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Re: Surviving Soldiers Accuse Military Authorities Of Procuring Obsolete Weapons by misano(m): 9:43am On Nov 25, 2018
SolutionMee:
cheesy

Is that enough reason why you should intentionally submit yourselves to be killed by Boko Haram militia? Don't you guys know that you're constituting nuisance and destroying the image of this great nation abroad? My friends here were making fun of me due to your incompetence.

If at all the government weren't buying you latest ammunitions, can't you guys afford that with your salaries? At least, you're getting paid. The government will not always be there for us. Since you've vowed to defend your country in any situation, you shouldn't be too stingy to buy yourselves some riffles to get rid of a more dangerous enemy.


I salute ur stupidness. It's legendary.

Re: Surviving Soldiers Accuse Military Authorities Of Procuring Obsolete Weapons by Nobody: 9:44am On Nov 25, 2018
jamace:
250 Civilian JTF members with prerequisite qualification recruited into the Nigerian Army: http://saharareporters.com/2016/07/22/250-civilian-jtf-members-absorbed-army

Where are they deployed?

Borno, different military bases, I saw them last time I was in Maiduguri, over half of them are still there
Re: Surviving Soldiers Accuse Military Authorities Of Procuring Obsolete Weapons by misano(m): 9:46am On Nov 25, 2018
BankeSmalls:
A bad workman always quarrels with his tools - African proverbs


Have U su*kt ur boyfriend's blokos this morning? That's Y ur mouth is talking nonsense now. Put ur hand around it until Emeka comes around to do D needful.
Re: Surviving Soldiers Accuse Military Authorities Of Procuring Obsolete Weapons by 247Dior(m): 9:49am On Nov 25, 2018
sarrki:
There is more to this Boko-Haram carnage


Both Apc and Pdp Leaders Know fully well about it

It’s a pity that the suffering masses that doesn’t enjoy anything from the government are those feeling the heat
Apc invented it and used it as a propaganda while PDP took advantage of it and enrich themselves which is what Apc is still doing now.. Apc is evil

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Re: Surviving Soldiers Accuse Military Authorities Of Procuring Obsolete Weapons by smokinggun(m): 9:50am On Nov 25, 2018
SolutionMee:
cheesy

Is that enough reason why you should intentionally submit yourselves to be killed by Boko Haram militia? Don't you guys know that you're constituting nuisance and destroying the image of this great nation abroad? My friends here were making fun of me due to your incompetence.

If at all the government weren't buying you latest ammunitions, can't you guys afford that with your salaries? At least, you're getting paid. The government will not always be there for us. Since you've vowed to defend your country in any situation, you shouldn't be too stingy to buy yourselves some riffles to get rid of a more dangerous enemy.
pls who is dis , y re u talking as if u re a baby .
Re: Surviving Soldiers Accuse Military Authorities Of Procuring Obsolete Weapons by arabbunkum: 9:52am On Nov 25, 2018
mgbadike81:
deserting the army carries a maximum of a death sentence.
It's a big lie. I know someone who ran away from the army when they were confronted by BH in the North and he is living freely here in Lagos. Don't let anyone deceive you. You can bail yourself with your legs o

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Re: Surviving Soldiers Accuse Military Authorities Of Procuring Obsolete Weapons by ifyalways(f): 9:55am On Nov 25, 2018
ifyboy60:


u can only resign when you have not been posted to the war front.
if u are in active service, u can't resign in any country.
Not true.

I know 4 people in the British army with due discharge dates of 2020, 2021 and 2019 respectively that resigned and became civilians from 2017. Yes, they have been to Afghan, Berlin and Cyprus on mission on different occasions.

They are all technically civilians( living and working as such) but are still in as " Reserves" .

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Re: Surviving Soldiers Accuse Military Authorities Of Procuring Obsolete Weapons by nokatakata: 9:55am On Nov 25, 2018
THE ONLY WAY TO STOP ALL THESE NONSENSE AMBUSH AND SUSPICIOUS ATTACKS ON OUR JUNIOR ARMY OFFICERS IS FOR BUHARI TO FORCE ALL HIS SERVICE CHIEFS INCLUDING DEFENCE MINISTER AND OTHER TOP MILITARY OFFICERS TO GO TO THE BATTLE GROUND AND JOIN THE JUNIOR OFFICERS. SINCE THEY BELIEVE THAT THEY HAVE EQUIPPED THE JUNIOR OFFICERS WITH THE LATEST AMMUNITION, LET THEM GO AND JOIN THEM. IT IS POSSIBLE THE JUNIOR OFFICERS DO NOT KNOW HOW TO USE THE AMMUNITION PROPERLY. LET THEIR OGAS LEAVE ABUJA AND GO JOIN THEM IN THE FOREST SO THEY CAN USE THEIR EXPERTISE AND EXPERIENCE.
I AM 100% SURE THAT IF THE TOP MILITARY OFFICERS ARE IN THE FORE FRONT FACING BOKO HARAM, THERE WILL NEVER EVER BE ANYTHING LIKE AMBUSH. NEVER. YOU CANNOT BE FORMING OGA IN ABUJA WHILE YOU SEND JUNIOR OFFICERS TO THE FOREST WITH USELESS AMMUNITION. GO THERE AND JOIN THEM.

I TRUST SOMEBODY LIKE PUTIN, HE WOULD HAVE SENT ALL THE GENERALS TO THE BATTLE FIELD. I DON'T JUST UNDERSTAND WHY NIGERIA IS SO FULL OF SHI.T

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Re: Surviving Soldiers Accuse Military Authorities Of Procuring Obsolete Weapons by authority2006(m): 10:01am On Nov 25, 2018
Racoon:
[s][/s]

Thrash! "Any fight against BH is a fight against the north"-M.Buhari.So don't make any excuse for him.He have nothing to offer.

Meanwhile it's his constitutional responsibility to fish them out irrespective of which factors you want to rationalize it.

The funny thing is that people like you used to defend the Federal government and the President when PDP was in power. If Atiku and PDP take over tomorrow, you will start again to defend the federal government and Atiku and start calling these soldiers unprintable names just like in the past. It is not as if you cared about them, it's always about power grabbing. It's like a cycle
Re: Surviving Soldiers Accuse Military Authorities Of Procuring Obsolete Weapons by brodalokie: 10:02am On Nov 25, 2018
misano:



Have U su*kt ur boyfriend's blokos this morning? That's Y ur mouth is talking nonsense now. Put ur hand around it until Emeka comes around to do D needful.

This is the part where scary get sexy
Re: Surviving Soldiers Accuse Military Authorities Of Procuring Obsolete Weapons by Rotimi47: 10:03am On Nov 25, 2018
Raiders:
Yes we need to do more to euipped our military but I dont agree with you that the Boko HARAM TERRORISTS are more armed than our Army. Those boko haram fighters are a poorly trained rag tag militants with some of their fighters as young as 12- 18 yrs old. The only advantage they had was they had a higher morale and were fighting with nothing to lose like a suicide fighter. The major problem is the army moral is very low and their motivation to fight is low and they dont seems to have a clear defensive strategy when under attacked. I watched the latest attack video on the military base and the terrorist were not more than 50 in number yet they were able to ransack a military base with many soldiers.
You call them rag tag as they called ISIS, Alshabab of Somali rag tag and the way Syria rebellion stated with rag tag groups.

What about Liberia NPFL and Serria Leone rebels?

They all start as a rag tap group with some of them well trained and snowball into 70 to 90% of them well trained.

Bokoharam is no longer a rag tag terrorist group; how do you label a group that is now a multinational terrorist group which have been at war with the Nigeria Military for 5years or more a rag tag group?

Have you seen the video of them driving and doing stunts with captured APCs and tanks? It takes training to do that.

These guys get free weapons from within the Military, Nigeria and from across the border and it not about the number of weapons you have or your budget but the quality of the weapons and men being deployed by 2 opposing groups.

The group that deploys the right weapons and men with the right morale and training to the right terrain wins over 90% of the engagement and not tanks, missile, heavy field guns and men with low morale in the wrong place.

Please note that the fight against Bokoharam is taken place on an area that is full of red sand and sand is responsible for jaming loaders on tanks and other guns if it gets into it.

Furthermore, sand also make engines breakdown if it gets into it; Bokoharam majorly make use of AA guns mounted on pickup truck, they also use tanks, APCs, RPGs, mortals and artillery captured and the ones they got on their own.

Finally, Bokoharam have retired and serving military, police, customs, civil defence, immigration,politicians, civilian Jtf and even civilians among them and they get external government and non government support.
Have you heard that helicopters drops supplies to Bokoharam fighters? Do you still think the Military is up against a rag tag terrorist organisation which attack Chad, Niger and Cameroon whenever they like and none have been able to effectively defeat or destroy them.

Bokoharam have grown from a rag tag terrorist group to something more deadly than ever before. They are trained; Some of their videos show their training.
Re: Surviving Soldiers Accuse Military Authorities Of Procuring Obsolete Weapons by authority2006(m): 10:04am On Nov 25, 2018
ifyboy60:


u can only resign when you have not been posted to the war front.
if u are in active service, u can't resign in any country.


ifyalways:

Not true.

I know 4 people in the British army with due discharge dates of 2020, 2021 and 2019 respectively that resigned and became civilians from 2017. Yes, they have been to Afghan, Berlin and Cyprus on mission on different occasions.

They are all technically civilians( living and working as such) but are still in as " Reserves" .

You haven't disproved what he said. Read his comment again.
Re: Surviving Soldiers Accuse Military Authorities Of Procuring Obsolete Weapons by ifyalways(f): 10:05am On Nov 25, 2018
authority2006:




You haven't disproved what he said. Read his comment again.
You are right. smiley
Re: Surviving Soldiers Accuse Military Authorities Of Procuring Obsolete Weapons by Born2Breed(f): 10:07am On Nov 25, 2018
.Buhari is a killer.

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Re: Surviving Soldiers Accuse Military Authorities Of Procuring Obsolete Weapons by wanger50(m): 10:07am On Nov 25, 2018
Babacele:
in this context, I don't think so ma.
She's absolutely correct. Fact is the Chadians pulled out of the northern corridor and the terrorists, with their advanced intelligence exploited the loophole.Ask yourself how the South African mercenaries hired by GEJ were able to push back the terrorist far afield in a period of less than six months,using same weapons those guys are lamenting about. Matter of fact is the army is filled with soldiers selected on the basis of political patronage rather than natural endowments and abilities
Re: Surviving Soldiers Accuse Military Authorities Of Procuring Obsolete Weapons by almangid(m): 10:09am On Nov 25, 2018
And if person talk now dem go sey na hate speech or na fake news
Re: Surviving Soldiers Accuse Military Authorities Of Procuring Obsolete Weapons by AFONJACOW(m): 10:14am On Nov 25, 2018
since 2015 the lifeless clown sai Barbar took over, we are yet to see any Boko Haram Terrorist or it sponsor arrested and face trial, rather the lifeless clown in Aso Rock and his incompetent aides were busy releasing captured terrorist and compensating them with million of dollars... Jubrin is a known terrorist in Sudan,

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Re: Surviving Soldiers Accuse Military Authorities Of Procuring Obsolete Weapons by SenatorBudoma: 10:18am On Nov 25, 2018
dokie:

So a soldier cannot resign?

It is a voluntary organisation. So any soldier can resign if they wish.

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Re: Surviving Soldiers Accuse Military Authorities Of Procuring Obsolete Weapons by negbike(f): 10:18am On Nov 25, 2018
And Daddy Freeze is there blaming Pastors for the military not having proper weapons rather than addressing the government.


sarrki:



http://thenationonlineng.net/metele-attack-surviving-soldiers-accuse-military-authorities-of-procuring-obsolete-weapons/



Re: Surviving Soldiers Accuse Military Authorities Of Procuring Obsolete Weapons by SenatorBudoma: 10:19am On Nov 25, 2018
dokie:

So a soldier cannot resign?

It is a voluntary organisation. So any soldier can resign if they wish.
Re: Surviving Soldiers Accuse Military Authorities Of Procuring Obsolete Weapons by emmanuelpopson(m): 10:23am On Nov 25, 2018
Venerable612:
Followed this news keenly.

The BH attack was successful because they disguised in army apparels and caught the NA unawares. SuggesTs;

1. There are moles/informants supplying the B information and wears in the NA.

2. The desert is too wide and very difficult to defend.

It’s obvious they need to fortify their base with defence walls and high watch post like we see in movies. All in coming vehicles must confirm identity from a 1km radius or it’s shot down with a missile.

Secondly, we need help from foreign troops. These Boko guys are getting help from ISIS and soon they may start thinking of coming into the south/west/east. If foreign troops can join the NA they can cover more grounds technically and man power wise - that desert is so huge.

We just need to tackle this shit headon before it escalates. We must start by voting out Buhari, he is clueless already!!




But your assertions are logically flawed.

1. You can’t KNOW that there are no moles; unless you work in the NA and you have done internal intelligence to confirm your hypothesis. In principle - Yoruba says “bi Ogun ile o ba Jani, tita o le jani”. It makes it more likely that some people are sabotaging the war by assisting BH.

2. I don’t know much about the span of Iraq desert’s... but I am glad you mentioned alqaeda war. Those guys were chased out following helpss from foreign troops; American and UN soldiers specifically. He Sambisa forest spans about 4 different territories with lots of trees and caves. It’s so vast... we obviously need so foreign help and intelligence. Our machineries and personnel are obsolete!


its a pity that NA army are been taken to the drains with a ragtag BH that are primitive until recently... what happened to the $1b Buhari collected and budget for the fight..
I think you are right in the sense that some people are happy this war is ongoing.. they are making monies and smiling to the bank
. military hardwares like drones, Tanks ,Missiles etc that could have. been deployed to fight this on.aerial surveillance.. but i don't understand how peoples lives are wasted..

the solution

UAVs that can capture tens of kilometers aerially should be deployed
Sophisticated hardwares like Tanks and guns,RPGs should be purchased
the moles in the NA should be fished out and prosecuted
the service chiefs should be sacked and replaced ASAP...
govt should investigate the budget of the army prosecute erring misappropriation of the funds...
the welfare of the soldiers should be Paramount and drastic..

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Re: Surviving Soldiers Accuse Military Authorities Of Procuring Obsolete Weapons by AFONJACOW(m): 10:26am On Nov 25, 2018
Venerable612:
Followed this news keenly.

The BH attack was successful because they disguised in army apparels and caught the NA unawares. SuggesTs;

1. There are moles/informants supplying the B information and wears in the NA.

2. The desert is too wide and very difficult to defend.

It’s obvious they need to fortify their base with defence walls and high watch post like we see in movies. All in coming vehicles must confirm identity from a 1km radius or it’s shot down with a missile.

Secondly, we need help from foreign troops. These Boko guys are getting help from ISIS and soon they may start thinking of coming into the south/west/east. If foreign troops can join the NA they can cover more grounds technically and man power wise - that desert is so huge.

We just need to tackle this shit headon before it escalates. We must start by voting out Buhari, he is clueless already!!




But your assertions are logically flawed.

1. You can’t KNOW that there are no moles; unless you work in the NA and you have done internal intelligence to confirm your hypothesis. In principle - Yoruba says “bi Ogun ile o ba Jani, tita o le jani”. It makes it more likely that some people are sabotaging the war by assisting BH.

2. I don’t know much about the span of Iraq desert’s... but I am glad you mentioned alqaeda war. Those guys were chased out following helpss from foreign troops; American and UN soldiers specifically. He Sambisa forest spans about 4 different territories with lots of trees and caves. It’s so vast... we obviously need so foreign help and intelligence. Our machineries and personnel are obsolete!
how vast is sambisa forest that they can't turn it to burial ground, since NK (North Korea ) are looking for tasting site for their missiles, why not dash them borno state so they can clear them once and for all with nuclear Bomb, losing 3 Northern state out of 36 states of Nigeria is not a bad idea, in fact Russia and North Korea can jointly use North east as their tasting site

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Re: Surviving Soldiers Accuse Military Authorities Of Procuring Obsolete Weapons by brodalokie: 10:26am On Nov 25, 2018
Rotimi47:
You call them rag tag as they called ISIS, Alshabab of Somali rag tag and the way Syria rebellion stated with rag tag groups.

What about Liberia NPFL and Serria Leone rebels?

They all start as a rag tap group with some of them well trained and snowball into 70 to 90% of them well trained.

Bokoharam is no longer a rag tag terrorist group; how do you label a group that is now a multinational terrorist group which have been at war with the Nigeria Military for 5years or more a rag tag group?

Have you seen the video of them driving and doing stunts with captured APCs and tanks? It takes training to do that.

These guys get free weapons from within the Military, Nigeria and from across the border and it not about the number of weapons you have or your budget but the quality of the weapons and men being deployed by 2 opposing groups.

The group that deploys the right weapons and men with the right morale and training to the right terrain wins over 90% of the engagement and not tanks, missile, heavy field guns and men with low morale in the wrong place.

Please note that the fight against Bokoharam is taken place on an area that is full of red sand and sand is responsible for jaming loaders on tanks and other guns if it gets into it.

Furthermore, sand also make engines breakdown if it gets into it; Bokoharam majorly make use of AA guns mounted on pickup truck, they also use tanks, APCs, RPGs, mortals and artillery captured and the ones they got on their own.

Finally, Bokoharam have retired and serving military, police, customs, civil defence, immigration,politicians, civilian Jtf and even civilians among them and they get external government and non government support.
Have you heard that helicopters drops supplies to Bokoharam fighters? Do you still think the Military is up against a rag tag terrorist organisation which attack Chad, Niger and Cameroon whenever they like and none have been able to effectively defeat or destroy them.

Bokoharam have grown from a rag tag terrorist group to something more deadly than ever before. They are trained; Some of their videos show their training.

Boko Haram can not be a multinational terrorist organization. They're core agenda is fighting against foreign influence. Like the deltan river thugs they are INDIGENous to the Northeast Nigeria and can not survive a foreign political merger
Re: Surviving Soldiers Accuse Military Authorities Of Procuring Obsolete Weapons by dejol88: 10:26am On Nov 25, 2018
Venerable612:
Followed this news keenly.

The BH attack was successful because they disguised in army apparels and caught the NA unawares. SuggesTs;

1. There are moles/informants supplying the B information and wears in the NA.

2. The desert is too wide and very difficult to defend.

It’s obvious they need to fortify their base with defence walls and high watch post like we see in movies. All in coming vehicles must confirm identity from a 1km radius or it’s shot down with a missile.

Secondly, we need help from foreign troops. These Boko guys are getting help from ISIS and soon they may start thinking of coming into the south/west/east. If foreign troops can join the NA they can cover more grounds technically and man power wise - that desert is so huge.

We just need to tackle this shit headon before it escalates. We must start by voting out Buhari, he is clueless already!!




But your assertions are logically flawed.

1. You can’t KNOW that there are no moles; unless you work in the NA and you have done internal intelligence to confirm your hypothesis. In principle - Yoruba says “bi Ogun ile o ba Jani, tita o le jani”. It makes it more likely that some people are sabotaging the war by assisting BH.

2. I don’t know much about the span of Iraq desert’s... but I am glad you mentioned alqaeda war. Those guys were chased out following helpss from foreign troops; American and UN soldiers specifically. He Sambisa forest spans about 4 different territories with lots of trees and caves. It’s so vast... we obviously need so foreign help and intelligence. Our machineries and personnel are obsolete!
I read somewhere that the minister of info , pleaded with journalist to under report the BH activities . If that report is true then it is safe to say this government is an accomplice .
Maybe if the media have been reporting events on the theatre of operation Nigerians would have been would be able to intervene by pressurising the govt to live up to expectations .

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Re: Surviving Soldiers Accuse Military Authorities Of Procuring Obsolete Weapons by okayman4real(m): 10:27am On Nov 25, 2018
[i]Is that enough reason why you should intentionally submit yourselves to be killed by Boko Haram militia? Don't you guys know that you're constituting nuisance and destroying the image of this great nation abroad? My friends here were making fun of me due to your incompetence.

If at all the government weren't buying you latest ammunitions, can't you guys afford that with your salaries? At least, you're getting paid. The government will not always be there for us. Since you've vowed to defend your country in any situation, you shouldn't be too stingy to buy yourselves some riffles to get rid of a more dangerous enemy.
Re: Surviving Soldiers Accuse Military Authorities Of Procuring Obsolete Weapons by pascal12345: 10:30am On Nov 25, 2018
Call for sure odds 08134334189

Re: Surviving Soldiers Accuse Military Authorities Of Procuring Obsolete Weapons by Bambambiglo: 10:41am On Nov 25, 2018
sarrki:
There is more to this Boko-Haram carnage


Both Apc and Pdp Leaders Know fully well about it

It’s a pity that the suffering masses that doesn’t enjoy anything from the government are those feeling the heat

ZOMBIE
Re: Surviving Soldiers Accuse Military Authorities Of Procuring Obsolete Weapons by chukwukadi(m): 10:42am On Nov 25, 2018
Dasuki ate the weapons
Re: Surviving Soldiers Accuse Military Authorities Of Procuring Obsolete Weapons by imam07: 10:45am On Nov 25, 2018
IamD18:
Why didn't you cowards complain and accuse the military authorities from procuring obsolete weapons when you were killing innocent citizens and calling it Python dance.

The result of curses and prayers from the loved ones of those you lots killed are beginning to manifest. Ogbu nma ga ala na nma.


Thunder from Okija shrine scatter una mouth there.
do u realise there are many ibo souldier dat died too. So u need to lament wit ur senses. Were d ibos souldier dat died are animals?
Re: Surviving Soldiers Accuse Military Authorities Of Procuring Obsolete Weapons by mvem(m): 10:46am On Nov 25, 2018
Racoon:
After the the propaganda by Lai Mohammed/APC government that our troops are being adequately taken care of & the fraudulent $1B counter insurgency funds; the army is using obsolete equipments while the corruption goes on & poor hapless soldiers continued to suffer for it?

Guess they soldiers have simply taken the lies and propaganda of the government back to it? You can never run away from your shadow.Karma is real.
Meanwhile read one of the early complaints of these soldiers here;

http://saharareporters.com/2018/08/27/borno-soldier-writes-buhari-about-%E2%80%98deadly-lethal-gruesome%E2%80%99-corruption-army-generals

...but it is the same absolete equipment Boko Haram carries from them after every attack and uses it for further attacks....
Re: Surviving Soldiers Accuse Military Authorities Of Procuring Obsolete Weapons by Reference(m): 10:59am On Nov 25, 2018
MajorJeffery:
One can be discharged earlier but the process may likely take longer than the contract itself unless one has serious physical or psychological issue.
It's just like having a case at an election tribunal for four years, what's the use?

The laws or will I say edicts are fluid. Even mandatory retirement on grounds of age can be adjusted by military high command if and a big IF operational requirements specify. In summary, if the military is understaffed and demand for operational capacity is high they will make things difficult for soldiers, airmen and sailors to leave. And bring all the laws to back it up.

I don't know how far the boko haram crises is stretching the armed forces at the moment but there have been periods during the Obasanjo regime and during the Babangida regime (when I left) when you could retire on the flip of a coin. After Liberia there was a lot of reorganisation and some of my pals and I who were fortumate l to be alive left.

I will anticipate it will be hard to.leave now but once this conflict is over the armed forces will find itself over supllied and over manned and will probably nudge people to leave.
Re: Surviving Soldiers Accuse Military Authorities Of Procuring Obsolete Weapons by kunkelhanspeter(m): 11:05am On Nov 25, 2018
Wish and pray the southern soldiers will just leave the zoo Amy and come me back home let me see if they will allow Northern Muslim soldiers to go and die like fowl

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