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IKON360:
curls are not dependent on how much the ball spins, even the wind and the weight of the ball or design are also included. Jabulani of 2010 world cup curved alot and it wasn't because of how you kicked it but the ball was poorly designed. Rivellino's free kicks and Roberto Carlos' free kicks were dependent on power but it doesn't mean you need such power to apply the curve on a ball. The power is to beat the keeper and not to attain a curve. The free kick that won puskas of two years ago had a demonic curve but that doesn't mean the ball spun so much

Dude. The curl is normally determined by the spin of the ball. The more the spin the more the curvature. And higher power mostly increases the spin.
That "demonic curve" in 2016 is is actually a different technique. More like a non-deadspin knuckleball. If you noticed the ball curled gently then took a sharp turn just before it got to the keeper. I would say the ball swerved more than it curled.
Ronaldo scored a similar in 2007


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8__f8sG6tNA

Evangkatsoulis:
No deadspin kills the spin. Dip has a LOT of forward spin(opposite of backspin).
You can read about the TOPSPIN.

dead spin, dip are all achieved by the knuckle ball way of striking ball that's what I meant. In fact one of the surest ways of striking the ball for freekicks for a variety of ranges is by striking the ball with the knuckles of the foot

Evangkatsoulis:
Dude. The curl is normally determined by the spin of the ball. The more the spin the more the curvature. And higher power mostly increases the spin.
That "demonic curve" in 2016 is is actually a different technique. More like a non-deadspin knuckleball. If you noticed the ball curled gently the took a sharp turn just before it got to the keeper. I would say the ball swerved more than it curled.
Ronaldo scored a similar in 2007

DUDE!! You are just confusing yourself; curl, curve, swerve are all the same. The spin is like the rotation of the ball on its axis just as planet earth rotates on its axis, however planet earth revolves around the sun. The revolution but with a target between the goal posts is the curl or curve or swerve. To achieve a curve or a swerve or a banana shot you don't need as much power as Roberto Carlos. A curve ball is dependent on how you strike the ball and not how much power behind the strike. Do you play ball?

IKON360:
DUDE!! You are just confusing yourself; curl, curve, swerve are all the same. The spin is like the rotation of the ball on its axis just as planet earth rotates on its axis, however planet earth revolves around the sun. The revolution but with a target between the goal posts is the curl or curve or swerve. To achieve a curve or a swerve or a banana shot you don't need as much power as Roberto Carlos. A curve ball is dependent on how you strike the ball and not how much power behind the strike. Do you play ball?

IKON360:
DUDE!! You are just confusing yourself; curl, curve, swerve are all the same. The spin is like the rotation of the ball on its axis just as planet earth rotates on its axis, however planet earth revolves around the sun. The revolution but with a target between the goal posts is the curl or curve or swerve. To achieve a curve or a swerve or a banana shot you don't need as much power as Roberto Carlos. A curve ball is dependent on how you strike the ball and not how much power behind the strike. Do you play ball?

IKON360:
DUDE!! You are just confusing yourself; curl, curve, swerve are all the same. The spin is like the rotation of the ball on its axis just as planet earth rotates on its axis, however planet earth revolves around the sun. The revolution but with a target between the goal posts is the curl or curve or swerve. To achieve a curve or a swerve or a banana shot you don't need as much power as Roberto Carlos. A curve ball is dependent on how you strike the ball and not how much power behind the strike. Do you play ball?

Here is wiki article on this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curl_(football)

Several factors can cause certain things.
In tall stadium with little to no wind(camp nou, old trafford, bernabeu), the curl is (by definition) determined by the spin(lateral) of the ball. If a ball changes direction but itself has no spin or little spin to cause the sudden change, then it is said to have SWERVED. The dip is done by putting TOPSPIN(forward spin) on ball
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topspin.
That the knuckle is used doesn't make them the same. Heck the toe can be used to take a straight shot yet Ronaldo used it to curl that freekick vs spain.

andrew444:
Okay I see
Let me agree with you on this

you can confirm from this video.

The LIE about Messi's Right foot.

Watch the collection of amazing goals against the best teams using his right foot.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2mv7LtTMVA

@IKON360,

To explain further. In linear motion, a straight shot accelerates until it reaches a velocity where the airdrag equals the forec that causes accelerate and thus move at constant speed before it decelerates.
Here the force that causes the acceleration comes from the legs of the shooter. The more powerful the kick the faster the shot is(if other factors remain constant)
In circular motion the force(Torque or moment) increases the angular speed(spin) of the ball until it reaches its maximum rev(spin). Again, the force/moment behind this comes from the kick.
So given the same ball, no wind, same pose, and same side of the foot, putting more "power" to ball adds way more spin(revolutions) than less.
That's why Beckham had more bend to his freekick than messi because he had more momentum during his run-up.

@ IKON360,

To explain further. In linear motion, a straight shot accelerates until it reaches a velocity where the airdrag equals the forec that causes accelerate and thus move at constant speed before it decelerates.
Here the force that causes the acceleration comes from the legs of the shooter. The more powerful the kick the faster the shot is(if other factors remain constant)
In circular motion the force(Torque or moment) increases the angular speed(spin) of the ball until it reaches its maximum rev(spin). Again, the force/moment behind this comes from the kick.
So given the same ball, no wind, same pose, and same side of the foot, putting more "power" to ball adds way more spin(revolutions) than less.
That's why Beckham had more bend to his freekick than messi because he had more momentum during his run-up.

"Can we say you miss Messi?" Ronaldo: "No, maybe he misses me. I played in England, Spain, Italy, Portugal, while he is always been in Spain. Maybe he needs me more than I need him. But I would like him to come to Italy. Accept the challenge like me. But if he is happy there, I respect it."


Ororo, you call going to a seria A team that has won the league title 7 times in the past 7 seasons a challenge??
Why didn't you go to roma?

Winning la liga with madrid was a bigger challenge.

We all know the truth was that you left spain to escape messi's shadow

Your Goat

Olamyyde:
"Can we say you miss Messi?" Ronaldo: "No, maybe he misses me. I played in England, Spain, Italy, Portugal, while he is always been in Spain. Maybe he needs me more than I need him. But I would like him to come to Italy. Accept the challenge like me. But if he is happy there, I respect it."


Ororo, you call going to a seria A team that has won the league title 7 times in the past 7 seasons a challenge??
Why didn't you go to roma?

Winning la liga with madrid was a bigger challenge.

We all know the truth was that you left spain to escape messi's shadow

LMAO. When Ronaldo wanted to "challenge" himself he went to a team that has won 7 titles in a row. Not to Sasualo, not to Chievo not even Roma

Well no worry Messi too will challenge himself at PSG

raumdeuter:
LMAO. When Ronaldo wanted to "challenge" himself he went to a team that has won 7 titles in a row. Not to Sasualo, not to Chievo not even Roma

Well no worry Messi too will challenge himself at PSG

The challenge is leaving a team that won the champions league three times in a row.

Melvyn11:
The challenge is leaving a team that won the champions league three times in a row.

Leave Madrid and why not move to Toulouse, Sausolo or Hoffenheim?

So if Messi moves to PSG that is also a challenge?

Olamyyde:
"Can we say you miss Messi?" Ronaldo: "No, maybe he misses me. I played in England, Spain, Italy, Portugal, while he is always been in Spain. Maybe he needs me more than I need him. But I would like him to come to Italy. Accept the challenge like me. But if he is happy there, I respect it."


Ororo, you call going to a seria A team that has won the league title 7 times in the past 7 seasons a challenge??
Why didn't you go to roma?

Winning la liga with madrid was a bigger challenge.

We all know the truth was that you left spain to escape messi's shadow

Shut up. Cristiano Ronaldo went to a club that hasn't won champions league since 20 yrs from a club that won 3 UCLs in last 3 seasons. It takes balls to come out of your comfort zone and still perform at the elite level. Something your dwarf can never do

raumdeuter:
Leave Madrid and why not move to Toulouse, Sausolo or Hoffenheim?
So if Messi moves to PSG that is also a challenge?

So messy wining champion's league with psg is not a challenge.

I need coutinho against Tottenham Tomorrow.

Melvyn11:
Shut up. Cristiano Ronaldo went to a club that hasn't won champions league since 20 yrs from a club that won 3 UCLs in last 3 seasons. It takes balls to come out of your comfort zone and still perform at the elite level. Something your dwarf can never do

Ororo went to a team that has been winning a double for so many years now. What is the difference between him and neymar


They both went o leagues that have no competition just to escape messi's shadow.

raumdeuter:
LMAO. When Ronaldo wanted to "challenge" himself he went to a team that has won 7 titles in a row. Not to Sasualo, not to Chievo not even Roma

Well no worry Messi too will challenge himself at PSG

No mind them joorh... If to say na roma or even ac milan, i will accept it as a challenge.

Melvyn11:
So messy wining champion's league with psg is not a challenge.

Has Ronaldo won CL with Juventus?
So if Messi wants to move to Italy like Ronaldo suggested, which team should he move to? Or can he join Ronaldo at Juventus?

Olamyyde:
No mind them joorh... If to say na roma or even ac milan, i will accept it as a challenge.

Na so. Ask them which club in Italy wil be an appropriate challenge for Messi like the type of challenge Ronaldo is doing

if Messi wants to move to Italy he should join Lazio that has not won the league in almost 20yrs but when Ronaldo wanted to challenge himself, he went to Juventus 7 time Serie A winner

Olamyyde:
Ororo went to a team that has been winning a double for so many years now. What is the difference between him and neymar


They both went o leagues that have no competition just to escape messi's shadow.

Stop spitting trash. Stop falling back to league this or that. Neymar and Ronaldo went to another team to win the champions league with teams that haven't won it in a long time and never before. Something messi will never do. ha can only succed in barca.

raumdeuter:
Has Ronaldo won CL with Juventus?
So if Messi wants to move to Italy like Ronaldo suggested, which team should he move to? Or can he join Ronaldo at Juventus?

I don't care if messi dies in barca or whatever. He is already a one club legend and a fraud with his country. Ronaldo left Madrid to win d champions league with juventus and that's is the challenges he is talking about

Whats up with all these so called GOATS obsessions with Leo first maradona then pele now c.boy

Melvyn11:
Shut up. Cristiano Ronaldo went to a club that hasn't won champions league since 20 yrs from a club that won 3 UCLs in last 3 seasons. It takes balls to come out of your comfort zone and still perform at the elite level. Something your dwarf can never do

How many goals has he scored in dz year ucl??
Your mcm don play all top teams in Italy and na only Milan he fit score

peterd53:
How many goals has he scored in dz year ucl??
Your mcm don play all top teams in Italy and na only Milan he fit score

oga he is joint top scorer in serie a and on course to win golden boot in three different leagues unlike messy. See barca fans talkin about ucl, Messi has been irrelevant in d champions league since 2015.

Melvyn11:
oga he is joint top scorer in serie a and on course to win golden boot in three different leagues unlike messy. See barca fans talkin about ucl, Messi has been irrelevant in d champions league since 2015.

Oga he was brought for ucl not scoring tap ins against sassuolo and crotone. FYI he’s nt d joint top scorer, get your fact right

Biko, you guys should never indulge them...

Excallibur:
Whats up with all these so called GOATS obsessions with Leo first maradona then pele now c.boy

dem dey feel insecure about their football legacy

so Pele go talk about scoring headers

and c boy go talk about stupid challenge as if he didn't play in the richest and most dominant clubs in the countries he went to. the boy even mention national team join

and Maradona will say leo goes to the toilet 20 times b4 a match like wtf

they should all be ashamed of themselves because person wey dem dey talk never get time to reply any of them even once.

Olamyyde:
"Can we say you miss Messi?" Ronaldo: "No, maybe he misses me. I played in England, Spain, Italy, Portugal, while he is always been in Spain. Maybe he needs me more than I need him. But I would like him to come to Italy. Accept the challenge like me. But if he is happy there, I respect it."


Ororo, you call going to a seria A team that has won the league title 7 times in the past 7 seasons a challenge??
Why didn't you go to roma?

Winning la liga with madrid was a bigger challenge.

We all know the truth was that you left spain to escape messi's shadow

Final line:

"He is a fantastic player, and a good guy, but here I have everything and I don't miss anything. This is my new life and I am happy"

"I don't see what's so wrong with this, but if I were to take it seriously, I would say if Messi missed Ronaldo or needed him, he would follow him to serie A, or move to any other club to prove something, not stay in his club and keep performing like a God.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with staying at your club, this whole "accept the challenge" argument came to life because of Messi, before that it was regarded as loyalty and players like Totti were massively praised because of it.

This here sounds pretty tongue in cheek anyway."
"Copied.

Olamyyde:
"Can we say you miss Messi?" Ronaldo: "No, maybe he misses me. I played in England, Spain, Italy, Portugal, while he is always been in Spain. Maybe he needs me more than I need him. But I would like him to come to Italy. Accept the challenge like me. But if he is happy there, I respect it."


Ororo, you call going to a seria A team that has won the league title 7 times in the past 7 seasons a challenge??
Why didn't you go to roma?

Winning la liga with madrid was a bigger challenge.

We all know the truth was that you left spain to escape messi's shadow

I'd never understand these Messi fans.

Same folks asking Ronaldo to go to Roma are the same folks asking others why Messi has to leave Barcelona.

The best players go to the best clubs.

-Lord

Excallibur:
Whats up with all these so called GOATS obsessions with Leo first maradona then pele now c.boy

Na question wen journalist ask them.

Football sha. Never a dull moment.

-Lord