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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jpmoriarti(m): 8:49am On Nov 07, 2018
tesppidd:
Shouting on a player does 2 things;

1.It brings out the best.
2.It demoralizes and brings out the worst.

I didn't see the last moments of the game sha.

So I don't get the context.

But players can be guided and corrected without being shouted on.
You can call it shouting since football match is always a frenzy affair, suddenly you are attacking and suddenly you are defending. So, you don't even have the chance to whisper instructions to someone. Shouting is the best anyone can do. You can see how the coaches do it on the sidelines. However, if Dembele allows the shouting to demoralize him, then he is not a true professional. To be playing for a top club like Barcelona, is definitely not a walk in the park. He must always be on his toes otherwise there must be someone to ensure he's always on his toes.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by tesppidd: 8:55am On Nov 07, 2018
jpmoriarti:
You can call it shouting since football match is always a frenzy affair, suddenly you are attacking and suddenly you are defending. So, you don't even have the chance to whisper instructions to someone. Shouting is the best anyone can do. You can see how the coaches do it on the sidelines. However, if Dembele allows the shouting to demoralize him, then he is not a true professional. To be playing for a top club like Barcelona, is definitely not a walk in the park. He must always be on his toes otherwise there must be someone to ensure he's always on his toes.
So who should be shouting on Suarez whenever he goes on his barren spell?
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jonsnow92: 9:09am On Nov 07, 2018
HumbleBoy21:
Suarez and Messi never welcomed dembele to barca. Wonder what it is with these two. Dembele has saved us, couple of times like in the copa del ray final.
This conclusion is based on what premise?
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by HumbleBoy21: 9:14am On Nov 07, 2018
jonsnow92:
This conclusion is based on what premise?
Abeg i don't have time.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by HumbleBoy21: 9:18am On Nov 07, 2018
jpmoriarti:
I think Dembele played with more purpose yesterday. If it was as a result of the yelling from Suarez, then i have no problem with it. They are professionals. Nobody can teach them that what happens on the pitch, stays on the pitch. You should know Messi is not an outspoken personality, unlike Suarez who is more flamboyant. So, I am not surprised at all that Messi does not give instructions on the pitch, and that goes on to show why Messi is not regarded as a charismatic captain. Maybe, the coach may have assigned Dembele to Suarez. As a matter of fact, I think Dembele needs all the help he can get. It wouldn't be in Barca's interest to spend so much on the player and not realize the results they expect. It would even tell on the player. So, frankly, I don't mind the shouting at all, if it helps bring out the best we know he is. He is a young man. He should listen
how can shouting bring out the best in someone.
say another thing.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by tesppidd: 9:22am On Nov 07, 2018
HumbleBoy21:
how can shouting bring out the best in someone.
say another thing.
I tire ooh.

The guys who should be shouting on anybody at all are the more consistent players like Messi, Alba, Busquets and Pique.

But they don't even do that.


Suarez should park well jare'.

He was useless first 6 weeks of the season and now that he's done well over two weeks he wants to be scolding the young Dembele.

If Suarez was still on 1 goal would he have treated Dembele like that last night?

CAPITAL NO.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jpmoriarti(m): 9:26am On Nov 07, 2018
tesppidd:
So who should be shouting on Suarez whenever he goes on his barren spell?
Suarez na senior man. He's paid his due. He's one of the most prolific striker in the world today. You dare not shout on him. Dembele should be flattered to have played alongside him
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jpmoriarti(m): 9:36am On Nov 07, 2018
tesppidd:
I tire ooh.

The guys who should be shouting on anybody at all are the more consistent players like Messi, Alba, Busquets and Pique.

But they don't even do that.


Suarez should park well jare'.

He was useless first 6 weeks of the season and now that he's done well over two weeks he wants to be scolding the young Dembele.

If Suarez was still on 1 goal would he have treated Dembele like that last night?

CAPITAL NO.
Suarez was the leader of the attack yesterday, Busquets, midfield and Pique, defence. Everyone controls there department. Suarez has more leadership quality than Messi and should have been captain ahead of him but of course he cannot be since Messi is his senior in Barca. After Puyol, Barca haven't had those charismatic captain that gets everyone pulling in the same direction and helping the young players with heavy prize tag realize that it is only through hard work that they would achieve their dreams in Barca, not by driving fancy cars and partying all night and coming late for trainings. These are some of the negative reports we get from Dembele and it shows on the pitch with his rather laissez faire attitude towards everything.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Ibukzy: 10:05am On Nov 07, 2018
Olamyyde:
Thank God malcom shamed valverde today. No young player can thrive under this werey! angry
do u notice, that valverde didnt celebrate the goal, he was just shaking his head
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by melodyogonna(m): 10:59am On Nov 07, 2018
homesteady:
No be today them start this time system na, you suppose don get used to the time change.
yes but I no like am
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by HumbleBoy21: 11:50am On Nov 07, 2018
jpmoriarti:
Suarez was the leader of the attack yesterday, Busquets, midfield and Pique, defence. Everyone controls there department. Suarez has more leadership quality than Messi and should have been captain ahead of him but of course he cannot be since Messi is his senior in Barca. After Puyol, Barca haven't had those charismatic captain that gets everyone pulling in the same direction and helping the young players with heavy prize tag realize that it is only through hard work that they would achieve their dreams in Barca, not by driving fancy cars and partying all night and coming late for trainings. These are some of the negative reports we get from Dembele and it shows on the pitch with his rather laissez faire attitude towards everything.
Abraham Lincoln for me is one of the greatest leaders of all time, yet he never ruled by force or aggression although he was outspoken. Everybody has their own way of leadership not by doing gra-gra.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by HumbleBoy21: 11:52am On Nov 07, 2018
Ibukzy:
do u notice, that valverde didnt celebrate the goal, he was just shaking his head
He knows the evil he was doing. Malcom is better tan dembele, i like dembele but prefer malcom
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jpmoriarti(m): 12:07pm On Nov 07, 2018
HumbleBoy21:
Abraham Lincoln for me is one of the greatest leaders of all time, yet he never ruled by force or aggression although he was outspoken. Everybody has their own way of leadership not by doing gra-gra.
We are talking about sports, not politics. Sports is a physical exercise and it is a competition. If your mind is not fired up for it, you might be unable to deliver the best you can. It is like marching to a war. If you put away your aggressive side and become meek, so you can look like Mr Lincoln, the best leader of all time, you will be butchered. In the instance of football, you will lose.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Nobody: 12:13pm On Nov 07, 2018
jpmoriarti:
Suarez was the leader of the attack yesterday, Busquets, midfield and Pique, defence. Everyone controls there department. Suarez has more leadership quality than Messi and should have been captain ahead of him but of course he cannot be since Messi is his senior in Barca. After Puyol, Barca haven't had those charismatic captain that gets everyone pulling in the same direction and helping the young players with heavy prize tag realize that it is only through hard work that they would achieve their dreams in Barca, not by driving fancy cars and partying all night and coming late for trainings. These are some of the negative reports we get from Dembele and it shows on the pitch with his rather laissez faire attitude towards everything.
I completely agree with this except for the suarez having more leadership quality than leo part.

Dembele should sit up for once...hardly shows hunger on the pitch.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by HumbleBoy21: 12:33pm On Nov 07, 2018
jpmoriarti:
We are talking about sports, not politics. Sports is a physical exercise and it is a competition. If your mind is not fired up for it, you might be unable to deliver the best you can. It is like marching to a war. If you put away your aggressive side and become meek, so you can look like Mr Lincoln, the best leader of all time, you will be butchered. In the instance of football, you will lose.
i agree with you
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Isomerizm(m): 2:50pm On Nov 07, 2018
HumbleBoy21:
He knows the evil he was doing. Malcom is better tan dembele, i like dembele but prefer malcom
Malcom isn't better than Dembele.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by HumbleBoy21: 3:24pm On Nov 07, 2018
Isomerizm:
Malcom isn't better than Dembele.
And how do you know that ?
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by 10Dove(m): 4:14pm On Nov 07, 2018
I seriously want dembele to leave barca! His agents should work smth out for him in the next TW, No young player deserves to play under this mini- mourinho called valverde. Imagine the way he treats semedo? No1 believed in paco, but today he's banging goals. Digne left, no lb sub, malcom has been good all along, but the dolt won't play him.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jonsnow92: 5:41pm On Nov 07, 2018
jpmoriarti:
Suarez was the leader of the attack yesterday, Busquets, midfield and Pique, defence. Everyone controls there department. Suarez has more leadership quality than Messi and should have been captain ahead of him but of course he cannot be since Messi is his senior in Barca. After Puyol, Barca haven't had those charismatic captain that gets everyone pulling in the same direction and helping the young players with heavy prize tag realize that it is only through hard work that they would achieve their dreams in Barca, not by driving fancy cars and partying all night and coming late for trainings. These are some of the negative reports we get from Dembele and it shows on the pitch with his rather laissez faire attitude towards everything.
Absolutely Spot On.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by HumbleBoy21: 6:01pm On Nov 07, 2018
10Dove:
I seriously want dembele to leave barca! His agents should work smth out for him in the next TW, No young player deserves to play under this mini- mourinho called valverde. Imagine the way he treats semedo? No1 believed in paco, but today he's banging goals. Digne left, no lb sub, malcom has been good all along, but the dolt won't play him.
it was even God that saved Arthur.
Well I don't want dembele or malcom to leave..
They should remain.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 6:24pm On Nov 07, 2018
10Dove:
I seriously want dembele to leave barca! His agents should work smth out for him in the next TW, No young player deserves to play under this mini- mourinho called valverde. Imagine the way he treats semedo? No1 believed in paco, but today he's banging goals. Digne left, no lb sub, malcom has been good all along, but the dolt won't play him.
did you watch Dembele during the world cup? Even Deschamps stopped playing him, but you will only remember Valverde. Shey Arthur is as old as Messi shey, that should be why Valverde starts him. Valverde sees inconsistency in Dembele. Authoritarian coaches like Guardiola and Tuchel prefer younger players, they listen to instruction, Dembele no wan hear word. As good as Mendy is, Guardiola still punishes him for insubordianation, even Sane. Dembele is no different. Coaches need players to do the right thing to help the team thrive. Valverde is right, Dembele is wrong. And I prefer Dembele to Malcolm.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 6:25pm On Nov 07, 2018
jonsnow92:
This conclusion is based on what premise?
I tire for the guy
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 6:27pm On Nov 07, 2018
tesppidd:
I tire ooh.

The guys who should be shouting on anybody at all are the more consistent players like Messi, Alba, Busquets and Pique.

But they don't even do that.


Suarez should park well jare'.

He was useless first 6 weeks of the season and now that he's done well over two weeks he wants to be scolding the young Dembele.

If Suarez was still on 1 goal would he have treated Dembele like that last night?

CAPITAL NO.
If Dembele plays well, nobody will shout at him. Busquets has scolded Dembele, so has Messi and now Suarez. Something is definitely wrong that's why they shouted at him.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 6:27pm On Nov 07, 2018
jpmoriarti:
Suarez was the leader of the attack yesterday, Busquets, midfield and Pique, defence. Everyone controls there department. Suarez has more leadership quality than Messi and should have been captain ahead of him but of course he cannot be since Messi is his senior in Barca. After Puyol, Barca haven't had those charismatic captain that gets everyone pulling in the same direction and helping the young players with heavy prize tag realize that it is only through hard work that they would achieve their dreams in Barca, not by driving fancy cars and partying all night and coming late for trainings. These are some of the negative reports we get from Dembele and it shows on the pitch with his rather laissez faire attitude towards everything.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by 10Dove(m): 6:50pm On Nov 07, 2018
IKON360:
did you watch Dembele during the world cup? Even Deschamps stopped playing him, but you will only remember Valverde. Shey Arthur is as old as Messi shey, that should be why Valverde starts him. Valverde sees inconsistency in Dembele. Authoritarian coaches like Guardiola and Tuchel prefer younger players, they listen to instruction, Dembele no wan hear word. As good as Mendy is, Guardiola still punishes him for insubordianation, even Sane. Dembele is no different. Coaches need players to do the right thing to help the team thrive. Valverde is right, Dembele is wrong. And I prefer Dembele to Malcolm.
Arthur is older than dembele n he's just a genius, funny how u dodged semedo, paco n malcom cases. Griezman's inability to lead the line alone also contributed to droppin dembele 4 a giroud he can feed off. Not saying dembele performed well, he did'nt, but can be given benefit of the doubt after a lengthy injury. Under valverde's watch,even iker munian regressed badly.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by 10Dove(m): 7:01pm On Nov 07, 2018
HumbleBoy21:
it was even God that saved Arthur.
Well I don't want dembele or malcom to leave..
They should remain.
He treats players so bad, before was paco alcacer, the player i pity the most is semedo tbh. Then dembele, malcom, munir, i just pity lenglet once titi is back. No matter how bad pique n suarez plays, the coward 'll never sub them... Right from last season till now, Thank God he has improved on his champions league away attacking set up, that's a positive.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 7:20pm On Nov 07, 2018
10Dove:
Arthur is older than dembele n he's just a genius, funny how u dodged semedo, paco n malcom cases. Griezman's inability to lead the line alone also contributed to droppin dembele 4 a giroud he can feed off. Not saying dembele performed well, he did'nt, but can be given benefit of the doubt after a lengthy injury. Under valverde's watch,even iker munian regressed badly.
oya let me address them, Enrique signed Paco, but Suarez is far far better than Paco and Messi and Suarez is better than Messi and Paco. Enrique knew that, Valverde knew that, you and I know that. In your honest opinion, Roberto and Semedo who deserves to start? Roberto is easily the best right back in Europe now.(even whoscored thinks so too) hopefully you watched Malcolm during our Copa del rey match. Dembele will face worse punishment under Guardiola, I mean worse. Of all French forwards, the most consistent for me are Greizman and that damn Mbappe. The rest are damn inconsistent, like Martial, Fekir, Dembele, Giroud etc. Even stupid Pogba, damn inconsistent. I love Dembele, but he's decision making needs a lot of improvement. He mustn't always dribble. Neymar dribbles too much so he is always fouled, Dembele dribbles and then loses the ball, he needs to learn close control dribbling or avoid dribbling till then.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 7:24pm On Nov 07, 2018
10Dove:
He treats players so bad, before was paco alcacer, the player i pity the most is semedo tbh. Then dembele, malcom, munir, i just pity lenglet once titi is back. No matter how bad pique n suarez plays, the coward 'll never sub them... Right from last season till now, Thank God he has improved on his champions league away attacking set up, that's a positive.
EV is a good coach, no coach plays players out of pity, but merit. A fit Umtiti and a fit Lenglet who is better? Who is more experienced? Pique is exceptional, but he easily gets distracted but when he is focused, there are few defenders better than him. Paco and Suarez who is better? There are not up to 5 strikers better than Suarez. And you are shouting Munir and Paco lol
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by 10Dove(m): 7:36pm On Nov 07, 2018
IKON360:
oya let me address them, Enrique signed Paco, but Suarez is far far better than Paco and Messi and Suarez is better than Messi and Paco. Enrique knew that, Valverde knew that, you and I know that. In your honest opinion, Roberto and Semedo who deserves to start? Roberto is easily the best right back in Europe now.(even whoscored thinks so too) hopefully you watched Malcolm during our Copa del rey match. Dembele will face worse punishment under Guardiola, I mean worse. Of all French forwards, the most consistent for me are Greizman and that damn Mbappe. The rest are damn inconsistent, like Martial, Fekir, Dembele, Giroud etc. Even stupid Pogba, damn inconsistent. I love Dembele,
yeah, Aguero is also miles ahead of Gabriel Jesus, yet jesus gets lots of minutes, do you knw hw many matches Luisito went without scoring dis season n last? Yet was'nt subed? You r not the only one that's been seeing lots of matches across europe, so calm down n get ur head off Ev's ass
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 8:01pm On Nov 07, 2018
10Dove:
yeah, Aguero is also miles ahead of Gabriel Jesus, yet jesus gets lots of minutes, do you knw hw many matches Luisito went without scoring dis season n last? Yet was'nt subed? You r not the only one that's been seeing lots of matches across europe, so calm down n get ur head off Ev's ass
relax, no insults. Gabriel Jesus had more minutes last season, this season Aguero has had more minutes. And the reason Guardiola preferred G Jesus to Aguero was that Jesus' pressing was damn awesome, he led the pressing too well, Aguero had to learn from him... EV is a good coach, not the best in the world but a good coach. But some players need to step up
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Nobody: 8:09pm On Nov 07, 2018
femiti:
I completely agree with this except for the suarez having more leadership quality than leo part.

Dembele should sit up for once...hardly shows hunger on the pitch.
Dembele was better than Suarez yesterday

With the chances Suarez had. Dembele would have buried one

The saves dembele forced were even from harder conditions

Argue with goal
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Nobody: 8:26pm On Nov 07, 2018
maybachmusic:
Dembele was better than Suarez yesterday

With the chances Suarez had. Dembele would have buried one

The saves dembele forced were even from harder conditions

Argue with goal
ok
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