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Re: Throwback: Why Atiku Will Lose The Core North - OPINION by famology(m): 3:37pm On Nov 15, 2018
Awol1:
You are telling me Atiku will loose in Adamawa as well?

Are You OK?


you're probably too young to know that Bashir Tofa lost in kano his home state in 1993 election. It's not cast in stone that you must win your home state.

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Re: Throwback: Why Atiku Will Lose The Core North - OPINION by famology(m): 3:47pm On Nov 15, 2018
tuniski:


Don't talk much February 16th Is near


It's not Feb 16th but this Saturday.
Re: Throwback: Why Atiku Will Lose The Core North - OPINION by tuniski: 3:53pm On Nov 15, 2018
famology:



It's not Feb 16th but this Saturday.
What is happening this Saturday?
Re: Throwback: Why Atiku Will Lose The Core North - OPINION by famology(m): 5:42pm On Nov 15, 2018
tuniski:

What is happening this Saturday?

Okay, there is a by-election for house of representatives coming up this Saturday in saraki's domain.

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Re: Throwback: Why Atiku Will Lose The Core North - OPINION by tuniski: 6:15pm On Nov 15, 2018
famology:


Okay, there is a by-election for house of representatives coming up this Saturday in saraki's domain.
That is a walk over!

PDP Has won that already. Kwara Is now Fully pdp.
Re: Throwback: Why Atiku Will Lose The Core North - OPINION by famology(m): 11:50pm On Nov 15, 2018
tuniski:

That is a walk over!

PDP Has won that already. Kwara Is now Fully pdp.


Hahaha. .... we shall see!

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Re: Throwback: Why Atiku Will Lose The Core North - OPINION by Gandollar(f): 10:09am On Nov 16, 2018
Mace0lane:


Who are those setting the southern goals ? You expect Yoruba to follow Igbos goals ? Why are you Igbos so senselessly about everything.
Seun, lalasticlala, mynd44 rule 2
Re: Throwback: Why Atiku Will Lose The Core North - OPINION by Wahala90: 10:16pm On Dec 05, 2018
Some don't even understand what corruption is. The biggest corruption in Nigeria till date was carried out by Buhari when he used Nigeria's resources to forcefully take power from a democratically elected govt.
Re: Throwback: Why Atiku Will Lose The Core North - OPINION by QuotaSystem: 5:52am On Dec 06, 2018
tuniski:

That is a walk over!

PDP Has won that already. Kwara Is now Fully pdp.

Lol how market?

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Re: Throwback: Why Atiku Will Lose The Core North - OPINION by tuniski: 6:24am On Dec 06, 2018
QuotaSystem:


Lol how market?

Market is booming!
Re: Throwback: Why Atiku Will Lose The Core North - OPINION by Nobody: 7:36am On Dec 06, 2018
tuniski:

Market is booming!

Admit you are a crap and sentimental analyst always getting it wrong because of an inability to face/accept the reality on the ground.

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Re: Throwback: Why Atiku Will Lose The Core North - OPINION by tuniski: 7:55am On Dec 06, 2018
Oshigun:


Admit you are a crap and sentimental analyst always getting it wrong because of an inability to face/accept the reality on the ground.
You are just shallow celebrating nothingness. Congratulations the expert since 2015. That is the lot of Buharideens but, next year you will learn new political realities! You will know the difference between political weather and climate!
Re: Throwback: Why Atiku Will Lose The Core North - OPINION by Nobody: 8:07am On Dec 06, 2018
tuniski:

You are just shallow celebrating nothingness. Congratulations the expert since 2015. That is the lot of Buharideens but, next year you will learn new political realities! You will know the difference between political weather and climate!

You still have mouth to brag? You Atiku fans are dishonourable cowards. Why not be a real man and stand by your word and accept you got it wrong? Is that not your utterance below?

This is how you bragged GEJ would win only to be cowardly shouting 'Biafra or death' when he lost whereas real men will accept their side lost and go away to strategize for another day. Shior. Just don't kill yourself or come here to disturb us when Atiku and the PDP lose woefully everywhere.

That is a walk over!

PDP Has won that already. Kwara Is now Fully pdp.

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Re: Throwback: Why Atiku Will Lose The Core North - OPINION by bounceback: 8:18am On Dec 06, 2018
tuniski:

You are just shallow celebrating nothingness. Congratulations the expert since 2015. That is the lot of Buharideens but, next year you will learn new political realities! You will know the difference between political weather and climate!

WTF. You goofed and still pouring smelly saliva everywhere. You are a disgrace. Spits

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Re: Throwback: Why Atiku Will Lose The Core North - OPINION by tuniski: 8:42am On Dec 06, 2018
bounceback:


WTF. You goofed and still pouring smelly saliva everywhere. You are a disgrace. Spits

Who is this?
Re: Throwback: Why Atiku Will Lose The Core North - OPINION by tuniski: 8:47am On Dec 06, 2018
Oshigun:


You still have mouth to brag? You Atiku fans are dishonourable cowards. Why not be a real man and stand by your word and accept you got it wrong? Is that not your utterance below?

This is how you bragged GEJ would win only to be cowardly shouting 'Biafra or death' when he lost whereas real men will accept their side lost and go away to strategize for another day. Shior. Just don't kill yourself or come here to disturb us when Atiku and the PDP lose woefully everywhere.

What is your problem withh biafra thiss ipob that? Are you truly Yoruba cos it is unlike Yoruba to be this Petty.

Millions of Yorubas will vote Pdp. However the Acn/tinubu yorubas. Will vote apc Simple as that.

Oh abi omo ale Yoruba ni awon tiwon dibo fun Pdp ni ondo,ekiti,osun ati oyo?
Re: Throwback: Why Atiku Will Lose The Core North - OPINION by bounceback: 9:38am On Dec 06, 2018
tuniski:


Who is this?

Go cover your bald head in shame, touts like you defend rogues here 247, yet nothing to show for it. Smh

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Re: Throwback: Why Atiku Will Lose The Core North - OPINION by tuniski: 11:20am On Dec 06, 2018
bounceback:


Go cover your bald head in shame, touts like you defend rogues here 247, yet nothing to show for it. Smh
When people go low like this, I know they have lost it. Sorry eh.
Re: Throwback: Why Atiku Will Lose The Core North - OPINION by bounceback: 12:49pm On Dec 06, 2018
tuniski:

When people go low like this, I know they have lost it. Sorry eh.

Shut up, and go find a better job instead of defending those that ruined your life. Spits

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Re: Throwback: Why Atiku Will Lose The Core North - OPINION by tuniski: 1:39pm On Dec 06, 2018
bounceback:


Shut up, and go find a better job instead of defending those that ruined your life. Spits
Childish!
Re: Throwback: Why Atiku Will Lose The Core North - OPINION by bounceback: 9:48pm On Dec 06, 2018
tuniski:

Childish!

Paid tout.
Re: Throwback: Why Atiku Will Lose The Core North - OPINION by tuniski: 10:20pm On Dec 06, 2018
bounceback:


Paid tout.
pele
Re: Throwback: Why Atiku Will Lose The Core North - OPINION by Susu888(m): 10:28pm On Dec 06, 2018
O.p abeg make u no kill ya self trying to explain to this hate filled souls (ipob) they will never agree. Its better when it shocks them after elections nd resets their brains to reality then they will understand!

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Re: Throwback: Why Atiku Will Lose The Core North - OPINION by bounceback: 10:49pm On Dec 06, 2018
tuniski:

pele

Get well soon.
Re: Throwback: Why Atiku Will Lose The Core North - OPINION by Konquest: 2:01pm On Dec 19, 2018
abduljabbar4:


Okay, so are igbos the only ones in the south east? you guys keep forgetting everything you say also applies to you. The north east from my little observation is going to give a lot more votes to Buhari. You dont know what ending boko haram means to them but i dont blame you cos you live in the south and you have no idea.

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Re: Throwback: Why Atiku Will Lose The Core North - OPINION by Asshurbanipal: 2:34pm On Dec 19, 2018
Yorubas don't seem to understand that national election is different. They keep using their localized election in their enclave to judge
Re: Throwback: Why Atiku Will Lose The Core North - OPINION by 7lives: 2:54pm On Dec 19, 2018
Asshurbanipal:
Yorubas don't seem to understand that national election is different. They keep using their localized election in their enclave to judge

Our people say olori buruku lo nsi ilekun fun ole.
Only a cursed man open his door for thieves, why should Yorubas vote a confirmed thief, we are not under any kind of curse so let's play our politics the way we understand.

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Re: Throwback: Why Atiku Will Lose The Core North - OPINION by mrphysics(m): 2:55pm On Dec 19, 2018
Asshurbanipal:
Yorubas don't seem to understand that national election is different. They keep using their localized election in their enclave to judge
Are you a Yoruba?

Why do you care on how they vote? Concentrate on whom you will vote and allow others make their decision.

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Re: Throwback: Why Atiku Will Lose The Core North - OPINION by RuggedSniper: 1:55pm On Jan 15, 2019
QuotaSystem:
To put it plainly, apart from Taraba, Benue, Plateau & Nassarawa States, President Muhammadu Buhari is poised to sweep the votes of the remaining 15 northern states, for the following reasons:

1. The "Amana" factor.

A lot of southerners often wonder the basis of the cult-like following PMB commands in the North - the reason is not far fetched.

The Hausa-fulani people in particular, place a huge value on the concept of "Amana" (trust/to hold in trust), a value which Buhari's track record of integrity (whether disputed or not) is clearly aligned with. Despite media propaganda, most of these people who are more politically informed than their average southern counterparts, are aware that not a single charge of corruption has stuck on their revered PMB, amidst corruption allegations among his cronies. Atiku loses massively in this respect because of his track record of corruption (BPE, Haliburton, $16b power scam, unexplained source of wealth etc.) which presents him as an untrustworthy leader to most northerners.

Furthermore, PMB's seemingly north-centric agenda regarding appointments, infrastructure projects (roads, rails, ports) and focus on agriculture assures most northerners that their interests would be well protected under his administration, in contrast to Atiku who is perceived to be likely to make concessions and appeasements to the East whose support he is mostly riding on going by recent trends. Atiku also loses big in this regard.

2. The South Eastern VP Factor

If Atiku gives in to the clamor for his running mate to emerge from the East, then he stands to lose massive votes from the core north for obvious reasons.

Firstly, the deep political antagonism and anti-north stance from Igbos, which has characterized the national space and been amplified since the defeat of Jonathan and rise of IPOB/Nnamdi Kanu and their hate speech, will deeply hurt Atiku's chances because not only will it mean the North would be taking the extreme bigotry, insults and political antagonism from the East right on the chin with no consequences, it would also mean the possibility of an Igbo successor to Atiku - a people known for their contempt for Nigeria's unity and secessionist aspirations.

In addition, a SE VP will also cost Atiku significant SW votes - a sub-region with the second largest number of registered voters (14 million).

3. The Boko Haram Factor

In sharp contrast to the generally held notion among some in the south that Atiku would sweep the NE because it's his home region, the strides recorded by PMB in the fight against Boko Haram heavily neutralizes that effect. I am not talking about social media noise, but the perceptions of people directly affected by Boko Haram activities and are experiencing a gradual return to normalcy since PMB took office.

Yola (Adamawa) for example, Atiku's own home capital, has experienced peace since PMB's onslaught on BH like they never saw since Boko Haram emerged under the past PDP administration - this was formerly a ghost town that used to suffer deadly BH attacks daily with dusk-till-dawn curfews, which has since been lifted and attacks reduced to suicide bombings and guerrilla attacks on soft targets, which are reducing on a monthly basis. This was a state that had several LGA's under Boko Haram's rule during PDP's administration and the people aren't quick to forget the corruption that marred the fight against BH in Dasuki fashion.

Maiduguri is back to it's bustling state with dozens of NGO's providing humanitarian services to help with the ongoing rebuilding efforts, people are now free to watch El-Kanem FC matches in the township stadium, and trans-border economic trade (mostly fish) is gradually being restored. The return of the Chibok and Dapchi girls also adds points to PMB's profile in the sub-region. If by God's grace the FG is able to secure the release of Leah Sharibu then that would be a hat-trick. I personally spoke to a "Kube" (traditional hausa cap) dealer from Borno recently and these were the exact sentiments he expressed as he professed support for Buhari's candidacy.

Final Note

It is very valid to permute that the votes from the 4 excluded northern states (Benue, Plateau, Nassarawa, Taraba) will be shared by both candidates as federal might will play out (both parties will rig anyway). With 19 million registered voters in the North West and 10 million in the North East which are largely homogenic, it is safe to say anyone who loses these key regions has lost the 2019 elections. With another 14 million registered voters in the SW which is APC's stronghold and Atiku's slant towards choosing a SE VP, his campaign team should be very worried.

Note that this is not to say Atiku will not record a sizable number of votes from the Northern States, but the ratio will pale in significance to Buhari's potential landslide victory in the region. - Q.S
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grin grin... Some people will faint when they read this!

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Re: Throwback: Why Atiku Will Lose The Core North - OPINION by QuotaSystem: 3:21pm On Feb 27, 2019
QuotaSystem:
To put it plainly, apart from Taraba, Benue, Plateau & Nassarawa States, President Muhammadu Buhari is poised to sweep the votes of the remaining 15 northern states, for the following reasons:

1. The "Amana" factor.

A lot of southerners often wonder the basis of the cult-like following PMB commands in the North - the reason is not far fetched.

The Hausa-fulani people in particular, place a huge value on the concept of "Amana" (trust/to hold in trust), a value which Buhari's track record of integrity (whether disputed or not) is clearly aligned with. Despite media propaganda, most of these people who are more politically informed than their average southern counterparts, are aware that not a single charge of corruption has stuck on their revered PMB, amidst corruption allegations among his cronies. Atiku loses massively in this respect because of his track record of corruption (BPE, Haliburton, $16b power scam, unexplained source of wealth etc.) which presents him as an untrustworthy leader to most northerners.

Furthermore, PMB's seemingly north-centric agenda regarding appointments, infrastructure projects (roads, rails, ports) and focus on agriculture assures most northerners that their interests would be well protected under his administration, in contrast to Atiku who is perceived to be likely to make concessions and appeasements to the East whose support he is mostly riding on going by recent trends. Atiku also loses big in this regard.

2. The South Eastern VP Factor

If Atiku gives in to the clamor for his running mate to emerge from the East, then he stands to lose massive votes from the core north for obvious reasons.

Firstly, the deep political antagonism and anti-north stance from Igbos, which has characterized the national space and been amplified since the defeat of Jonathan and rise of IPOB/Nnamdi Kanu and their hate speech, will deeply hurt Atiku's chances because not only will it mean the North would be taking the extreme bigotry, insults and political antagonism from the East right on the chin with no consequences, it would also mean the possibility of an Igbo successor to Atiku - a people known for their contempt for Nigeria's unity and secessionist aspirations.

In addition, a SE VP will also cost Atiku significant SW votes - a sub-region with the second largest number of registered voters (14 million).

3. The Boko Haram Factor

In sharp contrast to the generally held notion among some in the south that Atiku would sweep the NE because it's his home region, the strides recorded by PMB in the fight against Boko Haram heavily neutralizes that effect. I am not talking about social media noise, but the perceptions of people directly affected by Boko Haram activities and are experiencing a gradual return to normalcy since PMB took office.

Yola (Adamawa) for example, Atiku's own home capital, has experienced peace since PMB's onslaught on BH like they never saw since Boko Haram emerged under the past PDP administration - this was formerly a ghost town that used to suffer deadly BH attacks daily with dusk-till-dawn curfews, which has since been lifted and attacks reduced to suicide bombings and guerrilla attacks on soft targets, which are reducing on a monthly basis. This was a state that had several LGA's under Boko Haram's rule during PDP's administration and the people aren't quick to forget the corruption that marred the fight against BH in Dasuki fashion.

Maiduguri is back to it's bustling state with dozens of NGO's providing humanitarian services to help with the ongoing rebuilding efforts, people are now free to watch El-Kanem FC matches in the township stadium, and trans-border economic trade (mostly fish) is gradually being restored. The return of the Chibok and Dapchi girls also adds points to PMB's profile in the sub-region. If by God's grace the FG is able to secure the release of Leah Sharibu then that would be a hat-trick. I personally spoke to a "Kube" (traditional hausa cap) dealer from Borno recently and these were the exact sentiments he expressed as he professed support for Buhari's candidacy.

Final Note

It is very valid to permute that the votes from the 4 excluded northern states (Benue, Plateau, Nassarawa, Taraba) will be shared by both candidates as federal might will play out (both parties will rig anyway). With 19 million registered voters in the North West and 10 million in the North East which are largely homogenic, it is safe to say anyone who loses these key regions has lost the 2019 elections. With another 14 million registered voters in the SW which is APC's stronghold and Atiku's slant towards choosing a SE VP, his campaign team should be very worried.

Note that this is not to say Atiku will not record a sizable number of votes from the Northern States, but the ratio will pale in significance to Buhari's potential landslide victory in the region. - Q.S

If only Atiku had listened and pulled out when he had the chance... undecided

I guess his defeat was programmed from birth.

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Re: Throwback: Why Atiku Will Lose The Core North - OPINION by Asshurbanipal: 3:28pm On Feb 27, 2019
QuotaSystem:


If only Atiku had listened and pulled out when he had the chance... undecided

I guess his defeat was programmed from birth.
I see that nigerins are not ready for democracy. Do you encourage one party system? What is bad in failing election? Is that why buhari killed innocent people in 2011?

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