Asalam Alaykum

I saw on Wikipedia that Caliph Abu Bakr (May Allah be pleased with him) said this:

Women will no longer be able to give
birth to the likes of Khalid bin Al-Waleed.

Someone said it was narrated by Ibn Kathir in Al Bidaya Wa Nihaya

I know Abu Bakr was not a prophet and did not receive revelations.

So is that statement a prophecy or just a way of praising the great Sahabi Khalid ibn Walid?

Wa alaikum salam warahmatuLLaahi wabarakaatuh

firstly, did Wikipedia post the source of the sentence claimed to be from Abu Bakr (R. A) ?

That should be verified first.

Secondly, if perhaps it was said by Abu bakr (R. A), it's obvious what he meant was no-one could be as brave as Khalid Ibn Walid again as we all know that Khalid Ibn Walid is a great commander the likes of which has never been produced again. The greatest general in History.

ALLāhu a'alam

AbdulHakeem44:
Wa alaikum salam warahmatuLLaahi wabarakaatuh

firstly, did Wikipedia post the source of the sentence claimed to be from Abu Bakr (R. A) ?

That should be verified first.

Secondly, if perhaps it was said by Abu bakr (R. A), it's obvious what he meant was no-one could be as brave as Khalid Ibn Walid again as we all know that Khalid Ibn Walid is a great commander the likes of which has never been produced again. The greatest general in History.

ALLāhu a'alam

meaning he was praising him and not a prophecy right?

OladimejiRufai:


meaning he was praising him and not a prophecy right?

Not necessarily a prophecy. It should be simply understood as a praise. There is actually a book written about him. Khalid bin Al-Waleed was one of the greatest generals in history, and one of the greatest heroes of Islam. about whom the Prophet of Islam (SAW) said:


‘What an excellent slave of Allah: Khalid bin Al-Waleed, one of the swords of Allah, unleashed against the unbelievers!’, [Tirmidhi and Ahmad from Abu Hurayrah, Sahih Al-Jami’ Al-Saghir No. 6776]


And about Whom Abu Bakr (RA) said


‘Women will no longer be able to give birth to the likes of Khalid bin Al-Waleed.’ (Ibn Kathir, Al-Bidayah wan-Nihayah,



The original title of the book, “The Sword of Allah: Khalid bin Al-Waleed, His Life and Campaigns” was written by the late Lieutenant-General A.I. Akram of the Pakistan Army, in October 1969. The author learnt Arabic in order to draw on the earliest historical sources and he visited every one of Khalid’s battlefields in order to draw analyses from the viewpoint of military strategy, including reconciling conflicting historians’ accounts. The book was originally published by the Army Education Press, Rawalpindi, Pakistan and printed by Feroze Sons Publishers in Lahore, Pakistan. The excellence of the book was such that it has been translated from English into Arabic and is currently sold in bookshops throughout the Arab World.

OladimejiRufai:


meaning he was praising him and not a prophecy right?

Yes of course, Abu bakr (RodiyaLLahu an'hu) didn't prophecy because that will means he is claiming to have the knowledge of the unseen which automatically amounts to kufr. We all know he can't do that, So praise is what he meant.

AbdulHakeem44:


Yes of course, Abu bakr (RodiyaLLahu an'hu) didn't prophecy because that will means he is claiming to have the knowledge of the unseen which automatically amounts to kufr. We all know he can't do that, So praise is what he meant.

Lol.. "prophecy" automatically amounts to kufr

Well, when prophets(Allah bless them) prophesied it is called prophecy. But it doesn't stop there. Sahaba were given basira and firasa(spiritual accume or insight) but we just need to properly choose choice of word. Therefore, after prophet muhammad(saw) there is no more prophecy but there will continue to be inspirations or spiritual insight. In islamic terminology it is called "basira", "firasa". I dont need to quote anything. We know sahaba seen upcoming events. Is this kufr?. But the way christians throw "prophecy" around is off. So "prediction" is more appropriate.

Sheikhul Islam Ibn Taymiyyah(ra) seen future event of the attack on muslims by mongols. Let's come down to our Nigeria. Sheikh Adam(ra) warned Awolowo when the former contested for head of state. Sheikh Adam said if you accept islam you will win but if you dont accept islam you will lose your presidential bid. Awolowo refused islam and lost.

Finally, nabi(saw) himself said there will remain on earth nabuwat(prophethood). The 46th part of prophethood which is true dreams and true vision. All these are kufr?. Obviously in my opinion, statement attributed to Abu Bakr appears to be praise than "prophecy". Even Bees receive inspiration as we speak.

Empiree:
Not necessarily a prophecy. It should be simply understood as a praise. There is actually a book written about him. Khalid bin Al-Waleed was one of the greatest generals in history, and one of the greatest heroes of Islam. about whom the Prophet of Islam (SAW) said:


‘What an excellent slave of Allah: Khalid bin Al-Waleed, one of the swords of Allah, unleashed against the unbelievers!’, [Tirmidhi and Ahmad from Abu Hurayrah, Sahih Al-Jami’ Al-Saghir No. 6776]


And about Whom Abu Bakr (RA) said


‘Women will no longer be able to give birth to the likes of Khalid bin Al-Waleed.’ (Ibn Kathir, Al-Bidayah wan-Nihayah,



The original title of the book, “The Sword of Allah: Khalid bin Al-Waleed, His Life and Campaigns” was written by the late Lieutenant-General A.I. Akram of the Pakistan Army, in October 1969. The author learnt Arabic in order to draw on the earliest historical sources and he visited every one of Khalid’s battlefields in order to draw analyses from the viewpoint of military strategy, including reconciling conflicting historians’ accounts. The book was originally published by the Army Education Press, Rawalpindi, Pakistan and printed by Feroze Sons Publishers in Lahore, Pakistan. The excellence of the book was such that it has been translated from English into Arabic and is currently sold in bookshops throughout the Arab World.

Jazak'allahu Khayran

AbdulHakeem44:


Yes of course, Abu bakr (RodiyaLLahu an'hu) didn't prophecy because that will means he is claiming to have the knowledge of the unseen which automatically amounts to kufr. We all know he can't do that, So praise is what he meant.

Jazak'allahu Khayran

Empiree:
Lol.. "prophecy" automatically amounts to kufr

Well, when prophets(Allah bless them) prophesied it is called prophecy. But it doesn't stop there. Sahaba were given basira and firasa(spiritual accume or insight) but we just need to properly choose choice of word. Therefore, after prophet muhammad(saw) there is no more prophecy but there will continue to be inspirations or spiritual insight. In islamic terminology it is called "basira", "firasa". I dont need to quote anything. We know sahaba seen upcoming events. Is this kufr?. But the way christians throw "prophecy" around is off. So "prediction" is more appropriate.

Sheikhul Islam Ibn Taymiyyah(ra) seen future event of the attack on muslims by mongols. Let's come down to our Nigeria. Sheikh Adam(ra) warned Awolowo when the former contested for head of state. Sheikh Adam said if you accept islam you will win but if you dont accept islam you will lose your presidential bid. Awolowo refused islam and lost.

Finally, nabi(saw) himself said there will remain on earth nabuwat(prophethood). The 46th part of prophethood which is true dreams and true vision. All these are kufr?. Obviously in my opinion, statement attributed to Abu Bakr appears to be praise than "prophecy". Even Bees receive inspiration as we speak.

I know abt what u say

it is part of Karaamah that can happen to Awliya of Allaah

it is also called intiution in english and that is a more appropiate word than prophecy to use

it was something known well with people like Umar and Shaykh ibn Taymiyyah but it can happen to any Waliy of Allaah

But the major prophecy which is receiving revelations like the Prophet used to receive from Jubril was stopped after the death of the prophet and that may be the kind of prophecy AbdulHakeem was talking about.

Empiree:
Lol.. "prophecy" automatically amounts to kufr

Well, when prophets(Allah bless them) prophesied it is called prophecy. But it doesn't stop there. Sahaba were given basira and firasa(spiritual accume or insight) but we just need to properly choose choice of word. Therefore, after prophet muhammad(saw) there is no more prophecy but there will continue to be inspirations or spiritual insight. In islamic terminology it is called "basira", "firasa". I dont need to quote anything. We know sahaba seen upcoming events. Is this kufr?. But the way christians throw "prophecy" around is off. So "prediction" is more appropriate.

Sheikhul Islam Ibn Taymiyyah(ra) seen future event of the attack on muslims by mongols. Let's come down to our Nigeria. Sheikh Adam(ra) warned Awolowo when the former contested for head of state. Sheikh Adam said if you accept islam you will win but if you dont accept islam you will lose your presidential bid. Awolowo refused islam and lost.

Finally, nabi(saw) himself said there will remain on earth nabuwat(prophethood). The 46th part of prophethood which is true dreams and true vision. All these are kufr?. Obviously in my opinion, statement attributed to Abu Bakr appears to be praise than "prophecy". Even Bees receive inspiration as we speak.

Lolxxxxx, funniest comment of the year. All what you wrote here is nonsense raise to power ten. Basira ko Nafisa ni. As for Sheikhul Islam and Sheikh Adam, that is prediction, which may or may not happen. When fitna is approaching, the first to sense it are the scholars because of their knowledge not useless spiritual inspiration. Is it Angel Jubreel (A. S) that is been sent to inspire man or who, where's your evidence.
Man can only predict (likely outcome) which may or may not happen, Revelations, prophecies, inspirations are for the prophets. Claiming to prophecy, inspired by ALLāh through his Angels or receiving revelations when not a Nabiy or Rasul is kufr.

Am not surprised, u re suffi, it's part of their creed.

AbdulHakeem44:


Lolxxxxx, funniest comment of the year. All what you wrote here is nonsense raise to power ten. Basira ko Nafisa ni. As for Sheikhul Islam and Sheikh Adam, that is prediction, which may or may not happen. When fitna is approaching, the first to sense it are the scholars because of their knowledge not useless spiritual inspiration. Is it Angel Jubreel (A. S) that is been sent to inspire man or who, where's your evidence.
Man can only predict (likely outcome) which may or may not happen, Revelations, prophecies, inspirations are for the prophets. Claiming to prophecy, inspired by ALLāh through his Angels or receiving revelations when not a Nabiy or Rasul is kufr.

Am not surprised, u re suffi, it's part of their creed.

Brother calm down

i understand u. i understand hw u feel

The true Islam had been so altered and deviated from so much so it requires strict adherence to Sunnah

but still take it easy

Brother truly there is something like Intuition

Did u not see what the Prophet himself said abt Umar that if there was going to be any Prophet after him, it will be Umar

Do u not know it is because of how much intuition or vision that Allaah used to cause Umar to see or have that caused the Prophet to say so abt him

Have not heard abt an incident where Shaykh Ibm Taymiyyah said something was going to happen in the future and he SWORE to it seventy times or more?

Do u not see that it was because of how sure he was abt it that made him swear to it seventy times?

Brother Karaamah (Miracle) of the awliya is real and it happens. it just that it must be narrated from a trustworthy source for us to believe it

and aside that there are true dreams as well

Proven by various hadith of the Prophet is that there will be dreams that come from Allaah which will come true

An hadith also says that there is a part of prophecy which Allaah left after the Prophet death which is true dreams

another hadith says that when the world is close to its end , hardly will the dream of a believer be false. and this is because the people of that time will be having lower faith compared tp the Sahabah and Allaah will suffice them with true dreams tp keep them firm upon faith

so brother if there are some incorrect things in empiree statement, it is not total nonsense like u claimed

there are correct things there

take it easy bro and educate urself

do research abt true dreams, karaamah and intuition

AbdulHakeem44:


Lolxxxxx, funniest comment of the year. All what you wrote here is nonsense raise to power ten. Basira ko Nafisa ni. As for Sheikhul Islam and Sheikh Adam, that is prediction, which may or may not happen. When fitna is approaching, the first to sense it are the scholars because of their knowledge not useless spiritual inspiration. Is it Angel Jubreel (A. S) that is been sent to inspire man or who, where's your evidence.
Man can only predict (likely outcome) which may or may not happen, Revelations, prophecies, inspirations are for the prophets. Claiming to prophecy, inspired by ALLāh through his Angels or receiving revelations when not a Nabiy or Rasul is kufr.

Am not surprised, u re suffi, it's part of their creed.

I don't expect better performance from you. Shaking my head. Is it only scholars Allah bestowed be"likely outcome" of event as you put it?. It can be anyone loved by Allah. There are bunch of scholars with zero baseera/firasa.

Obviously you have rejected this Hadith. I decided not to quote so that you can make fool of yourself. You said basira kó nafisa ni which is tantamount to mocking the prophet (saw). Basirah is inner light or light in the heart. This light is not your light bulb in your bedroom. It is important that I clarify because I can sense your low level aql. Light we taking about can not be bought at a stock market. Rather, it is only Allah that can bestow this light on your heart. Obviously you do not have this light. If you do, you would have understood what basirah/firasa mean. Just because you offer daily salat and abide by all fard of Islam doesn't mean you have firasa. Basirat is achieved only by Taqwa

Our beloved Prophet ﷺ said, “Beware of the firasat (acumen, acuteness) of mu’min for he sees through the noor (light) of Allah.” The mu’min has the noor of Allah ﷻ and he sees through it.


The Prophet (SAW) has spoken about it and said, ‘Beware of the Firasah of a believer, for he sees with the light and guidance of Allah’. (Recorded by Imam Tirmizi).


According to the scholars, Firasah is that inspiration which Allah places in the hearts of His beloved servants (the Awliya) through which they are able to recognize and know different states of people. This is based sometimes on a miracle, a correct thought, an insight or a correct assumption.

Firasah also refers to that knowledge which is achieved through the means of experience and experiment, or that which is known by looking at the lives of people and their conduct. (Tuhfatul Ahwazi vol.8 pg 533).


And also happened in Yorubland in case you don't know. One of the Sufi shuyukh I don't remember his name in old days was captured by brutal king who said he would spare his life on condition that he pass this test.

The test was that the king bought a big white cow and locked it in garage. Beheaders were ready to take his head off if he failed e test. King came out and told him about the cow without revealing it's color. He said if this waliy can predict color of the cow correctly his life would be saved but if he got it wrong he would be killed.

This waliy's crime was only that he came to preach Islam to them and they taunted him and arrested him. King said if he got the answer right, he and his people would accept Islam. This waliy did not see the cow. Color of the cow was actually white.

But upon answer the king, waliy said cow is black. The king was happy that "you dead today". He ordered his men to bring the cow to aafin. By the time they got there cow had turn black. They called the king and the king was amazed and he took Shahadatain.

This is called firasatul mumin also known as baseera or similar. This story was not narrated by Sufi. It was narrated by your salafi brother named sheik imran abdulmajeed eleha in Texas few years ago. He narrated this story to bring attention of people like you to Islamic spirituality. If you want to confirm the story, simply go and ask him. I can't tell you title of the lecture but it was done in Texas, USA and possibly still on YouTube.


Do you think Allah was not with those baba back in the days?. You must be joking. Allah aided them against kufar of their time. So yes, we have baseera in Islam. We also have 1/46 part of nabuwat which remains in the world today but hard to come by except to waliy most of whom are Sufis. Like it or hate it. I know Sufi is your problem. Suck it up. Go and look for hadith of nabuwat. That's your homework. It doesn't mean whoever is blessed with this is a prophet. No.


Muʿjiza is to the prophet while karama is to waliy. So baseerat/firasa are karamat of waliy. Waliy don't prophesize but predict. Kufar may also have it.

OladimejiRufai:


Brother calm down

i understand u. i understand hw u feel

The true Islam had been so altered and deviated from so much so it requires strict adherence to Sunnah

but still take it easy

Brother truly there is something like Intuition

Did u not see what the Prophet himself said abt Umar that if there was going to be any Prophet after him, it will be Umar

Do u not know it is because of how much intuition or vision that Allaah used to cause Umar to see or have that caused the Prophet to say so abt him

Have not heard abt an incident where Shaykh Ibm Taymiyyah said something was going to happen in the future and he SWORE to it seventy times or more?

Do u not see that it was because of how sure he was abt it that made him swear to it seventy times?

Brother Karaamah (Miracle) of the awliya is real and it happens. it just that it must be narrated from a trustworthy source for us to believe it

and aside that there are true dreams as well

Proven by various hadith of the Prophet is that there will be dreams that come from Allaah which will come true

An hadith also says that there is a part of prophecy which Allaah left after the Prophet death which is true dreams

another hadith says that when the world is close to its end , hardly will the dream of a believer be false. and this is because the people of that time will be having lower faith compared tp the Sahabah and Allaah will suffice them with true dreams tp keep them firm upon faith

so brother if there are some incorrect things in empiree statement, it is not total nonsense like u claimed

there are correct things there

take it easy bro and educate urself

do research abt true dreams, karaamah and intuition

Thank you. He allows "Sufi" to cloud his judgement. That's what many of them do. Once they realized your ideology is of Sufi they reject everything you have to say. Just because some people do mad things today does not mean we have to throw everything away. The manhaj these lazy muslims profess and preach today is lazy man methodology.

They want to deprive Muslims of Islamic spirituality. They have have this virus injected in them which is virus of superiority over other muslims. And I have not part of any Sufi group. They chose to force it on me. And I have no problem with it any Sufi for as long as they are true to Qur'an and Sunnah. Kitab and Sunnah is not just about reading books. Saying it and doing it are two different things. Sufis do both.

Empiree:
I don't expect better performance from you. Shaking my head. Is it only scholars Allah bestowed be"likely outcome" of event as you put it?. It can be anyone loved by Allah. There are bunch of scholars with zero baseera/firasa.

Obviously you have rejected this Hadith. I decided not to quote so that you can make fool of yourself. You said basira kó nafisa ni which is tantamount to mocking the prophet (saw). Basirah is inner light or light in the heart. This light is not your light bulb in your bedroom. It is important that I clarify because I can sense your low level aql. Light we taking about can not be bought at a stock market. Rather, it is only Allah that can bestow this light on your heart. Obviously you do not have this light. If you do, you would have understood what basirah/firasa mean. Just because you offer daily salat and abide by all fard of Islam doesn't mean you have firasa. Basirat is achieved only by Taqwa

Our beloved Prophet ﷺ said, “Beware of the firasat (acumen, acuteness) of mu’min for he sees through the noor (light) of Allah.” The mu’min has the noor of Allah ﷻ and he sees through it.


The Prophet (SAW) has spoken about it and said, ‘Beware of the Firasah of a believer, for he sees with the light and guidance of Allah’. (Recorded by Imam Tirmizi).


According to the scholars, Firasah is that inspiration which Allah places in the hearts of His beloved servants (the Awliya) through which they are able to recognize and know different states of people. This is based sometimes on a miracle, a correct thought, an insight or a correct assumption.

Firasah also refers to that knowledge which is achieved through the means of experience and experiment, or that which is known by looking at the lives of people and their conduct. (Tuhfatul Ahwazi vol.8 pg 533).


And also happened in Yorubland in case you don't know. One of the Sufi shuyukh I don't remember his name in old days was captured by brutal king who said he would spare his life on condition that he pass this test.

The test was that the king bought a big white cow and locked it in garage. Beheaders were ready to take his head off if he failed e test. King came out and told him about the cow without revealing it's color. He said if this waliy can predict color of the cow correctly his life would be saved but if he got it wrong he would be killed.

This waliy's crime was only that he came to preach Islam to them and they taunted him and arrested him. King said if he got the answer right, he and his people would accept Islam. This waliy did not see the cow. Color of the cow was actually white.

But upon answer the king, waliy said cow is black. The king was happy that "you dead today". He ordered his men to bring the cow to aafin. By the time they got there cow had turn black. They called the king and the king was amazed and he took Shahadatain.

This is called firasatul mumin also known as baseera or similar. This story was not narrated by Sufi. It was narrated by your salafi brother named sheik imran abdulmajeed eleha in Texas few years ago. He narrated this story to bring attention of people like you to Islamic spirituality. If you want to confirm the story, simply go and ask him. I can't tell you title of the lecture but it was done in Texas, USA and possibly still on YouTube.


Do you think Allah was not with those baba back in the days?. You must be joking. Allah aided them against kufar of their time. So yes, we have baseera in Islam. We also have 1/46 part of nabuwat which remains in the world today but hard to come by except to waliy most of whom are Sufis. Like it or hate it. I know Sufi is your problem. Suck it up. Go and look for hadith of nabuwat. That's your homework. It doesn't mean whoever is blessed with this is a prophet. No.


Muʿjiza is to the prophet while karama is to waliy. So baseerat/firasa are karamat of waliy. Waliy don't prophesize but predict. Kufar may also have it.

I didn't expect something meaningful from you aside twisted evidences like I said earlier. There is karama for the waliyullāh, yes I agreed, who are the waliyullāh, the suffis? joke of the century. No wonder u have a twisted meaning.of karama.

Am sorry I don't listen to imran eleha, he is half sunnah half suffi, imran is not my kitab wa sunnah bifahm salafus soliheen.

I do not have time to reply your long nonsense of suffiya. your answer is here
https://islamqa.info/en/answers/12778/intuition

AbdulHakeem44:


I didn't expect something meaningful from you aside twisted evidences like I said earlier. There is karama for the waliyullāh, yes I agreed, who are the waliyullāh, the suffis? joke of the century. No wonder u have a twisted meaning.of karama.

Am sorry I don't listen to imran eleha, he is half sunnah half suffi, imran is not my kitab wa sunnah bifahm salafus soliheen.

I do not have time to reply your long nonsense of suffiya. your answer is here
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kikikiki imran eleha is half Sufi...half Sunnah. That's funny. You are just like abdlkabir and abdulfatai sarumi. They said the same thing. Awón alainikanse

Tell us ooo which of your scholars in history had karama attached to them up until this moment?. In Nigeria and most around the world they were Sufis.

Sahaba were Sufis. What you should have said was that Sufi of today are not like those of yesterday. That would have been sincerity on your part. I know most of you got your ideology from Islamqa because that's the only muslim according to you. Anybody else is bidiah and shirk. Nonsense. So what's the difference between you and that plumber guy now?. I have said many times there is no difference between you guys. He's just extraordinarily extreme and sincere about it by making it plain. But you hide yours like your fellow brothers.

Empiree:
kikikiki imran eleha is half Sufi...half Sunnah. That's funny. You are just like abdlkabir and abdulfatai sarumi. They said the same thing. Awón alainikanse

Tell us ooo which of your scholars in history had karama attached to them up until this moment?. In Nigeria and most around the world they were Sufis.

Sahaba were Sufis. What you should have said was that Sufi of today are not like those of yesterday. That would have been sincerity on your part. I know most of you got your ideology from Islamqa because that's the only muslim according to you. Anybody else is bidiah and shirk. Nonsense. So what's the difference between you and that plumber guy now?. I have said many times there is no difference between you guys. He's just extraordinarily extreme and sincere about it by making it plain. But you hide yours like your fellow brothers.

Lolxxxxx, keep living in denial. Sohabas were suffis,cant stop laughing. Karama isn't something to make big deal of, because if care is not taking, it can sway people away from Deen. A good example is the mujizah of Prophet Sulaimon,people were amazed by his ALLāh given power and because of that, they went to learn sihr. No waliyullāh makes big deal if karama except the suffis. When it happens to the people of sunnah, we thank ALLāh and make it secret, we don't start publicizing like suffis does, to gain what exactly, fame or wealth, shior.

Bid'a is clearly spelt out and kufr and shirk is clearly spelt out. Ignorant people like u who enjoyed bid'a are those twisting evidences to suit ur whims and desires.

Well it is also part of ur ignorance that u can't differentiate between SALAFIYYA and khowarij. You see!!

Imran eleha is ur sheikh when he said what u wanted to hear, once they are against it, they are extremists, how are u now different from the Mr plumber, double standard indeed.

Am done with this staunch suffi.

In shaa ALLāh, I shall start posting all the suffi heresies for the truth seeker to know about them and their evil.

^^

Your are takfiree and you can't tell me otherwise. And sorry bro, you can't tell me what karama is. Have you ever seen a true waliy in Yorubaland came outside and bragged about his karama?. No. It is others who tell about them and there is nothing wrong with that.

Waliy keep their blessings secret. It is those who are close to them that speak out. If you see someone come out and brag about what he got he's most likely bogus. Your hatred is simply for the word "Sufi". That's very shameful and intolerance of you. So far, you have not said anything significantly different from other antagonists. I have noticed that since you critisized mufti menk. It is the trait of some of the people who claim to be adherent of salafiya. So post whatever you want. Allah aided those waliy of His long before you were born in order to protect Islam. You don't go through hell they went through. And you people are here today condemning them. Nonsense.

I will ignore you soon

Wa alaikum sallam warahmatullah wabarakatuhu.
The said statement was one of the reasons Ameer lmumeen Umar removed Khalid bin walid has the leader of army

Empiree still dey quote Hadith firaasa in 2018.

iamgenius:
Empiree still dey quote Hadith firaasa in 2018.

It doesn't exist?

.

Empiree:
It doesn't exist?

It does, but it's Daeef.

iamgenius:
It does, but it's Daeef.

smh... Who daeefed it, you?.

It is "daeef" but in reality it exists? You are incredible.

Sounds like you have not been reading your shuyukh. Go and read sheikh in Taymiyyah, ibn khatir, ibn Qayyum etc.

You guys are so funny. That's why I don't take you serious sometimes.