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Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by openmine(m): 9:57am On Oct 28, 2018

The National Publicity Secretary of Afenifere, Mr. Yinka Odumakin, in his comment on the issue said, “The demand of South East and South West is that Nigeria must be restructured in 2019. Who cares where the president comes from in 2023 after we have restructured. The various sections of the country will be in productive mode to have time for such shenanigans. What would the Presidency do for the people of any section of Nigeria under the present structure than Fashola’s “achievement” in the power sector.
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by Mrnairalandd: 10:08am On Oct 28, 2018
Igbos are mad!

Do they expect the same Yorubas and Northerners they hate to vote for their kinsman as a president of this country? They must be living in sheer folly...

Politics is all about Numbers and alliances. If South West is able to play his game properly in 2023, presidency goes to us.

Do Igbos expect Yorubas to stand by the side while the rest of Nigeria say Igbo should be made our president?

In the North, presidency has never been rotated, it goes to popular candidate. If Igbos have the claws to fight for presidency against Yorubas, let them bring it on instead of wailing as usual.

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Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by hope4nigeria(m): 10:34am On Oct 28, 2018
obedugo:
You're irrelevant
that's why your tribe remain irrelevant in Nigeria, you forever cry pain.
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by richeeyo(m): 10:40am On Oct 28, 2018
jessywake:

big fool why are your people running away from voting baba again since Hausa and Yoruba are the best. whether you like it or not, sai baba 2019
Believe me or not Yoruba's would still vote Buhari
Igbos would Vote Buhari
Hausa would vote buhari
Atiku just want to tarnish peter Obi's clean records
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by Jimwalex(m): 10:49am On Oct 28, 2018
Naajjii:

What kind of country is this ,how can some people just decide that in a certain year its their turn to govern Nigeria? there are over 300 ethnic groups in Nigeria that have not tasted presidency ,so its not a guarantee that 2019 or 2023 a particular group will be allowed to produce presidency while others are not allowed, restricted or stay on the sideline and be looking,how possible will that be in this current complex Nigeria? if you want the presidency you have to work for it and convince majority of Nigerians that you are the right person or use your influence to get it.We are more than 300 tribes for God sake let stop this " the president must come from my tribe" its not healthy.
Ciao bro
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by olalat(m): 10:54am On Oct 28, 2018
Lordofthewest:
Lol..they are already panicking because of fashola's threat..haha Fashola oko awon omo yeebow
its not even a threat, it's simple political calculation with regional interest at Heart. We aren't emotional, we are always strategic in our calculations. If some people can be rejoicing on the nomination of obi in their domain and do not want to accept what fashola said, they have serious problem.
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by Nobody: 10:58am On Oct 28, 2018
Nnamdi Kanu is coming in full force and uncountable invisible soldiers to destroy that Zoo.
He will be stronger than any force the world has ever seen.
Soon Nigeria will seize to exist
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by Ugo4hotish(m): 11:13am On Oct 28, 2018
post=72472635:
Lol cheesy, No human being can decide a whole ethnic group faith, apart from God.
Don't sweat it!
Nigeria belongs to us ALL.

anywhere you hail from let Chukwu Abiama bless you
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by Tareq1105: 11:13am On Oct 28, 2018
post=72472635:
Lol cheesy, No human being can decide a whole ethnic group faith, apart from God.
Don't sweat it!
Nigeria belongs to us ALL.

Don't mind Fashola
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by BRASH: 11:15am On Oct 28, 2018
post=72472635:
Lol cheesy, No human being can decide a whole ethnic group (faith)FATE, apart from God.
Don't sweat it!
Nigeria belongs to us ALL.
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by bruno47(m): 11:17am On Oct 28, 2018
obedugo:
Lets Atikulate now cos that brown roof bastard has a say only in the west ... Igbo ewegi eze
Even in the west the votes will be shared I promise because Lagos for instance has been divided over Ambode's issues by the common people on the streets.Ogun,Oyo,Osun,Ekiti and Ondo Atiku will surely share votes it may be 60/40 though with the support of the igbos he may be propelled to win.
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by goaldynman(m): 11:17am On Oct 28, 2018
richeeyo:
[s]No igbo man would ever rule Nigeria again
Hausa won't Vote igbo
Yoruba would never vote igbo
Some igbo would never vote for themselves
Vice president post now their whole committee's of useless elders are confused[/s]

TRASH!

ATIKU will win 2019! After that come and stop the Igbo!
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by Nobody: 11:17am On Oct 28, 2018
IGBOs appears to be confused, They are not sure if they want Biafra, Buhari, APC, PDP, Atiku, Fayose or Nigeria.

I have never seen a tribe as divided, undecisive, Arogant and chest beating cowards like the IGBOs.




And oh! i am IGBO too. tongue

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Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by Gangster1ms: 11:19am On Oct 28, 2018
richeeyo:
No igbo man would ever rule Nigeria again
Hausa won't Vote igbo
Yoruba would never vote igbo
Some igbo would never vote for themselves
Vice president post now their whole committee's of useless elders are confused
Funny... i can say the same about yoruba. You guys think too much of yourselves and are completely senseless. How will yoruba win presidential elections in their life if they only vote for themselves? If it were the hausas that were talking now i for believe. Game on! grin
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by Martin0(m): 11:21am On Oct 28, 2018
gypsey:
IGBOs appears to be confused, They are not sure if they want Biafra, Buhari, APC, PDP, Atiku, Fayose or Nigeria.

I have never seen a tribe as divided, undecisive, Arogant and chest beating cowards like the IGBOs.




And oh! i am IGBO too. tongue

gbam
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by Gangster1ms: 11:26am On Oct 28, 2018
hope4nigeria:
that's why you people can never achieve nothing in life, we all knew politician are liers, Yoruba youth also rejected fashola statement, now which one is brown roof bastard! If you people continue this character! You will remain in agony till the end of the world.
No vex.. e fit be your fellow yoruba playing mind games.
By the way we always achieve wherever we go.
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by Gangster1ms: 11:29am On Oct 28, 2018
RealityShot:
Ndigbo should be struggling to be the next VP not president.

2023 is for south south; otherwise niger delta crisis will resume.

#iStandWithBuhari
#BuhariTill2023
Was Goodluck Jonathan not from ss? Ahbeg use ur sense first b4 typing undecided
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by dasauce(m): 11:37am On Oct 28, 2018
okochaik:
Nnamdi Kanu is coming in full force and uncountable invisible soldiers to destroy that Zoo.
He will be stronger than any force the world has ever seen.
Soon Nigeria will seize to exist

Stop being stupid, if your Parent refuse to invest in your education, kindly find a good hustle and get yourself enroll in a PART TIME Studies.
That KANU has simply confuse and reprogramme your brain.. it's not functioning well again.
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by Nobody: 11:38am On Oct 28, 2018
Martin0:


gbam
dem Igbos go come for you oo! grin
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by Easzy96(m): 11:44am On Oct 28, 2018
Nwaforj44:
Not minding the discordant tunes being played by the ruling All Progressives Congress (APC) and scheming regarding which geopolitical zone would produce the president in 2023, mainstream Ndigbo appear unperturbed. They insist they would decide their fate.

In fact, a very reliable source at the apex Igbo socio cultural organisation, Ohanaeze Ndigbo, yesterday, confided in The Guardian that the body was not swayed by ongoing antics as it would soon meet to reveal the path the Igbo would thread regarding the forthcoming 2019 general elections and beyond.

Last Thursday, Minister of Power, Works and Housing, Babatunde Raji Fashola, at a town hall meeting urged the people of South West to vote for President Muhammadu Buhari in the 2019 elections in order to guarantee a return of power to the region in 2023.This view runs contrary to that canvassed earlier in the year by the Secretary to Government of the Federation (SFG), Boss Mustapha, when he promised that the APC would ensure that Igbo produced the president in 2023 should they support the second term aspiration of Buhari.


But in their separate reactions, leading lights in the South East insist that they were focused on the 2019 general elections, and on ensuring the restructuring of the country, just as they alleged that they have always been sidelined by the Buhari- led administration.

“We don’t expect to benefit anything good from Buhari. If Fashola has made this call to the South West with all the cries that Ndigbo have raised so far, then we should come to terms with the fact that such is the thinking of the cabal. It did not start today and we don’t expect it to stop now,” a chieftain of Ohanaeze Ndigbo told The Guardian on ground of anonymity, yesterday.

But the National Chairman of the United Progressives Party (UPP), Chief Chekwas Okorie, suggested the need for Ndigbo to convoke a general meeting on the issue, stressing that, even though there has been a general consensus that Igbo should be allowed to taste power at the centre, he does not expect it to happen without a struggle.

Okorie said: “It is not done turn-by-turn as such. Fashola to my knowledge is using it as a campaign strategy to get the support of the South West for his party. While he was saying so for the South West, Ngige was also saying the same for the South East. Remember that the Secretary to the Government of the Federation (SGF), Boss Mustapha went to a function in Owerri, Imo State to promise that South East will be made to take over from Buhari in 2023 by the APC. The PDP has not told us anything about 2023. I think it is for Igbo to take the decision and decide on what to do between now and 2023.

“On the side of the UPP we are featuring an Igbo candidate for the Presidency in 2023 and we are poised to achieve it. The rotational thing is unwritten and we are saying that for equity and fairness, the Presidency of the country should be allowed to rotate within the geopolitical zones. It is sad that a particular set of people, who have contributed to the development of the country are perpetually held down in the scheme of things in the country. I have always known that there is contest between zones when it comes to issues of this nature, but for the sake of the continued unity, Igbo should be allowed to produce the country’s president in 2023.”

Former Secretary General of Ohanaeze Ndigbo, Dr. Joe Nworgu, who queried when Fashola and Ngige were made the spokespersons for the Yoruba and Igbo in the country, explained that the interest of the zone was how to go about 2019 and ensure the restructuring of the country.“Our focus is 2019 and restructuring. Whatever anybody is saying is just a ploy from the same table. Fashola spoke, Ngige spoke, but I want to know when they became spokespersons of the various zones where they come from. The Yoruba and the Igbo should work together to ensure that they achieve restructuring, and 2019 election is a referendum between those who want restructuring and those against restructuring. We have already known the feelings of the two leading political parties, and it is clear what they represent on the issue,” he said.

A chieftain of the All Progressives Grand Alliance (APGA), Chief Clem Nlemigbo said: “We are not surprised. We have always believed that the APC has no Igbo interest at heart and will always frustrate the zone. It is sad for anybody to begin to believe that only when Ndigbo vote APC will they have the opportunity to become president of the country. APGA is not worried, but is focused on winning the Presidency in 2019 using its candidate.”

Also, president Emeritus, Aka Ikenga, Chief Goddy Uwazuruike said: “It’s possible for South West to get the presidential ticket of APC in 2023. This is because APC is an amalgamation of North West and South West political lords. All the other zones are joiners. For record purposes, the APC was the brainchild of Dr. Ogbonnaya Onu, but at the crucial meeting where the substratum of the party was decided, he was excluded. South East political leaders in APC are mere hangers-on in the corridors of power.

“The power brokers belong to the kitchen cabinet either of the president, or of the party chairman. The Igbo APC leadership merely pretends to be in a position to influence things. Telling the South East that power will shift to it is nothing but lies from the pit of hell. Nobody else made that promise. Even the statement of Boss Mustapha was mere palliative; it is like a mere pat on the back as the party has never made that promise.”

He claimed that, “the entire APC arrangement ab initio never had any worthwhile position for the South East. The South West had the VP, the speaker and the national leader slot. The North West had the president, the North East had the Senate president, the North Central and the South South were ignored. Ndigbo have said it loud and clear that only the party that presents what we want should expect Igbo support. I am in agreement with that.”

Former Minister of Information, Chief Tony Momoh, is of the view that whoever ever wants the Presidency must work hard for that to come to pass.He recalled that APC and President Buhari didn’t get up to 200, 000 votes out of the estimated nine million votes cast in the South East in 2015 because it calculated that PDP will win, while the South West supported the president.

“To give the Presidency to any region depends on the support of the zone because power is not, and cannot be given on a platter of gold. Nobody is going to tell the Igbo to vote for APC because in the next general election, three political parties will be prominent in the South East- the APC, PDP and APGA. If the Igbo people decide to support PDP and APGA and the ruling party eventually retains power till 2023, it would be unthinkable to believe that the Presidency would be conceded to the Igbo at the expense of the Yoruba that gave their support.“For now, even if they support the former vice president (Atiku Abubakar) in next year’s election, that would still not guarantee the region getting the presidency in 2023. The onus is on them to decide whatever they want in the coming presidential election,” he said.

Founding Chairman, South Eastern Peoples Mandate (SEPA), Mr. Campbell Offorbuike Umenzekwe, seems to agree with Momoh that the South East cannot reap when it has failed to sow. Umenzekwe said: “The APC constitution does not recognise zoning of any political position. For example, in the run-up to 2015 presidential primary of the party in Lagos, Governor Rochas Okorocha, participated but lost to Buhari. There is nothing new in what Fashola said to his people in South West, because I believe he is only campaigning for APC to win his region.”

The Publicity Secretary of APC in Lagos, Mr. Joe Igbokwe, has been a strong advocate of Igbo support for Buhari in 2019.According to him, this remains the only way the zone can brighten its chances of getting the Presidency in 2023.He warned that the zone would have itself to blame if it voted against the incumbent next year and lose the opportunity of producing the next president.


According to him, “Politics is a game of numbers and so far the Igbo are in the minority; they must cooperate with other regions to get what they want. 2023 is the closest means for the South East to produce the president and this only depends on their voting pattern in 2019.”

The National Publicity Secretary of Afenifere, Mr. Yinka Odumakin, in his comment on the issue said, “The demand of South East and South West is that Nigeria must be restructured in 2019. Who cares where the president comes from in 2023 after we have restructured. The various sections of the country will be in productive mode to have time for such shenanigans. What would the Presidency do for the people of any section of Nigeria under the present structure than Fashola’s “achievement” in the power sector.

“In the First Republic, Ahmadu Bello declined being Nigeria’s prime minister and opted to be Premier of Northern Region. Yoruba are not children who never tasted soup before who will now soil their garments over stale soup. Restructuring we want!” Former Deputy National Chairman of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP), Chief Olabode George, on his part lambasted Fashola accusing him of abdicating his immediate responsibility as Works Minister to meddle into politics.He said if the minister and his party have failed in road construction and rehabilitation jobs across the nation “he should stay clear of politics.”

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Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by jimmy3105(m): 11:45am On Oct 28, 2018
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by obailala(m): 11:51am On Oct 28, 2018
The SE has a very good political case why it has to support PDP. Supporting Atiku/Obi might just be able to assure an Igbo presidency in 2027.

Likewise, the SW has a very good political case why it has to support APC irrespective of PMB's performance. Supporting APC would providr a 95% assurance of power returning to the SW in 2023.

What I do not understand is why anyone has to insult the other group for their political choices.

Regarding power shifting to the SE, I still can't understand why anyone would sit in their house doing nothing and expect the crown to be given to him on a platter. Political powers in the SW like Tinubu and co have been licking the balls of the Fulanis for the past 4 years for a particular reason. It's even more amusing that some folks from the SE then fling insults at Tinubu and the entire SW for being Fulani slaves, and then these same set of people expect the north to handover to the SE?.... How can the north by-pass the SW that has given it all the support and then handover to it's greatest antagonists and mockers?

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Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by 0monnak0da: 11:57am On Oct 28, 2018
obailala:
The SE has a very good political case why it has to support PDP. Supporting Atiku/Obi might just be able to assure an Igbo presidency in 2027.

Likewise, the SW has a very good political case why it has to support APC irrespective of PMB's performance.

What I do not understand is why anyone has to insult the other group for their choices. Even though we all know it will be the biggest campaign bait of the APC in the SW, a proper statesman shouldn't have openly made the tasteless tribal statement which Fashola made. But then again, this is Nigeria where tribal politics reigns supreme.

Regarding power shifting to the SE, I still can't understand why anyone would sit in their house doing nothing and expect the crown to be given to him on a platter. If APC wins 2019, anyone expecting Buhari to hand over to anywhere else but the SW must be a dreamer. Political powers in the SW like Tinubu and co have been licking the balls of the Fulanis for the past 4 years for this particular reason. It's even more amusing that some folks from the SE then fling insults at Tinubu and the entire SW for being Fulani slaves, and then these same set of people expect APc to handover to the SE?.... How can the north by-pass the SW that has given it all the support and then handover to it's greatest antagonists and mockers?
Nothing tasteless about what he said
Provide a quotation of what EXACTLY was tasteless.
I will provide quotes from other Igbo leaders that are similar
He said that Yoruba should vote for theirs using a well known Yoruba proverb
To call that proverb tasteless is an insult to our heritage
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by Adefemiaderoju1: 11:59am On Oct 28, 2018
post=72472635:
Lol cheesy, No human being can decide a whole ethnic group FATE, apart from God.
Don't sweat it!
Nigeria belong to us ALL.
Stop deceiving yourself Nigeria belong the Hausa-Fulani
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by 0monnak0da: 12:00pm On Oct 28, 2018
One does not adorn another person's child in beads whilst his own is nakedd.
Voting Atiku Obi is not in the Yoruba interests in his view.
When GEJ decided to run again northerners cried foul to protect their interests why can't the Yoruba do the same?
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by billyG(m): 12:16pm On Oct 28, 2018
Ndigbo dnt want to eat meat but want to drink d pepper soup. grin grin grin grin
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by Sleekfingers: 12:42pm On Oct 28, 2018
Some mofos with flat heads are defecating in their pants....

Wetin concern them with what fashola said.....

I thought they have aticulated.....so why the hell they worry...

Useless people...that don't know what they want....na to they wail and complain....go and give atiku your 5%. Who cares

Abi na crime for one to express himself again?

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Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by Nobody: 1:02pm On Oct 28, 2018
dasauce:


Stop being stupid, if your Parent refuse to invest in your education, kindly find a good hustle and get yourself enroll in a PART TIME Studies.
That KANU has simply confuse and reprogramme your brain.. it's not functioning well again.


Crying more than the bereaved
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by badjack(m): 1:15pm On Oct 28, 2018
Fashola na who na? If not for the arrangement of Ogbonnaya Onu my brother, who for know them for center.
My worry as Igbo man is about all these distraction we see in Igbo land. Some are shouting Atikulation , others are shouting Biafra, some are shouting Nnamdi KANU.
Let's leave this Atikulation thing and vote for Buhari. Let him runs his 4 years then we will see. If people like Fashola and his God father shows face, we will dig it hard. Who born monkey?
My worry is that the idiot Rocha's will show face to fool himself. No worry guys, no part get this country. Na our country be this. We will dig, smash and enjoy it together if all want it. Stop distractions and stop Atiku things
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by omooba969(m): 1:39pm On Oct 28, 2018
Omeokachie:
Question: Who is Fashola?

Answer: The first ever ethnic intolerant governor of Lagos state.


As if you guys are tolerant ehn? undecided

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Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by omooba969(m): 1:40pm On Oct 28, 2018
hisexcellency34:
Igbo presidency is the best for Nigeria. The earlier you give it to Igbos, the better

I can't argue that now but the issue is that you guys are not trustworthy.
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by omooba969(m): 1:44pm On Oct 28, 2018
SaintLucia:
Ndigbo fate is in the hands of Athiefu. Buhari and APC will finally give you people an "ASSIGNMENT" after 2019 to help you think deeply on what you really want in Nigeria.

As it stand today, Ndigbo do not really knows what they want. There is confusion in their region among the No Leferedum No Erection, Restructuring, Biafra or Death and Athiefu Dollars camp.

They're their own worst enemy. smiley

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