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allanphash7:
You don't get what im trying to say here



I use sportybet and whenever i want to withdraw from my bet account to my bank account i get alert instantly even on weekends, that's what I'm trying to say

asuustrike1:
The Apostle Paul wrote Timothy, "Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities." (1 Timothy 5:23) Many refer to this passage during their attempts to justify drinking intoxicating or alcoholic wine. But what's odd to me is that regardless of how much one intends to drink, he/she attempts to justify it by quoting what Paul told Timothy. How odd it is that they correctly quote Paul's advice, and then it is conveniently explained away, corrupted, and twisted to suit their own fleshly desires.
There are some questions for which we need answers.
1. What does the Scripture teach about alcohol consumption?

2.Can a Christian abstain, or have the right to drink alcohol (wine) if he so chooses?

3.What does GOD say about the matter?

Paul was talking to Timothy, not to people today. The conditions were such that Timothy could no longer drink water. I have been to villages were water in some places are not fit drinking because of the germs and bacteria it contains. If one drinks it, he will become sick to his stomach. This is probably what was happening to Timothy. Today, I take along medicine that the doctor gives me just in case I accidentally drink some contaminated water. In Timothy's day they had not made the medical advances we have today. Paul's suggestion to Timothy regarding the medicinal use of wine has nothing whatsoever to do with the practice of social (wine) drinking today.

Second, the wine was to be used for medicinal purposes, "For thy stomach's sake." How many people drink wine for their stomach's sake? We take medicines for our infirmities (diseases), but once the illnesses are gone, we stop taking the medicines the doctors prescribed for them. The same would be true in Timothy's case. Once the infirmity vanished, he probably ceased to take the wine as medicine, just as we would do today.
Third, LOOK at the word little.it means "small, of things with regard to size or quantity." How much medicine do we usually take when we're sick; perhaps a teaspoon or tablespoon full? Or maybe a little more? Do those of you who advocate drinking wine drink a little? And do you drink it as a remedy for some illness you have? If not, why do you drink it?

Fourth, look at Eve's deception. Satan deceived her by lying. Eve knew that God commanded them not to eat of the fruit of the tree in the midst of the garden, lest they die. But Satan told Eve, "Ye shall not surely die; for God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be like gods, knowing good and evil." (Genesis 3:4,5)
Satan got Eve to disobey God by telling her a lie and getting her to believe it. He convinced her that it was all right to eat from the Tree of Knowledge, even though God had forbidden it. Likewise, Satan convinces many today that it is all right to drink wine (other than for medicinal purposes), even though God forbids it. Notice what God said about fermented drink: "Wine is a mocker strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is NOT WISE." (Proverbs 20:1) Notice also the warning about the intoxicating effects of wine found in Proverbs 23:29-35. The passage clearly states that those who are "DECEIVED" into thinking it is all right to drink wine are "NOT WISE!" Could it be any clearer?
Since we are on the subject of deception, let's observe the marriage feast in Cana where Jesus turned water into wine, or did he turn it into booze? (John 2:1-11) Many believe, because of Satan's deception, that Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God, turned water into an alcoholic beverage so the men could become drunk (immoral; Galatians 5:19-21). Do we really believe that Christ would go against His Father's teaching; that He used His miraculous power to produce about 120 gallons of intoxicating wine, which the Holy Spirit denounced as "a mocker" and as "the poison of dragons"? The burden of proving this lies with those who accuse Jesus of turning water into intoxicating wine. John said nothing about Jesus committing such an immoral act. To think that God's Son turned water into an intoxicating wine, so that men might become drunk, is not only ridiculous, it also shows ignorance of the Scriptures. Let's notice some things about the incident.
We learn that Jesus arrived on the third day of the wedding feast. In those days, a marriage feast lasted seven days, with guests arriving each day. Family friends who arrived during the seven days of festivity were served refreshments. If the family failed to provide adequately for their guests, it was considered a social disgrace, not to mention that someone might file a lawsuit against the bridegroom's family. Such a social error would never be forgotten and would haunt the newlyweds throughout their lives. That's why we hear the urgency in Mary's voice, "They have no wine." (2:3) Jesus' mother could not imagine Him allowing the newly wedded couple to undergo the humiliation of having an inadequate supply of wine to offer their guests.

OmoEpe:
YOU are committing heresy. Serious heresy.
The chairman of the feast said good wine (the one Jesus made) ought to be served first so that when the people are intoxicated they can now serve the inferior wine (the one earlier served).
So Jesus's wine can intoxicate.

YOU need to educate yourself widely because your human mind is too small to comprehend God

Charles Spurgeon is regarded as one of the founders of Pentecostalism in the world a preacher and teacher of the word from whom notable preachers rose, he smoked and took alcoholic drinks and yet till today Pentecostalism isn't any where near complete without reference to him. A highly prolific teacher and one that had unusual depth of revelation on which Christians today relies.


Please forget the indoctrination you have had, seek God with an open mind and ABOVE ALL avoid adding or subtracting from scriptures

boss1310:
imagine getting on the last day and you were told that most things you thought to be sins aren't

asuustrike1:
Taking alcoholic drink intoxicate someone hence the bible condemns it. Many Christians take it because they are liberty to choose what is good from bad like what happened in the garden of Eden ( bible account). Many preachers except a few don't preach this aspect of the bible even though they know the truth

seunlly:
Did they get drunk?

Amakababe:
whether it's a sin or not, I just finished one HERO bottle now now. and yes, I'm going to church

boss1310:
imagine getting on the last day and you were told that most things you thought to be sins aren't

Lionsbet:
I understand man, of course it's an instant payout or 2 mins thereabout after withdrawal.

ZaOzaRoom:
It has never been and will never be a sin to drink alcohol.
Only hypocrites who don't study their bible well think it's a sin.
Ask a professional medical personal, they will tell you alcohol has it importance in the body.
The only problem is drinking and getting drunk thereby misbehaving.
If you drink the way I do, you will forever enjoy alcohol.

donkarly:
But he's so right.The bible is never against alcohol but drunkenness..

asuustrike1:
The Apostle Paul wrote Timothy, "Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities." (1 Timothy 5:23) Many refer to this passage during their attempts to justify drinking intoxicating or alcoholic wine. But what's odd to me is that regardless of how much one intends to drink, he/she attempts to justify it by quoting what Paul told Timothy. How odd it is that they correctly quote Paul's advice, and then it is conveniently explained away, corrupted, and twisted to suit their own fleshly desires.
There are some questions for which we need answers.
1. What does the Scripture teach about alcohol consumption?

2.Can a Christian abstain, or have the right to drink alcohol (wine) if he so chooses?

3.What does GOD say about the matter?

Paul was talking to Timothy, not to people today. The conditions were such that Timothy could no longer drink water. I have been to villages were water in some places are not fit drinking because of the germs and bacteria it contains. If one drinks it, he will become sick to his stomach. This is probably what was happening to Timothy. Today, I take along medicine that the doctor gives me just in case I accidentally drink some contaminated water. In Timothy's day they had not made the medical advances we have today. Paul's suggestion to Timothy regarding the medicinal use of wine has nothing whatsoever to do with the practice of social (wine) drinking today.

Second, the wine was to be used for medicinal purposes, "For thy stomach's sake." How many people drink wine for their stomach's sake? We take medicines for our infirmities (diseases), but once the illnesses are gone, we stop taking the medicines the doctors prescribed for them. The same would be true in Timothy's case. Once the infirmity vanished, he probably ceased to take the wine as medicine, just as we would do today.
Third, LOOK at the word little.it means "small, of things with regard to size or quantity." How much medicine do we usually take when we're sick; perhaps a teaspoon or tablespoon full? Or maybe a little more? Do those of you who advocate drinking wine drink a little? And do you drink it as a remedy for some illness you have? If not, why do you drink it?

Fourth, look at Eve's deception. Satan deceived her by lying. Eve knew that God commanded them not to eat of the fruit of the tree in the midst of the garden, lest they die. But Satan told Eve, "Ye shall not surely die; for God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be like gods, knowing good and evil." (Genesis 3:4,5)
Satan got Eve to disobey God by telling her a lie and getting her to believe it. He convinced her that it was all right to eat from the Tree of Knowledge, even though God had forbidden it. Likewise, Satan convinces many today that it is all right to drink wine (other than for medicinal purposes), even though God forbids it. Notice what God said about fermented drink: "Wine is a mocker strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is NOT WISE." (Proverbs 20:1) Notice also the warning about the intoxicating effects of wine found in Proverbs 23:29-35. The passage clearly states that those who are "DECEIVED" into thinking it is all right to drink wine are "NOT WISE!" Could it be any clearer?
Since we are on the subject of deception, let's observe the marriage feast in Cana where Jesus turned water into wine, or did he turn it into booze? (John 2:1-11) Many believe, because of Satan's deception, that Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God, turned water into an alcoholic beverage so the men could become drunk (immoral; Galatians 5:19-21). Do we really believe that Christ would go against His Father's teaching; that He used His miraculous power to produce about 120 gallons of intoxicating wine, which the Holy Spirit denounced as "a mocker" and as "the poison of dragons"? The burden of proving this lies with those who accuse Jesus of turning water into intoxicating wine. John said nothing about Jesus committing such an immoral act. To think that God's Son turned water into an intoxicating wine, so that men might become drunk, is not only ridiculous, it also shows ignorance of the Scriptures. Let's notice some things about the incident.
We learn that Jesus arrived on the third day of the wedding feast. In those days, a marriage feast lasted seven days, with guests arriving each day. Family friends who arrived during the seven days of festivity were served refreshments. If the family failed to provide adequately for their guests, it was considered a social disgrace, not to mention that someone might file a lawsuit against the bridegroom's family. Such a social error would never be forgotten and would haunt the newlyweds throughout their lives. That's why we hear the urgency in Mary's voice, "They have no wine." (2:3) Jesus' mother could not imagine Him allowing the newly wedded couple to undergo the humiliation of having an inadequate supply of wine to offer their guests.

cadesky:
If u go through d comments, 1 xtian guy even said bible command u guys to buy strong alcohol with ur tithes in the book of "detronomi" or so, another 1 said even Jesus first miracle was to convert water to wine, therefore, there can drive to stupor... Very 4ny xtians

OmoEpe:
YOU are committing heresy. Serious heresy.
The chairman of the feast said good wine (the one Jesus made) ought to be served first so that when the people are intoxicated they can now serve the inferior wine (the one earlier served).
So Jesus's wine can intoxicated.

YOU need to educate yourself widely because your human mind is too small to comprehend God

Charles Spurgeon is regarded as one of the founders of Pentecostalism in the world a preacher and teacher of the word from whom notable preachers rose, he smoked and took alcoholic drinks and yet till today Pentecostalism isn't any where near complete without reference to him. A highly prolific teacher and one that had unusual depth of revelation on which Christians today relies.


Please forget the indoctrination you have had, seek God with an open mind and ABOVE ALL avoid adding or subtracting from scriptures

kogi2010:
that is the problem with this sick ppl I mean the so called born again, very soon dey will quote a verse in the Bible that justify eating of pork

Herjyborlah:
Please read your bible very well
Check. Proverb 23 vs 21- 31