150k per annum in Canada taking consideration of cost of living and tax.

On the average: 150k per annum in canada is like $100,000 after tax, gov pension and EI. About 8,300 per month. Mortgage of say $2300 per month. Left with $6000.
Expenses on food, bills, entertainment, gas, professional dues, life insurance, finance etc $2500k to $3000.. Still remains about $3000 to $3500 savings.

That is like 9million naira per year. Your calcs were kind of close. While a lot of people will not earn close to 150k in Canada over their lifetime as that pushes them into the may be top 5% of the society; however, what money can't buy you in Nigeria is peace of mind. I can't quantify that. I would take $50k per year in Canada just for that reason over 20 million per annum in Nigeria.


https://business.financialpost.com/personal-finance/managing-wealth/how-does-your-salary-stack-up-to-the-rest-of-the-country-a-look-at-what-canadians-make

barnaby04:
You earn 7.5m per annum and you are confused about leaving Nigeria for Canada or not?

Let me advise you based on the situation of a friend and brother that recently migrated to Canada. This guy was on a salary of 1.5m per month and that gives you around 18M per year? He never gave it a second thought to emigrate when the opportunity presented itself.

Today, he and his family are well settled in Canada because he went on the PR Express Entry pathway. And always disturbing me whenever we talk on the need for me to take my migration plans very serious. His children has access to free education, free healthcare and a better environment to grow and explore.

No one will make the choice for you except you, yourself.

Please which one is PR Express entry pathway?

I wanted not to comment in this topic but reading how desperate people are in travelling overseas have reversed my initial decision. I will not advice OP but will like him/her to make decision relating to himself. Before you intend to consider abandoning your 7million job to relocate to Canada, there are many things you need to consider. Remember, many people have moved to overseas and returned back. Check our politicians, lecturers, Oil workers etc. They have all lived overseas and moved back to stay in Nigeria. So it boils down to what you as a person like. Earning 7 million annually in Nigeria, you are considered a rich man not average. What type of life do you want to live. Over there, social life is limited, your problem belongs to you and your family, hardly see who to talk with, boring, Nigerians calling you every minutes to send money whether you have it or not, even when you are begging for money, they don't care. Even if you are sick in the hospital, that is not their business, you must send money, even those who know you or not will ask for money. Your profession become useless over there, you have to start from scratch and might end up changing career. What type of family do you have, hope your wife will like to move back to Nigeria as most of the women like it overseas because both of you will share duties. Remember, no house help, and you cannot leave your kids alone in the house, either you or your wife have to stay behind until some certain age, or they are in school and you got to drop and bring them back, depending on the type of job you do. You cant start making money immediately, you got to be a gradual process. I hope you are ready to allow you kids remain in Canada for their entire life as they are not returning any more to live in Nigeria. So it is lies on you and what you want. Every thing is not about money. The most important thing is what will make you and your family happy. I have a lot of people who are not interested travelling to live overseas, so you will not say that they are stupid, that's the type of life they want and will not condemn some one because they want to live overseas. Make more enquiries before you make a move, you can equally visit for couple of weeks without resigning from you work so as to gather more information and witness the environment as well. Good luck with your findings.

salford1:

On the average: 150k per annum in canada is like $100,000 after tax, gov pension and EI. About 8,300 per month. Mortgage of say $2300 per month. Left with $6000.
Expenses on food, bills, entertainment, gas, professional dues, life insurance, finance etc $2500k to $3000.. Still remains about $3000 to $3500 savings.

That is like 9million naira per year. Your calcs were kind of close. While a lot of people will not earn close to 150k in Canada over their lifetime as that pushes them into the may be top 5% of the society; however, what money can't buy you in Nigeria is peace of mind. I can't quantify that. I would take $50k per year in Canada just for that reason over 20 million per annum in Nigeria.


https://business.financialpost.com/personal-finance/managing-wealth/how-does-your-salary-stack-up-to-the-rest-of-the-country-a-look-at-what-canadians-make

To get a job of 50k dollars in Canada is very difficult and you must likely be a professional in your field and tax is still in the amount. I like your opinion, what matters to you is not money but security of life.