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| Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by carreport(m): 4:56pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
I have been a very silent reader on this thread but felt the need to comment On Amazon before u buy a product u click on the reviews and read user experience with the product and after sales services which helps u make up ur mind on buying or not. So we should all be encouraged to air our costumer experience so others can make up their mind before contacting any seller. Thanks. 8 Likes |
| Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by carreport(m): 5:04pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
Please I want to make several inquiries. I have a colleague who wants to mount 20 pieces of solar panels on the roof but the Architect is cautioning against it on the premise that the roof was designed to carry its own load and not to carry other superimposed load. Each solar panel weighs about 18.5kg according to the name plate so 20 panels is about 370kg total dead load excluding added load on a windy day. Pls for the gurus in the house who have carried out several installations is there an specific design of the roof member trusses before mounting the solar panels on them? And How safe are they mounting that amount of panels over the years (10years time) Thank you all. |
| Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by makavele: 5:47pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
Pretty small unless the roof was built with substandard materials. 5 average men of 80kg weight is 400kg. Are you saying 5 men standing on the roof will damage it? They can stand for eternity. A man standing on the roof puts more pressure than an equally weighted panel. Force over area = pressure . TLDR: Take your mind off it . 5 Likes |
| Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mank1234(m): 6:23pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
carreport: Ask the architect how long 6 full grown adult can be on the roof without it coming down. Modified: just noticed that your post had already been properly responded to above. 1 Like |
| Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Nobody: 8:00pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
I am a DIY solar installation enthusiast, I have been a able to successfully executed over 8 projects, but having come close to install 20 panels of 325watts 30v to a luminous 10kva 180v. How are the solar panels connected to achieve 180v output.? |
| Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by DUNKA(m): 8:24pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
carreport:using 16 panels and did not need any special reinforcements for the roof or the panel weights |
| Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by earthrealm(m): 9:26pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
nonoski:konga, jumia, www.aedunamis.com heard good stuff about voltron, am actually in the market for a 15kva servo, looking for a sweet deal  |
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| Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by zellfoxx: 9:52pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
EPIC kiekie1: |
| Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by kiekie1(m): 10:12pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
anidat77: Thanks for the patronage Sir ! 1 Like |
| Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Valto(m): 10:21pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
^^^^ u for kukuma use one full page for advert mr kiekie aka MrsDaniel.  9 Likes |
| Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by makavele: 11:46pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
indigene: This question is seriously flawed. A lot of things are confusing about it. You have 20x 325 W; 30V on the roof trying to achieve 180V ouput to an 10kv inverter. What happened to our lovely brother, int the middle, the charge controller  The last time I checked, the panels on the roof are arranged in specs with the charge controller; and not the battery or inverter. The "amount" of panels (emphasis on the word, amount) is chosen in accordance with how large the battery bank is. The inverter does not run off the panels. Except in the microinverter world. Another league of its own. Hell yeah, if each panel has a VOC of 30v (which i doubt); You could as well, string 6 panels in series and get 180V yeah; then parallel another 6 twice, to make a 6 by 3 config, with 2 panels being redundant. Try this and blow up the charge controller . . Except it is rated to handle 180V of VOC. You wanna use multiple charge controllers, then you gotta split the array too . . Well, what do I know? Too much Netflix these days have gotten me quite solar-rusty. So you should perhaps rephrase your question again or wait for the other gurus to come help both of us out. 3 Likes |
| Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mank1234(m): 11:58pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
kiekie1: Num 1 online store The solar shop, buyright, solarshopng, etal are way bigger and are all represented here by different monikers yet they don't make noise. Please let's be mature. Keep adverts short with possibly a link to your website, Facebook, Instagram page or whatsapp group. By referral, I've patronized you before with satisfaction and may do so again in future. It's not by long list of items. When someone here requested for low power consuming fan, so many people here recommended JUO. How many times does he bug this thread with adverts? Nobody has the patience to go through this kind of adverts line by line. How do you think this thread will be if every marketer resort to this strategy. You can copy my line below: We are a renown solar equipment supplier and installer . We differentiate ourself from competitors by prompt delivery to all states of the federation at competitive price. Visit our page on FACEBOOK, INSTAGRAM to view products currently in stock and past works we have done. Our LINE is accessible between TIME and TIME. We look forward to a mutually rewarding transaction with you. And lastly let's adhere adverts on Fridays only. 8 Likes |
| Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by makavele: 12:05am On Nov 05, 2018 |
Valto: I remember quite early this year. I raised a very strong objection towards spamming the thread with adverts and the rest of the "solar' caucus turned a blind eye to my posts {complaints}. I was so pissed, I had to copy another marketer's ads (zeestone) and was posting it in quick succession, spamming the thread rather rapidly. And Kiekie (who I had the complaint against) would continue to post, and I would not relent either, I wasn't marketing for zeestone99; I just wanted to show that if we continued, there would be practically nothing to read except ads. This isnt Craigslist or eBay. I gave up after a while. Look at where we are now. Your chickens have come home to roost , eh? 7 Likes |
| Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by samnaija: 7:06am On Nov 05, 2018 |
@niyi u are breathe of fresh air in this forum. I was about to respond on this Mrs Daniel. when u responded. he or she only appears when kiekie is on the burner which of course is many times. it is an insult on the intelligence of people on this forum not to spot the similarities. kudos to the ogas on this forum for keeping it alive...pls less spamming more contributions. 8 Likes |
| Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Nobody: 7:33am On Nov 05, 2018 |
makavele:Thanks for coming in. The inverter is not a hybrid rated at 10kva 180v, but want to configure in solar array 18unit assumed to be 24v, the battery bank is 15units of 12v 200AH battery ring in series to achieve 180v. Hence I am looking at a maximum number of panels 18 units, and a fangpusun 100amp 180v rated solar controller. My question how to ring the 18panels to arrive at 180v output from the panels to the charge controller, I am assuming ring 6 sets in series by 3 and connect all 3 positive together and 3 negative like wise. What is your opinion? |
| Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Dam5reey(m): 8:18am On Nov 05, 2018 |
indigene: What is the VOC Rating on your CC to start with..? Note you can't charge 12V battery with 12V VOC panel Hence you can't be calculating towards 180V.. If VOC is 250V or higher Simply do 9S2P 9 panels in series connected in two strings 1 Like |
| Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by carreport(m): 8:56am On Nov 05, 2018 |
makavele:Thanks |
| Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Saipro(m): 8:58am On Nov 05, 2018 |
It would be too much effort to quote all deserving posts (literally every post made) on this 180VDC VoC thingy. I'm not really contributing. Just wanna point out a few things. - 325W panels having a VoC of 30V are rather uncommon. Be sure you're not quoting the ImP. - Victron and Midnite make 250V MPPT charge controllers. MorningStar has one doing 600V. Most others do 150V or less.180V CC are not so common. Think forward to future maintenance and support if you're using a product uncommon neither here nor elsewhere. - off-grid hybrid inverters are likewise either 150V and below or much higher (typically 320V and above). Smaller ones exist with your VoC. - in anything you do, safety comes before economic viability and ease of use. Unless tangled in cables or otherwise firmly grasping a live wire/device, 180VAC is unlikely to kill an adult. 180VDC almost certainly will. Have you considered the cost of the necessary accessories for grounding and fault protection? Unless your panels are really far from your CC, there really isn't a justifiable reason (asides personal desire) to exceed 150VDC. That's the sweet spot for transmission losses and safety of cable handling. |
| Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Nobody: 9:01am On Nov 05, 2018 |
Dam5reey:May be I did not understand some of your techie term and abbrvs. The charge controller is rated at 80amps 150v. Thanks for coming in. |
| Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Nobody: 9:08am On Nov 05, 2018 |
Dam5reey:May be I did not understand some of your techie term and abbrvs. The charge controller is rated at 80amps 180volt PWM Thanks for coming in. |
| Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by makavele: 10:19am On Nov 05, 2018 |
Saipro: This is very false. Electricity be it, AC or DC above a certain voltage will kill you. While it is the current that kills and not voltage, but after a certain voltage there is enough propensity to deliver the current. A 12V battery practically does no harm when you short-circuit the terminals with your bare hands, because 12V is too small too push the current. But touching a 240V outlet will zap you, because there is now enough potential difference( 240 live and 0v groun) to push the current. 120VAC will do more harm than 120VDC. They will both dissipate the same amount of power in a resistive circuit, however, in an AC circuit, 120VAC is not the peak voltage. Due to RMS, the peak of 120VAC is somewhere around 170VAC and the peak of 240VAC is somewhere around 365VAC. So you see for the same amount of power, the AC has the propensity to deliver far more instantaneous current due to RMS peaking. Also, the human body can resist DC much better than AC. The human body has both capacitance and resistance. As current oscillates, a capacitor (now the human body) is less inclined to slow it down. DC doesn't oscillate at all, thus more inclination to slow down the current, This leads to high Impedance. AC on the other hand oscillates rapidly, so the Impedance is very low, which means lower resistance, and more current can travel through you. This is why even 80VAC will zap you, whereas 80VDC, might sting you. Finally, VAC causes heart fibrillation. Since we know that AC is always oscillating, when it reaches the hearts, it f*cks with the muscles, making them move out of rhythm. This is called fibrillation. DC doesn't oscillate, so it if unluckily reaches the heart, it just stops the heart. And a fibrillated heart poses great danger than a stopped heart. The most important thing is that both will kill you if the voltage is high enough to drive current through your body and depending on the point of entry (contact). But the AC has more potential to kill, pound for pound. And this was the argument point for Mr Edison in his fight against Nikola Tesla and yes he was right . . . 3 Likes |
| Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by makavele: 10:20am On Nov 05, 2018 |
indigene: PWM for such a bulky installation? Are you serious right now?  2 Likes |
| Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by NiyiOmoIyunade(m): 10:50am On Nov 05, 2018 |
Boss, Please confirm the following; 1) You have a 10kva inverter with 180vdc nominal voltage - Yes or No? 2) You have 15 pieces of 12v batteries connected in series to make 180vdc nominal and you are using these batteries with the 10kva inverter. Yes or No? If the above are true and you wish to keep your battery and inverter setup, then at a minimum you will need a charge controller with higher than 180v operating voltage - at least 210v to 230volts operating voltage rating to maintain your batteries properly. Since you mentioned a PWM CC you will be needing to have your panels setup in series to make up at least 260v (PV Panels must provide at least 17.5vdc output at the panel for each 12vdc nominal of battery) for you to have any hope of getting enough voltage to your batteries. BE SURE THAT YOUR CC CAN HANDLE THIS KIND OF VOLTAGE BEFORE YOU PROCEED!!! I have a running joke that it requires a person with solid technical skills to make PWM work efficiently in a large system whereas any average Joe can string together a reasonably functional MPPT system - in your case it may be worthwhile for you to look at an MPPT CC - BUT since the sweet spot for these systems is 48v you may need to jettison the 10kva 180vdc inverter and get a 6kw or bigger 48v inverter indigene: 1 Like |
| Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Dam5reey(m): 11:04am On Nov 05, 2018 |
makavele: , I forgot Everything I wanted to type when I saw PWM.. 3 Likes |
| Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Nobody: 11:13am On Nov 05, 2018 |
NiyiOmoIyunade: |
| Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by NiyiOmoIyunade(m): 11:38am On Nov 05, 2018 |
I suggest that you do a load assessment for this client/location to determine what their equipment loads and power needs are - with this information, you will know what size of inverter will be right for the job. Most people tend to use systems that are oversized for their needs and this is both wasteful and inefficient. Finally, you should definitely look at an MPPT based design for this project - I am getting a bit old in this business and I have yet to see a worthwhile PWM CC that excels in the kind of high voltage scenario you have described - the marketers will offer you many seemingly attractive PWM choices - it is doubtful if you will actually find one that delivers as promised - the more likely end result is dead batteried and dissappointed clients who now believe that solar does not work. indigene: 1 Like |
| Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 12:15pm On Nov 05, 2018 |
Personally, I have bought many items from him and he has always responded to all my technical queries. I normally choose him not because of the price but of the speed of delivery and his willingness to go to lengths to find exactly the product you need from all the available supplier's vendors. To his credit, he is one of the few suppliers who actually understand the product and the application mrsdaniel: 6 Likes |
| Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 12:38pm On Nov 05, 2018 |
indigene: If you are using sukam or similar Indian CC then the CC is rated at 415 VoC so you can safely put 9 325 watt panels in series. However, I would advise using the linemates gloves while working and Schindler 250 V DC surge arrestor before the DC breakers/fuses to avoid both life-threatening issues and serious fie incidences in future or better ask somebody who has working experince of HV volatges like ex NEPA electritian it is better to link to datasheet or post an image of the solar panel nameplate if you need deatiled calculations 1 Like
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| Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by DMerciful(m): 2:14pm On Nov 05, 2018 |
When we received negative feedbacks from customers or potential customers, it's an opportunity to learn and not to push back. Appreciable number of people liked the guy's submissions so it's reasonable for kiekie1 to take the feedback and improve. Nobody knows it all and even major companies gets these kinds of feedbacks from time to time. On a side note I wonder why you are responding for kiekie and somehow you tone seems similar to him mrsdaniel: 6 Likes |
| Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ojeysky(m): 2:53pm On Nov 05, 2018 |
earthrealm: I called datacomm and the feedback they gave was that Voltron input range for 12kva is 140v to 220v. I have never seen such a small band so I went for 10kva A&E instead which has 80v to 270v. I hope it will be sufficient for my load. 1 Like |
| Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by makavele: 3:21pm On Nov 05, 2018 |
ojeysky: The 80 - 270 is nice... If "NEPA" isn't delivering 220-240; then rest assured they are delivering 80V Happens here more often than not. |
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