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hopefulLandlord:
FTFY again

BTW, who's talking about Darwin?

Richirich713:
Meant dawkins, who usual uses the God of the gaps excuse instead of dealing with the arguments by refuting the premises.

finofaya:


God is more wonderful than this pitiful sandcastle and he came out of nowhere. If marvellous God can do it in no time, I think the pitiful sandcastle should have done it in even less time.

Evolution is not 'atheist logic".

obinna58:
Logics

hopefulLandlord:
FTFY

obinna58:
The thread is about logic, you know deep down it's real true but still you just want to derail the thread
Hehehe
Dude don't want to give up

HCpaul:
Stop pushing things...... I stopped taking life serious when I read a book. The book affirm that the universe is made up of stories not atoms, created by ideas and not by any myths or deities.

These stories are of two major types:

1. Stories that touches

2. Stories that works.

Religions are stories that touches and that is why it targets human emotions and not their mind knowing that when humans are emotionally captured they cannot be mentally vibrant.

Science on the other hand are stories that works and that is why we are having all manner of scientific lyrics and philosophical tales yet these stories works. That is what Stephen Hawkins was referring to when he said that science will win because it works.

These stories has digressed from being one of those lenses and dimensions of reality but has become reality themselves.

Some months back, I thought that it was only God that is homocentric but I have gotten to realize now that humans are.

Religious people portrayed God in the image of mankind...... Scientists are also victims because they also portrayed intelligent aliens with this same image of mankind.

I am beginning to love religion but I hate and detest the bigots behind it. I dislike people that take religion to head. It's obvious that true religion are born out of ancient traditions and ideology but some ignorant minds of the twenty-first century still take religion to head. people with no significant impact want to live forever.

By the way

hopefulLandlord:
what are one such arguments with good premises?

Cosmological argument, aka universe exists, therefore god

Moral argument aka something something god is good, therefore god

teleological argument aka something something the earth life, therefore god

its easy to see that these and others are all god of the gaps, the premises are only put there to make it sound philosophically good to the sheeples

I may not agree with Dawkins' methods but I agree with his cutting of the bullsheet, Apologists think that because we can't explain everything about how the "insert anything here" exists that proves God, its a wild goose chase that nobody should take serious

hopefulLandlord:
FTFY again

BTW, who's talking about Darwin?

johnydon22:
I am writing a long rebuttal that addresses this type of argument for the design theory.

hopefulLandlord:
interesting, would it be on another thread or here?

johnydon22:
Another thread

hopefulLandlord:
that's good, kindly mention me when you do

Niflheim:
WOW!!! I just face-palmed, then vomited and fainted when I saw this thread!!! It is like that massive dung that always seems to refuse to get flushed down the toilet!!! I mean, can people still bring up such assumptions in the 21st century?!!! Every law has a lawgiver? For real?!!!

Niflheim:
When you bring up old, lame, tired and worn out arguments like, "can there be a law without a law giver?", you actually cause yourself(and your entire religion), a great disservice!!!

Niflheim:
You just committed a 'foul' in the 'philosophical playground' that deserves an immediate expulsion/sending off from the field of play(this foul is known as a "FALLACY OF EQUIVOCATION" ) , for it is only a "dung distributor" that will confuse descriptive laws(natural laws) with prescriptive laws(man made dung written on a piece of paper that can be broken at anytime)!!!

Niflheim:
NATURAL LAWS ARE "DESCRIPTONS", THEY ARE NOT RULES!!!

Niflheim:
@olaadegbu,

Sometimes I question your mental health status!!! For there was nowhere where I said that laws of Gravity can be broken, I WAS SPEAKING OF THE "PRESCRIPTIVE LAWS" LIKE THE DUNG THAT IS WRITTEN IN YOUR BIBLE!!! I WROTE IN PLAIN ENGLISH AND YOU STILL MISQUOTE ME?

OLAADEGBU:
This sandscale came about by chance after millions of years of erosion. Genius.

solite3:
nice one OLADEGBU

OLAADEGBU:
Evolution is a Lie

Irony. Atheists often claim that the Bible and God were all made up. Yet it's predictions are always spot on. It may never address evolution directly (rock aka fossil record and animal aka we are all animals worship) because the word did not exist yet. But it is addressed more than once indirectly.

Roman 1 addresses not only the worship of the creation (animals) instead of the Creator. But it also indirectly addresses Theistic evolution when it says: 25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

Because the only people who can change God's word into a lie are those who mix this with God's word. Atheists do not believe in God nor His word so they do not do this.

Romans 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
~ Issac

Source: https://www.facebook.com/EvolutionIsALie/ 28 October 2017 ·

LordReed:
Evolution is a lie but God created dinosaurs. LoLz!

OLAADEGBU:
If you object can you then account for the laws of logic in your atheistic worldview? I can see that your cronies have all scampered away at the sight of those questions.



It is up to you to answer the question or just usual your usual escape route of I don't know.



Try jumping out of an aeroplane or tower block if you insist that there is nothing like the law of gravity.



The questions regarding the laws of logic are worldview questions that stop you atheists in your tracks. They expose the inconsistencies in your worldview since you are unable to account for the existence and nature of laws.

OLAADEGBU:
Morality and the Irrationality of an Evolutionary Worldview

https://answersingenesis.org/morality/morality-and-the-irrationality-of-an-evolutionary-worldview/

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OLAADEGBU:
This sandscale came about by chance after millions of years of erosion. Genius.

butterflylion:
He is very correct especially since his target audience are the atheists here on Nairaland who desperately need anything to hold on to in order to disbelieve in the existence of God and one of such things a lot of them here hold on to is evolution.

They believe beauty can come from randomness. Harmony can come from randomness. Just like the design and construction of a mega city came about over millions of years of randomness then we had skyscrapers appear, well manicured landscapes, flyovers, trains, fast cars, etc. All came from randomness Afterall the basic component of what these things came from are molecules

jaephoenix:
So which god created the universe and why should I believe yours out of the thousands of gods

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